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#52 Hulabaloza
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[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.

Um, excuse me but what games came out for the PS3 in February? Uhhhh, none really. So fine, let's "wait until next month" when we see the effects of Motorstorm, virtua fighter 5, armored core 4 and oblivion. YOu act like its some great feat for the 360 to be outselling the PS3 right now when they have about five times as many games out. The fact is on a LEVEL playing field the PS3 is selling faster. You can't deny it. The charts are right there for you. And enough about the "supply problems" just because Sony learned their lesson from the PS2 launch doesn't mean that Microsoft gets a pass.

The 160k number was from last year on the 360. Feb 2006 360 - 160k (sold out).....Feb 2007 PS3 - 127k (with 1000's on shelves). The 360 sold 228,000 last month....almost double the PS3's sales. And what games did the 360 have last year in February? From memory.....Oblivion was still a couple months away. It was still pretty much living on launch games. I guarantee that Motorstorm or VF5 will sell next to zero consoles. Good games, but neither is worth $600.
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#53 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]PS3 outsold the 360 over its first months, but it should be noted that the 360 was heavily supply contrained at thgis time and was sold out for its first four months on the market, while the PS3 is in abundance on store shelves :(Nike_Air

It should also be noted that the xbox had no exciting games left when the 360 hit so people were desperate to get the next one. Desperate to play Kameo and PDZ i guess because they didn't have an a better option.The ps2/ps3 situation is completely different. Playstation fans don't have to get desperate at the moment withh all of the AAA/AA games that have released over the last few months.

You should probably run along to SW where you belong so I can own you there all day long and stop trolling the ps3 boards with the negativety of a blind hater.

 

 

dude - im a gamer at heart and i have to call total BS on what you just said.

i've bought all 3 current gen consoles and to be honest the excitement of launch + games was best with Wii, followed by 360, and PS3.

360 did have a brief lull when we were waiting for Oblivion and Dead Rising, but christ -- the ps3 is dead in the water games wise, nothing is fun -- almost everything is multi-plat, and it costs more.

Dude , what is the rush for a ps3 when all of these games have just released around the time of the ps3 release . Okami , FFXII , Guitar Hero II , Socom , Rogue Galaxy , Burnout Dominater , God of War II , ect.

Believe me , if the ps2 didn't have all of those games , ps3 sales would be much higher than they are now.

Your nothing is fun for the ps3 argument sucks too. Resistance and Motorstom are fun but the ps2s amazing quality is just overshadowing them a bit. People are well aware of tthose games and will be picking them up when they finally get a ps3 after the ps2. 

I couldnt' agree with you more -- but Motorstorm and Resistance aren't my cup of tea. I'm a PC shooter fan and Resistance is just soooo annoying. sold it 3 days after I bought it... and Motorstorm is like a kids racing game, it's fun when I have some friends over and we're drinking, but that's about it.

I'm just annoyed to hell that Sony didn't have the foresight to have some decent games in development for the launch -- its looking like we have to wait another year just to see a good AAA game on the PS3.. and that blows. 

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[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.3picuri3

Um, excuse me but what games came out for the PS3 in February? Uhhhh, none really. So fine, let's "wait until next month" when we see the effects of Motorstorm, virtua fighter 5, armored core 4 and oblivion. YOu act like its some great feat for the 360 to be outselling the PS3 right now when they have about five times as many games out. The fact is on a LEVEL playing field the PS3 is selling faster. You can't deny it. The charts are right there for you. And enough about the "supply problems" just because Sony learned their lesson from the PS2 launch doesn't mean that Microsoft gets a pass.

 

we can all deny it -- your using a totally flawed site to prove your point, doesn't matter that the fanbois in SW voted it the official source, it's still bunk.

 

just you wait until the stories start popping up about how pathetic the launch was -- then you can try to argue for the console.

So if vgcharts is wrong, do you propose a better source? OTherwise, shut up. You can't just point at something and say its wrong when you know NOTHING about it. NOR can you point out WHY its wrong. and on top of that, you can't point to ANYTHING else. So shut up

 

oooo - told me to shut up twice. big man. might have to pass this one on to the mods seeing you can't articulate your thoughts without lashing out at others.

 

i'll let you believe what you want to - i'm not going to lead you by the hand through the internets to show you what you should be perfectly capable of finding yourself.  

