Why is it So Hard To Make A Good Game?!

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#1 kevinlamar
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Dark Sector started off with an awesome idea, but apparently the story is weak and the online play isn't that good. Kind of the same thing with Darkness. I thought it was a great idea that was ruined by the fact that you had to shoot out all of the lights to be safe (WHY!?) Games like Lair and Devil May Cry 4 would've been epic games with just the slightest tweaks! It's unbelievable how one stupid thing can ruin a game.

Here's what I think would make the perfect game:

1) Forget guns - Assult Rifles, Shotguns, Machine Guns...whatever. You see what kind of response the Glaive got in Dark Sector. From now on, make characters with mutated limbs or even new foreign guns like in Halo, Resistance, and Ratchet and Clank. Be creative. Don't give me a pistol, give me mutated lungs that breathe fire on enemies as I watch them burn to death! Or add something creative to the gun like the Chainsaw in Gears of War. If they can't think of anything creative, just give me the Chains of Olympus so I can rip through a game like Kane and Lynch in 30 minutes and immediately return it.

2) Stop Fing around with Online Play - I know they are trying to be creative. But come on! Just give me my team deathmatch, my free for all, and my capture the flag. Then you can add whatever kind of asinine modes you want. (DARK SECTOR!!! WHY?!) Picture 6 on 6 team deathmatch where everyone is Hayden....yes my friends..yes.

3) Always...ALWAYS! Include a 2 Player campaign On and Offline - This should go without saying. Playing online or offline with your friend through an entire game is not only a Gamer right.....its a Human right!

4) Hand to Hand Combat should be Awesome - I basically want to be a killing machine. If I get into a hand to hand fight, I should be able to perform an awesome move that kills them immediately. I really liked the button prompts used on god of war, that should definately be used more often. I shouldn't dread fighting like I did in Uncharted.

5) Stop using the Sixaxis capability - It was a decent idea...Heavenly Sword made me hate it, Ratchet and Clank made me loathe it. Just ......just stop. Give me my rumble pack (I will always call it that!) and pretend the sixaxis capabilites never happened.

6) Give me more hot girls! - What's better than playing a mysterious man with a grim past that is pissed off at the world? How abotu a hot girl? Tomb Radier, Metroid, these are all good ones. I hate playing the same kind of person every time, I don't think anyone would have a problem playing though a game as a hot, bad ass woman.

I can't think of anymore right now. Please feel free to add some more on.

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#3 Silent-Hal
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Just because you want to see certain things in games, doesn't mean that games that don't have these things aren't good games. Uncharted, for example didn't include any of those points, but was still a great game to play. Most of those points are nit picks at best.

hot girls who the hell cares are you that much of a nerd that you cant get a girlPhAnToM_LeGeIVd

Don't you think calling someone a nerd on a gaming website is a tad hypocritical? >_>

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#4 kevinlamar
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Just because you want to see certain things in games, doesn't mean that games that don't have these things aren't good games. Uncharted, for example didn't include any of those points, but was still a great game to play. Most of those points are nit picks at best.

[QUOTE="PhAnToM_LeGeIVd"]hot girls who the hell cares are you that much of a nerd that you cant get a girlSilent-Hal

Don't you think calling someone a nerd on a gaming website is a tad hypocritical? >_>

Well put. But these things aren't nit picking. I believe that a few minor tweaks can turn a game from being an okay game to being an epic game.

Picture if a game like Jehrico offered the Chains of Olympus, how much more would it sell? Or if COD4 didn't have a completely innovative online option. It would've just been a nice looking war game.

And, if Lair didn't use the Sixaxis, it would've been a canidate for game of the year! They should re-release it without that function...it boggles me how close some of these games are to being amazing. it's like a long foul ball in baseball.

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#5 avataraang1
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This will never happen. Without guns and swords what will feed our Blood lust? With no sixaxis whats the point on Sixaxis? Fists are for tekken. I see jubblies everywhere we dont need anymore. Companies wanna make a quick buck they dont care about you
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#6 Altair69
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well. i just about couldnt disagree more with you, most of the things u mentioned is great.. hmm ..
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#7 Silent-Hal
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True. Some games just have superior design to others, though I think Lair is getting a patch/re-release that is going to allow analogue control, so developers are learning from their mistakes. Every game has some amount of flaws, you've just got to take the bad with the good, they'll always be something you don't like even about your favourite games.

As for Jericho, I don't think adding any extra weapons would have been necessary, since the various powers the characters had sort of balanced it out somewhat. I enjoyed Jericho for the most part, it was by no means perfect, but it was a lot of fun while it lasted.

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#8 d_ano
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it isnt hard to make a good game, most devs jjust dont have next gen standards yet. they (mainly ea) think its ok to release a game because the graphics are better than the ps2 and it works. but good devs (kojima) make sure everything is right before release. but kojima standards are so high that this generation of games consoles wont allow him to reach them standards
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#9 5FingersOfDeath
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I suggest you become a game designer and do all that yourself, also this way you can get "real intimate" with your female character.

