Why the PS3 is having a tough time.

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#51 fridayguy
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no hd dvd movies
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#52 jayhadit
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[QUOTE="GameArtGuy"]Are people just illiterate... this isnt a WHY THE PS3 is doing bad... its why do you think the ps3 is getting all the hate its getting.... Half of you just joined this and started talking about trolls and blah blah blah..... learn to frickin read kids... its a skill you're going to need later on. Why do you think the PS3 is getting the hate its getting.... those are reasons why HE THINKS its getting the hate... not why he hates it....

I fear you're fishing for albacore in the East River here. Remember it's an gaming website.
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#53 GameArtGuy
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[QUOTE="jayhadit"][QUOTE="GameArtGuy"]Are people just illiterate... this isnt a WHY THE PS3 is doing bad... its why do you think the ps3 is getting all the hate its getting.... Half of you just joined this and started talking about trolls and blah blah blah..... learn to frickin read kids... its a skill you're going to need later on. Why do you think the PS3 is getting the hate its getting.... those are reasons why HE THINKS its getting the hate... not why he hates it....

I fear you're fishing for albacore in the East River here. Remember it's an gaming website.

im not a fisherman, but i get what your saying... Ive come to the conclusion that the PS3 is not hated for any of the reasons listed above, in fact its not hated at all... but the people on these websites choose to take every news story or editorial as a fact, or as somthing to argue about instead of taking it for what it is... a discussion. The reason the PS3 is hated isnt because people actually hate it, its because most people here love it more than they should, its too much of a priority to them, and thus they act as if its their duty to defend anything that might be spoken badly about it.
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#54 darkangel_78589
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[QUOTE="fridayguy"]

and also if you think about it xbox 360 isnt cheap either. lets compare. ps3 - 600 ( 60 ) xbox 400 with hd dvd player 200 = 600. hmmm how about that

blem16

i agree that the 360 isnt cheap, but with the 360 you have the Choice of getting the hd dvd player or not. If you dont want it, you can just get the system for 400 and not be inclined to pay $200 for the hd dvd player, unlike the PS3 where u Have to pay for the blueray player whether you want it or not 'cause its included. Although the ps3 is a much greater value than the 360, ppl just don't seem to care cause blueray isn't the standard for movies yet.

See...This is the problem with so many people. People fear change, on just about every level. But, as it comes to technology, change is a good thing. But, as a result of said change, things will be costly. A lot of people say "Oh, I don't need this." And/or, "I don't want that." But, contrary to that, others are saying, "I don't mind it." Personally, I see so much potential in the new technology held within the PlayStation 3, when it comes to developing games, or the like. Whereas, others are content with the more...safer console.. Granted, the 360 is a step up from the previous gen, but, anyone would be foolish to pass on the fact that, given enough time, and, the effort put forth by game developers, the newer tecnology may surpass all our expectations. In any case, in the end, it's what the consumer wants. And, regardless on what others think, or feel compelled to say to the contrary, they will stick to what they want. That's basically what it boils down too..
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#55 UntoldDreams
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Look here GameArtGuy...  The only thing that makes me sad about haters is that... quite honestly it shows that people are simply manipulated lego wind up toys.

1) For people to think, even for an instant, that a cruel monopoly like Microsoft which cost us taxpayers untold millions of dollars (I still haven't forgiven them for Netscape) is a "NICE GUY" company shocks the hell out of me.   Quite simply because they make a stupid video game machine they have successfully brainwashed the mtv generation.   I am stunned.  They are under antitrust litigation in UK/Japan/Korea.
** China nearly banned their asses a few years back until damage control flew in

2) For me to see young children defend Nintendo simply because they love pikachu is terrible.

That horrible cult?  The Church of Scientology?  Did you know they have their hand in NeoPets in order to manipulate some agenda?   Scary to think your children one day might get sucked into some evil corporation/church/cult isn't it?  I dislike that children find reason to hate another human being for corporations...  That is NOT what I want children to learn.

3)  Sony.   They are a conglomerate out to make money.   I wouldn't say they are better or worse than any other big evil corporation.   However, they simply haven't had as much success as Microsoft at screwing all the taxpayers over (MS is 10 times the size of Sony in Market Capitalization).  Does this make them less evil?   Probably not.   It's like saying a failed crook is a better person than the successful crook.  They are both money hungry corporations.


So here's my answer to your hatred question:
There is no personal reason for us to have emotional loyalty towards corporations.  The only thing we should want is for "innovation" to win and a healthy competitive environment to survive.

