Interesting fact about those crime ridden Democrat run cities.

He's telling you why the Op-Ed(LOL) you linked was fake news. The opinion piece opined that this was not a Red State problem.

We know this is an objectively false statement.

These are also facts,

"In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden."

"But cities that do have Republican mayors do not have lower murder rates than similarly sized Democratic-led cities, the study found."

"Homicide rates are 28 percent higher in Republican-voting counties than in Democratic-voting counties."

"Despite politicized claims that this rise was the result of criminal justice reform in liberal-leaning jurisdictions, murders rose roughly equally in cities run by Republicans and cities run by Democrats."

"Murder is up about 25% nationally including nearly identical change in Democratic and Republican-run cities," says US crime analyst Jeff Asher."

"In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden."

Just citing my factual unrefuted links.

He said it was a blue city problem which is an objective fact. Something your " study"( 🤣🤣) conveintantly leaves out.

You might want to re-read your bullshit opinion piece. He lies about that in the opener,

The United States, California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) recently declared, has a “red state murder problem.” No, it doesn’t. The bogus claim comes from a March study by the Democratic think tank Third Way

L.

What are the districts of these cities with the most crime? Usually it is a democrat held district.

This wouldn't make sense or explain the State data, as Blue States have even more Democrat districts. A 40% disparity is stark.

They're still parroting the "it's the blue cities" horse crap?🤣

So what are you arguing with Zaryia over?

It makes perfect sense when you look at Demographics in the states. The places with the most crime generally have two things in common. Leadership and Demographics.

Another dog whistle from you then.

That higher crime areas are on average more likely to be run by Democrats and their policies are partly to blame.

Point to a policy.

It's just statistics actually. Unlike you I actually like them in context and try not to ignore things that may hurt my feelings.

Blue States have blue cities. This doesn't explain a 40% increase in Red States.

Demographics does though. Especially when the blue cities in those blue states have the same problem.

Red states are at the top of the crime list. That is fact. This entire thread you are ignoring things that hurt your feelings.

Because of blue cities. This is a fact you conveintantly ignore. Again you love to look at things without context as long as it fits your narrative.

Last I checked Governor's are in charge of states, not mayors. Also there are red cities with high crime as well.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-violent-cities-in-america

Quite a few on that list.

What city on that list is a red city? I see mostly blue cities some of which are in red states. A red city would be one that votes mostly republican and is ran by a republican.

The Mayors and the District Attorneys would have more to do with crime prevention then a governor.

Yeah, same problem but even more blue cities. Thanks, even more proof this doesn't account for the 40% rise.

When you look at Demographics it does.

Imagine thinking a governor has more to do with crime then a DA and a Mayor.

Imagine thinking state legislators and Governers have nothing to do with the every city in their State, even though it shows a whopping 40% higher rate of murders per capita.

Then why do blue cities in blue states with the same Demographics have the exact same problem?

You are aware that cities have people committing crimes from both parties and that also more popular leads to bigger numbers? You have such a simplistic outlook on politics, crime, geopolitics etc. Amazing really.

You realize I pull my data from per capita numbers correct? Again stop ignoring what's right in front of you.

The Democrats own this crime problem, with their deaminization of the police, social justice bail reform. and lenient crime charges by Democrat DS supported by Soros, plus Democrat congressmen who still call for defunding the police.

What's right in front of me is red states lead in crime. Why are you continually ignoring that?

You watch too much propaganda. Democrats voted to fund police, Republicans voted no. Bail reform does need done. Non violent offenders that can't afford bail are stuck in jail while not convicted of any crime.

Because your ignoring the fact the vast majority of the crime in those red states are in blue cities.

As I said before the local government ( Mayor , District Attorney etc) have more to do with crime then a governor.

You live in an opposite reality. Defund the police was a far left slogan. Although most didn't support it the left voted to fund the police a few weeks ago because they are getting destroyed in the polls.

So Governor's are no longer involved in state government. Is that what you actually want us to believe?

I didn't say that. But the reality is when you look at crime in an area you need to look at local leadership as they have far more to do with what's going on.

