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#51 lextexrex
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I really like the battle system of Star Ocean: Till the End of Time the4got10one

that was pretty cool.

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#52 tagzskie
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its time to get back the true essence of RPG!!! turn base YAHA!!!

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#53 acidic_dude
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so i read there will be no random battles(witch doesnt bother me)but it will be ACTIVE TIME BATTLE SYSTEM witch means it will be by commands like ff7,8,9,10....... i didn't like FF12 battle system, its not bad but i didn't like it.el-tope-pr
Yea i hate the FFXII battle system. Too much like a mmo.CrazyFanboy
so i read there will be no random battles(witch doesnt bother me)but it will be ACTIVE TIME BATTLE SYSTEM witch means it will be by commands like ff7,8,9,10....... i didn't like FF12 battle system, its not bad but i didn't like it.el-tope-pr
what are you talking about, ff12 was by commands, I honestly dont get what you mean, it will most likely be just like the ff12 system, and I love it.
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#54 Thomas-Crown
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No random battle... Nice. Certainly saves allot of time. :P
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[QUOTE="el-tope-pr"]so i read there will be no random battles(witch doesnt bother me)but it will be ACTIVE TIME BATTLE SYSTEM witch means it will be by commands like ff7,8,9,10....... i didn't like FF12 battle system, its not bad but i didn't like it.acidic_dude
Yea i hate the FFXII battle system. Too much like a mmo.CrazyFanboy
so i read there will be no random battles(witch doesnt bother me)but it will be ACTIVE TIME BATTLE SYSTEM witch means it will be by commands like ff7,8,9,10....... i didn't like FF12 battle system, its not bad but i didn't like it.el-tope-pr
what are you talking about, ff12 was by commands, I honestly dont get what you mean, it will most likely be just like the ff12 system, and I love it.

Have you played another Final Fantasy game? Pick up Final Fantasy X (find it used for under $20) and then you'll know why Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX, X, and X-2's battle systems are far superior.

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#56 SikKwuN
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thats great to hear its won't be active time, a turn based battle system is just alot more epic. FFXII always felt kind of muted as far as epic battles goamericahellyeah

sikkwun agrees :P

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#57 Dragonblade01
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[QUOTE="acidic_dude"][QUOTE="el-tope-pr"]so i read there will be no random battles(witch doesnt bother me)but it will be ACTIVE TIME BATTLE SYSTEM witch means it will be by commands like ff7,8,9,10....... i didn't like FF12 battle system, its not bad but i didn't like it.dewmandew7

Yea i hate the FFXII battle system. Too much like a mmo.CrazyFanboy
so i read there will be no random battles(witch doesnt bother me)but it will be ACTIVE TIME BATTLE SYSTEM witch means it will be by commands like ff7,8,9,10....... i didn't like FF12 battle system, its not bad but i didn't like it.el-tope-pr
what are you talking about, ff12 was by commands, I honestly dont get what you mean, it will most likely be just like the ff12 system, and I love it.

Have you played another Final Fantasy game? Pick up Final Fantasy X (find it used for under $20) and then you'll know why Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX, X, and X-2's battle systems are far superior.

I personally don't see how you can determine superiority between such different gameplay styles. MMO and Traditional Turn-Based aren't really all that similar (with the exception of commands). Plus the introduction of the Gambit system in FFXII added a new element to that play style (which was necessary in order to have MMO style gameplay without playing with other players)

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#58 tokenisadog
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yes!!!!

as for versus, will that be like kingdom hearts or XII?

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#59 Dragonblade01
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yes!!!!

as for versus, will that be like kingdom hearts or XII?

