https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KF5pyP8hbM
Someone help me out here - is she doing this as a real spin or is she genuinely uninformed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KF5pyP8hbM
Someone help me out here - is she doing this as a real spin or is she genuinely uninformed?
No she didn’t. She was comparing Obama’s and Trump’s leadership in pandemics, not the actual pandemics. Conservatives are so scared they are making up controversies.
No she didn’t. She was comparing Obama’s and Trump’s leadership in pandemics, not the actual pandemics. Conservatives are so scared they are making up controversies. Sad.
Another user who vanishes for 4 years and comes back. Hmmmm, me smells an alt.
Except the "EBOLA CRISIS" was never a pandemic. And that's where you and her both fail.
I'm also glad that I and my supposed alternate account are keeping you up at night. Must really pain you, you are bringing it up quite often.
right-wingers are scared of "nasty" Kamala Harris and old Joe Biden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KF5pyP8hbM
Someone help me out here - is she doing this as a real spin or is she genuinely uninformed?
I will help you.
You are spinning it. And you are uninformed.
Try context next time. You'll learn something and look like less of a jackass.
@Watch_My_6: It wasn’t a crisis, so you fail. You also fail because you took her out of context.
Bring it up often? Good job admitting it. Personal attacks, I know who you are.
I'm using her words. She called it a crisis.
She called it a pandemic. It's not out of context - it's what she said. HER WORDS. Yet, the WHO did not call it that.
You had virtually zero% getting if you did not live in West Africa. "bu...bu...but Obama saved us from ebola". LMFAO.
I rate your post 0/10.
@thegreatchomp: If she makes that comparison she would lose. And making up controversies is THE Democrats ONLY tactic. Do I need to list the fake controversies even ones perpetrated on purpose to make Trump look bad? Here is a few Russia investigation, Impeachment. Jessie Smollet. Nick Sandman, Nascar "noose", Bleach Drinking, do I need more?
I mean the whole systemic racism is making up a controversy. Sure there is racism but it is hardly systemic the media makes you think it is. I mean watch the weather channel you think that tornados hit trailer parks 90 percent of the time. That is because a tornado out in a field is not news. They report 1 white cop shooting a black suspect no matter if it was a legal shooting or not but do not show you then 5+ white suspects that were shot by a cop that very same week.
You do know those things are not perpetrated but are real. Russia investigation happened and interference was found. trump was impeached. There were some issues with Smollet and Sandman but neither was a conspiracy but individuals doing the wrong thing.. The rope was found in the shape of a noose and someone not the driver thought it meant something, and trump DID say disinfectant for people could work. Why lie about this?
Systemic racism is also a thing. Maybe get out of your bubble and see the real world. As for your last statement...........you look at percentage not total number. Obviously white people are a majority here but police shootings of black people that are a minority have a higher percentage. Math is a wonderful thing.
Someone help me out here - is she doing this as a real spin or is she genuinely uninformed?
She gave facts. I see you really do need help out here. First turn of Faux News and never listen to it again, stop reading trump tweets, and ignore his lies and conspiracy theories. You're welcome.
ITT: Forum liberals fail to read and blindly protect their overlords.
right-wingers are scared of "nasty" Kamala Harris and old Joe Biden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KF5pyP8hbM
Someone help me out here - is she doing this as a real spin or is she genuinely uninformed?
I will help you.
You are spinning it. And you are uninformed.
Try context next time. You'll learn something and look like less of a jackass.
World Health Organization does not label Ebola as a pandemic in 2014.
Kamela Harris claims it was a pandemic.
She further proceeds to given Obama and Biden credit for their "response".
ROFLMAO
WHO IS THE JACKASS NOW??
WHO IS THE JACKASS NOW??
I think the person complaining about one single word and not the actual message.
@gaeandilth: LOL. None of those were fake, and if you think systemic racism doesn’t exist, you are racist. Learn what it is, start there. Stop making up stuff, all you have. Remember, according to Trump Kamala isn’t an American.
@Watch_My_6: It wasn’t a crisis, so you fail. You also fail because you took her out of context.
Bring it up often? Good job admitting it. Personal attacks, I know who you are.
