Your thoughts on MVC3 having 34 characters, not 56+

As awesome as Marvel vs Capcom 3 is going to be. I can't help but feel like I'm being ripped off (or setting myself up for that).

Last time, they gave us fans 56 playable characters.
This time: 34.

That means the roster in MVC3 is only 60% of what MVC2 was.

So hmmm; gee boss, where's the other 22? My guess is that Capcom has decided we can all pay extra for that later. And judging by the prices they demand for their DLC, it's going to be a VERY bumpy ride.

I'm not a fan of what Capcom has become. They've lost their way big time.
Their idea of evolving gaming isn't about building games that out-do their predecessors. No, they've been spending all their creative energy on figuring out ways to suck your wallet dry. Capcom hasn't approached this gen with any kind of honor or goodwill towards the fans of their franchises.

Would it be alright if the next Gran Turismo had 40% LESS cars? Or if the next COD had 40% less weapons?
How about paying for skins for these games? I didn't think so.

So what are your thoughts on this, and on Capcom this gen as a whole?

This is only showing your ignorance. MVC2 had a big roster because they used all the previous sprites from the other vs games. This time all the characters are built from the ground up. bobaban

Alright, so by that way of thinking it would have been alright for GT5 to have 40% less cars than GT4.
Lame excuse.

i agree with you about capcom and this game completely. its a fighting game. theres not much to it. so add as many characters as you can fit onto the disk and appease the die-hards and newbz alike. as for their approach to other games this gen, i feel theyve half-assed it. dmc4 was great the 1st half. then the 2nd half youre going back through the same levels fighting the same bosses!? then re5. STILL cant walk when your pistol is drawn!? lame. i know these are minor gripes to some. but cmon, with the money and staff they have these gripes (small as they may ne) shouldnt even exist. oh how the mighty have fallen.

This is only showing your ignorance. MVC2 had a big roster because they used all the previous sprites from the other vs games. This time all the characters are built from the ground up. bobaban

I really doubt that the graphics of MvC3 are 99% the same as Tatsanoko Vs Capcom just in HD quality the whole "New graphics engine" statement by capcom seems like a load of crap.

Let the game speak for itself. You haven't played it and have no idea how they're putting the roster to use and what other modes and goodies they packed in the stead of a massive character roster.

i won't be getting mvc3 for the exact reasons the TS has stated, im tired of getting ripped off by them.

[QUOTE="bobaban"]This is only showing your ignorance. MVC2 had a big roster because they used all the previous sprites from the other vs games. This time all the characters are built from the ground up. Conjuration

Alright, so by that way of thinking it would have been alright for GT5 to have 40% less cars than GT4.
Lame excuse.

all i need is

Dante
Ammy
Jill
Weasker
Spiderman
Trish
X-23
andim good to go

why is there no cyclops, gambit and servebot is the real question?

[QUOTE="bobaban"]This is only showing your ignorance. MVC2 had a big roster because they used all the previous sprites from the other vs games. This time all the characters are built from the ground up. Conjuration

Alright, so by that way of thinking it would have been alright for GT5 to have 40% less cars than GT4.
Lame excuse.

This is a fighting game - a completely different genre, Seth himself said 50% of the development time was going into balancing. MVC2 had no balance at all, so most resorted to tier whoring. There will be AT LEAST 36, not 34, characters. Plus 2 DLC. I think most were expecting 40+ in the main game, but it won't matter much in the end cause most of you are scrubs that will quit in a month.

Would you guys be happier if you got your 56+ but it looked and played exactly like MVC2? I'm more than pleased with the 34 announced thus far.

I'd be cool with it, IF they actually had DECENT characters.. BUT NOOOOOOO Lets have mediocre and crappy characters instead of people that kick ass.

I would be perfectly okay with less then 34 characters but the roster is terrible and missing out on so many good names and has a bunch of pointless stupid characters no one is going ot play. 56 was way to many characters caused so many balance issues and i never knew who i wanted to play as but at least they had almost everyone i could want to play as

I would be perfectly okay with less then 34 characters but the roster is terrible and missing out on so many good names and has a bunch of pointless stupid characters no one is going ot play. 56 was way to many characters caused so many balance issues and i never knew who i wanted to play as but at least they had almost everyone i could want to play as

BoxingTheStars

Thankyou for a beutiful post.

There's going to more incoming, just in the form of DLCs. If you take a look at the PSN store Capcom has put up an awful lot of stuff up there...for a price. Other companies may have introduced the idea of DLCs, but Capcom has truly embraced it and have been nickel-and-diming us on everything this gen.

