Have leftists working for Bioware purposely made sure there are no sexy & attractive women in Anthem?

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#101  Edited By TryIt
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@Damedius said:

I think the bigger problem is there willingness to destroy their stories to be politically correct. ...

again..the problem is, in order for it to be 'political correct' someone has to be against it.

its not 'politically correct' to say 'money is a good thing to have'

that is something everyone agrees on, so its not political. so its not a question of 'politically correct'. politically correct DEMANDS there be a counter position.

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#102  Edited By TryIt
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@tryit said:1. you still havent answered my question

using BF V as an example please point to exactly what was said where that leads you to know it was not a creative choice. I am asking you to provide me evidence of how you know it was not a creative choice

It was a creative choice. When people come up with ideas for a game, it involves creativity.

What's your point? Do you want to claim that I'm inventing rules to hamper creativity? I'm not. Battlefield was always known for historical accuracy, when they deviate from that they face backlash. I gave you ideas of how Dice can be inclusive of women and not face backlash, but you don't acknowledge that. All they had to do was just add women to the game that actually fought in world war 2. If Dice wants to make a sci-fi battlefield where women have mechanical arms, that's fine, just tell the customers that before you release the trailer, lol. Prepare them for the big changes. I would be very open to a sci-fi or fantasy battlefield of some kind.

@tryit said:1. you still havent answered my question

using BF V as an example please point to exactly what was said where that leads you to know it was not a creative choice. I am asking you to provide me evidence of how you know it was not a creative choice

here is the thing, in order for this to even be a poltical topic there MUST be a counter to the position in question.

If I say 'Money is a nice thing to have' and everyone agrees with that, I am not a SJW for saying it. So saying something that nobody disagrees with is NOT being a SWJ.

so for this to work SOMEONE has to be against inclusion, I am asking you to tell me who that is. or are you just against speech?

you are NOT answering any of my three questions, I expect you to answer them directly, not answer something else I never asked you in the first palce

EA & Dice subscribe to the SJW ideology which is a far left & center left political position. It's not meritocratic. It's ideology states that women & minorities are less than white men, therefore women & minorities need special privileges, kind of like a special bus at school. It's ridiculous. Your SJW ideology is racist as hell because you ignore Martin Luther Kings teachings of don't judge by skin color, but by content of character. Women & Minorities don't need special privileges via diversity quotas, inclusion, representation and all that other bullshit. Still, because I embrace viewpoint diversity, I'm trying to meet you guys half way and make some kind of sense over your radical, irrational views. I've tried for three years to understand your irrational ideals, but it's just so regressive and bad that I can't.

my point is a 'creative choice' of which you originally said it was NOT....is not politics.

so it can be 'politically correct' it cant be SWJ if its not political!

how can it be an 'idology' is nobody is against it?

is 'money is a nice thing to have' a political position if everyone agrees with it?

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#103  Edited By luzarius
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@tryit said:
@luzarius said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:

If a developer wants to make a game with slutty women in it or any objectionable content they are free to do so. This just seems like consumer demographics are changing and that scantily clad women aren't selling to a newer generation and evolving market.

Given the popularity of sexy skyrim mods, I would say scantily clad women are in VERY high demand, yet the game industry won't acknowledge this. The game industry also doesn't acknowledge the popularity of gaming and rule 34.

if you have a problem with their business choices to try and meet demand that is fine...its not a political question

If you check the twitter of most of these game devs, you can clearly see that most of them share the far leftist SJW ideology. Their politics are influencing their product and IMO in a negative way.

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if you have a problem with their business choices to try and meet demand that is fine...its not a political question

this topic of female leads or sexy females is not a political position because nobody is saying they are against it, thus its not a question of poltics

The inclusion & diversity rhetoric comes from leftist universities, it is a political position.

You'll never see a leftist say "hire the best person, cast the most talented actor, hire the best writer", instead you get "hire people of race X, hire more women". Leftists have been taught to make decisions based upon peoples race and sex. It's a very racist way of thinking, because instead of treating everyone as equals, you instead give out special privileges which implies you think minorities & women are less than straight white men. You caused a huge divide in this country with your racist identity politics and hurt national unity. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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#104  Edited By TryIt
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@luzarius said:
@tryit said:
@luzarius said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:

If a developer wants to make a game with slutty women in it or any objectionable content they are free to do so. This just seems like consumer demographics are changing and that scantily clad women aren't selling to a newer generation and evolving market.

Given the popularity of sexy skyrim mods, I would say scantily clad women are in VERY high demand, yet the game industry won't acknowledge this. The game industry also doesn't acknowledge the popularity of gaming and rule 34.

if you have a problem with their business choices to try and meet demand that is fine...its not a political question

If you check the twitter of most of these game devs, you can clearly see that most of them share the far leftist SJW ideology...

again..what 'ideology' specifically. give me an example of the ideology you speak of.

