You guys have totally missed the point of Far Cry 2

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#1 thetruespin
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Wow, having read some of the threads on here regarding Far Cry 2, a small(ish) group of people seem to be making some very harsh comments and, more or less, saying that this game is trash. I'm not entirely sure why a few people have reacted so badly, but for those that have not yet played this amazing game, let me set this straight.

I won't bother talking about the graphics but, rest assure, they are up their with the best on the PS3 (maybe the best when all things are considered). The game runs smoothly 99.9% of the time and the screen tearing people keep going on about is very minor and no worse than that found in Uncharted - put simply, you won't really notice it.

Let me address a few criticisms:

Firstly, people have misunderstood what Far Cry 2 is about. This aint no on rails shooter with lots of scripted events triggered by reaching certain checkpoints (think COD4, HALO etc), this is a game that requires thought, planning and patience. If you go running in guns blazing - you will die. If you are looking for a casual shooter, Far Cry 2 is not for you.

The enemies are too strong:
What?? Most weapons, apart from the bog standard pistol, will finish of any enemy in a few well placed shots. The shotgun at close range is pretty much instant death.

Aiming is too hard:
Aiming is not hard, it just takes practice. Guns have, like in real life, a recoil. If you control and counter the recoil, you can shoot very accurately. Unfortunately, people have grown accustomed to games where guns hardly recoil and, when they do, it is very minor.

The AI is stupid:
Very occasionally, the enemy will do something mad. However, what these people are forgetting to mention that, for the other 99% of the time, the AI is amazing. They will chase you on foot, chase you in cars, force you off the road, scout an area, call for backup. Again, people are hyper focussing on one point.

The AI is too smart:
Yup, people also claim the AI is too good at times, seeing you from miles away. The reality is that, unlike in the world of MGS, people can see more than 10ft in real life, so if you don't want to be seen, stay out of direct sight, stay in the bushes and stay low. Hell, maybe go at night... it really aint that hard.

Missions are boring:
The missions are way better than the missions found in GTA4 - and everyone praised that game despite being 100 times more buggy and graphically inferior. The early missions are a little slow, but later on things really hot up.

Guns getting jammed:
Things like this, and the need to take malaria medication, highlight the need for careful planning. The game discourages going in guns blazing because, lets face it, in real life it would never work. No, you need to plan your weapons, plan your route, check your supplies... some people seem to hate this.. but I love it. People also moan that they die and have to start again from miles away - USE THE SAFE HOUSES! There is always once nearby, even if it requires you to kill a few guards. You can normally take half of them out before they have worked out where the gun shots are coming from.

The game is buggy as hell?
Are we even playing the same game? There are some minor glitches that you encounter once in a blue moon and, when you do, it really does not impact on you much. Again, GTA4 was more buggy by far, as was oblivion.

AT the end of the say, every one has their own tastes... but some people are putting others off buying this game, simply because they have failed to understand the point of Far Cry 2.

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#2 420Token420
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Why does everyone have to like it?

It's an opinion .. get used to it ..

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#3 thetruespin
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Why does everyone have to like it?

It's an opinion .. get used to it ..

420Token420

hence the last sentance of my post:

AT the end of the say, every one has their own tastes... but some people are putting others off buying this game, simply because they have failed to understand the point of Far Cry 2.

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#4 K1LLR3175
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Yeah there has been alot of hate on Far cry 2,From the looks of things it seems that the game is pretty good.I might have to check it out.
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#5 420Token420
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[QUOTE="420Token420"]

Why does everyone have to like it?

It's an opinion .. get used to it ..

thetruespin

hence the last sentance of my post:

AT the end of the say, every one has their own tastes... but some people are putting others off buying this game, simply because they have failed to understand the point of Far Cry 2.

I read it .. my statement stands ..

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#6 jubino
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I understand what the game is trying to achieve all too well, and that's what upsets me even more. It's supposed to be a shooter. it's supposed to be a sandbox game. Unfortunately, it doesn't do either one very well. The shooting isn't very fun and doesn't feel as good as, say, CoD4. I would venture to say that many games have actually done this portion better. I could make a huge list of games, but I simply don't have that kind of time. And as for the sandbox element, even a simple game like Saint's Row has this game beat. There's just not enough things to actually interact with from point A to point B, making trecking across the map painful at best.
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The thing is that Far Cry 2 is trying to achieve realism to its limmits but the problem is that,in nowadays world if people can like a game like Gears Of War or Crysis :lol: they will never want realism at all......Atleast its good enough for me because i like these types of game and its awesome.