There's going to more incoming, just in the form of DLCs. If you take a look at the PSN store Capcom has put up an awful lot of stuff up there...for a price. Other companies may have introduced the idea of DLCs, but Capcom has truly embraced it and have been nickel-and-diming us on everything this gen.

Gxgear

That's complete BS. You shouldn't have to pay for characters that should be included in the game. If theyre going to do that they should put the popular characters in first, rather then put crappy characters nobody cares about then releasing people like Venom.. or Carnage.. later on, if at all.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

There's going to more incoming, just in the form of DLCs. If you take a look at the PSN store Capcom has put up an awful lot of stuff up there...for a price. Other companies may have introduced the idea of DLCs, but Capcom has truly embraced it and have been nickel-and-diming us on everything this gen.

greivous549

That's complete BS. You shouldn't have to pay for characters that should be included in the game. If theyre going to do that they should put the popular characters in first, rather then put crappy characters nobody cares about then releasing people like Venom.. or Carnage.. later on, if at all.

Has it ever ocurred to you that not everyone likes the same characters you like?

[QUOTE="greivous549"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

There's going to more incoming, just in the form of DLCs. If you take a look at the PSN store Capcom has put up an awful lot of stuff up there...for a price. Other companies may have introduced the idea of DLCs, but Capcom has truly embraced it and have been nickel-and-diming us on everything this gen.

Zidaneski

That's complete BS. You shouldn't have to pay for characters that should be included in the game. If theyre going to do that they should put the popular characters in first, rather then put crappy characters nobody cares about then releasing people like Venom.. or Carnage.. later on, if at all.

Has it ever ocurred to you that not everyone likes the same characters you like?

yeah but im pretty sure everyone would rather have Venom in the game then She-Hulk

Well, I can see the difference between recycled sprites and the recently made models. Just like FightingFan said, it's TvC in HD. You can tell by the characters alone.

But, MvC2 had 55 characters. Having Wolverine "twice" with a different moveset was just flat out dumb (and doesn't count). So all things considering, 34 isn't really all that bad. But I do agree with you (and infact, voice it myself) about the Capcom DLC abuse. There could be the possibility that Capcom will "release DLC characters" upon release date. Given Jill and Shomagrath are some "DLC bonus" (why couldn't they just have them apart of the roster?) due to pre-ordering, expect more to come.

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[QUOTE="greivous549"]

That's complete BS. You shouldn't have to pay for characters that should be included in the game. If theyre going to do that they should put the popular characters in first, rather then put crappy characters nobody cares about then releasing people like Venom.. or Carnage.. later on, if at all.

BoxingTheStars

Has it ever ocurred to you that not everyone likes the same characters you like?

yeah but im pretty sure everyone would rather have Venom in the game then She-Hulk

As would I. If you don't like the roster just don't buy the game. Simply as that. The reason why extra characters get added on is because people eat their words and fork over the dough for the characters anyways and thus developers continue to do it.

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[QUOTE="bobaban"]This is only showing your ignorance. MVC2 had a big roster because they used all the previous sprites from the other vs games. This time all the characters are built from the ground up. bobaban

Alright, so by that way of thinking it would have been alright for GT5 to have 40% less cars than GT4.
Lame excuse.

This is a fighting game - a completely different genre, Seth himself said 50% of the development time was going into balancing. MVC2 had no balance at all, so most resorted to tier whoring. There will be AT LEAST 36, not 34, characters. Plus 2 DLC. I think most were expecting 40+ in the main game, but it won't matter much in the end cause most of you are scrubs that will quit in a month.

Genre has absolutely nothing to do with this. You're swinging in the dark here. You work for Capcom or something?
A quality gaming experience is a quality gaming experience no matter the genre. It's irrelevant.
You're making excuses for Capcom rushing this out the door...I don't get it. Why do you think this game is coming out so fast, and in February?
Their financial year end is in April, and they had a fail 2010. They need this out NOW before investors start hollaring at them.

You said MVC2 had no balance "at all." Then you call the MVC2 people here scrubs. If you think MVC2 had no balance "at all" that's a pretty scrubtastic comment.

Its a load of crap. Its just a way for them to make more money by using DLC. They can make more chacters, look at Jill and that green dude. They just want money for DLC. They arent stupid, they think we are and will fall into there trap

Its a load of crap. Its just a way for them to make more money by using DLC. They can make more chacters, look at Jill and that green dude. They just want money for DLC. They arent stupid, they think we are and will fall into there trap

Brawler-Dude

I'm sure more will come through DLC.

