This man literally linked a Steven Crowder video.
Schools without mask mandate 3.5 times more likely to have COVID-19 outbreaks: CDC study
@xdude85: I found myself laughing at it too.
- Rejecting a Systematic Review heavily backed the single most respected Medical Organization worldwide.
- Links a YouTube vlog from a layman, who has had a long and storied history of being wrong.
I may consider responding to that garbage video of his, if he actually tries to refute the Systemic Review I linked. But we both know that isn't happening.
Not everyone should get a shot. There are people who have natural immunity, there are the people who have already had Covid, and there are those who are being treated for a disease that requires an infusion of drugs in which the Covid shot will become deadly. When it comes to the Covid shots one size does not fit all. If you have had the shot an unvaccinated person is no threat to your health. Look at all the unvaccinated illegals coming into the US the government doesn't consider them a health risk why should an unvaccinated American be considered a health risk.
@xdude85 said:
Eoten is a legit psychopath. Goddamn, why do you guys even entertain this nutjob?
His whole stance is literally, "Covid isn't that bad because it literally doesn't kill EVERYONE."
Nearly 5 million people have died (possibly more), and he's creating a strawman just so he can win an argument on the internet.
The thing about Eoten, and people who are like him, is that they probably don't even believe the stupid shit they say, they just say it because they think it will give them the advantage in the argument.
The way you normally debate is, "When I'm presented with a truth, I will believe it, and will therefore defend it."
Eoten on the other hand, is operating on, "I'm defending it because I believe it, so therefore, it must be true."
This line of thinking is what happens when you spend all your free time debating and arguing with people on 4chan and Reddit.
Do you actually have a valid response? Or just more whining in lieu of one? I get it, when you actually realize Covid has killed fewer children then virtually every other cause of death, far less than common pneumonia, it becomes pretty clear how ridiculous and anti science school mask mandates actually are. That is the truth you are being presented in, and will not believe, and why you freak out when I asked you to say the number. How many children have died due to Covid?
@Ballroompirate said:
@xdude85: Whatever you say sheep, can't have tens of thousands of bs amounts of people in your head when survival rate of the virus is 98.4%
Go back drinking your soy milk
What is this crap I'm seeing? Something something is worse so let's let the virus run unchecked. That's an unhinged ideology right there.
@JimB said:
@JimB said:
@horgen said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
Masks don't harm anyone. As I recall kids willingly wear them on Halloween.
They seem to harm the self esteem of many conservatives.
You would go to any lengths to support something even if it hurts children for a political outcome.
https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2021/8/13/22623659/requiring-kids-to-wear-masks-all-day-at-school-does-more-harm-than-good-utah
found out why they the off sore the site buyer.
site is owned by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Ballroompirate said:
@xdude85: Whatever you say sheep, can't have tens of thousands of bs amounts of people in your head when survival rate of the virus is 98.4%
Go back drinking your soy milk
What is this crap I'm seeing? Something something is worse so let's let the virus run unchecked. That's an unhinged ideology right there.
You actually think not forcing fabric over a child's face is unhinged and letting a virus that is virtually harmless to them run "unchecked?" ROFLMAO, okay. This is about your own fears than their health. Let's be real.
@eoten said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Ballroompirate said:
@xdude85: Whatever you say sheep, can't have tens of thousands of bs amounts of people in your head when survival rate of the virus is 98.4%
Go back drinking your soy milk
What is this crap I'm seeing? Something something is worse so let's let the virus run unchecked. That's an unhinged ideology right there.
You actually think not forcing fabric over a child's face is unhinged and letting a virus that is virtually harmless to them run "unchecked?" ROFLMAO, okay. This is about your own fears than their health. Let's be real.
Your reading comprehension sucks. ROFLMAO.
How many child Covid deaths do you actually think there are in the US? And none of this "one is too many" attempt to make an argument based on emotion. Tell me, how many.
Your arguments on Covid in every thread (including this one) about masks and vaccines are based entirely on emotions, as you can not find citation and appear to be spamming opinions. Mine are based off of expert recommendations and peer reviewed studies, and I spam facts. The difference is night and day. We are opposites.
To answer your question, 517 and growing due to Delta. With thousands more left with long term symptoms each week. And an untold number of people infected by them, via circulation.
I do not care about your emotions or opinions. I need you to cite medical organizations and peer reviewed studies that suggest children should not wear masks. I have only seem them saying the benefits outweigh the risks, and children should wear masks.
If you want to continue this "argument", It's high time that I need verified info from you. Not your emotions from a Q-Anon facebook post you saw. The citation has to say what you're saying and be from a medical group or peer reviewed study, and not your emotional interpretations. You are not a medical professional, nor hold any relevant degrees. What you are saying goes against what most groups and experts are saying.