It is something totally different from other FPS and people who are jumping to it from other shooters will probably think that its strange.

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#8 420Token420
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The thing is that Far Cry 2 is trying to achieve realism to its limmits but the problem is that,in nowadays world if people can like a game like Gears Of War or Crysis :lol: they will never want realism at all......Atleast its good enough for me because i like these types of game and its awesome.

It is something totally different from other FPS and people who are jumping to it from other shooters will probably think that its strange.

koko0321

Excuses .. people are allowed to not like it ..

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#9 jubino
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[QUOTE="koko0321"]

The thing is that Far Cry 2 is trying to achieve realism to its limmits but the problem is that,in nowadays world if people can like a game like Gears Of War or Crysis :lol: they will never want realism at all......Atleast its good enough for me because i like these types of game and its awesome.

It is something totally different from other FPS and people who are jumping to it from other shooters will probably think that its strange.

420Token420

Excuses .. people are allowed to not like it ..

Yeah, you guys are waaaay out of line, sayin you actually LIKE the game. Boy, I have half a mind to report you all...

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[QUOTE="420Token420"][QUOTE="koko0321"]

The thing is that Far Cry 2 is trying to achieve realism to its limmits but the problem is that,in nowadays world if people can like a game like Gears Of War or Crysis :lol: they will never want realism at all......Atleast its good enough for me because i like these types of game and its awesome.

It is something totally different from other FPS and people who are jumping to it from other shooters will probably think that its strange.

jubino

Excuses .. people are allowed to not like it ..

Yeah, you guys are waaaay out of line, sayin you actually LIKE the game. Boy, I have half a mind to report you all...

Who said you can't like it?

Just don't come on here and saying the only reason I don't like it ... is because I don't understand it ..

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#11 americahellyeah
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I'm really enjoying Far Cry 2... its exactly what i look for in a shooter.
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#12 420Token420
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I'm really enjoying Far Cry 2... its exactly what i look for in a shooter.americahellyeah

I'm glad you are .. ;)

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Guns getting jammed:
Things like this, and the need to take malaria medication, highlight the need for careful planning. The game discourages going in guns blazing because, lets face it, in real life it would never work. No, you need to plan your weapons, plan your route, check your supplies... some people seem to hate this.. but I love it. People also moan that they die and have to start again from miles away - USE THE SAFE HOUSES! There is always once nearby, even if it requires you to kill a few guards. You can normally take half of them out before they have worked out where the gun shots are coming from.

thetruespin

i think this was a cool feature in the game..to me makes it realistic

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#14 FatChuwawa
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yeh im loving far cry2 so much fun, i like it where you have to think about what you are going to do. before every mission i go to a gun shop and stock up on everything and pick the weapons i need for what mission im doing.

everyone asked for realsim these days, this is what you get. dont cry about it.

if anyone wants to share maps with me add me: fat_chuwawa

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[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]I'm really enjoying Far Cry 2... its exactly what i look for in a shooter.420Token420

I'm glad you are .. ;)

Thanks :P i actually like the longer travel times and amount of exploration.. i get tired rather quickly of all the nonstop action in games these days.
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#16 sebbi11
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="420Token420"]

Why does everyone have to like it?

It's an opinion .. get used to it ..

420Token420

hence the last sentance of my post:

AT the end of the say, every one has their own tastes... but some people are putting others off buying this game, simply because they have failed to understand the point of Far Cry 2.

I read it .. my statement stands ..

Lol, why? If you read that, why make a pointless statement confirming what he just said? Everyone knows what an opinion is, move on.

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TC that sounds awesome! If the game is anything like you described I'm sure I will love it. I'm glad I clicked on this topic cause I had already written this game off as another generic run n gun shooter.

*goes to research more*

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#18 koko0321
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[QUOTE="koko0321"]

The thing is that Far Cry 2 is trying to achieve realism to its limmits but the problem is that,in nowadays world if people can like a game like Gears Of War or Crysis :lol: they will never want realism at all......Atleast its good enough for me because i like these types of game and its awesome.

It is something totally different from other FPS and people who are jumping to it from other shooters will probably think that its strange.

420Token420

Excuses .. people are allowed to not like it ..

I would recommend you to learn reading posts carefully and understanding them :).