Sony should not be the only player.  That would be terrible.
Nintendo should not be the only player.  That would be terrible.

Microsoft makes 3 billion dollars profit EVERY QUARTER off of an already borderline illegal monopoly.  I would suggest they should *not* be allowed to take over the gaming industry since to be honest don't they make enough money already?  They can be a healthy 2nd or 3rd but god forbid they own Business Computers, Home Computer, The Living Room, and the Game Systems.

* What kind of insanity would allow us to give this much power to anyone?


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#56 GameArtGuy
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Look here GameArtGuy... The only thing that makes me sad about haters is that... quite honestly it shows that people are simply manipulated lego wind up toys.

1) For people to think, even for an instant, that a cruel monopoly like Microsoft which cost us taxpayers untold millions of dollars (I still haven't forgiven them for Netscape) is a "NICE GUY" company shocks the hell out of me. Quite simply because they make a stupid video game machine they have successfully brainwashed the mtv generation. I am stunned. They are under antitrust litigation in UK/Japan/Korea.
** China nearly banned their asses a few years back until damage control flew in

2) For me to see young children defend Nintendo simply because they love pikachu is terrible.

That horrible cult? The Church of Scientology? Did you know they have their hand in NeoPets in order to manipulate some agenda? Scary to think your children one day might get sucked into some evil corporation/church/cult isn't it? I dislike that children find reason to hate another human being for corporations... That is NOT what I want children to learn.

3) Sony. They are a conglomerate out to make money. I wouldn't say they are better or worse than any other big evil corporation. However, they simply haven't had as much success as Microsoft at screwing all the taxpayers over (MS is 10 times the size of Sony in Market Capitalization). Does this make them less evil? Probably not. It's like saying a failed crook is a better person than the successful crook. They are both money hungry corporations.


So here's my answer to your hatred question:
There is no personal reason for us to have emotional loyalty towards corporations. The only thing we should want is for "innovation" to win and a healthy competitive environment to survive.

Sony should not be the only player. That would be terrible.
Nintendo should not be the only player. That would be terrible.

Microsoft makes 3 billion dollars profit EVERY QUARTER off of an already borderline illegal monopoly. I would suggest they should *not* be allowed to take over the gaming industry since to be honest don't they make enough money already? They can be a healthy 2nd or 3rd but god forbid they own Business Computers, Home Computer, The Living Room, and the Game Systems.

* What kind of insanity would allow us to give this much power to anyone?


UntoldDreams
Very well said... completely 100% agree.  Just watching how upset people have gotten over this post is a clear example of what....to say it simply...disgusts me about "gamers" at the moment.  To think theres people here, in this forum who actually insulted, bashed, and formed a hatred over me simply because i dont agree with them on the terms of a video game console, or what company deserves my dollar is somthing we should all think about.  The fact that this topic generate a good amount of upset among people, simply because they did not read what the intent of this post was is scarey as well...  People here are attempting to catagorize other people on which console they own with names like Xbot, Lemming, Sheep, Cow, FonyFan, SDF, WiiTard (my least favorite one).... is plain and simple just disgusting.
And thats the point of me posting to article for all the people that have asked... not to see why you think people hate sony... but to see how you reacted to somthing so tiny.... i really could care less about the several PM's ive received calling me a troll from this post, or the fact ill probably be moderated... i wrote the article on that website, in an attempt to figure out why we do these tiny stupid things that we do, for my next article.
Good day all.
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#57 GameArtGuy
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I however do appreciate the people that were able to discuss this in a friendly manner, true gamers.
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Look here GameArtGuy... The only thing that makes me sad about haters is that... quite honestly it shows that people are simply manipulated lego wind up toys.

1) For people to think, even for an instant, that a cruel monopoly like Microsoft which cost us taxpayers untold millions of dollars (I still haven't forgiven them for Netscape) is a "NICE GUY" company shocks the hell out of me. Quite simply because they make a stupid video game machine they have successfully brainwashed the mtv generation. I am stunned. They are under antitrust litigation in UK/Japan/Korea.
** China nearly banned their asses a few years back until damage control flew in

2) For me to see young children defend Nintendo simply because they love pikachu is terrible.

That horrible cult? The Church of Scientology? Did you know they have their hand in NeoPets in order to manipulate some agenda? Scary to think your children one day might get sucked into some evil corporation/church/cult isn't it? I dislike that children find reason to hate another human being for corporations... That is NOT what I want children to learn.

