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#1  Edited By Inferman
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The United States should not be allowed to trample the rights of human beings by preventing them from immigrating to The United States. The United States is a nation by immigrants and for immigrants. If you're a human being, then you're allowed to immigrate to the United States whenever and however you want. The term "illegal immigrant" was invited by racists.

Donald Trump needs to take a long hard look at a history book because he obviously does not understand this. There's a reason why the 9th Circuit struck down his obviously racist order; the 9th Circuit understands human rights. Hopefully this clown is impeached.

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#2  Edited By deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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@Inferman said:

The United States should not be allowed to trample the rights of human beings by preventing them from immigrating to The United States. The United States is a nation by immigrants and for immigrants. If you're a human being, then you're allowed to immigrate to the United States whenever and however you want.

Donald Trump needs to take a long hard look at a history book because he obviously does not understand this. There's a reason why the 9th Circuit struck down his obviously racist order; the 9th Circuit understands human rights. Hopefully this clown is impeached.

We have laws restricting the terms in which people can immigrate. These did not start with Donald Trump.

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#3 Inferman
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@hillelslovak said:
@Inferman said:

The United States should not be allowed to trample the rights of human beings by preventing them from immigrating to The United States. The United States is a nation by immigrants and for immigrants. If you're a human being, then you're allowed to immigrate to the United States whenever and however you want.

Donald Trump needs to take a long hard look at a history book because he obviously does not understand this. There's a reason why the 9th Circuit struck down his obviously racist order; the 9th Circuit understands human rights. Hopefully this clown is impeached.

We have laws restricting the terms in which people can immigrate. These did not start with Donald Trump.

We also used to own slaves.

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Nowhere in the US Constitution or Bill of Rights as well as following amendments does it give anyone a right to immigrate to the US. It is a privilege granted via laws granted by Congress and enforced by Customs and Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement. While the State Department will issue visas, it is Customs that checks them at entry points to the US, be it a border (with Border Patrol help) or airports.

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@Inferman said:
@hillelslovak said:
@Inferman said:

The United States should not be allowed to trample the rights of human beings by preventing them from immigrating to The United States. The United States is a nation by immigrants and for immigrants. If you're a human being, then you're allowed to immigrate to the United States whenever and however you want.

Donald Trump needs to take a long hard look at a history book because he obviously does not understand this. There's a reason why the 9th Circuit struck down his obviously racist order; the 9th Circuit understands human rights. Hopefully this clown is impeached.

We have laws restricting the terms in which people can immigrate. These did not start with Donald Trump.

We also used to own slaves.

And? I dont see how that is pertinent to 21st century immigration.

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Islam is a religion. Not a race. The ban also doesn't include every Muslim majority country. If you live or are from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, and many others. There was no travel ban imposed. If you disagree with Trump's order, no problem. But try to make more informed statements. Instead of copying and pasting a rant from someone's social media post.

There is pretty much no country, that doesn't have a procedure of taking in immigrants. Some countries, even force you to forfeit the citizenship of your country of birth.

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#7  Edited By iandizion713
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We even welcome Trumps immigrant wife and Mr. Drumpf who also comes from immigration and decided to change his name. Im guessing he wanted to hide his German side.

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#8 Treflis
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But everywhere else, you need to apply and wait to be accepted to immigrate to the nation.

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@Inferman: Are you being serious?

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Most native americans i talk to say immigrants are overrated.

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The travel ban wasn't going to stop terrorism and immigrants need to come to the US legally.

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@Inferman: Im glad you chose to post this because it shows how utterly nuts the left is.

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I think we need to cut immigration some (we are at record levels). But, I think instead of building a wall around Mexico we should consider lowering legal immigration levels.

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@Inferman: Im glad you chose to post this because it shows how utterly nuts the left is.

Yes, and all righties think they guvment is gun take therr gunz, right?