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Oh no here it comes....
[QUOTE="420Token420"][QUOTE="koko0321"]

The thing is that Far Cry 2 is trying to achieve realism to its limmits but the problem is that,in nowadays world if people can like a game like Gears Of War or Crysis :lol: they will never want realism at all......Atleast its good enough for me because i like these types of game and its awesome.

It is something totally different from other FPS and people who are jumping to it from other shooters will probably think that its strange.

koko0321

Excuses .. people are allowed to not like it ..

I would recommend you to learn reading posts carefully and understanding them :).

Oh no here it comes lol.....
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#20 expandingeye
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I think the people that are saying so much bad about the game are little kids that give up too easily.

When i first started playing it, i was having trouble not dying all the time. Since i bought a few new weapons and got used to the style this game rocks. The enemies are just smart and challenging enough to make it intense. Very excellent game so far.

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#21 thetruespin
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TC that sounds awesome! If the game is anything like you described I'm sure I will love it. I'm glad I clicked on this topic cause I had already written this game off as another generic run n gun shooter.

*goes to research more*

treelog82

which is why i posted this.. because people are being heavily influanced by a small group of people that totally missed the point of farcry 2. i'm not saying they have bad taste, but they were expecting a totally different game and, when they didnt get it, they started posting nonsense.

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#22 TJSAGE
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I agree, Most people dont realize what this game is doing with load times and how well it is running both off an online!!!

i saw that 1 bad thread and I could not believe how many people here agreed???

This game is bad a$$ and fun. Im sure most people who got it alredy put in 6 plus hours and are maybe at 10%

But it needs perks online, would have been sick

need a patch to fix the boot after each map online which Im sure isnt hard, But im sure we will see alot in the ps store for this game, maps, content ect

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#23 KapG
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Token, most everytime I see a comment of yours it seems like you are trolling.

All you have to say are like 5 word sentences like. "they can do what they want", "its their opinion" blah blah blah blah, it gets tiresome. All the OP was trying to do WAS POINT OUT THAT A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS PEOPLE HAVE FOR THIS GAME ARE ILLIGITE. He never said YOU HAVE TO LIKE THIS GAME.

Grow up

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any spoilers before i read?
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#25 420Token420
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[QUOTE="420Token420"][QUOTE="koko0321"]

The thing is that Far Cry 2 is trying to achieve realism to its limmits but the problem is that,in nowadays world if people can like a game like Gears Of War or Crysis :lol: they will never want realism at all......Atleast its good enough for me because i like these types of game and its awesome.

It is something totally different from other FPS and people who are jumping to it from other shooters will probably think that its strange.

koko0321

Excuses .. people are allowed to not like it ..

I would recommend you to learn reading posts carefully and understanding them :).

No no .. you are not understanding what I am getting at with my posts .. you are the confused one ..

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#26 420Token420
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Token, most everytime I see a comment of yours it seems like you are trolling.

All you have to say are like 5 word sentences like. "they can do what they want", "its their opinion" blah blah blah blah, it gets tiresome. All the OP was trying to do WAS POINT OUT THAT A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS PEOPLE HAVE FOR THIS GAME ARE ILLIGITE. He never said YOU HAVE TO LIKE THIS GAME.

Grow up

KapG

:lol:

He stated at the bottom that people (me) don't like it because we don't understand it .. it's ludacrous ..

Regardless of his opinion .. I also have one .. and like him, I can express it any way I want ..

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#27 420Token420
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[QUOTE="420Token420"]

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]I'm really enjoying Far Cry 2... its exactly what i look for in a shooter.americahellyeah

I'm glad you are .. ;)

Thanks :P i actually like the longer travel times and amount of exploration.. i get tired rather quickly of all the nonstop action in games these days.

Yeah for some reason Far Cry 2 doesn't really do it for me .. waiting for Fallout 3 ..

Maybe I'll give it another go afterwards .. :P

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#28 KapG
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[QUOTE="KapG"]

Token, most everytime I see a comment of yours it seems like you are trolling.

All you have to say are like 5 word sentences like. "they can do what they want", "its their opinion" blah blah blah blah, it gets tiresome. All the OP was trying to do WAS POINT OUT THAT A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS PEOPLE HAVE FOR THIS GAME ARE ILLIGITE. He never said YOU HAVE TO LIKE THIS GAME.

Grow up

420Token420

:lol:

He stated at the bottom that people (me) don't like it because we don't understand it .. it's ludacrous ..

Regardless of his opinion .. I also have one .. and like him, I can express it any way I want ..

