Kentucky Governor wants free healthcare for all black residents.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/democrat-kentucky-governor-andy-beshear-announces-plans-provide-100-health-coverage-black-residents-video/

Yes really.

So what are everyones thoughts on this. Is this a fair way to end systematic racism? Or is making your population pay for an entire groups healthcare based on their race a little much?

If that happens the white population will suddenly be in favor of free healthcare for everyone.

Hmmm. While I support 'free' healthcare, giving it to just one race seems...racist.

I don't know.

Pretty much...…...

Why are people so reactionary......This is beyond dumb (same thing with uber eats).

Doesn't seem fair.

I can agree with this also. Just doesn't seem right to me. I am not all for free health care, but if you give it to just one race that seems a little odd.

i don't see this going over well.

On the surface this seems like a really dumb political move, but I wonder if this will create an argument between residents of Kentucky between whether everyone should have access to health care or no one should have access making one side seem much more reasonable and kind than the other.

Just a ploy to get white people in that state to support free healthcare.

No better way to combat racism than to enact racist policies.

What race? We are all Humans are we not? (At least I hope some of you guys are and if not, welcome to planet Earth)

Ye not really. Make health care universal.

Keep playing identity politics!

Which has nothing to do with picking and choosing specific demographics.

If it is a move to get it for everyone, I guess it is OK, otherwise nah.

Newsweek: "Today, I'm going to make a commitment on coverage. I believe that health care is a basic human right and I talked about when I was running that I wanted everybody to have some form of health care coverage," he continued. "Well, as I've been listening and as I've been trying to hear from those who have been giving voice on in inequality, it is that it's time to give prioritization in black and African-American communities, so we are going to do that."

According to Kentucky's state health department statistics regarding COVID-19, a total of 285,358 people were tested statewide since the outbreak of the pandemic, amounting in 472 deaths at this point. A total of 11,476 people tested positive for coronavirus and 3,359 recovered. But Beshear noted Monday that black residents of Kentucky, a large percentage of whom live in the greater Louisville metro area, died at a much higher rate than people from other communities.

"In our health care system, the inequality of our system have been laid bare by the coronavirus pandemic," Beshear continued. "By allowing this type of inequality to exist for as long as it has, we see African-Americans dying at twice the rate that they make up of the population. That simply cannot be allowed to continue any longer. It shouldn't have taken this kind of pandemic and it shouldn't have taken these types of demonstrations for us to commit to ending it."

It doesn't seem fair at face value, but when you have a minority group dying at a faster rate due to lack of access, then the proposal is justified in rectifying those inequalities. However, this is without knowing how the virus is affecting hispanics, whites, and other minorities at the poverty level.

That being said, I'd rather have universal healthcare and be done with our privatized system.

how black do you have to be to qualify? what about mixed race individuals?

@comp_atkins: What if I self identify as black? All good questions

But entire populations in Blue states pay for Red States and you don't mind.

Hmmm....

Huh? I'm pretty sure people in red states pay taxes.

So it's safe to assume you are on board with this.

I'm not on board with this, just pointing out you don't happen to have a problem when its Blue States citizens paying for people in Red States, with extremely lopsided results:

https://apnews.com/2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c/AP-FACT-CHECK:-Blue-high-tax-states-fund-red-low-tax-states?fbclid=IwAR0pKrK2b49loryvj6FC0wxBDZMYrSPrnccu8_2oUgX7uc6o0g97WJXbLRQ

Which, numbers wise, is worse than the scenario you described in the OP, and has already been happening for a while.

That's because your argument is completely off topic and disengenious at best.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thecentersquare.com/new_york/comparing-red-blue-state-federal-bailout-money-is-a-false-comparison-economists-analysts-argue/article_2cf5be9e-909f-11ea-8ba8-6be4f7f0a376.amp.html

@Chutebox: You can’t choose to be a race you are not physically apart of. I can’t just one day decide to be Asian. Either you are black or are not, you can’t just decide to self identify as one.

@thegreatchomp said:@Chutebox: You can’t you choose to be a race you are not physically apart of. I can’t just one day decide to be Asian. Either you are black or are not, you can’t just decide to self identify as one.

Thank you for the much needed clarification.

@comp_atkins: That is a valid question. What about half black people?

They get half healthcare.

@mattbbpl: Booooo!

Well I thought the same thing about gender but apparently that's not true.

@wervenom: Gender and sexual preference can vary, race is something you are born with and can’t change. Two different things.

@thegreatchomp: lmao!

@wervenom: How many alts do you have Xabiss? Be a man, post under your original account!

@thegreatchomp: I'm no alt bud.

Ok, folks....it is now OK to say 'All lives matter' in this context.

But only this one time.

Slightly off topic, yes. True and I'm sorry about that.

But I've seen so many times when people cry and whine about handouts, meanwhile the biggest handouts overall go to Red States and Counties. It's just a glaring hypocrisy that kinda irks me. And again I'm sorry but I truly do believe that is somewhat relevant to this thread.

I do not find it disingenuous at all to repeat what multiple fact checks have stated. Neither of which have been refuted. All I see is excuses for why that fact exists rather than saying those facts are incorrect.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/states-that-voted-for-trump-depend-the-most-on-big-government-2019-06-19

I though that was Blackhairhero and R-Gamer. They pop up days if not hours after his bans. Same exact far right arguments/debates too.

Misleading thread from an overtly racist poster.

Beshear stated he's working to ensure the black community is fully covered, not that he is providing free healthcare to the entire black community.

Crawl back to the hole you spawned from already.

“My commitment today is we are gonna begin an effort to cover 100 percent of our individuals in our black and African-American communities, everybody” the Democrat governor said. “We’re gonna be putting dollars behind it.”

Either argue the point or shut up. How is posting news racist? Reading comprehension isn't your strong point apparently.

@zaryia: They also match Xabiss and defend him regularly.

@wervenom: Sure bud.

I'm just stating the obvious, your posting history speaks for itself and this desperation to villainize efforts working towards systemic equality only further demonstrates it.

And there's no point to argue because you have no point. You spoke incorrectly in the thread title about what was being stated in order to mislead and make the governor look bad for the statement, when in fact what he said does not equate to free health care. You've twisted what he said into something he didn't to make an issue out of nothing and make him and the community he's advocating for look bad.

Im not sure how this equates to giving free healthcare to one race.

Natives have free healthcare as well due to the past transgressions done to them. So I am not seeing anything wrong if Afro Americans would get free healthcare, too, considering not lesser transgressions have they suffered. Seems only fair.

Besides concept of free healthcare is only shocking for Murica. Many countries have it for everyone, like Canada, for example 😂

Actually I believe what he said is he wants Medicare, Medicaid, or Private Insurance coverage for all residents of Kentucky and that he wants to prioritize finding/identifying the portion of black and Afro American population who currently do not have any coverage first and deal with that by 'putting some money behind it'. How exactly that happens is not clear. Also he believes that healthcare is a universal right and says he wants that for all his state residents. And he says his prioritization is based upon historic inequality.

Those are the actual facts which you can read the transcript of here: https://www.npr.org/2020/06/09/873377543/governor-promises-to-provide-free-health-care-for-all-black-kentuckians-who-need

Hmm at first I was completely opposed to this, but after reading more It does make a bit more sense.

None

I live in KY and this is the truth, but right wing media outlets took this way out of proportion (Like always)

this is weird

@drlostrib: Lol, right?