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#1 YukoAsho
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This is NOT how I thought Christmas Day would start.

While it's too early to point to a motive, police and FBI have said it was an intentional act... Though it's pretty obvious that it was intentional if they put loudspeakers on the RV to warn people to get out.

Also telling that it apparently was in front of an AT&T building, and it seems to have resulted in service outages for hundreds in the Louisville metro area, including Nashville air-traffic control. For those unaware, AT&T is the owner of Warner Media, the parent company of CNN.

Again, it's way too early to talk motive, but what could be the reason for such an attack? Is it terrorism, or a cover-up for another crime happening elsewhere in Nashville?

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#2 horgen  Moderator
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Anyone pissed at AT&T?

Wounded? Casualties?

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I am wondering how the media will cover this if its a muslim it will be in for weeks as a terrorist attack and if its some white guy it’s mental issues so which one will it be

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#4  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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If it's a Trump supporter it will be predictable.

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@warmblur said:

If it's a Trump supporter it will be predictable.

And taking any opportunity to whine about Trump is rather predictable as well.

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I’m curious why they were warning people with a loudspeaker if it was an intentional attack, you would think they’d try to get the RV through more subtly in order to harm more victims.

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#7 deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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@eoten said:
@warmblur said:

If it's a Trump supporter it will be predictable.

And taking any opportunity to whine about Trump is rather predictable as well.

Same with defending his diaper ass.

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@warmblur said:
@eoten said:
@warmblur said:

If it's a Trump supporter it will be predictable.

And taking any opportunity to whine about Trump is rather predictable as well.

Same with defending his diaper ass.

Just against irrational, whiny, and baseless nonsense that doesn't do anything for the conversation.

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@ratchetclank92 said:

I’m curious why they were warning people with a loudspeaker if it was an intentional attack, you would think they’d try to get the RV through more subtly in order to harm more victims.

Well clearly it was intentional if they had the loudspeaker warning people. But people themselves weren't the target. Perhaps there was something at the site they wanted to destroy, or a person, or group of people wanted to send a message of what they were capable of doing. People do not always have to be the target of an intentional bombing.

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@ratchetclank92 said:

I’m curious why they were warning people with a loudspeaker if it was an intentional attack, you would think they’d try to get the RV through more subtly in order to harm more victims.

I believe someone saw something suspicious about the vehicle and the bomb squad got called in who evacuated the area. I think that was their warning, not the bomb makers' coming from the vehicle.

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#14  Edited By Eoten
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@mrbojangles25 said:

Statistically speaking it's probably an American. Just sayin'...

@sheep99 said:

I am wondering how the media will cover this if its a muslim it will be in for weeks as a terrorist attack and if its some white guy it’s mental issues so which one will it be

It's some stupid American nationalist or conspiracy theorist; either a far-right nutcase trying to take down "fake news for helping to steal the election", or a libertarian nutjob thinking it's their job to do this for some reason.

If it is a Muslim (or liberal) I'll come back here and eat crow (@eoten I expect you to hold me accountable :D ), but I'm confident enough it likely isn't to say the above. Islamic terrorists target Americans, they don't try to avoid American casualties by announcing a bomb threat before it happens.

As for your overall point, the US government has said repeatedly (just not overly publicly) that domestic, right-wing terrorism is a greater threat than Islamic extremism; your notion that we are still blaming brown-skinned muslims and not white-skinned americans is misguided.

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@ratchetclank92 said:

I’m curious why they were warning people with a loudspeaker if it was an intentional attack, you would think they’d try to get the RV through more subtly in order to harm more victims.

Well clearly it was intentional if they had the loudspeaker warning people. But people themselves weren't the target. Perhaps there was something at the site they wanted to destroy, or a person, or group of people wanted to send a message of what they were capable of doing. People do not always have to be the target of an intentional bombing.

Right, which is why I feel this is a bunch of "patriots" (re: nationalists) that want to blow up the building of something they consider anti-american, and not actually blow up people. Like "We want to take back our country, not kill people!" sort of deal.

Or a disgruntled ex employee.

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Lets leave any theory about who did it and why until we know more.

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I can't understand why anyone would think this was the work of muslim terrorists. Muslims terrorists would not have given any warning in an attempt to reduce human casualties. They're M.O. is to create as many dead infidels as possible.

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#17 LJS9502_basic
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They released part of the audio. Seems to have been a white woman involved. Take that as you want.

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#18 deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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@eoten said:
@warmblur said:
@eoten said:
@warmblur said:

If it's a Trump supporter it will be predictable.

And taking any opportunity to whine about Trump is rather predictable as well.

Same with defending his diaper ass.

Just against irrational, whiny, and baseless nonsense that doesn't do anything for the conversation.

You're the one whining when you replied you couldn't stand the fact that I was putting down your dirty diaper Donald.

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#19 deactivated-628e6669daebe
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Eoten is my main suspect atm.