Fair enough. I didn't notice the OP specifically single you out or anything, I thought he was just "being general" about the people who haev been complaining. Oh well, looks like we agree to disagree about far cry 2. I think we can both agree that Fallout 3 looks pretty sweeeeeet! Can't wait to pick up a copy on the 28th :P./

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#29 420Token420
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[QUOTE="420Token420"][QUOTE="KapG"]

Token, most everytime I see a comment of yours it seems like you are trolling.

All you have to say are like 5 word sentences like. "they can do what they want", "its their opinion" blah blah blah blah, it gets tiresome. All the OP was trying to do WAS POINT OUT THAT A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS PEOPLE HAVE FOR THIS GAME ARE ILLIGITE. He never said YOU HAVE TO LIKE THIS GAME.

Grow up

KapG

:lol:

He stated at the bottom that people (me) don't like it because we don't understand it .. it's ludacrous ..

Regardless of his opinion .. I also have one .. and like him, I can express it any way I want ..

Fair enough. I didn't notice the OP specifically single you out or anything, I thought he was just "being general" about the people who haev been complaining. Oh well, looks like we agree to disagree about far cry 2. I think we can both agree that Fallout 3 looks pretty sweeeeeet! Can't wait to pick up a copy on the 28th :P./

No he didn't single me out .. but even still, I feel like he was saying it to me .. I just don't like to hear or see people telling me I don't like something because I don't understand it .. that is all .. :)

Oh yea Fallout 3 looks great .. I hope it is to .. can't wait for Thursday .. :D .. I know it comes out Tuesday but I gotta wait ..

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i agree with everything with everything the tc had to say, the shooting is not bad, at all, its just more realistic and just because sometimes on occasion you cant put down an enemy with three shots isnt a big deal, heck all i do now is put em down with head shots and it works fine. but any ways, i used to not like the game as much as i did, but now i think its awesome, even the multiplayer
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#31 CONMAN999PS
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FarCry is great. It is quite possibly the best shooter fo the year. It's a great game, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I do agree with most everything the OP says.
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#32 anime_gamer007
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Yea I have no clue what people are talking about. This game is easily the most addictive shooter I've ever played. I mean you can do a mission exactly how you to: you want to go in there stealthy during night,you can, you want to go in there Rambo and shoot everything up, you can, you want to scout out the area and do some sniping, you can. You play the game EXACTLY how you want to play.
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#33 kenshinhimura10
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From what Ive read its similar to STALKER. Is that possible? If so, I may get it.
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[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="420Token420"]

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]I'm really enjoying Far Cry 2... its exactly what i look for in a shooter.420Token420

I'm glad you are .. ;)

Thanks :P i actually like the longer travel times and amount of exploration.. i get tired rather quickly of all the nonstop action in games these days.

Yeah for some reason Far Cry 2 doesn't really do it for me .. waiting for Fallout 3 ..

Maybe I'll give it another go afterwards .. :P

Actually i do that alot. where i don't really care for a game then i'll go play something else for a couple weeks and when i come back the game i initially didn't like its grown on my.. like R2.. i'm actually kinda enjoying now.
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#35 Devourment423
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Game is awesome. For someone who wants a mindless shooter they are probably going to be put off by this.
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#36 Ninten007
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I love Far Cry 2 when I got used to the gaming mechanics. It is a hard game to learn how to play but patience and time it will pay off.

Not to mention getting diamonds will help you to get better weapons that drop enemies faster.

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I understand what the game is trying to achieve all too well, and that's what upsets me even more. It's supposed to be a shooter. it's supposed to be a sandbox game. Unfortunately, it doesn't do either one very well. The shooting isn't very fun and doesn't feel as good as, say, CoD4. I would venture to say that many games have actually done this portion better. I could make a huge list of games, but I simply don't have that kind of time. And as for the sandbox element, even a simple game like Saint's Row has this game beat. There's just not enough things to actually interact with from point A to point B, making trecking across the map painful at best.jubino

WHAT?!?!?!? Its an open world shooter, not a GTA fps!!!

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#38 chad_giac
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yo i know what you mean man

this is my favorite game by far. when i hear some of the criticisms people have im also like

WTF what game have you been playoing?

hit me up with ur psn man well play some multiplayer

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#39 Scianix-Black
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Grand Theft Auto IV was buggy?

Please provide an example of some sort, because I don't see that.

There was a huge hiccup at release, yeah, but they patched it up and it's still one of the better games this generation.