So you're saying that you REFUSE to produce evidence to support your argument? Great debate tactic.
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a level 1, with a GeOW avatar, and 3 posts. Let me consume into your all knowing fanboy knowledge.NitaraPwns

Awww I am sorry to tell you but I used to be a Sony fan boy.. I would have bought a PS3 if they made me want one.. Trouble is the 360 has all the good games and to top it off they are getting Sonys games..

Do I need to be level 20 to post the truth?

Keep sticking up for Sony.. I am sure they appreciate your 600 bucks..

Mark my words by next Xmas the war will be finished when Halo 3 again makes people who DON't have a 360 yet buy one when they will also be playing Sony past exclusives like GTA-IV and Devil May Cry..

;)

what part of 1st party exclusives don't u understand???!?!?
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#56 ermacness
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a level 1, with a GeOW avatar, and 3 posts. Let me consume into your all knowing fanboy knowledge.NitaraPwns

Awww I am sorry to tell you but I used to be a Sony fan boy.. I would have bought a PS3 if they made me want one.. Trouble is the 360 has all the good games and to top it off they are getting Sonys games..

Do I need to be level 20 to post the truth?

Keep sticking up for Sony.. I am sure they appreciate your 600 bucks..

Mark my words by next Xmas the war will be finished when Halo 3 again makes people who DON't have a 360 yet buy one when they will also be playing Sony past exclusives like GTA-IV and Devil May Cry..

;)

[QUOTE="Hulabaloza"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.

wrong the 360 was not sold out, now it sold better than ps3 but it didn't sell out

If I remember right, the 360's supply problems existed right up into May 2006. It was impossible to find a 360 during February last year.

no no no not last year fanboy last month!!!!!!!!!!!
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#57 gurjiwan
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This should shut all the ps3 haters up:  http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158204      It's a completely unbiased article from 1UP beleive it or not.  If VG charts isn't a good enough source this should be.
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So uh.. how bout video games.. yep... fun stuff... ... Truce?
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.ghaleon0721

Um, excuse me but what games came out for the PS3 in February? Uhhhh, none really. So fine, let's "wait until next month" when we see the effects of Motorstorm, virtua fighter 5, armored core 4 and oblivion. YOu act like its some great feat for the 360 to be outselling the PS3 right now when they have about five times as many games out. The fact is on a LEVEL playing field the PS3 is selling faster. You can't deny it. The charts are right there for you. And enough about the "supply problems" just because Sony learned their lesson from the PS2 launch doesn't mean that Microsoft gets a pass.

 

we can all deny it -- your using a totally flawed site to prove your point, doesn't matter that the fanbois in SW voted it the official source, it's still bunk.

 

just you wait until the stories start popping up about how pathetic the launch was -- then you can try to argue for the console.

So if vgcharts is wrong, do you propose a better source? OTherwise, shut up. You can't just point at something and say its wrong when you know NOTHING about it. NOR can you point out WHY its wrong. and on top of that, you can't point to ANYTHING else. So shut up

 

oooo - told me to shut up twice. big man. might have to pass this one on to the mods seeing you can't articulate your thoughts without lashing out at others.

 

i'll let you believe what you want to - i'm not going to lead you by the hand through the internets to show you what you should be perfectly capable of finding yourself.

So you're saying that you REFUSE to produce evidence to support your argument? Great debate tactic.

i don't argue with people like you :) thanks for shopping, come again. :)

 

i'll give you 3 letters, lets see if you can figure out their significance :) NDP.

 

wait until the official figures are released -- all online sales charts are complete BS and hardly any are adjusted to actual domestic product releases... and many, including VGcharts use different methodology for different consoles.

 

if you can tell me how VGCharts method makes sense - and explain it mathematically. ill believe you.

 

until then, it's what it is and always had been -- a site for pathetic fanbois to try to claim ownage over eachother with no sound scientific method whatsoever, and no proper adjustments for actual real world numbers.

 

care to prove me wrong? 