I'm sure more will come through DLC.

supa_badman

Oh there will be, but that why capcom doing that. Do get more $$$ in there wallet. I'm sorry, I want the game, and more characters but I'm not willing to pay $5 just for one person that I may not even use if I don't like there fighting style. What they should do is let you try out the character for one battle see if you like them or not.

[QUOTE="supa_badman"]

I'm sure more will come through DLC.

Brawler-Dude

Oh there will be, but that why capcom doing that. Do get more $$$ in there wallet. I'm sorry, I want the game, and more characters but I'm not willing to pay $5 just for one person that I may not even use if I don't like there fighting style. What they should do is let you try out the character for one battle see if you like them or not.

I'm glad.. more characters = less balance.. BlazBlue only had what, 12 chars!? and it was amazing.PoisoN_Facecam0

exactly BlazBlue= greatest fighter ever

Amount of characters doesnt have everything to do with it either. SFIV was as unbalanced a game as there coul be but Super SF IV was very balanced compared to SFIV. Blazblue is just an incredible game mae by a company that put alot of attention to detail and the fighting system. BlazBlue is as deep a fighting game as there is out there right now but friendly enough that a person who has never played can pick up the controler and do decent at the game. The learning curve was that bad to become ok but it takes alot of time to become great and really get the deeper partsof the fighting system. MVC3 to me looks like it was be a good game. IF capcom can balance 36 character that is impressive. For me seeing Haggar announced is worth the price of the game. It is long overdue forhim to be part of a fighting game. As far as Venom goes he isn't one of my favorite characters and I would much rather see She-Hulk.

As far as Venom goes he isn't one of my favorite characters and I would much rather see She-Hulk.

savagehulk

Blasphemy! you don't have to like venom but seriously it's She-Hulk...

This is only showing your ignorance. MVC2 had a big roster because they used all the previous sprites from the other vs games. This time all the characters are built from the ground up. bobaban

This and most of the characters ended up being quite useless and the top tier characters were quite broken. Imo they shaved off useless fat from the MVC series and from what i understand every single character is useful in their own way in MVC3.

No doubt there will be more added as DLC and there is already day one DLC but you cant say your being ripped off. 34 characters is already way more than what many fighters have. Look at BB or vanilla SF4.

Yeah I was pretty pissed off, but it will be amazing nonetheless

Im noticing that people are angry that the most popular characters arent there. Imo that's a good thing i like that they are shining a spotlight on the not so know characters in both universes. The popular characters get enough attention as is. If you want akuma go play street fighter or if you want venom go play some spider man games. My point is let some other characters shine you might actually grow to like them.

More characters usually means less balance and that not every character will be comepletely different. I would rather have 11 characters that are completely unique from one another than have 60 characters that are marginally different from each other. We don't want this game to be like DBZ budokai tenkaichi. Sure you might get the character you want outfit wise, but he or she may just be a clone of someone else.

is Venom going to appear in MvC3?risako9

He's not on the main roster. Probably be sold later as DLC. But some people are saying they might still announce more characters, so who knows.
For example Akuma hasn't been announced, but there has been some supposedly leaked screen shots with Akuma in them. So maybe the roster isn't final yet?
Unless those pics turn out to be proof that Capcom cut the roster to gouge their customers.

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[QUOTE="greivous549"]

That's complete BS. You shouldn't have to pay for characters that should be included in the game. If theyre going to do that they should put the popular characters in first, rather then put crappy characters nobody cares about then releasing people like Venom.. or Carnage.. later on, if at all.

BoxingTheStars

Has it ever ocurred to you that not everyone likes the same characters you like?

yeah but im pretty sure everyone would rather have Venom in the game then She-Hulk

I think I died a little inside, I hadn't been following the character roster that closely. Capcom isn't doing well financially, and we all know they'll bundle new characters in DLCs, which is completely unacceptable, but She-Hulk? Really? The Hulk is the most craptastic Marvel character as it is.

Don't worry, your full roster is coming in 3-4 months later, via DLC or if they're bold enough like Street Fighter IV with completely new game trying to justify more money revenue.

That's appears to be new 'shiny' way to make money this days, who am I to talk however - I purchased all Dragon Age DLC anyway...

34 characters is probably enough. Anyone will really only use 5 or 6 different characters seriously anyways.

is Venom going to appear in MvC3?risako9