Do you think those that protest the flag should be tried for treason?

Send them to Guantanamo.

How come the "yes" answer is not "Yes, im as anti-first amendment and constitution as it gets"?

You did put "no, they are just confused", which is silly. At least the anti-first amendment thing is accurate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson

There is a difference between the first amendment and encouraging the hating of america through stupidity.

There's actually not. Even if you want to say this is what this is, its still a first amendment right.

Of course you kind of have to be fairly stupid to think that is whats being said here.

Conservatives like the OP are all about free speech when it allows them to be dicks to minorities and get away with it. But they hate it when anyone talks back to them, like people who protest the flag or football players protesting at the start of games. The truth is that they don't really believe in free speech. They just love that it protects them when they're being bigoted.

This is the classic situation they get themselves in and ironically the thing they are complaining about "the left" doing recently.

They have this idea that its freedoms for me, not for you because as he has demonstrated, he does not understand what these rights allow for.

How quaint. Somebody disagrees with you so they're a racist and a bigot. You wonder why Trump got elected and the republicans won pretty much everything. America is sick of people claiming racism instead of taking responsibility for their actions.

They are the same who talk about maximizing freedom by gutting vital social services all the while supporting restricting rights on free speech.

Somebody disagrees with you and apparently they should be tried for treason (which generally carries life in prison or the death penalty).

You've just proven you don't understand free speech or The First Amendment. Also your values are not American. They're fascist.

Not really as great as one tries to claim america is it won't change the blood stained foundation of this country. And as old as it is it's still resisting change and improvement. There's not much to be loyal to just yet unless its your family.

I for one think they are trying to turn other citizens against America. There should be consequences.

This is beyond the pale @n64dd. Even for you. Colin Kaepernick clearly stated he was protesting the injustices against people of color in USA. He is in no way trying to turn other citizens against America.

Matter of fact he modifies his protest from sitting to kneeling out of respect for the country.

Even the most bullheaded must see the necessity of allowing peaceful protest in a free country. Would you prefer the alternative? Taking up arms and violently rebelling?

No, you're a racist and bigot because youve made these arguments before favoring business tactics, as long as its against something you dislike. But when it comes to something you're against, you don't keep the same narrative. In both of these instances its you being against equality for others not like you, which is very telling. Maybe youre not a bigot or racist, but you sure like support racist and bigoted ideas and will go to the extent of arguing them.

As bad as N64DD is he’s still more coherent and intelligent than Jacanuk. Truly something to think about.

Ive noticed the difference is when they are backed into a corner and the topic reaches the point where they need to admit being wrong to some degree, DD will just ditch the topic. But Jacanuk will refuse to admit being wrong on anything and just keep side stepping or creating new, false arguments.

Another troll topic on this forum.... hooray...

First off, no.

Second your hated football players were protesting the way America treats minorities and then started protesting our very stupid president. They never "protested the flag" as you refuse to acknowledge.

How can anyone from a civilized nation defend that a citizen should be accused of treason for such reason. How silly... but also concerning seeing such nationalist fundamentalism on a so called 1st world nation.

They aren't trying to get people to hate America, they want justice for African Americans being killed by police wrongfully. They are protesting the fact that a white man can be shooting at police and be shot with bean bags, but an African American selling cigarettes is choked to death with an illegal choke hold. I will never stand for the anthem as long as these racial injustices are happening.

Link

http://www.complex.com/life/2016/08/white-man-california-shoots-at-cops-gets-shot-beanbags-arrested

The nationalists need to understand what this protest is about.

These poll options are a joke btw. Confused for wanting justice? Yeah, okay

It's because N64DD doesn't actually believe the stuff he says lol he's just doing it for a reaction. Jacanuk meanwhile believes with conviction everything he says.

I think DD does believe the things he says. but i think he got tired of having to defend his nonsense from people who are willing to cite and source information and facts.

This is something we see with a lot of "trolls" actually. They claim to be trolling, but the reality is their stances are the same as their trolls, they simply do it in this manner to avoid responsibility.

Aren't you a fan of the second amendment because it provides access to weapons for attacking governments you disagree with?

Woah woah woah buddy.... you're asking for a consistency in reasoning and belief.... that's a bit too much for DD and those like him.

Lol. Troll64dd strikes again with another idiotic thread. Isn't this place moderated?

LOL n64 the troll is so triggered that he doesn't understand why people are protesting

The fact that we allow people to insult and deface the flag without any legal penalty is what makes us better than other countries that require their citizens to show patriotism by law. Legislative patriotism is not real patriotism.

Of course, those people who intentionally insult and deface the flag are only protected from being punished by the government. A private employer can still fire them because being unpatriotic isn't a protected class like gender, religion, etc.

.......Really?

Nah we can't do shit like that. Free speech is part of what makes America great. Another thing that makes it great is not giving a **** what people think. Nobody is going to convince American citizens to hate anything - they don't have time for that shit. Who cares? Really why care about this?

Just think of how many dumb protests go on that you don't even hear about.

I disagree bro. Jacanuk will be serious at first and then regress into troll mode when he realizes all his points are shot. N64 makes zero sense and is completely warped in his views and is brainwashed by the media he consumes, jacanuk is just a blowhard with little information; but swears he knows everything. Both fail miseably

Also there is plenty of evidence to prove that n64 isn't even American......

Only if you aren't a righwing shit head. Anyone with a brain is getting suspended because right wing snowflakes get triggered and hit that flag button like they are voting for trump.

No but I do think entitled billionaires that weasel out of serving should be............trump that.

Why is it that many of those who support Trump and proclaim to love this country continually advocate actions contrary to its fundamentals? Trump's base almost seems to demonstrate as much of a misunderstanding of what makes America great as Trump does.....almost.

Although I suspect DD is sitting back chuckling at those he's riled up for I have trouble believing any real American can even humor such a thought who doesn't desire to live in fascism, of which hyper-nationalism is a tenet.

i think we all know why...

Man, you guys are literally baited every single time.

Go home @n64dd, you're drunk

I sincerely hope those who voted yes, were just doing it for shits and giggles.

Pretty much this. N64DD does his threads for clicks n giggles.

I sometimes wonder why TC hasn't been banned yet. For the topic, I'm going with this:

N64DD providing another public service :D If not for him, I suspect a lot of people in this forum would have no one to vent their frustrations at :p

What a hero!

He divided this country in half.

Hell no, protesting by desecrating/disrespecting symbols other people hold dear is as American as apple pie.

They should be tried and found guilty by a jury of peers of alt-right nazis, wrapped in the flag made in China, dipped in napalm produced by DuPont, placed on a pyre of fiberboard wood imported from Canada and mounted to a steel beam made in South Korea, and ignited by a lighter from Pakistan!

Burn those unpatriotic bastards! BURN! We don't need no water!

Not even imported French water?

i think n64 needs to be crowned GS's official anthem troll

USA was divided long before Kaepernick decided to protest.

No , those protesting the flag or anything else should not be charged with anything.

We have free speech which means free speech for everyone not just the ones we agree with.

Freedom of speech is only a freedom until it infringes upon other freedoms. It's putting American police officers in danger.

No it's not. Stop the hyperbole.

I have my opinion. You have yours.