Show me any evidence anything there was real. One single thing. And Jessie Smollet and the Nascar noose and the Russia investigation are PROVEN, And systemic racism says that it is widespread and is increasing. It is not widespread and it has been decreasing for 50 years(since the democrats decided to drop their racist agenda). So someone here needs to learn what it is. I grew up in the 70s and 80s I know what racism looks like and have not seen much of it in years.
Giving you a rating of a 0 of 10 is not a personal attack but calling me a racist is maybe you should look up the definition of that one too.
WHO IS THE JACKASS NOW??
I think the person complaining about one single word and not the actual message.
Lol the democrats never do that. Wait AoC used that exact phrase or close to it did she not? Im going to go look it up!!
Lol the democrats never do that. Wait AoC used that exact phrase or close to it did she not? Im going to go look it up!!
My post
Your head
Congrats
WHO IS THE JACKASS NOW??
I think the person complaining about one single word and not the actual message.
Are you being daft or are you being serious? With all of your drive-by posting, I can honestly never tell.
Do you not understand the significance of labeling ebola as a pandemic when it clearly was not?
Are you being daft or are you being serious? With all of your drive-by posting, I can honestly never tell.
Do you not understand the significance of labeling ebola as a pandemic when it clearly was not?
It's not that big of a deal. Had we had trump I have no doubt the US would have fared worse though.
Everyone knows Covid is just a mild flu that was gone by may. Makes no sense comparisons with Ebola.
@LJS9502_basic:
Russia investigation happened and interference was found.
Sure was. Was proven that the Clinton campaign engaged in interference through the Dossier. Was also proven Russia was involved. But not a single thing was even remotely tied to trump.
trump was impeached.
Funny I watched the entire Impeachment hearings never once heard an Impeachable offense mentioned. You think Trump's lawyers and advisors would of let him release the transcripts of the exact conversation if there was any true wrong doing? He had every right to keep that conversation private. That was a offense to the very core of the house of representatives and their duty to the American people. Clinton impeachment was pretty bad but not this bad. And Clinton would of never got impeached if he did not lie(although todays woke democrat party would not put up with that).
The noose, Smollet, and sandman were the democrats jumping to the first conclusion that supported their agenda facts and proof be damned. Did the same thing to Kavanaugh btw.
And the disinfectant thing I have explained quite a few times how about you go look up what was actually said instead of me this time? Sure Trump was a little oblivious to how a virus works and once in the body is almost impossible to get rid of because it uses your own cells to defend itself. But he never suggested anything close to drinking bleach or disinfectant.
WHO IS THE JACKASS NOW??
I think the person complaining about one single word and not the actual message.
Pretty much.
@Watch_My_6: LOL. Your not even trying.
No. No they are not.
WHO IS THE JACKASS NOW??
I think the person complaining about one single word and not the actual message.
Are you being daft or are you being serious? With all of your drive-by posting, I can honestly never tell.
Do you not understand the significance of labeling ebola as a pandemic when it clearly was not?
This is not the hill you want to die on. You're essentially stooping to being a grammar nazi "Oh she used this word when she meant this word WHAT AN IDIOT!"
C'mon dude. See the bigger picture. See the forest for the trees, stop making mountains out of molehills, and all those things.
Go back to calling Kamala nasty and Biden "mentally unfit". Those were slightly less pointless than this, and a lot more entertaining.
@LJS9502_basic:
Russia investigation happened and interference was found.
Sure was. Was proven that the Clinton campaign engaged in interference through the Dossier. Was also proven Russia was involved. But not a single thing was even remotely tied to trump.
trump was impeached.
Funny I watched the entire Impeachment hearings never once heard an Impeachable offense mentioned. You think Trump's lawyers and advisors would of let him release the transcripts of the exact conversation if there was any true wrong doing? He had every right to keep that conversation private. That was a offense to the very core of the house of representatives and their duty to the American people. Clinton impeachment was pretty bad but not this bad. And Clinton would of never got impeached if he did not lie(although todays woke democrat party would not put up with that).
The noose, Smollet, and sandman were the democrats jumping to the first conclusion that supported their agenda facts and proof be damned. Did the same thing to Kavanaugh btw.