So I'm going to need the receipts now, enough is enough.
@Ballroompirate said:
Damn it must suck to be in fear over nothing
[Stephen Crowder Video]
This is trolling or satire right?
I think he's trying to meme on Eoten. Little does he know his satirical posts aren't even as bad as that guy.
@eoten said:
@xdude85 said:
Eoten is a legit psychopath. Goddamn, why do you guys even entertain this nutjob?
Do you actually have a valid response?
He's responding to the general posts regarding Covid you made ITT. You didn't mention Children in a few of your posts, and used full US population numbers. You were highly misleading and even lying, and were literally scoffing off 700k deaths and 2,000 daily deaths.
Xdude's description of you was quite accurate. Gong straight up by dictionary definition's.
@LJS9502_basic said:
@eoten said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Ballroompirate said:
@xdude85: Whatever you say sheep, can't have tens of thousands of bs amounts of people in your head when survival rate of the virus is 98.4%
Go back drinking your soy milk
What is this crap I'm seeing? Something something is worse so let's let the virus run unchecked. That's an unhinged ideology right there.
You actually think not forcing fabric over a child's face is unhinged and letting a virus that is virtually harmless to them run "unchecked?" ROFLMAO, okay. This is about your own fears than their health. Let's be real.
Your reading comprehension sucks. ROFLMAO.
His everything sucks in Covid threads. Every word he is saying is not supported by any medical group or peer reviewed study.
The guy is lying in every single subjective sentence. And nearly all of his sentences are subjective, unsupported opinions at best. He'll post a number from the CDC, then make up his own conclusion from said number. Even though his source, the CDC, say the complete opposite from that same number. So basically his lone opinion over and over.
I'd need Eoten to post his Virology PHD if he wants to continue to not post sources. It's getting out of hand at this point with the lies.
@Ballroompirate said:
@Maroxad: Someone dies from heart disease every 40 sec in the US, there's over 3,500 car crash deaths (globally) every day or over 1 million a year yet you don't see people go to extreme lengths to prevent those deaths. Also lets not even get into lung cancer deaths due to smoking.
Literally majority of these deaths from Covid are people who are 60+ years old or people who have serious health issues like auto immune disease.
Also if unless you're rocking a N95 mask you ain't protecting shit kid specially if you're wearing a surgical mask for 8+ hours a day, you do realize that not even nurses are suppose to wear them for more than an hour or two at a time till they have to change. If you ask why, it's simple with all of the dust, bacteria, germs and that poison we breath out called carbon dioxide gets stuck on that mask. Which btw for us who live in cold states during the winter I'll give you a little science test, what happens to carbon dioxide when it meets cold air. Answer is it turns into water droplets in your damn fraking mask which ruin the damn thing.
Also did you just link a study from WHO lol?, not only WHO but a study that they did in China......who already lied about their Covid infection numbers and deaths. But hey somehow ground zero only got away with 4k deaths so if you want to believe that then go ahead.
Lastly if you wanna take a drug that only took 7 months to role out and got "emergency" approval by the FDA, which btw the FDA takes on average 5 years for it to be deemed "safe" for even simple drugs. So feel free to suffer those side affects for the rest of your life. I'll stick to the 98.6% survival rate virus which ironically has a better survival rate than cancer, yet we treat covid like it's the black plague or spanish flu.
I do admit though I am getting a kick out of all these people who got the jab and are still getting covid
There are more people in Asia than in New York. Comparing heart disease to covid makes that much sense.
@vl4d_l3nin said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
L O L
Yea, 700k dead. More than all combined US military deaths in the last 150 years. It's OK, I expect as much from a liar such as yourself.
Average age of covid deaths is 73.
All Lives Matter! (Unless you're old, brown, or a woman).
This is delicious coming from the pro-life crowd. Thanks for outing yourself as morally bankrupt.
@Ballroompirate: Stephen Crowder. The perfect man for low IQ and low information voters.
@zaryia said: @eoten said:
How many child Covid deaths do you actually think there are in the US? And none of this "one is too many" attempt to make an argument based on emotion. Tell me, how many.
Your arguments on Covid in every thread (including this one) about masks and vaccines are based entirely on emotions, as you can not find citation and appear to be spamming opinions. Mine are based off of expert recommendations and peer reviewed studies, and I spam facts. The difference is night and day. We are opposites.
To answer your question, 517 and growing due to Delta. With thousands more left with long term symptoms each week. And an untold number of people infected by them, via circulation.
I do not care about your emotions or opinions. I need you to cite medical organizations and peer reviewed studies that suggest children should not wear masks. I have only seem them saying the benefits outweigh the risks, and children should wear masks.