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@hillelslovak: herp derp

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#17  Edited By iandizion713
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@Quicksilver128: Hes on your side mate. Dont try to throw him on us. Own it.

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#18 Jacanuk
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@Inferman said:

The United States should not be allowed to trample the rights of human beings by preventing them from immigrating to The United States. The United States is a nation by immigrants and for immigrants. If you're a human being, then you're allowed to immigrate to the United States whenever and however you want. The term "illegal immigrant" was invited by racists.

Donald Trump needs to take a long hard look at a history book because he obviously does not understand this. There's a reason why the 9th Circuit struck down his obviously racist order; the 9th Circuit understands human rights. Hopefully this clown is impeached.

What a bunch of nonsense.

The United States of America is a sovereign state and has the right to decide who it wants inside it´s border.

But i know you are just trolling so nice try and perhaps try something not so obvious next time.

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Fakeboy.

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#20  Edited By deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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@Quicksilver128 said:

@hillelslovak: herp derp

special needs shaming, HOW DARE YOU!!!!

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#21 raugutcon
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Most of the perpetrators of 9/11 were Saudi, don't see Saudi Arabia included in the ban, Pakistan is a Muslim country and who was comfortably living in Pakistan for several years ? Yup, Bin Laden, how can the world's most wanted could be living in Pakistan ? don't tell me they didn't know he was there. Pakistan isn't included in the ban, maybe because it's America's "ally" ?

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@raugutcon: Theyre Trumps buddies.

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#24  Edited By deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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@eliminatorpaige said:

@hillelslovak: That is the plan, one I support.

If only you had a politician that supported it.

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@hillelslovak said:
@Quicksilver128 said:

@hillelslovak: herp derp

special needs shaming, HOW DARE YOU!!!!

God I hate how females (am I allowed to say that still after that horrendous gender thread?) do their eye brows like that. ITS NOT ATTRACTIVE

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@popgotcha said:
@hillelslovak said:
@Quicksilver128 said:

@hillelslovak: herp derp

special needs shaming, HOW DARE YOU!!!!

God I hate how females (am I allowed to say that still after that horrendous gender thread?) do their eye brows like that. ITS NOT ATTRACTIVE

I disagree. It's like the nugget on the top of the shit sundae.

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inferman going for account suicide?

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#28 KEND0_KAP0NI
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people dont know history....

no its not a human right.

just like when feminist say abortion is a woman's right, no its a privilege, not a right.

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#29  Edited By Jak42
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I think it should be noted, that terrorism is only a part of the problem with vetting immigrants.

What is probably the more likely bigger issue, is how someone's views and culture. Will fit in American society. If you want to throw people off a building. For simply having a belief or lifestyle you disagree with. Then America is not the place for you. Likewise, when you immigrate to another country. You have to submit to that nation's govenrmemt, laws, and culture. Trying to change aspects of your migrated country, because it lacks things you liked about your country of origin. Is not gonna fly.

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@eliminatorpaige said:

@hillelslovak: I voted for some, but most will never admit it.

That's why it will never happen. Best not to commit political suicide BEFORE you get elected.

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#32  Edited By iandizion713
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@jak42 said:

I think it should be noted, that terrorism is only a part of the problem with vetting immigrants.

What is probably the more likely bigger issue, is how someone's views and culture. Will fit in American society. If you want to throw people off a building. For simply having a belief or lifestyle you disagree with. Then America is not the place for you. Likewise, when you immigrate to another country. You have to submit to that nation's govenrmemt, laws, and culture. Trying to change aspects of your migrated country, because it lacks things you liked about your country of origin. Is not gonna fly.

Agreed, America should ban religion. Force people to denounce their religion before they can become a citizen. Exile those that refuse.

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#34 jun_aka_pekto
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@jak42 said:

I think it should be noted, that terrorism is only a part of the problem with vetting immigrants.