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#20 Eoten
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@warmblur said:
@eoten said:
@warmblur said:
@eoten said:
@warmblur said:

If it's a Trump supporter it will be predictable.

And taking any opportunity to whine about Trump is rather predictable as well.

Same with defending his diaper ass.

Just against irrational, whiny, and baseless nonsense that doesn't do anything for the conversation.

You're the one whining when you replied you couldn't stand the fact that I was putting down your dirty diaper Donald.

And Trump and his supporters seem to be all you can think about. You're obsessed.

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@comeonman said:

I can't understand why anyone would think this was the work of muslim terrorists. Muslims terrorists would not have given any warning in an attempt to reduce human casualties. They're M.O. is to create as many dead infidels as possible.

This is true, and I agree.

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#22 SheevPalpamemes
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It was the jedi order. They’re taking over.

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@ghost_of_phobos said:

Eoten is my main suspect atm.

lol

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@eoten said:
@warmblur said:
@eoten said:
@warmblur said:
@eoten said:

And taking any opportunity to whine about Trump is rather predictable as well.

Same with defending his diaper ass.

Just against irrational, whiny, and baseless nonsense that doesn't do anything for the conversation.

You're the one whining when you replied you couldn't stand the fact that I was putting down your dirty diaper Donald.

And Trump and his supporters seem to be all you can think about. You're obsessed.

I'm not the one in the cult.

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#25 YearoftheSnake5
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This is a weird one, as people were warned before the bomb went off. The usual intention of making a bomb like this is to kill as many people as possible. Still, I hope the FBI tracks down those responsible soon.

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@eoten said:
@mrbojangles25 said:

Statistically speaking it's probably an American. Just sayin'...

@sheep99 said:

I am wondering how the media will cover this if its a muslim it will be in for weeks as a terrorist attack and if its some white guy it’s mental issues so which one will it be

It's some stupid American nationalist or conspiracy theorist; either a far-right nutcase trying to take down "fake news for helping to steal the election", or a libertarian nutjob thinking it's their job to do this for some reason.

If it is a Muslim (or liberal) I'll come back here and eat crow (@eoten I expect you to hold me accountable :D ), but I'm confident enough it likely isn't to say the above. Islamic terrorists target Americans, they don't try to avoid American casualties by announcing a bomb threat before it happens.

As for your overall point, the US government has said repeatedly (just not overly publicly) that domestic, right-wing terrorism is a greater threat than Islamic extremism; your notion that we are still blaming brown-skinned muslims and not white-skinned americans is misguided.

@eoten said:
@ratchetclank92 said:

I’m curious why they were warning people with a loudspeaker if it was an intentional attack, you would think they’d try to get the RV through more subtly in order to harm more victims.

Well clearly it was intentional if they had the loudspeaker warning people. But people themselves weren't the target. Perhaps there was something at the site they wanted to destroy, or a person, or group of people wanted to send a message of what they were capable of doing. People do not always have to be the target of an intentional bombing.

Right, which is why I feel this is a bunch of "patriots" (re: nationalists) that want to blow up the building of something they consider anti-american, and not actually blow up people. Like "We want to take back our country, not kill people!" sort of deal.

Or a disgruntled ex employee.

Or that too. It probably is that, actually, would be the simplest explanation.

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We can speculate and generalize all we want. We don't know who did it and their motives. I'd rather refrain from giving out opinions until law enforcement concludes their investigation and the media reports the news.

Then we can critique and talk about everything afterwards. ;)

Aside from that, this reminds me of how the Irish Republican Army's way of conducting terrorism. Perhaps it's a lone wolf operation or perhaps its things to come. Either way, we'll see what happens.

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#28  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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It feels very Jigsaw.

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#29 LJS9502_basic
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I'm hearing they are leaning toward suicide bombing. They are looking for someone that had the RV in their yard.

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#30 RonaldReagan2
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Sounds like some liberal mad because they fear Trump is gonna get 4 more.

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#31  Edited By Eoten
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It seems there is a very good suspect already. A man, in his 60s, recently lost two family members, isn't married, no children of his own, and may have recently lost his job as well. The depression and stress of that seem like very power motive for suicide. It's been reported that the ATF and FBI raided his residence and on street view, images of the home clearly show the same RV. Neighbors said the RV went missing a couple days ago, and hasn't been seen since, nor has the suspect, so he's very likely the "human remains" that they found. Also, ownership of his home had been transferred to someone else recently for $0. He gave it away.

Other evidence in the video has more of a rapid swoosh sound just before the feed cuts out rather than a bang, and the black soot covering the site, and relatively low energy explosion for the suspected composition of the explosive would suggest the air/fuel mixture was too rich, resulting in ejecting a lot of unburnt fuel that resulted in the fires that happened afterwards, so this person wasn't an expert at making bombs, but a complete amateur. This would be consistent with someone who isn't a terrorist at all, which reinforces the suicide theory.

So it doesn't seem like there is anything political going on here. I doubt he's affiliated with any groups, I doubt he was Muslim, and I doubt any political affiliations have anything to do with it. Everything points to a suicide, and a means to bring attention to it.