I am asking you..who is against inclusion? it cant be political if nobody is against it.

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@luzarius said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:

If a developer wants to make a game with slutty women in it or any objectionable content they are free to do so. This just seems like consumer demographics are changing and that scantily clad women aren't selling to a newer generation and evolving market.

Given the popularity of sexy skyrim mods, I would say scantily clad women are in VERY high demand, yet the game industry won't acknowledge this. The game industry also doesn't acknowledge the popularity of gaming and rule 34.

I'm sure they've acknowledged it, however, they probably see a bigger opportunity going in the opposite trajectory. Like you said, let modders do it then. If it bothers you that much put up your own money and right a perceived wrong. These are business decisions.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@luzarius said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:

If a developer wants to make a game with slutty women in it or any objectionable content they are free to do so. This just seems like consumer demographics are changing and that scantily clad women aren't selling to a newer generation and evolving market.

Given the popularity of sexy skyrim mods, I would say scantily clad women are in VERY high demand, yet the game industry won't acknowledge this. The game industry also doesn't acknowledge the popularity of gaming and rule 34.

I'm sure they've acknowledged it, however, they probably see a bigger opportunity going in the opposite trajectory. Like you said, let modders do it then. If it bothers you that much put up your own money and right a perceived wrong. These are business decisions.

and more over, non of this is poltical.

unless the question is 'I am against people speaking for what they believe' because nobody on any forum i have ever read has ever said they are against inclusion.

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#107  Edited By luzarius
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@tryit said:

again..what 'ideology' specifically. give me an example of the ideology you speak of.

SJW's are leftist. They believe in "inclusion" and "diversity". So they try to shoe horn diverse characters into their games. The problem is that most of the time it's done poorly. Let me give you an example. Netflix is making a Witcher TV show. Instead of casting white women for Triss & Yennefer, they casted people of color in the name of diversity. This breaks immersion. It's hard to see Triss or Yennefer not being white, because I'm so used to seeing them that way in the games and what's described in the books.

Your SJW leftist ideology ruins games, movies and shows. This same ideology that a lot of game devs embrace. I've only seen one time where it worked well and that was Horizon Dawn Zero.

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I am asking you..who is against inclusion? it cant be political if nobody is against it.

People are against forced inclusion. Forced inclusion is similar to tokenism. No one likes tokenism.

What is forced inclusion? It's when you're coming up with characters to fulfill a generic diversity quota hecklist handed to you by management.

Executive: "Hey writer, you'er gonna need to add all these races to your story, we don't want to be called racist for not having race X & Y. You know how those fucking sjw's freak out over shit like this."

Writer: "Wait, you just want me to whip up a black guy and asian guy and just shove them into the story?"

Executive: "ya man, you're not a fucking racist are you?"

Writer: "what?! no man... I'll do as you say m'lord."

Executive: "add a muslim in there as well so no one calls us islamophobe."

writer: "But, islam dosen't even exist as a religion in my universe, it's an alternative universe"

VOX: *WRITER FIRED FOR ISLAMOPHOBIA, POSSIBLE TIES TO WHITE NATIONALISM*

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#108  Edited By TryIt
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@luzarius said:
@tryit said:

again..what 'ideology' specifically. give me an example of the ideology you speak of.

SJW's are leftist. They believe in "inclusion" and "diversity". S...

again stopping you right there.

I am asking you...

who

is

against

'inclusion'

?

if the answer is nobody then its not a political position...FULL STOP.

if its something that both the left and the right agree on then its not a leftist position...get it?

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@tryit said:
@Damedius said:

I think the bigger problem is there willingness to destroy their stories to be politically correct. ...

again..the problem is, in order for it to be 'political correct' someone has to be against it.

its not 'politically correct' to say 'money is a good thing to have'

that is something everyone agrees on, so its not political. so its not a question of 'politically correct'. politically correct DEMANDS there be a counter position.

Can I get an English translation?

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@Damedius said:
@tryit said:
@Damedius said:

I think the bigger problem is there willingness to destroy their stories to be politically correct. ...

again..the problem is, in order for it to be 'political correct' someone has to be against it.

its not 'politically correct' to say 'money is a good thing to have'

that is something everyone agrees on, so its not political. so its not a question of 'politically correct'. politically correct DEMANDS there be a counter position.

Can I get an English translation?

who is against 'inclusion'?

if both the left and the right are for 'inclusion' then its not a left position.

so who is against 'inclusion'?

that is the core of my question you try to avoid