What is probably the more likely bigger issue, is how someone's views and culture. Will fit in American society. If you want to throw people off a building. For simply having a belief or lifestyle you disagree with. Then America is not the place for you. Likewise, when you immigrate to another country. You have to submit to that nation's govenrmemt, laws, and culture. Trying to change aspects of your migrated country, because it lacks things you liked about your country of origin. Is not gonna fly.

Probably under-reported because of the current crap going on. But, honor-killing is something that needs to be scrutinized.

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2055445,00.html

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@jun_aka_pekto said:

Probably under-reported because of the current crap going on. But, honor-killing is something that needs to be scrutinized.

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2055445,00.html

Its a shame that there's so much assumption that bias, is the reason immigrants and refugees get rejected. Many records have been destroyed or lost during the Syrian civil war. So there's an inherently high risk with taking someone, who could be lying about their identity and past. And if someone accepted decides to screw up. Best believe the immigration officials who passed them, is getting thrown under the bus. No matter how progressive said politicians claim to be in public. Happens all the time to parole boards across the country.

The days of just taking anyone in America and elsewhere, are long over. Our urban areas have grown to the point, that they cannot support a big continual influx of immigrants. Which is where migrants tend to flock to. And contrary to popular belief. There were immigrants that were rejected and sent back to their country, during the days Ellis Island was open. Usually for medical reasons. Which meant a lot of families over the years, were forced to be separated.

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Immigration is not a human right. It's a privilege that one earns and can very easily lose.

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#38 LJS9502_basic
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I have a human right not to be annoyed TC. You have failed my rights.

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#39  Edited By Jebus213
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@hillelslovak said:
@Quicksilver128 said:

@hillelslovak: herp derp

special needs shaming, HOW DARE YOU!!!!

What type of shebeast is this? That is absolutely disgusting.

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@Jebus213 said:
@hillelslovak said:
@Quicksilver128 said:

@hillelslovak: herp derp

special needs shaming, HOW DARE YOU!!!!

What type of shebeast is this? That is absolutely disgusting.

Is it even a woman?

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#41 LJS9502_basic
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@WhiteKnight77: @Jebus213: Making fun of how someone looks is so juvenile.

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TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@WhiteKnight77: @Jebus213: Making fun of how someone looks is so juvenile.

Amazing how simpletons like WhiteKnight77 say "the left" are the abusive and mean ones, lmao.

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@perfect_blue said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@WhiteKnight77: @Jebus213: Making fun of how someone looks is so juvenile.

Amazing how simpletons like WhiteKnight77 say "the left" are the abusive and mean ones, lmao.

But you just called him a name.

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#45  Edited By Jebus213
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@WhiteKnight77: @Jebus213: Making fun of how someone looks is so juvenile.

Are you gay or a woman? "Like OMG so juvenile!"

That's not the way she looks. It's a fucking self mutation. No character creation in any video game can top that shebeast.

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@Inferman said:

But you just called him a name.

And? I never claimed to have the moral high ground here. I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy of people like him always playing the victim.

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#47  Edited By Mordant221
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Lol, it doesn't work that way buddy, and it hasn't for a very long time. Also, if you think coming to the U.S. is hard, try becoming a citizen of any other developed country. Unless you're a refugee, it takes years if not a decade.

@WhiteKnight77:It's one of those new genders... attack helicopter I think it was?

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@perfect_blue said:
@Inferman said:

But you just called him a name.

And? I never claimed to have the moral high ground here. I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy of people like him always playing the victim.

But you've proved him correct by calling him a name.

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@Inferman said:

But you've proved him correct by calling him a name.

Interesting, I did not know I'm the spokesman for the entire left-wing political population...

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@perfect_blue said:
@Inferman said:

But you've proved him correct by calling him a name.

Interesting, I did not know I'm the spokesman for the entire left-wing political population...

Interesting. But you think WhiteKnight77 is a spokesman for the entire right-wing political population, which is why you called him a hypocrite for saying the left are the abusive and mean ones, lmao.