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#61 Hulabaloza
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no no no not last year fanboy last month!!!!!!!!!!!ermacness
Last month the XBOX 360 sold nearly twice as many consoles as the PS3.......228k vs 127k.........that's with no supply problems for either one. Just wait till the March numbers come in. It's going to be ugly.
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[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.3picuri3

Um, excuse me but what games came out for the PS3 in February? Uhhhh, none really. So fine, let's "wait until next month" when we see the effects of Motorstorm, virtua fighter 5, armored core 4 and oblivion. YOu act like its some great feat for the 360 to be outselling the PS3 right now when they have about five times as many games out. The fact is on a LEVEL playing field the PS3 is selling faster. You can't deny it. The charts are right there for you. And enough about the "supply problems" just because Sony learned their lesson from the PS2 launch doesn't mean that Microsoft gets a pass.

we can all deny it -- your using a totally flawed site to prove your point, doesn't matter that the fanbois in SW voted it the official source, it's still bunk.

just you wait until the stories start popping up about how pathetic the launch was -- then you can try to argue for the console.

would this be a better source? http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158204
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I'm guessing because it's 600 dollars.
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FACT - PS3 offers free online play FACT - PS3 is capable of WiFi right out of the box FACT - PS3 plays the latest, most popular video format (blu-ray) right out of the box FACT - If you wanted an Xbox 360 to do all those things above, you would spend $750 (25% MORE than the PS3 costs) FACT - There are 3rd party exclusives that will use the power of the PS3 and therefore will NOT appear on other consoles FACT - Sony has the longest, and richest history of 1st party exclusives of anyone except for Nintendo FACT - The PS3 is selling faster than the Xbox 360 FACT - Outside of North America the Xbox 360 is WAY behind FACT - The PS3 offers a motion sensitive controller that is being used in better and better ways all the time. Those are the facts. Those are not my opinions. Those are all backed up by actual events, data from vgcharts.org, and categorical truths that cannot be denied.
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#66 ermacness
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[QUOTE="Hulabaloza"][QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.

Um, excuse me but what games came out for the PS3 in February? Uhhhh, none really. So fine, let's "wait until next month" when we see the effects of Motorstorm, virtua fighter 5, armored core 4 and oblivion. YOu act like its some great feat for the 360 to be outselling the PS3 right now when they have about five times as many games out. The fact is on a LEVEL playing field the PS3 is selling faster. You can't deny it. The charts are right there for you. And enough about the "supply problems" just because Sony learned their lesson from the PS2 launch doesn't mean that Microsoft gets a pass.

The 160k number was from last year on the 360. Feb 2006 360 - 160k (sold out).....Feb 2007 PS3 - 127k (with 1000's on shelves). The 360 sold 228,000 last month....almost double the PS3's sales. And what games did the 360 have last year in February? From memory.....Oblivion was still a couple months away. It was still pretty much living on launch games. I guarantee that Motorstorm or VF5 will sell next to zero consoles. Good games, but neither is worth $600.

umm WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fight night round 3 (a highly anticipated title) and full auto (although it sucks now but back then alot of people was gun-ho 4 this title as well) and the 360 had no comp when it was in the feb-mar era and oblivion came out in march so it was the following month
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Sony has no big exclusives left..

Big Brother Bill whopped up on Sony.

Seriosuly Sony should be ashamed of themselves.. They had a huge following and MS came in and crushed them at there own game.. Big time Exclusives going over to there platform same day.

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no exclusives? oh yeah, I forgot that Sony, the THIRD BIGGEST GAME STUDIO COMPANY IN THE WORLD, doesn't make games for the PS3. I can't believe I totally forgot about that.
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#68 2beers_in_hand
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Whats up with troll fest today oh thats right its the European launch. The only bad article Ive read thus far is about the French launch but once again. Is the reason for this simply because more people decided to pre-order instead. And who's to say that alot of people weren't turned of with waiting in line. Due to all the crazy bull crap that happened at the American launch.
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#69 vags-k
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Well, I think the problem is that ps3 "signature" games haven't game out yet. Think about when does metal gear solid 4, assassin's creed, final fantasy 13 come out? Once they come out maybe you will see a jump in sells. The real question should be is how come sony hasn't taken any of xbox signatures games? like gears of war or halo for that matter.
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QQ MORE Sony Fan Boys.. Can you say Sega Dreamcast 2..LOL

History is repeating

Nintendo Owned by Sega

Sega Owned by Sony

Sony owned by Microsoft.. ROFL..

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I fail to see the ownage, fanboy. or maybe you can actually provide proof? oh wait, fanboys can't do that. so I guess I will be waiting for a while.
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#71 ermacness
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QQ MORE Sony Fan Boys.. Can you say Sega Dreamcast 2..LOL

History is repeating

Nintendo Owned by Sega

Sega Owned by Sony

Sony owned by Microsoft.. ROFL..

NitaraPwns
u r a blind fanboy 4 real none of what u posted is true nintendo didn't get owned by sega moron nintendo still exsist
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[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]care to prove me wrong? 