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Well I just ask for you to make this perfect so that the world can marvel at your greatness.
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Dark Sector started off with an awesome idea, but apparently the story is weak and the online play isn't that good. Kind of the same thing with Darkness. I thought it was a great idea that was ruined by the fact that you had to shoot out all of the lights to be safe (WHY!?) Games like Lair and Devil May Cry 4 would've been epic games with just the slightest tweaks! It's unbelievable how one stupid thing can ruin a game.

Here's what I think would make the perfect game:

1) Forget guns - Assult Rifles, Shotguns, Machine Guns...whatever. You see what kind of response the Glaive got in Dark Sector. From now on, make characters with mutated limbs or even new foreign guns like in Halo, Resistance, and Ratchet and Clank. Be creative. Don't give me a pistol, give me mutated lungs that breathe fire on enemies as I watch them burn to death! Or add something creative to the gun like the Chainsaw in Gears of War. If they can't think of anything creative, just give me the Chains of Olympus so I can rip through a game like Kane and Lynch in 30 minutes and immediately return it.

2) Stop Fing around with Online Play - I know they are trying to be creative. But come on! Just give me my team deathmatch, my free for all, and my capture the flag. Then you can add whatever kind of asinine modes you want. (DARK SECTOR!!! WHY?!) Picture 6 on 6 team deathmatch where everyone is Hayden....yes my friends..yes.

3) Always...ALWAYS! Include a 2 Player campaign On and Offline - This should go without saying. Playing online or offline with your friend through an entire game is not only a Gamer right.....its a Human right!

4) Hand to Hand Combat should be Awesome - I basically want to be a killing machine. If I get into a hand to hand fight, I should be able to perform an awesome move that kills them immediately. I really liked the button prompts used on god of war, that should definately be used more often. I shouldn't dread fighting like I did in Uncharted.

5) Stop using the Sixaxis capability - It was a decent idea...Heavenly Sword made me hate it, Ratchet and Clank made me loathe it. Just ......just stop. Give me my rumble pack (I will always call it that!) and pretend the sixaxis capabilites never happened.

6) Give me more hot girls! - What's better than playing a mysterious man with a grim past that is pissed off at the world? How abotu a hot girl? Tomb Radier, Metroid, these are all good ones. I hate playing the same kind of person every time, I don't think anyone would have a problem playing though a game as a hot, bad ass woman.

I can't think of anymore right now. Please feel free to add some more on.

kevinlamar

You havent played Dark Sector, yet you're judging it? Its a really fun game. And The Darkness was awesome.

Forget Guns? What would happen to SHOOTER games. You kinda need guns to have a shooter game!!

Why wouldnt developers want to create cool new game modes. Retrieval in R6V1 was so fun.

Some games arent designed to have 2 player co op. Imagine Bioshock if it had that, it would serve no point.

You whine about hand to hand combat in games. In Drakes Fortune, Drake is a normal guy, therefore, he fights like one. Not every game character should fight like Kratos......

I like some of the things the Sixaxis has done in some games. It can be taken too far, yes, but some games use it very well for people who prefer the motion controls ie Warhawk

How about you focus more on hot girls in real life, and less about hot girls in videogames.

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#12 KamuiFei
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It's not hard to make a good game, in fact a good game is mostly in the eyes of the beholder. Maybe your standards are too high...
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Its little things that make these game over the top sometimes and developers are leaving them out left and right, this gen you are extremely luck if you have an online game that has mic support and simple features as vote, mute, friends invite, or to be able to choose the region of your choice!!!

Developers I feel treat the ps3 like a 2nd rate system and put unfinished crap onshelves while making milions!!!!

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#14 tgschmidt
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did you play the Darkness? The storyline explained why the darkness can't be in the light. Hence the name, The Darkness. It stuck to the comic books and is one of the better adaptations of an external media out there. As said above, just because you don't like something, doesn't mean others don't. I thought the shooting out the lights added to the game. You make it dark and then use your powers to their fullest.
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#15 GARRYTH
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in drakes fortune your an average guy so to expect him to kill in one hit you would be fighting 2 year olds. your fighting thugs that are thugs for a living. i like to see you take out a big fat pirate thug in one hit. now if your kratos im sure being a deme god you can kill in one hit. if you want hot chicks play heavily sword she was hot.

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#16 tommcruise
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Heavenly sword made you hate the sixaxis sensor function?

Please, I thought it was one of the best ways to use it. You just suck at shooting arrows.

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#17 The_Rick_14
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It's called "The Darkness" for a reason. Why is it so hard to make a good game? You answered it in your post. Because people are so damn nit-picky like yourself.

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#18 Generic_Dude
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I suggest you become a game designer and do all that yourself, also this way you can get "real intimate" with your female character.

5FingersOfDeath

Or at least address the problem instead of just complaining about it on an internet forum. What did that ever change?

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#19 gamenerd15
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ratchet and clank have had the best use of motion control along with folklore. Flying around with Clank kicked butt. you seem like an idiot and should not be allowed to own a system.