Changing the voting age.

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#52  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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@bigfootpart2 said:
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I'm not afraid of the youth.

The youth hates the far left. Gen Z is the next wave of conservationism and centrism. Just give it 5 years.

Dream on. The kids at Parkland are a glimpse of the future. And it's the furthest thing possible from conservative. 4chan trolls, red pill, and alt right idiots on youtube are not representative of "the youth." These are the dejected losers of their generation. LOL if you really think young people are going to join the party of bible thumping homophobic rich old white guys.

They're the end of the branch of millennials.

Gen Z conservatism isn't going to be the same as the one we have one.

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#53 mrbojangles25
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@mrbojangles25: conservatives want everyone to stay home because voting isn't cool then they want everyone to riot the results

Fixed it for you.

When was the last time you saw a Republican, specifically a conservative, campaigning to get the young vote, encouraging people of color to vote, and asking to abolish gerrymandering?

If these people wanted us to vote, and vote fairly, they'd act like it. Then when people get pissed, they're like "Derrr why you guys so pissed?!" like nothing is wrong.

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#54 vl4d_l3nin
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@Gaming-Planet said:

I'm not afraid of the youth.

The youth hates the far left. Gen Z is the next wave of conservationism and centrism. Just give it 5 years.

Gen Z white kids, definitely, but they will eventually be a minority of their generation. Aside from Asian and Indian males, POC youth are slamming leftist Kool-Aid like it's last call. HHF did a mock election with Gen Z. Here were the results.

They also did a more in depth study, with 50,000 Gen-Zers as opposed to a few hundred

http://hispanicheritage.org/50000-generation-z-high-school-students-identify-republican/

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#55 SUD123456
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Americans and their insane obsession with party politics. Who cares what labels you use? There will always be at least two opposing political forces in any democracy and they will argue ad infinitum about largely meaningless distinctions as if they are earthshattering differences.

In terms of what gov'ts actually get done they are at least 80% indistinguishable, which is a function of the complexity of gov't and society.

Meanwhile, surprise, surprise, but liberal democratic countries keep getting more liberal over time. My goodness, women get to vote. Minorities get to vote. Next thing you know gay people might get marriage rights. What will they think of next?

Conservatism is not an absolute and has never been. It simply refers to the overall pace of change. The same for the other side of the fence.

At any moment in time over the past several hundred years people have argued over the cause celebre of the day, as if the issue was of mortal importance to this or that political group/view and omg society will be ruined by either changing or failing to change. In retrospect we always change and the changes are always in the direction of becoming more liberal over time.

The only issue is how fast. This trajectory is unalterable, short of cataclysmic defeat of our core values which is only going to occur by military defeat, alien invasion, total economic collapse, zombie apocalypse, rise of the machines, or massive environmental catastrophe.

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#56 lamprey263
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No need, they just target minorities in making it more difficult to vote and removing them from voting roles. And now they got Russia hacking our election systems behind them. Conservative secretaries of state are engineering ease of voting to make red areas easy to show up and vote and blue areas an all day waiting affair to stand in line to vote.

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#57 plageus900
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@bigfootpart2 said:
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They're just postponing the inevitable. The Republican Party is dying off. Literally. Their voter base is getting old, dying, and not being replaced by younger voters.

It's common knowledge that people get more conservative as they get older. Quit being dumb.

That's not how it works at all. What those older people believe usually used to be considered progressive. It's not that the people became more conservative as they got older. It's that the world around them got more liberal.

Millenials and Gen X'ers were overwhelmingly not Republican. They don't share Republican ideals or values. They aren't going to suddenly become Bible thumbing bigoted Republicans just because they get old. That's moronic.

The Democratic Party will probably become the more conservative party. The Republican Party will be phased out. A new progressive party will emerge. Maybe the Green Party.

You'll see in November. Trump isn't a sign of things to come. He's the last fart in the wind of a dying party and the greedy out of touch baby boomer generation.

They don't become more socially conservative. As people age, they usually accumulate more wealth or attain higher paying jobs. Its at this point they start caring more about their paycheck and how much of its going to taxes, etc. They start voting for politicians who they think will keep more money in their pocket.

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SHeriff David Clarke, who was headed to an appointment in trumps cabinet until it was found out he plagiarized his college thesis said today that we should raise the voting age to 21

https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/969028303926460416

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#59 Baconstrip78
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@mighty-lu-bu: WOW...does anyone actually read your BS? Lol why would you go on and on like that on a message board? Loser.

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@Baconstrip78 said:

@mighty-lu-bu: WOW...does anyone actually read your BS? Lol why would you go on and on like that on a message board? Loser.

What are you actually disputing because it doesn't appear that you have a point. Sorry that you get offended by my posts, but I use facts and facts don't care about your feelings.

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#61 Baconstrip78
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@mighty-lu-bu: I actually have no idea what I’m disputing because only a deranged idiot would read or write a post that long.

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#62  Edited By deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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So far there has been zero talk of raising the voting age to 21. I have heard some chatter about raising the age to legally purchase a gun to 21, which makes sense to me. Thoughts, OP?

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#63 Jacanuk
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@sonicare said:

So far there has been zero talk of raising the voting age to 21. I have heard some chatter about raising the age to legally purchase a gun to 21, which makes sense to me. Thoughts, OP?

Well, it does make sense that no one with a bit of common sense would talk about raising the age since they knew it would require an actual constitutional change.