If you want to continue this "argument", It's high time that I need verified info from you. Not your emotions from a Q-Anon facebook post you saw. The citation has to say what you're saying and be from a medical group or peer reviewed study, and not your emotional interpretations. You are not a medical professional, nor hold any relevant degrees. What you are saying goes against what most groups and experts are saying.
So I'm going to need the receipts now, enough is enough.
You haven't made an argument yet that isn't purely based on emotion. You actually think Covid is a large risk to children ffs. No science anywhere supports that. You can look up the death rate broken down by age groups yourself. I've already posted them before on here so clearly you didn't read them the first time.
@eoten said:
you didn't read them the first time.
False. You never gave me CITATION for your directclaims in ANY Covid thread, much less this one. Can you not find a medical group or study that says children should not wear masks in schools?
See, you're giving me your OPINION of real numbers, which experts (who you ironically get the numbers from) completely disagree with. That's called arm-chair science. Engaging in arm-chair science is dumb when so many experts disagree with your contrarian opinion.
@eoten said:
You haven't made an argument yet that isn't purely based on emotion.
This is objectively false and gas lighting. I'm literally just citing experts recommendations and peer reviewed studies. You're citing yourself, or whatever psychopath GED Q-Anon youtuber you are parroting.
Here's just a sample,
Face Masks (aap.org)
The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) strongly endorses the use of safe and effective infection control procedures to protect children and adolescents. During the COVID-19 pandemic, effective infection prevention and control requires the correct and consistent use of awell-fitting face mask. Face masks shouldfitover the mouth and nose and fit snugly along the side of the face without any gaps.
Guidance for COVID-19 Prevention in K-12 Schools | CDC
Given new evidence on the B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant, CDC has updated theguidance for fully vaccinated people. CDC recommends universal indoor masking for all teachers, staff, students, and visitors to K-12 schools, regardless of vaccination status. Children should return to full-time in-person learning in the fall with layered prevention strategies in place.
COVID Data Tracker Weekly Review | CDC
However, weekly rates of hospitalizations due to COVID-19 have recently increased in children ages 11 years and younger. In fact, these hospitalization rates are the highest they have been since the start of the pandemic. The increases come as many schools across the country have resumed in-person learning.
I would love for you to provide links from a verified source directly stating otherwise. Good luck googling, heh.
@eoten said:
You actually think Covid is a large risk to children ffs.
I never said this. I understand it must feel bad to lose debates, but lying never helps.
I said they should wear masks because the benefits outweigh the risks, to reduce spread, to reduce deaths, and to reduce disease. These are all facts, and several medical groups recommend masks for these facts.
I would frankly be delighted if you can find sources saying what you're saying and directly disagree with the CDC, AHA, AAP, WHO, etc. But expecting to see a red underlined text in your next post unlikely, it never happens. Even you know you're wrong.
Sounds about right. Our kids' school allows them to unmask with their "cohort", which is around 10 kids who always sit near each other. I like this, as they get to see facial cues, while still taking some precautions.
Last school year we had one or two cases, but neither of them spread to anyone else fortunately.
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@vl4d_l3nin said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
L O L
Yea, 700k dead. More than all combined US military deaths in the last 150 years. It's OK, I expect as much from a liar such as yourself.
Average age of covid deaths is 73.
All Lives Matter! (Unless you're old, brown, or a woman).
This is delicious coming from the pro-life crowd. Thanks for outing yourself as morally bankrupt.
What's funny is they are only against Vaccines/Masks because of the political party they happen to be in.
Sounds like a Death Cult to me.
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@Ballroompirate: Stephen Crowder. The perfect man for low IQ and low information voters.
It must suck if he has a higher IQ than you XD
@LJS9502_basic: Lol ok kid, lets screw up our kids even more cause kids like you are already screwed up XD
@Maroxad said:
@xdude85: I found myself laughing at it too.
- Rejecting a Systematic Review heavily backed the single most respected Medical Organization worldwide.
- Links a YouTube vlog from a layman, who has had a long and storied history of being wrong.
I may consider responding to that garbage video of his, if he actually tries to refute the Systemic Review I linked. But we both know that isn't happening.
Funny cause people are still linking trash from the NY post/Washington post who have spew bs and propaganda. Oh and lets not forget how many times the CDC has been wrong about this "plague", remember when they wanted people to triple mask? good times. Oh and hows your god Fauci doing? you know the guy who just got slammed for lying and showing false information XD.
Oh and its pretty sad that Crowder actually links to his information, something the like the crap you read doesn't lol.
@Ballroompirate: Always find those calling other's kid are the kids.