3) Sony. They are a conglomerate out to make money. I wouldn't say they are better or worse than any other big evil corporation. However, they simply haven't had as much success as Microsoft at screwing all the taxpayers over (MS is 10 times the size of Sony in Market Capitalization). Does this make them less evil? Probably not. It's like saying a failed crook is a better person than the successful crook. They are both money hungry corporations.


So here's my answer to your hatred question:
There is no personal reason for us to have emotional loyalty towards corporations. The only thing we should want is for "innovation" to win and a healthy competitive environment to survive.

Sony should not be the only player. That would be terrible.
Nintendo should not be the only player. That would be terrible.

Microsoft makes 3 billion dollars profit EVERY QUARTER off of an already borderline illegal monopoly. I would suggest they should *not* be allowed to take over the gaming industry since to be honest don't they make enough money already? They can be a healthy 2nd or 3rd but god forbid they own Business Computers, Home Computer, The Living Room, and the Game Systems.

* What kind of insanity would allow us to give this much power to anyone?


UntoldDreams
Great post I agree totally. I think of it like this look at EA with the madden franchise now think of that across the whole gaming world yeah not so pretty. When 1 company rules them all you have to buy what they give you or go without period no choice in the matter. Competition is healthy and spawns innovation and creativity. Soon as 1 company has control that all goes out the window.
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#59 GameArtGuy
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Go back and look at what you've all written... to me, this is why the PS3 is having a rough time
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#60 rob3nelson
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This is ridiculous. The PS3 is doing great in Japan. The XBox is dead last there. Check your facts, sir. They are inaccurate and you a racist!!!!
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#61 thestickman
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This is ridiculous. The PS3 is doing great in Japan. The XBox is dead last there. Check your facts, sir. They are inaccurate and you a racist!!!!rob3nelson
Have you even been paying ANY attention to this thread at all??
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#62 GameArtGuy
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[QUOTE="rob3nelson"]This is ridiculous. The PS3 is doing great in Japan. The XBox is dead last there. Check your facts, sir. They are inaccurate and you a racist!!!!thestickman
Have you even been paying ANY attention to this thread at all??

He just proved my point....
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#63 donalbane
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and also if you think about it xbox 360 isnt cheap either. lets compare. ps3 - 600 ( 60 ) xbox 400 with hd dvd player 200 = 600. hmmm how about that

fridayguy

Well if you don't want it, that's $200 in your pocket. With PS3 there's no choice, that's the point.

And btw, most 360 owners with HDTVs chose not to get the drive... that tells you that given the option, many PS3 owners would do the same.

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#64 risi37
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Just wait until the ps3 launches in Europe
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#65 stlcardinals
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the games on the 360 sucked when it first came out, the problem is that there was nothing to compair them to.  every argument is about the current ps3.  you can't overlook the future.
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#66 noodles12345678
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the games on the 360 sucked when it first came out, the problem is that there was nothing to compair them to. every argument is about the current ps3. you can't overlook the future.stlcardinals


actually the games that came out on 360 at launch were pretty good.  perfect dark zero, project gotham racing 3, call of duty 2, condemned, and kameo. kameo was kinda dumb though it was too easy and even though cod2 wasn't exclusive it only came out about a month after the pc version in october.  and right now ps3's only good exclusive game is resistance which i would say is comparable to perfect dark zero. resistance has a much better single player but pdz has better multiplayer in almost every aspect.

and what you said about every argument being against the current ps3...so what? it doesn't matter if its new and hasn't had time to get several great games and stuff, the fact is the system generally sucks right now.  doesn't mean it'll be bad later on down the road but it its future doesn't affect how i'm not having fun with it now.
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#67 donalbane
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I agree, noodles. I had a much better time with the launch offering of the 360, and it's not just because there wasn't competition... If I just purchased a 360 and still had a PS3, I'd still be enjoying the 360 games like PD0, Condemed, COD2 (WAY better than COD3) and Kameo far more than Resistance and Untold Legends, my two PS3 games. The Wii sweetened the launch-pot by including a great bundled game and offering up one of the greatest adventure games ever as a day-one title, although I must admit I almost never play the WIi now that those 2 titles have come and gone. I have lots of Wii games, but I just don't want to play them very much... they kinda' feel launchy. Can't wait for Metroid. Believe me, I want to enjoy the PS3... I have a stake in it's success, since that would make me feel good about the (sizable) purchase. I just don't see much coming down the pipes that's going to do that in the near future. Motorstom looks OK, but racing has never been my thing. I'm banking of VF5 at this point, even though traditionally I am a Namco man when it comes to fighers, and never really got into the series very much. Still, I hope my enjoyment of the system goes up when I can feed it some high quality games. I guess March is going to be pretty interesting... I hope they have some real standout games.
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#68 nanomecha4
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someone should make a "why the 360 is having a tough time" thread on the 360 forum, and see if they dont lock it lol. They let this garbage fly on the ps3 forum but GS wont let it fly on the 360 forum.
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#69 strickers6
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It's true,the 360 has sold poorly.The wool is being pulled over your eyes.The PS3 has outsold the 360 by this point in it's life.10.4 million 360s is a lie.MS changed what sold meant and actually mean sold to stores or in other words SHIPPED.
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#70 LosDaddie
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Price is the #1 factor. this will become more evident as the year progresses.
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#71 LosDaddie
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someone should make a "why the 360 is having a tough time" thread on the 360 forum, and see if they dont lock it lol. They let this garbage fly on the ps3 forum but GS wont let it fly on the 360 forum. nanomecha4

