@Sevenizz: Just because you have a job doesn’t mean you are qualified for it. I could get a job as a brain surgeon, doesn’t mean I am qualified for it.
Kamela Harris compares Ebola to Covid-19.
Ebola was never an international pandemic. COVID is.
Ebola is transmitted through bodily fluid exchange. COVID is as easy to catch as a flu or common cold.
And if this Kamala moron wants to use numbers to similarly compare illnesses - Trump has zero Ebola deaths under his tenure - Obama does not.
@Sevenizz said:
@zaryia: ‘How can you call her unqualified and then say Trump 2020 lol.’
What are her qualifications? As for Trump, well, he IS the president so...yea? Your point?
And he screwed the country up..........showing he's unqualified.
@Sevenizz said:
Ebola was never an international pandemic. COVID is.
Ebola is transmitted through bodily fluid exchange. COVID is as easy to catch as a flu or common cold.
And if this Kamala moron wants to use numbers to similarly compare illnesses - Trump has zero Ebola deaths under his tenure - Obama does not.
Has nothing to do with trump disbanding the group and ignoring the plans. NOTHING!
@SUD123456 said:
@Watch_My_6 said:
It doesn't matter if the previous administration left a "gameplan" or not. Even the article Sud linked to: "There has been discussion in recent days as to whether the Obama plan was dated because it dealt with lessons learned from earlier outbreaks that may not apply to the current pandemic" alludes to it being useless.
What matters is that ebola was not a pandemic.
Ebola's spread: "Ebola virus disease is not transmitted through the air and does not spread through casual contact, such as being near an infected person. Unlike respiratory illnesses, which can spread by particles that remain in the air after an infected person coughs or sneezes, Ebola is spread by direct contact with body fluids of a person who is sick with Ebola." - https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ebola-virus/expert-answers/can-ebola-spread-through-air/faq-20115575
Unless you lived in Guinea, Sierra Leone, or Liberia, you were not catching ebola.
Comparing the two diseases in any way is asinine.
I'm sure the other 192 countries that suffered more Covid deaths, cases, and loss of economic dollars [compared to ebola] would have done soooooo much better if they had read Obama's ebola plan.
What. A. Joke.
You are the joke and clearly have no idea what you are talking about. The issue is not comparing Ebola vs Covid-19 and the Obama administration did not create an Ebola plan.
The Obama administration in response to historical issues like SARS, MERS, and the more recent Ebola (which was never a pandemic and did not pose any material risk at the time):
- Proactively created a pandemic planning group
- Developed a generic plan outlining criteria for the gov't to assess any situation, described how the different agencies should work together, and identified response capabilities e.g. DPA, national stockpile, etc.
- Socialized the plan with incoming Trump administration officials
Whereas the Trump administration
1. Immediately disbanded the pandemic planning group on taking office
2. (In the face of an actual pandemic) ignored the planning playbook they were given and put the President's son-in-law in charge of coordinating response which he was totally unequipped to do and creating unnecessary confusion amongst gov't agencies.
3. Spent months alternating between running around confused like the Keystone Cops or simply living in denial because it just a little flu that will go away.
So tell me, which administration reacted as adults in a reasonably organized and thoughtful manner to their situation? And which one was totally disorganized and incoherent in its response? That is what the issue is...not the differences between the two public health threats.
Completely and utterly irrelevant. You cannot compare the response to something based upon completely different stimuli.
It's like grading someone's response to a home invasion - except one person has to deal with a robber who is carrying a 12 gauge and the other dealt with...an ant.
Trump's message has been very consistent for months now - he has supported states in whatever they choose. It's not his fault that blue states have double the amount of deaths. Looks like they were the ones who needed to read Obama's holy playbook.
18% of ebola cases in the US resulted in death.
Only 1% of Covid cases resulted in death.
Trump administration really handled this a lot better.
@Sevenizz said:
What are her qualifications? As for Trump, well, he IS the president so...yea? Your point?
Uhh...she was a lawyer, DA, and is a Senator.
Trump was just some guy who got Daddy's $500million, and dabbled in real estate and TV with that. She is quite a bit more qualified than he was in 2016.
It also helps she didn't give us the worst economy in decades and 170k+ deaths. That's all Trump will be known for always.
@Watch_My_6: really so why do we got some many deaths. why is it that inspections the fda. cant access pork manf plants.
you brought noting other then options to a debate.
@Watch_My_6 said:
@SUD123456 said:
@Watch_My_6 said:
It doesn't matter if the previous administration left a "gameplan" or not. Even the article Sud linked to: "There has been discussion in recent days as to whether the Obama plan was dated because it dealt with lessons learned from earlier outbreaks that may not apply to the current pandemic" alludes to it being useless.
What matters is that ebola was not a pandemic.
Ebola's spread: "Ebola virus disease is not transmitted through the air and does not spread through casual contact, such as being near an infected person. Unlike respiratory illnesses, which can spread by particles that remain in the air after an infected person coughs or sneezes, Ebola is spread by direct contact with body fluids of a person who is sick with Ebola." - https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ebola-virus/expert-answers/can-ebola-spread-through-air/faq-20115575
Unless you lived in Guinea, Sierra Leone, or Liberia, you were not catching ebola.
Comparing the two diseases in any way is asinine.
I'm sure the other 192 countries that suffered more Covid deaths, cases, and loss of economic dollars [compared to ebola] would have done soooooo much better if they had read Obama's ebola plan.
What. A. Joke.
You are the joke and clearly have no idea what you are talking about. The issue is not comparing Ebola vs Covid-19 and the Obama administration did not create an Ebola plan.