3picuri3
Prove you wrong? You didn't make an argument other than to say that Vgcharts is stupid. Until you explain WHY they are stupid and exactly WHY you disagree with their methodology there is nothing to prove wrong. How about this one.....I had unicorn for dinner last night Care to prove me wrong?
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FACT - PS3 offers free online play FACT - PS3 is capable of WiFi right out of the box FACT - PS3 plays the latest, most popular video format (blu-ray) right out of the box FACT - If you wanted an Xbox 360 to do all those things above, you would spend $750 (25% MORE than the PS3 costs) FACT - There are 3rd party exclusives that will use the power of the PS3 and therefore will NOT appear on other consoles FACT - Sony has the longest, and richest history of 1st party exclusives of anyone except for Nintendo FACT - The PS3 is selling faster than the Xbox 360 FACT - Outside of North America the Xbox 360 is WAY behind FACT - The PS3 offers a motion sensitive controller that is being used in better and better ways all the time. Those are the facts. Those are not my opinions. Those are all backed up by actual events, data from vgcharts.org, and categorical truths that cannot be denied.ghaleon0721

:lol:

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#74 ShadowDeathX
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Playstation is doing pretty good. Playstation 3 outsold 360 in its months from there own launchs. Also u have to rem. 360 didnt have any competion during its launch or anything what so ever until a year later. Playstation has Nintendo and Xbox to go against. So Playstation is doing good. I'll give 360 8 months before it goes to 2nd and about 1.5 years more before it goes to 3rd place.
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#75 SOedipus
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[QUOTE="Hulabaloza"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.

wrong the 360 was not sold out, now it sold better than ps3 but it didn't sell out

If I remember right, the 360's supply problems existed right up into May 2006. It was impossible to find a 360 during February last year.

whatever makes you sleep better at night, i could find a 360 easy a month after launch (like the ps3), and lets not forget the huge playstation fanbase from the previous generations, and with the 360 unable to gather a foothold in asia we all know it's going to end up in 3rd at the end of this race, so gloat now while you can, but in SW please
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#76 ShadowDeathX
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[QUOTE="NitaraPwns"]

QQ MORE Sony Fan Boys.. Can you say Sega Dreamcast 2..LOL

History is repeating

Nintendo Owned by Sega

Sega Owned by Sony

Sony owned by Microsoft.. ROFL..

ermacness
u r a blind fanboy 4 real none of what u posted is true nintendo didn't get owned by sega moron nintendo still exsist

Mircosoft owned by Nintendo Sega Returns .......... Story goes on...
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price and lack of games
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#78 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.eclipsed4utoo

Um, excuse me but what games came out for the PS3 in February? Uhhhh, none really. So fine, let's "wait until next month" when we see the effects of Motorstorm, virtua fighter 5, armored core 4 and oblivion. YOu act like its some great feat for the 360 to be outselling the PS3 right now when they have about five times as many games out. The fact is on a LEVEL playing field the PS3 is selling faster. You can't deny it. The charts are right there for you. And enough about the "supply problems" just because Sony learned their lesson from the PS2 launch doesn't mean that Microsoft gets a pass.

 

we can all deny it -- your using a totally flawed site to prove your point, doesn't matter that the fanbois in SW voted it the official source, it's still bunk.

 

just you wait until the stories start popping up about how pathetic the launch was -- then you can try to argue for the console.

would this be a better source? http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158204

no, not at all. lol.

did you read it? demand was high for 360s through that period, as the article acknowledges. the only point that might help someone trying to argue for Sony was the main point made with rose colored glasses on.

fact is Sony has supply, there isn't serious demand. 360 had no supply, and large demand (not wii demand, but people were still lining up for shipments 3 months after it released in my city - something you'd never see for the PS3).

if anything that article condemns Sony. it's a what-if scenario. If MS and Sony had the same supply through that period then you could argue for Sony, but the fact is they were both in very different situations, and MS looks far more favorable.

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#79 Rakuho
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[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="NitaraPwns"]

Gears of War, Halo 3, GTA-IV

Any Questions?

Sony lost the console war for being arrogant.

NitaraPwns

So the war is over after 4 months? move along fanboy. move on back to system wars.

 

Haha truth hurts ehh?

 Lets see... Gears of War Owned Sony at launch..

 Next Xmas.. Halo 3 Ownz Sony yet again and Sony has no big titles left to compete..