Let's try an analogy. If you and I are on a cruise ship and the food is disgusting do you blame the captain of the ship? Or the Chef in the kitchen?

Exactly, while those STATES have 40% less murder rate per capita.

There is no way you can excuse Red States/Officials entirely as your op-ed did. He was peddling fiction.

The states don't have the same demographics though.

How would you completely excuse local blue city/ Officials where that's where the vast majority of crimes happen?

I never did. I'm not excusing the State or State officials either, a 40% uptick in those states only is a major.

Sounds almost like Silent means blue cities in red states have so high murder rate that it accounts for that 40% difference between blue and red states.

Why should the taxpayers across the county repay Democrat cities that defunded the police? The Democrat Cities that defunded the police take the money back from where they put it and back in police budgets. Money aside the biggest thing the Democrats was to demonize the police to the point the people serving as police are leaving and retiring and they can't get people to apply to be police. The Democrats are doping the same thing to the military.

Police were NOT defunded. Some money was allocated in some cities to specific issues that cops no longer have to deal with.

With way Republican groups are running ads about crimes it's like they're claiming that we live in some kind of Robocop crime ridden world.

Money was transferred from the police budgets to social venues, In NY City a billion dollars was taken from the police budget, the same thing happened in other cities controlled by Democrats. That is defunding the police by proxy.

State governors have little control over local level elected policy makers unless the state constitutions give them the power.

You will spin the truth to cover for your actions.

The money allocated based on the job being done with it. The police no longer do that job. It's not defunding.

@zaryia: why would anyone agree with your so called stats? Nobody in the real world lives in a bubble where the study’s don’t always relate to what is happening in reality. Democrats failed to address the surge in crimes and the GOP have been resonated with the common public. Keep believing your fantasy that Jacksonville is somehow a Red city because it’s not

@LJS9502_basic: LOL, I can tell how uneducated you are how local government works! The State Governor responsibility is to govern the entire state, and represent the state at a federal level, he cannot control crimes with every district, so the power goes to local officials like a mayor, which their role is to represent the city or township. Therefore the city officials call the shots on how things are run and make their own laws

Actually it's you that is uneducated. Money is allotted for specific programs. When that is broken into various different platforms, the money is allotted for the specific programs. Also only a few municipalities did this so screaming the Democrats defunded the police when it's the REPUBLICANS that voted against money for the police smacks of ignorance, hypocrisy, and partisan BS.

Because they have a GED or above?

To say my links are wrong requires someone to either be trolling or to be vastly uneducated. All of the data shows I am right, and no counter data has been provided.

You know why? Because the studies and fact checks are correct. If they were wrong and so easy to refute it would have been done by now. This is the part where you give me conspiracy theories about google search being rigged.

[Citation Needed]

This is lunacy. I could extrapolate this logic towards Covid and Climate studies and say they are all wrong "just because". You know how crazy that sounds? This isn't real debating.

Every single data set on this matter shows the 2020+ crime surge was universal. Blue and Red.

• Myths and Realities: Understanding Recent Trends in Violent Crime | Brennan Center for Justice
• Murders Are Rising. Blaming a Party Doesn’t Add Up. - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
• Rural America Reels From Violent Crime. ‘People Lost Their Ever-Lovin’ Minds.’ - WSJ
• US elections 2020: Fact-checking Trump on crime in Democratic-run cities - BBC News

Why even lie when this can easily be googled? This is climate and vaccine denial levels of wrong.

1. Blue States have Blue Cities too. Yet the 40% uptick is for Red States on average. To completely excuse State officials given his fact requires fantasy and fiction. And since the excusing of Red State officials is the claim presented by cons ITT, it requires citation.

2. You have to show the 40% uptick is due to Blue Cities alone and nothing else, for every Red States. With citation. Good luck.

TLDR: All of your claims are unfounded, and far fetched.

Have you ever had to mange a department and had a good portion of your budget taken away from you? You have to make up the difference. You eliminate programs and eliminate jobs. That is what happened to the police. It is defunding I don't care how you spin it that is the hard truth and we are now paying the price for that decision.