Why don't you start a thread and see how it turn out instead of assuming?

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#72 Beba_FH
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Why Did He Post This? Plus PS3 Rocks and it has more hard drive space :)

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#73 cluney
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and also if you think about it xbox 360 isnt cheap either. lets compare. ps3 - 600 ( 60 ) xbox 400 with hd dvd player 200 = 600. hmmm how about that

fridayguy

You people that keep saying this is angering me.  You dont have to buy the hddvd player with the 360 but you do have to buy the bluray for the ps3.  And if you add accessories to the price of the 360 why not throw in a $200 ps3 acessory (if there is one) to make it fair??

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#74 AssKick-U-Lator
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i still dont see how u can say its doing so bad in sales when everywhere i go it sells out. sure it hasnt sold many, but isnt that cuz they barely released any? any place that DID have them has sold out for a long time
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i still dont see how u can say its doing so bad in sales when everywhere i go it sells out. sure it hasnt sold many, but isnt that cuz they barely released any? any place that DID have them has sold out for a long timeAssKick-U-Lator
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#76 TJSAGE
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I love the look, Blu Ray is awsome for movies and is grabbing control of the next gen DVD quickly.  So far the only game I have, R-FOM, COD and FN are absolutly sick.  After I get motorstorm, download Mortal Kombat2, get Rainbox6, Oblivion, Medal of HOnor, advanced war fighter2, I will be set for a good amount of time.  People are going crazy  just after 2 months of its debut
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#77 davez82
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i think wii is giving ps3 a hard time now.. the other machine i dont think is having an effect much and i think thats all sony cares about. Its just trying to acquire the hardcore market and i think its doing the best job so far in doing that.
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#78 abstractreality
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and also if you think about it xbox 360 isnt cheap either. lets compare. ps3 - 600 ( 60 ) xbox 400 with hd dvd player 200 = 600. hmmm how about that

fridayguy


I would much rather choose to have the add on then have it forced down my throat unnecessarily.  I don't care for either format.....so the 360 is cheaper for me.  But that still not why I dont have a PS3

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HERE ARE THE TOP REASONS WHY ANY FOOL WOULD HATE THE PS3:

1. WANT ONE, BUT ARE TO POOR TO AFFORD ONE.

2. ARE IN MAJOR DENIAL.

3. FAIL TO REALIZE THAT IT IS STILL JUST 3 MONTHS OLD.

4. HAVENT ACTUALLY PLAYED ONE OTHER THAN THE DEMOS AT WAL-MART

5. NEED GLASSES BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY THINK THE XBOX'S CASE LOOKS BETTER

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#80 Xeonz
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HERE ARE THE TOP REASONS WHY ANY FOOL WOULD HATE THE PS3:

1. WANT ONE, BUT ARE TO POOR TO AFFORD ONE.

2. ARE IN MAJOR DENIAL.

3. FAIL TO REALIZE THAT IT IS STILL JUST 3 MONTHS OLD.

4. HAVENT ACTUALLY PLAYED ONE OTHER THAN THE DEMOS AT WAL-MART

5. NEED GLASSES BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY THINK THE XBOX'S CASE LOOKS BETTER

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Here are the top reasons any fool would write in caps: 1. Their 'caps lock' key is stuck.
2. They want to attract people's attention. 3. They are shouting on top of their lungs. 4. To annoy others. 5. Too lazy to write in lower case letters. As for #5, PS3's case looks better because of the gloss (which can get scratched easily by dust particles), other than that, PS3 has an awkward, ugly shape, looking like a house roof, with weird edges sticking out. I know how much people made fun of the original Xbox because it was huge and bulky, but now it's the opposite.