 GOOD BYE SONY... Bend Over !! 

Please leave. Comments this narrow-minded need to be on system wars not on key word:normal people forms.

As for the PS3's "slow" sales probably have to do with, and it hurts me to say it because it really doesn't apply to me, is price and a fairly small but definitely growing selection of games (I don't have that problem because I think there are already enough games out there, and if you're one of those people waiting for specific game, something is wrong with that picture, because it's not worth to send even $200 for 1 game, makes sense? so I get a felling those are just hidden truth excuses.

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#80 dontbhatin06
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the price
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#81 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="Hulabaloza"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.SOedipus
wrong the 360 was not sold out, now it sold better than ps3 but it didn't sell out

If I remember right, the 360's supply problems existed right up into May 2006. It was impossible to find a 360 during February last year.

whatever makes you sleep better at night, i could find a 360 easy a month after launch (like the ps3), and lets not forget the huge playstation fanbase from the previous generations, and with the 360 unable to gather a foothold in asia we all know it's going to end up in 3rd at the end of this race, so gloat now while you can, but in SW please

BS - unless you live under a rock. and if that is the case, WTF didn't you buy them and sell them on Ebay???? People were still making like 3-500$ profit 3 months after launch, and that's a complete fact. 

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FACT - PS3 offers free online play FACT - PS3 is capable of WiFi right out of the box FACT - PS3 plays the latest, most popular video format (blu-ray) right out of the box FACT - If you wanted an Xbox 360 to do all those things above, you would spend $750 (25% MORE than the PS3 costs) FACT - There are 3rd party exclusives that will use the power of the PS3 and therefore will NOT appear on other consoles FACT - Sony has the longest, and richest history of 1st party exclusives of anyone except for Nintendo FACT - The PS3 is selling faster than the Xbox 360 FACT - Outside of North America the Xbox 360 is WAY behind FACT - The PS3 offers a motion sensitive controller that is being used in better and better ways all the time. Those are the facts. Those are not my opinions. Those are all backed up by actual events, data from vgcharts.org, and categorical truths that cannot be denied.ghaleon0721

 

Maybe you should stop reading Fanboy sites for your news -- 1/3 of those are NOT facts. and they don't make the PS3 any more appealing for me (and I own one, lol). 

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[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"]FACT - PS3 offers free online play FACT - PS3 is capable of WiFi right out of the box FACT - PS3 plays the latest, most popular video format (blu-ray) right out of the box FACT - If you wanted an Xbox 360 to do all those things above, you would spend $750 (25% MORE than the PS3 costs) FACT - There are 3rd party exclusives that will use the power of the PS3 and therefore will NOT appear on other consoles FACT - Sony has the longest, and richest history of 1st party exclusives of anyone except for Nintendo FACT - The PS3 is selling faster than the Xbox 360 FACT - Outside of North America the Xbox 360 is WAY behind FACT - The PS3 offers a motion sensitive controller that is being used in better and better ways all the time. Those are the facts. Those are not my opinions. Those are all backed up by actual events, data from vgcharts.org, and categorical truths that cannot be denied.3picuri3

 

Maybe you should stop reading Fanboy sites for your news -- 1/3 of those are NOT facts. and they don't make the PS3 any more appealing for me (and I own one, lol). 

Exaclty which 1/3 are not facts?
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Would you people care to take this to System Wars?

What amazes me most is that the lot of you Sony haters simply want to ARGUE endlessly without rhyme or reason.

Are you preaching gospel from God? Did someone pay you to come here to the PS3 forums and argue with people who are in a good mood because your annointed beloved game console might not be as important with the PS3 release?

Oh yes... Then you people whine when people say "please leave".

Sad. Very sad.

 

 

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Whats up with troll fest today oh thats right its the European launch. The only bad article Ive read thus far is about the French launch but once again. Is the reason for this simply because more people decided to pre-order instead. And who's to say that alot of people weren't turned of with waiting in line. Due to all the crazy bull crap that happened at the American launch.2beers_in_hand

 

HAHAHAHA - the french and czech launches were the only successes. lol.

better find a better gaming news source. 