The question that doesn't seem to be answered though is why an AT&T building. I think I read somewhere the suspect may have used to work in IT, and he still worked recently in a technical field. If it was just a random suicide to bring attention to, he could have just as easily blew himself up in an empty lot.

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soooo trump pardons incoming?

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I feel like this was supposed to go off last night. That area would have been primed with lots of shoppers and people outside last evening. This morning? Only people living in the apartment and so far only 3 have been sent to the hospital with minor cuts and abrasions. One of my Nephew stays in Nashville but wasn't close to the sight of the bombing, so he's okay, me and my family was all worried for a sec but everyone's okay.

If I had to take a guess, it smells like this was going to be another Boston bombing event.

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@davillain- said:

I feel like this was supposed to go off last night. That area would have been primed with lots of shoppers and people outside last evening. This morning? Only people living in the apartment and so far only 3 have been sent to the hospital with minor cuts and abrasions. One of my Nephew stays in Nashville but wasn't close to the sight of the bombing, so he's okay, me and my family was all worried for a sec but everyone's okay.

If I had to take a guess, it smells like this was going to be another Boston bombing event.

Then why would he broadcast a message to evacuate over a loud speaker if his goal was a high body count?

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Knew it was a liberal!

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@ronaldreagan2 said:

Knew it was a liberal!

Conspiracy theorist..........

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#37 RonaldReagan2
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@LJS9502_basic: Do you even know what that is?

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@ronaldreagan2 said:

@LJS9502_basic: Do you even know what that is?

Typical insults from the right.......

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@LJS9502_basic: STOP IT!!’

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@eoten said:
@warmblur said:
@eoten said:
@warmblur said:

If it's a Trump supporter it will be predictable.

And taking any opportunity to whine about Trump is rather predictable as well.

Same with defending his diaper ass.

Just against irrational, whiny, and baseless nonsense that doesn't do anything for the conversation.

"baseless nonsense?". oh, you mean like your claims that there was massive election fraud?

your hypocrisy is pathetic and sad.

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#42 lamprey263
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Should this get an update?

Apparently guy was big on conspiracies of world being run by a cabal of satanic worshipping reptilian shape-shifters and such, and possibly one of those anti-5G paranoids... in other words, Trump supporter.

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#43  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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@lamprey263 said:

Should this get an update?

Apparently guy was big on conspiracies of world being run by a cabal of satanic worshipping reptilian shape-shifters and such, and possibly one of those anti-5G paranoids... in other words, Trump supporter.

LMAO I called it.

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@lamprey263 said:

Should this get an update?

Apparently guy was big on conspiracies of world being run by a cabal of satanic worshipping reptilian shape-shifters and such, and possibly one of those anti-5G paranoids... in other words, Trump supporter.

The police were warned as well, weren't they?

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@horgen said:

The police were warned as well, weren't they?

Yes, they were warned that he was building explosives in his RV, but didn't search it. They really botched this one.

So far, no specific motive has been identified for the bombing. The guy was clearly disturbed. From what I understand, he blew himself up in the blast and the idea was to cause more destruction than death.

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@YearoftheSnake5: @horgen:

Yeah, I had heard his girlfriend called police on him I think I heard a year ago and went to check up on him but he wasn't home and they shut the door on that.

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#47  Edited By mrbojangles25
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This is so sad because, once again, this could have been prevented; we have government, intelligence, and law enforcement dropping the ball.

Apparently police were notified of his bomb-making activities and they went to look, but as his RV was encircled by a fence and he was not home, they basically said "must be nothing" and moved on. Do you need warrants in these situations? "Bomb making" seems like one of those instances where you kick down doors.

We live in an age where kids will "SWAT" people as a prank and get police kicking down doors, but we can't go check out a bomb lab in an RV?

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#48  Edited By SUD123456
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Nothing to see here. Whack job. Loner. Nothing to live for. Wanted to make a suicide statement and screwed that up because....nothing. Therein lies the problem with nihilism.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

This is so sad because, once again, this could have been prevented; we have government, intelligence, and law enforcement dropping the ball.

Apparently police were notified of his bomb-making activities and they went to look, but as his RV was encircled by a fence and he was not home, they basically said "must be nothing" and moved on. Do you need warrants in these situations? "Bomb making" seems like one of those instances where you kick down doors.

We live in an age where kids will "SWAT" people as a prank and get police kicking down doors, but we can't go check out a bomb lab in an RV?

Yep you need a warrant. If cops can see a crime in progress they can bust in but if no one was home then no crime is happening. Not sure why they didn't try again though.

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@SUD123456 said:

Nothing to see here. Whack job. Loner. Nothing to live for. Wanted to make a suicide statement and screwed that up because....nothing. Therein lies the problem with nihilism.

Nothing wrong with nihilism as long as you can be optimistic about it.

If nothing matters, then why not have fun? Just follow the golden rule and all is well.

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