And the disinfectant thing I have explained quite a few times how about you go look up what was actually said instead of me this time? Sure Trump was a little oblivious to how a virus works and once in the body is almost impossible to get rid of because it uses your own cells to defend itself. But he never suggested anything close to drinking bleach or disinfectant.
No Russian interference which was proven was that RUSSIA interfered in the election. Period.
The House impeaches........not you. He was impeached. Period.
I heard what he said. You're an apologist. trump clearly stated a disinfectant injection could work. As for Smollet etc they are minor things. The Democratic party had nothing to do with those events. You're dishonest.
@LJS9502_basic: Systemic racism is also a thing. Maybe get out of your bubble and see the real world. As for your last statement...........you look at percentage not total number. Obviously white people are a majority here but police shootings of black people that are a minority have a higher percentage. Math is a wonderful thing.
Yeah you notice I said 1 black guy shot and 5 white guys? Do the math. There is roughly 5 times as many white people as black people I did not pick this number out of thin air. Basically debated by everyone and numbers are twisted and facts are omitted because the truth there is no clear bias there at all. If it was systemic racism there would be no doubt.
And the guy with almost 200000 posts going to tell me to get out in the real world? Really?
@LJS9502_basic: Systemic racism is also a thing. Maybe get out of your bubble and see the real world. As for your last statement...........you look at percentage not total number. Obviously white people are a majority here but police shootings of black people that are a minority have a higher percentage. Math is a wonderful thing.
Yeah you notice I said 1 black guy shot and 5 white guys? Do the math. There is roughly 5 times as many white people as black people I did not pick this number out of thin air. Basically debated by everyone and numbers are twisted and facts are omitted because the truth there is no clear bias there at all. If it was systemic racism there would be no doubt.
And the guy with almost 200000 posts going to tell me to get out in the real world? Really?
Math is not your strong suit and you don't know how percentages work. There is a higher percentage of minorities shot while the demographic is well.......less.
@LJS9502_basic: Here is some math for you 17x365/170383 posts = I have been out in the world a WHOLE lot more then you. seriously though 28 posts a day for 17 years? I mean do the old school moderators even have that many?
No she didn’t. She was comparing Obama’s and Trump’s leadership in pandemics, not the actual pandemics. Conservatives are so scared they are making up controversies. Sad.
Another user who vanishes for 4 years and comes back. Hmmmm, me smells an alt.
Except the "EBOLA CRISIS" was never a pandemic. And that's where you and her both fail.
I'm also glad that I and my supposed alternate account are keeping you up at night. Must really pain you, you are bringing it up quite often.
Now, I'm not going to say this is all one person hacking multiple accounts to shitpost rightwing trolling at the behest of Russian farm rings.
I'm just going to say, boy it's awfully convenient that a plethora of 10+ year old accounts with less than a thousand posts keep showing up with alt-right opinions and propaganda pieces.
@LJS9502_basic: Systemic racism is also a thing. Maybe get out of your bubble and see the real world. As for your last statement...........you look at percentage not total number. Obviously white people are a majority here but police shootings of black people that are a minority have a higher percentage. Math is a wonderful thing.
Yeah you notice I said 1 black guy shot and 5 white guys? Do the math. There is roughly 5 times as many white people as black people I did not pick this number out of thin air. Basically debated by everyone and numbers are twisted and facts are omitted because the truth there is no clear bias there at all. If it was systemic racism there would be no doubt.
And the guy with almost 200000 posts going to tell me to get out in the real world? Really?
Math is not your strong suit and you don't know how percentages work. There is a higher percentage of minorities shot while the demographic is well.......less.
I do understand math and roughly twice as many whites are shot as blacks. Whites outnumber blacks 5 to 1. So here the numbers are in your favor. Now lets go into crime statistics. Roughly white people commit a bit less then 2 times more crime then blacks(reason to even deal with a cop). So now the numbers are back to about equal. There are many more statistics you could count or not count where it comes right back down to opinion and not facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KF5pyP8hbM
Someone help me out here - is she doing this as a real spin or is she genuinely uninformed?
I mean this is pretty much a nothing burger compared to Trump's false statements and failures on covid-19.
Off topic and not a political dig or anything. But does Kamala Harris sound like Lois Griffin with a stuffy nose to anyone else?
Pretty much.