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Action RPG, so more like Kingdom Hearts (hoping it is a little deeper than that though)

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#60 Panman_Dan
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I'll be sure to get this. I have been putting off getting a FF game and I've decided this one is going to be it. I looks great! I hope its still exclusive...
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#61 SPD_WeBmAsTaH
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I loved the FFXII battle system, no random encounters, and enemies are right beside you on the screen and it was great. I know both the FXIII games will be great so it doesn't matter how the battles go, Square-Enix will pull through.
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#62 Superstrokey
Member since 2005 • 832 Posts
I really like randowm encounters but along the smae lines as chrono trigger than the regular FF games. I still think to this day FF6 was the best of all of them. If they were return to that i would get this game in a second.
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#63 JerseyAL81
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All of the battle systems have positives and negatives. But all of the systems were good overall. FF7 had countless random encounters. But from the beginning of the game that made it feel very intense. The magic system was pretty good. (countless hours tryng to master Knights of Round). FF8 system was deep. But trying to draw 100 of every spell sometimes is a pain. FF9 let you have 4 people. But it wasn't anything groundbreaking. FF10 was probably the most polished game in the series. No complaints but the arena is brutal. FF12 had a very interesting system. The active battles was a nice additiion. And gambits were really cool. But some of them were worthless. And it kinda made the game easy and didnt make you feel "in the game." I would have liked to see more onscreen enemies and bigger, more powerful bosses. All of the games were great though and I cant wati for both versus and XIII
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#64 c0mplex
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lol... i don't think i would consider wikipedia the most reliable source. the source for their info on the combat system is a broken link.

but if this is true... i would be dissapointed. i don't have the most experience with turn based games... but the ones that i have played did not interest me. what i liked about XII's battle system was that the environment and the positioning of your characters mattered. if you wanted to heal a teammates... you had to be in a certain range of them. if you wanted to hit an enemy with a close combat weapon... you had to actually get next to them. along with the gambit system... i felt the game's battle system became more approachable while also still having the depth for those who wanted to be really good at the game.

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#65 Symphonycometh
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lol... i don't think i would consider wikipedia the most reliable source. the source for their info on the combat system is a broken link.

but if this is true... i would be dissapointed. i don't have the most experience with turn based games... but the ones that i have played did not interest me. what i liked about XII's battle system was that the environment and the positioning of your characters mattered. if you wanted to heal a teammates... you had to be in a certain range of them. if you wanted to hit an enemy with a close combat weapon... you had to actually get next to them. along with the gambit system... i felt the game's battle system became more approachable while also still having the depth for those who wanted to be really good at the game.

c0mplex

I was so good, that I was eating pizza while my characters owned the final bosses.:|

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#66 c0mplex
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what level were you when you beat it?
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#67 Symphonycometh
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what level were you when you beat it?c0mplex

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[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]X-2 was actually my favorite battle system, but thats great to hear its won't be active time, a turn based battle system is just alot more epic. FFXII always felt kind of muted as far as epic battles go, great to hear it. FFXIII will kick 455!schoony_5

I actually have to agree with you that X-2 is one of the better battle systems. I liked how fast it was, but that was about the only thing they got right with the game, back massage anyone?(that has to be themost disturbing partof any video game i've played)

X-2 was the same active time based system from FF4 to FF9. The only difference was the default option for X-2 was set on "active" instead of "wait" for when the timers expired.

But overall I'm glad they are going back to the active time based, it was overall my favorite type.

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#69 CommanderTy
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[QUOTE="el-tope-pr"]so i read there will be no random battles(witch doesnt bother me)but it will be ACTIVE TIME BATTLE SYSTEM witch means it will be by commands like ff7,8,9,10....... i didn't like FF12 battle system, its not bad but i didn't like it.fistoflight

FInal Fantasy 13 time/turned based. Final fantasy versus 13 realtime/ no turned based but open fighting.

So your saying Versus is going to be kinda like DMC???
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#70 Sphire
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I love turn-based games. FFX more so than the active type, but I still love it. No random encounters? great. But I hope they implement it as they did in Chrono cross, rather than in FFXII. Chrono cross had one of the best gameplay system in the rpg genre. No random encounters, enemies didn't chase you around causing you to run like idiots trying to find the exit(which would have been fine if you could open a door/treasure chest while in escape mode in ffxii..), and the ATB was very2 fun to use(whereas in ffxii, battles didn't feel that epic, as others have said).