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[QUOTE="SOedipus"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.3picuri3

wrong the 360 was not sold out, now it sold better than ps3 but it didn't sell out

If I remember right, the 360's supply problems existed right up into May 2006. It was impossible to find a 360 during February last year.

whatever makes you sleep better at night, i could find a 360 easy a month after launch (like the ps3), and lets not forget the huge playstation fanbase from the previous generations, and with the 360 unable to gather a foothold in asia we all know it's going to end up in 3rd at the end of this race, so gloat now while you can, but in SW please

BS - unless you live under a rock. and if that is the case, WTF didn't you buy them and sell them on Ebay???? People were still making like 3-500$ profit 3 months after launch, and that's a complete fact. 

well at least you're taking my advice ;)
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This is all pointless..... Look at the trend line. Given that there are no more supply problems, starting in January.....look at the sales trends for each console. That will tell you the PS3's problem. Want to know the cause? Stupid moves by Sony, in particular a astronomical price, bad press and angry fans What will make it even worse? The shock when what publishers have already done is made public....make the games that made the Playstation brand multiplatform (or worse). DMC, GTA....just the start....guaranteed. That stuff isn't over yet. Want to know what's going to happen? Drop off in sales of the console. A clear distancing between the PS3 & competition. That's if Sony does nothing. They can make changes, but at this point it has to be drastic and probably has to happen before the holidays, cause if the loss of momentum is very clear to the consumers.....it could be a short ride.
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#89 3picuri3
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Would you people care to take this to System Wars?

What amazes me most is that the lot of you Sony haters simply want to ARGUE endlessly without rhyme or reason.

Are you preaching gospel from God? Did someone pay you to come here to the PS3 forums and argue with people who are in a good mood because your annointed beloved game console might not be as important with the PS3 release?

Oh yes... Then you people whine when people say "please leave".

Sad. Very sad.

 

 

UntoldDreams

 

Only sad thing is your comment hi-jacking. If you feel the thread is out of place report it and move on. The rest of us would like to debate PS3 sales.

 

kthanks. 

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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="SOedipus"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.SOedipus

wrong the 360 was not sold out, now it sold better than ps3 but it didn't sell out

If I remember right, the 360's supply problems existed right up into May 2006. It was impossible to find a 360 during February last year.

whatever makes you sleep better at night, i could find a 360 easy a month after launch (like the ps3), and lets not forget the huge playstation fanbase from the previous generations, and with the 360 unable to gather a foothold in asia we all know it's going to end up in 3rd at the end of this race, so gloat now while you can, but in SW please

BS - unless you live under a rock. and if that is the case, WTF didn't you buy them and sell them on Ebay???? People were still making like 3-500$ profit 3 months after launch, and that's a complete fact.

well at least you're taking my advice ;)

 

what advice? lol 

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[QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]This is all pointless..... Look at the trend line. Given that there are no more supply problems, starting in January.....look at the sales trends for each console. That will tell you the PS3's problem. Want to know the cause? Stupid moves by Sony, in particular a astronomical price, bad press and angry fans What will make it even worse? The shock when what publishers have already done is made public....make the games that made the Playstation brand multiplatform (or worse). DMC, GTA....just the start....guaranteed. That stuff isn't over yet. Want to know what's going to happen? Drop off in sales of the console. A clear distancing between the PS3 & competition. That's if Sony does nothing. They can make changes, but at this point it has to be drastic and probably has to happen before the holidays, cause if the loss of momentum is very clear to the consumers.....it could be a short ride.

The trend line is irrelevant because the xbox 360 has an extra christmas season. Take out November and December 2006 and I'll be happy to look at the trendline
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#92 loud_mouth_94
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QQ MORE Sony Fan Boys.. Can you say Sega Dreamcast 2..LOL

History is repeating

Nintendo Owned by Sega

Sega Owned by Sony

Sony owned by Microsoft.. ROFL..

NitaraPwns

Is this kid actually complaining because there are some sony fans here.

 I hope that you remeber that this is a Playstation 3 forum.

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#93 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]This is all pointless..... Look at the trend line. Given that there are no more supply problems, starting in January.....look at the sales trends for each console. That will tell you the PS3's problem. Want to know the cause? Stupid moves by Sony, in particular a astronomical price, bad press and angry fans What will make it even worse? The shock when what publishers have already done is made public....make the games that made the Playstation brand multiplatform (or worse). DMC, GTA....just the start....guaranteed. That stuff isn't over yet. Want to know what's going to happen? Drop off in sales of the console. A clear distancing between the PS3 & competition. That's if Sony does nothing. They can make changes, but at this point it has to be drastic and probably has to happen before the holidays, cause if the loss of momentum is very clear to the consumers.....it could be a short ride. ghaleon0721
The trend line is irrelevant because the xbox 360 has an extra christmas season. Take out November and December 2006 and I'll be happy to look at the trendline

 

what you just said makes absolutely no sense.