No. No they are not.
This is not the hill you want to die on. You're essentially stooping to being a grammar nazi "Oh she used this word when she meant this word WHAT AN IDIOT!"
C'mon dude. See the bigger picture. See the forest for the trees, stop making mountains out of molehills, and all those things.
Go back to calling Kamala nasty and Biden "mentally unfit". Those were slightly less pointless than this, and a lot more entertaining.
It has nothing to do with grammar or misspoken words. Absolutely nothing.
It's not that big of a deal.
False.
Your opinion means shit.
Are all the other 170,000+ of your posts this bad?
No she didn’t. She was comparing Obama’s and Trump’s leadership in pandemics, not the actual pandemics. Conservatives are so scared they are making up controversies. Sad.
Another user who vanishes for 4 years and comes back. Hmmmm, me smells an alt.
Except the "EBOLA CRISIS" was never a pandemic. And that's where you and her both fail.
I'm also glad that I and my supposed alternate account are keeping you up at night. Must really pain you, you are bringing it up quite often.
Now, I'm not going to say this is all one person hacking multiple accounts to shitpost rightwing trolling at the behest of Russian farm rings.
I'm just going to say, boy it's awfully convenient that a plethora of 10+ year old accounts with less than a thousand posts keep showing up with alt-right opinions and propaganda pieces.
LMAO - you must be real salty that I have come to disrupt your forum with truth and facts. You are now the 3rd person to want to call me out for being "an alt" in just a couple of days.
I don't understand the obsession. It's just me, your friendly neighborhood GS poster.
If you must know, I have never made another account on this forum that has been banned. Nor do I have any other account that I have used since this forum was rebranded "Political Gamers".
I really don't understand the concern though. Like you're trying to "catch me" or something. Sad, pathetic, and honestly, expected.
@zaryia Except the clear deception and false credit, right?
@LJS9502_basic: Why are you arguing with trolls? It’s just a waste of valuable time.
@vaasman: Bingo! Seems a little suspicious they popped up now after being gone for 4 years. Hmmmm.
Or how you popped up in 2020 and started posting radical bs.
Not sure how many people listen to the Crooked Media podcasts (Pod Save America, for example) but there is a new one called "Missing America" and part of it delves into how the US success with Ebola could have carried over into success with COVID, but did not due to poor leadership.
It's a good listen, and a great program--brutally honest about how America has lost it's place, but simultaneously hopeful for the future--so I recommend people listen to it.
Right-wing snowflakes be warned, it is definitely made by the Orange Man Bad crowd. Though the fact that these are not talking heads but actual people with political experience definitely gives it some legitimacy.
*If you don't want to listen to it, the summary is pretty straight-forward: we were on top of our shit with the Ebola by being preventative and seeing how it would hurt the world economy if we didn't do anything. We are not on top of our shit with COVID because "America First" nonsense and we threw the playbook away for dealing with pandemics.
@thegreatchomp: If she makes that comparison she would lose. And making up controversies is THE Democrats ONLY tactic. Do I need to list the fake controversies even ones perpetrated on purpose to make Trump look bad? Here is a few Russia investigation, Impeachment. Jessie Smollet. Nick Sandman, Nascar "noose", Bleach Drinking, do I need more?
UV lights inside the body wasn't one?
Ebola wasn't as transmissible because it killed their victims rather quickly.
It was also never a pandemic. It was a warning. Many experts warned of new viruses in the future and that we may see a pandemic. Nobody listened. Not even Kamala, Obama, or Biden.
Kamala is always lying. She's a career politician, with sociopathic tendencies. It's what they do best to the ill informed public to gain support.
Ebola wasn't as transmissible because it killed their victims rather quickly.
It was also never a pandemic. It was a warning. Many experts warned of new viruses in the future and that we may see a pandemic. Nobody listened. Not even Kamala, Obama, or Biden.
Kamala is always lying. She's a career politician, with sociopathic tendencies. It's what they do best to the ill informed public to gain support.
Obama and Biden did listen, they wrote the "pandemic plan" based on the US's experience helping with the Ebola. As you said, it was a warning and the current political system listened and wrote something based on it.
Had Trump listened too instead of saying "No this is the China-virus, close the borders and we will be fine." we wouldn't be here 170k+ deaths later.