From the way the trailers looked, ffxiii didn't look like it was gonna follow in ffxii's footsteps, but you never know, it may still. That game was still kinda active turn-based, in a real time sort of way, haha. But above and beyond the gambit system, whihc i might be able to live with, is please let there be no constant grinding in the game. I hated how in ffxii you almost always had to grind between areas, just cause you leveled up painfully slowly. And please let there be a deep and engrossing story, not something where after grinding for 5 hours, you get 5 minutes of story....which usually was meaningless anyway. You could probably count on one hand the plot points for ffxii.

I was kinda hoping maybe the battle system would be something like grandia 3, where in between turns(ie while your turn icon was heading towards becoming available for use) you could manually control your character, so you could move, jump, roll, surround an enemy and do other interesting stuff movement wise. Then, when your icon became available for action, time would sorta stop, you could key in what action you wanted to take, and then it would be executed. So technically, you could plan to jump just before your turn, have time stop while your in mid-air, and get extra actions to execute because your in a jumping position. And so on with other movements. haha that's more of a wish though, i'm just excited to know what ffxiii will offer. I kinda don't want to know before hand, cause it will sort of spoil the surprise of it. But in this day and age we always want as much info as we can get on games..

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#71 xlRagnaroklx
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FF12 Battle system was ok but nothing can bea FF7 and 8

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#72 FFF4N4T1C
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I'm totaly old-school...i prefer the old battle system from ff7/8/9/10/10/10-2...the battle system from FFXII was really cool but...like i said, old school...honestly, i really don't f**king care about enovation in the BS, i just want a beautifull world to explore, old battle system and an AWESOME story...that's all i wish as a fan..._ChIcKeN_

Amen.

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#73 Sphire
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[QUOTE="schoony_5"]

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]X-2 was actually my favorite battle system, but thats great to hear its won't be active time, a turn based battle system is just alot more epic. FFXII always felt kind of muted as far as epic battles go, great to hear it. FFXIII will kick 455!SageJMP

I actually have to agree with you that X-2 is one of the better battle systems. I liked how fast it was, but that was about the only thing they got right with the game, back massage anyone?(that has to be themost disturbing partof any video game i've played)

X-2 was the same active time based system from FF4 to FF9. The only difference was the default option for X-2 was set on "active" instead of "wait" for when the timers expired.

But overall I'm glad they are going back to the active time based, it was overall my favorite type.

Not exacty, cause in ffx-2, your characters were sort of independent from each other. In that character A didn't have to wait for character B to execute his command before they would move. This would lead to your characters attacking almost simultaneously (giving you combos and all). And being able to delay your enemies movement was cool, if ultimately pointless(cause they'd still execute it anyway). However this made magic pretty irrelevant in the game. I'm currently playing ffix, and so wish they'd take their turns straight away, instead of waiting for each other to move first.

Then again i also think there was more to ffx-2 than most say. As with gamespot's review(which, although i never would trust scores, had one good line): at times, ffx-2 can be as poignant and charming as it's predecessor. I just chose to focus on that aspect more than complain about all the other flashy stuff.

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#74 Dragonblade01
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[QUOTE="fistoflight"]

[QUOTE="el-tope-pr"]so i read there will be no random battles(witch doesnt bother me)but it will be ACTIVE TIME BATTLE SYSTEM witch means it will be by commands like ff7,8,9,10....... i didn't like FF12 battle system, its not bad but i didn't like it.CommanderTy

FInal Fantasy 13 time/turned based. Final fantasy versus 13 realtime/ no turned based but open fighting.

So your saying Versus is going to be kinda like DMC???

that style of gameplay, yeah

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#75 el-tope-pr
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i hope wikipedia is right i wouldn't stand another FF with ff12 battle system, the only reason i bought it was because it said FINAL FANTASY on the cover.
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#76 RealDuffi
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Great. Now I actually want to buy the game :)