The Obama administration in response to historical issues like SARS, MERS, and the more recent Ebola (which was never a pandemic and did not pose any material risk at the time):
- Proactively created a pandemic planning group
- Developed a generic plan outlining criteria for the gov't to assess any situation, described how the different agencies should work together, and identified response capabilities e.g. DPA, national stockpile, etc.
- Socialized the plan with incoming Trump administration officials
Whereas the Trump administration
1. Immediately disbanded the pandemic planning group on taking office
2. (In the face of an actual pandemic) ignored the planning playbook they were given and put the President's son-in-law in charge of coordinating response which he was totally unequipped to do and creating unnecessary confusion amongst gov't agencies.
3. Spent months alternating between running around confused like the Keystone Cops or simply living in denial because it just a little flu that will go away.
So tell me, which administration reacted as adults in a reasonably organized and thoughtful manner to their situation? And which one was totally disorganized and incoherent in its response? That is what the issue is...not the differences between the two public health threats.
Completely and utterly irrelevant. You cannot compare the response to something based upon completely different stimuli.
It's like grading someone's response to a home invasion - except one person has to deal with a robber who is carrying a 12 gauge and the other dealt with...an ant.
Trump's message has been very consistent for months now - he has supported states in whatever they choose. It's not his fault that blue states have double the amount of deaths. Looks like they were the ones who needed to read Obama's holy playbook.
Got it...the response is based upon the specific health emergency, there is no value in preparedness or planning in general, and our assessment of the efficacy of the response should take that into account.
For Covid-19, appoint your totally incompetent for the task son-in-law to coordinate the federal response, ignore the playbook for assessing the seriousness of the issue, fail to take any action on the DPA, waste a couple months ignoring the need for increases to the national stockpile, don't encourage wide spread testing, pooh pooh the seriousness, drink bleach and pretend it will just go away.
For SARS2.0, appoint your totally incompetent daughter to co-ordinate the federal response, shred the playbook for assessing the seriousness of the issue, fire everyone at the CDC, promote the miracle cure your buddy at mypillow.com has invested in, announce that it's just a little virus, and go golfing.
For H1N23456, appoint your totally incompetent son to coordinate the federal response, wipe your ass with the pages of the pandemic playbook (making sure to flush and wash your hands), blame anyone and everyone else for the situation, shrug off the death toll because 'it is what it is', retweet a conspiracy theory that H1N2346 was created in a pizza parlor in DC by Democrat operatives, and go golfing a lot.
Your assessment of the situation is sheer genius. I think you should inform the Pentagon that defense planning is irrelevant. Be sure to tell Donald he can appoint his youngest son to coordinate the response should it be necessary.
@Watch_My_6 said:
@Vaasman said:
Now, I'm not going to say this is all one person hacking multiple accounts to shitpost rightwing trolling at the behest of Russian farm rings.
I'm just going to say, boy it's awfully convenient that a plethora of 10+ year old accounts with less than a thousand posts keep showing up with alt-right opinions and propaganda pieces.
LMAO - you must be real salty that I have come to disrupt your forum with truth and facts. You are now the 3rd person to want to call me out for being "an alt" in just a couple of days.
I don't understand the obsession. It's just me, your friendly neighborhood GS poster.
If you must know, I have never made another account on this forum that has been banned. Nor do I have any other account that I have used since this forum was rebranded "Political Gamers".
I really don't understand the concern though. Like you're trying to "catch me" or something. Sad, pathetic, and honestly, expected.
Yes yes, and it was sad and pathetic when I made this same point to the last random 10 year old account, just like it will be when I do for the next, and the next after. Probably "expected" for the exact same reason.
I kind of wonder though, is it really easier than just making a new email? Like is there a big base of accounts that don't receive traffic and get grabbed? And if so, is it done just because it lends credence, or because they're all already open and uncontested so it saves time on the front end?
@thegreatchomp said:
No she didn’t. She was comparing Obama’s and Trump’s leadership in pandemics, not the actual pandemics. Conservatives are so scared they are making up controversies. Sad.
Another user who vanishes for 4 years and comes back. Hmmmm, me smells an alt.
She should have used the H1N1 virus which is more representative for a comparative basis.
@SUD123456 said:
Got it...the response is based upon the specific health emergency, there is no value in preparedness or planning in general, and our assessment of the efficacy of the response should take that into account.
For Covid-19, appoint your totally incompetent for the task son-in-law to coordinate the federal response, ignore the playbook for assessing the seriousness of the issue, fail to take any action on the DPA, waste a couple months ignoring the need for increases to the national stockpile, don't encourage wide spread testing, pooh pooh the seriousness, drink bleach and pretend it will just go away.
For SARS2.0, appoint your totally incompetent daughter to co-ordinate the federal response, shred the playbook for assessing the seriousness of the issue, fire everyone at the CDC, promote the miracle cure your buddy at mypillow.com has invested in, announce that it's just a little virus, and go golfing.
For H1N23456, appoint your totally incompetent son to coordinate the federal response, wipe your ass with the pages of the pandemic playbook (making sure to flush and wash your hands), blame anyone and everyone else for the situation, shrug off the death toll because 'it is what it is', retweet a conspiracy theory that H1N2346 was created in a pizza parlor in DC by Democrat operatives, and go golfing a lot.
Your assessment of the situation is sheer genius. I think you should inform the Pentagon that defense planning is irrelevant. Be sure to tell Donald he can appoint his youngest son to coordinate the response should it be necessary.
He takes defence planning and intelligence very serious. He listens to Putin when it comes to US intelligence.
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