How is Kamala lying, if you don't mind telling me. And frankly I will take a "career politician" over an "outsider" like Trump any day of the week. Not making the same mistake I made in 2016.
She’s an idiot woefully unqualified for VP and/or PotUS. The only reason her name is on the ballot is to score woke quota points from the left. The far left hate her, the left are meh on her, and undecideds don’t know who the hell she is or why she’s running.
In other words, Trump 2020.
@Gaming-Planet Even Mitch McConnell backtracked and admitted he was wrong about nobody listening. But nice strawman.
https://khn.org/news/evidence-shows-obama-team-left-a-pandemic-game-plan-for-trump-administration/
It even mentions corona viruses as a possible future culprit.
It doesn't matter if the previous administration left a "gameplan" or not. Even the article Sud linked to: "There has been discussion in recent days as to whether the Obama plan was dated because it dealt with lessons learned from earlier outbreaks that may not apply to the current pandemic" alludes to it being useless.
What matters is that ebola was not a pandemic.
Ebola's spread: "Ebola virus disease is not transmitted through the air and does not spread through casual contact, such as being near an infected person. Unlike respiratory illnesses, which can spread by particles that remain in the air after an infected person coughs or sneezes, Ebola is spread by direct contact with body fluids of a person who is sick with Ebola." - https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ebola-virus/expert-answers/can-ebola-spread-through-air/faq-20115575
Unless you lived in Guinea, Sierra Leone, or Liberia, you were not catching ebola.
Comparing the two diseases in any way is asinine.
I'm sure the other 192 countries that suffered more Covid deaths, cases, and loss of economic dollars [compared to ebola] would have done soooooo much better if they had read Obama's ebola plan.
What. A. Joke.
She’s an idiot woefully unqualified for VP and/or PotUS. The only reason her name is on the ballot is to score woke quota points from the left. The far left hate her, the left are meh on her, and undecideds don’t know who the hell she is or why she’s running.
In other words, Trump 2020.
How can you call her unqualified and then say Trump 2020 lol.
It doesn't matter if the previous administration left a "gameplan" or not. Even the article Sud linked to: "There has been discussion in recent days as to whether the Obama plan was dated because it dealt with lessons learned from earlier outbreaks that may not apply to the current pandemic" alludes to it being useless.
What matters is that ebola was not a pandemic.
Ebola's spread: "Ebola virus disease is not transmitted through the air and does not spread through casual contact, such as being near an infected person. Unlike respiratory illnesses, which can spread by particles that remain in the air after an infected person coughs or sneezes, Ebola is spread by direct contact with body fluids of a person who is sick with Ebola." - https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ebola-virus/expert-answers/can-ebola-spread-through-air/faq-20115575
Unless you lived in Guinea, Sierra Leone, or Liberia, you were not catching ebola.
Comparing the two diseases in any way is asinine.
I'm sure the other 192 countries that suffered more Covid deaths, cases, and loss of economic dollars [compared to ebola] would have done soooooo much better if they had read Obama's ebola plan.
What. A. Joke.
You are the joke and clearly have no idea what you are talking about. The issue is not comparing Ebola vs Covid-19 and the Obama administration did not create an Ebola plan.
The Obama administration in response to historical issues like SARS, MERS, and the more recent Ebola (which was never a pandemic and did not pose any material risk at the time):
- Proactively created a pandemic planning group
- Developed a generic plan outlining criteria for the gov't to assess any situation, described how the different agencies should work together, and identified response capabilities e.g. DPA, national stockpile, etc.
- Socialized the plan with incoming Trump administration officials
Whereas the Trump administration
1. Immediately disbanded the pandemic planning group on taking office
2. (In the face of an actual pandemic) ignored the planning playbook they were given and put the President's son-in-law in charge of coordinating response which he was totally unequipped to do and creating unnecessary confusion amongst gov't agencies.
3. Spent months alternating between running around confused like the Keystone Cops or simply living in denial because it just a little flu that will go away.
So tell me, which administration reacted as adults in a reasonably organized and thoughtful manner to their situation? And which one was totally disorganized and incoherent in its response? That is what the issue is...not the differences between the two public health threats.
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