 

he was talking about comparing the trends over the same periods separated by a year I believe. 

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[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"]FACT - PS3 offers free online play FACT - PS3 is capable of WiFi right out of the box FACT - PS3 plays the latest, most popular video format (blu-ray) right out of the box FACT - If you wanted an Xbox 360 to do all those things above, you would spend $750 (25% MORE than the PS3 costs) FACT - There are 3rd party exclusives that will use the power of the PS3 and therefore will NOT appear on other consoles FACT - Sony has the longest, and richest history of 1st party exclusives of anyone except for Nintendo FACT - The PS3 is selling faster than the Xbox 360 FACT - Outside of North America the Xbox 360 is WAY behind FACT - The PS3 offers a motion sensitive controller that is being used in better and better ways all the time. Those are the facts. Those are not my opinions. Those are all backed up by actual events, data from vgcharts.org, and categorical truths that cannot be denied.Deihmos

:lol:

Hey you no whats real funny how M$ screwed all you Xbots by coming out with new hardware.
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The 1st problem with the "The PS3 is selling faster than the x360 at this point" argument is that the x360 is out-selling the PS3 NOW with no signs of that changing. Any possible ground the PS3 is supposedly gaining on the x360 is being offset by the sales of the x360 NOW.

The other problem with the argument is that Feb07 NPD numbers showed the PS3 being outsold by a whopping 101k units. The x360 sold 160k units in Feb06. Technically, the PS3 still has a "lead" of 40k at this point, but if March07 turns out like Feb07, then the PS3's "lead" will no longer exist.

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PS360 FTW, why are we fighting guys? imo if you have one or the other then you're all set this gen
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The 1st problem with the "The PS3 is selling faster than the x360 at this point" argument is that the x360 is out-selling the PS3 NOW with no signs of that changing. Any possible ground the PS3 is supposedly gaining on the x360 is being offset by the sales of the x360 NOW.

The other problem with the argument is that Feb07 NPD numbers showed the PS3 being outsold by a whopping 101k units. The x360 sold 160k units in Feb06. Technically, the PS3 still has a "lead" of 40k at this point, but if March07 turns out like Feb07, then the PS3's "lead" will no longer exist.

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What PS3 games came out in February? Could that be an indicator of why the system sold so poorly in February? I'm not denying that Sony's software support is coming slowly. But it REALLY picked up in March. Sony is only going to build on their lead in March.
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PS360 FTW, why are we fighting guys? imo if you have one or the other then you're all set this genSOedipus
No, you're wrong. You're all set with either console for about the next 1.5 to 2 years. After that, more and more games will be coming out that harness the awesome power of the PS3. That means that ALL (as in every single one) of the best games will be PS3 exclusives. That is unless Microsfot makes you fork over more money for another console 3 years after the 360 launch. I can't wait to see how well that goes over.
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.ghaleon0721

Um, excuse me but what games came out for the PS3 in February? Uhhhh, none really. So fine, let's "wait until next month" when we see the effects of Motorstorm, virtua fighter 5, armored core 4 and oblivion. YOu act like its some great feat for the 360 to be outselling the PS3 right now when they have about five times as many games out. The fact is on a LEVEL playing field the PS3 is selling faster. You can't deny it. The charts are right there for you. And enough about the "supply problems" just because Sony learned their lesson from the PS2 launch doesn't mean that Microsoft gets a pass.

 

we can all deny it -- your using a totally flawed site to prove your point, doesn't matter that the fanbois in SW voted it the official source, it's still bunk.

 

just you wait until the stories start popping up about how pathetic the launch was -- then you can try to argue for the console.

So if vgcharts is wrong, do you propose a better source? OTherwise, shut up. You can't just point at something and say its wrong when you know NOTHING about it. NOR can you point out WHY its wrong. and on top of that, you can't point to ANYTHING else. So shut up

 

oooo - told me to shut up twice. big man. might have to pass this one on to the mods seeing you can't articulate your thoughts without lashing out at others.

 

i'll let you believe what you want to - i'm not going to lead you by the hand through the internets to show you what you should be perfectly capable of finding yourself.  

So you're saying that you REFUSE to produce evidence to support your argument? Great debate tactic.

lol! owned