@Ballroompirate said:
@LJS9502_basic: Lol ok kid, lets screw up our kids even more cause kids like you are already screwed up XD
@Maroxad said:
@xdude85: I found myself laughing at it too.
- Rejecting a Systematic Review heavily backed the single most respected Medical Organization worldwide.
- Links a YouTube vlog from a layman, who has had a long and storied history of being wrong.
I may consider responding to that garbage video of his, if he actually tries to refute the Systemic Review I linked. But we both know that isn't happening.
Funny cause people are still linking trash from the NY post/Washington post who have spew bs and propaganda. Oh and lets not forget how many times the CDC has been wrong about this "plague", remember when they wanted people to triple mask? good times. Oh and hows your god Fauci doing? you know the guy who just got slammed for lying and showing false information XD.
Oh and its pretty sad that Crowder actually links to his information, something the like the crap you read doesn't lol.
I'm hoping this is a troll. I feel bad for USA.
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Ballroompirate: Always find those calling other's kid are the kids.
Funny thing is kids believe what ever they are told and never question what they are told, so scooch kid.
@Ballroompirate said:
@LJS9502_basic: Lol ok kid, lets screw up our kids even more cause kids like you are already screwed up XD
@Maroxad said:
@xdude85: I found myself laughing at it too.
- Rejecting a Systematic Review heavily backed the single most respected Medical Organization worldwide.
- Links a YouTube vlog from a layman, who has had a long and storied history of being wrong.
I may consider responding to that garbage video of his, if he actually tries to refute the Systemic Review I linked. But we both know that isn't happening.
Funny cause people are still linking trash from the NY post/Washington post who have spew bs and propaganda. Oh and lets not forget how many times the CDC has been wrong about this "plague", remember when they wanted people to triple mask? good times. Oh and hows your god Fauci doing? you know the guy who just got slammed for lying and showing false information XD.
Oh and its pretty sad that Crowder actually links to his information, something the like the crap you read doesn't lol.
Fauci isn't even my Epidemiologist...
Crowder reads articles, but because he is scientifically illiterate, which is fine, because he is not a scientist, engineer or medical worker. He often gets the articles wrong or fails to properly vet his own sources properly (iirc, some of his sources originated from the blogosphere). Problem with Crowder is that he then puts his misinterpretions out there as if they were facts, and then refuses to own up to his mistakes when people who actually know what they are talking about prove him wrong. He is a massive coward too, chickening away from both Sam Ceder and Potholer. How anyone can take that clown seriously is beyond me.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/louder-with-crowder/
The Scientific Paper I linked, DID cite its sources, it has to, as it is a Systematic Review. Do you know what a Systematic Review is?
@zaryia said:
What's funny is they are only against Vaccines/Masks because of the political party they happen to be in.
Sounds like a Death Cult to me.
Very convenient, isnt it...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/george-bush-2005-wait-pandemic-late-prepare/story?id=69979013
@Maroxad: And your sources are better??? lol ok sheep. The irony is when he gets something wrong he owns it, when was the last time Fox, CNN, Washington Post, NY Post or any other MSM owned their mistakes....oh wait they never do cause they don't care XD
So what Crowder isn't a scientist??? that means jack shit, you have to be a scientist to report on the lack of ICU beds? are you that dumb. You know whats funny though is he literally does the same crap you do. Finds information on said topics and reports on them, I guess the crap you post is as much truth as his then.
But hey lets trust that scientist dude who totally doesnt lie or is bought out
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Also I love that "fact check"/ Biased site you linked, makes you wonder how they listed so many trash sites that don't have anything to do with news or my favorite they have a North Korean news site as "least biased"
@xdude85 said:
@Ballroompirate said:
@Maroxad: Someone dies from heart disease every 40 sec in the US, there's over 3,500 car crash deaths (globally) every day or over 1 million a year yet you don't see people go to extreme lengths to prevent those deaths. Also lets not even get into lung cancer deaths due to smoking.
Literally majority of these deaths from Covid are people who are 60+ years old or people who have serious health issues like auto immune disease.
Also if unless you're rocking a N95 mask you ain't protecting shit kid specially if you're wearing a surgical mask for 8+ hours a day, you do realize that not even nurses are suppose to wear them for more than an hour or two at a time till they have to change. If you ask why, it's simple with all of the dust, bacteria, germs and that poison we breath out called carbon dioxide gets stuck on that mask. Which btw for us who live in cold states during the winter I'll give you a little science test, what happens to carbon dioxide when it meets cold air. Answer is it turns into water droplets in your damn fraking mask which ruin the damn thing.
Also did you just link a study from WHO lol?, not only WHO but a study that they did in China......who already lied about their Covid infection numbers and deaths. But hey somehow ground zero only got away with 4k deaths so if you want to believe that then go ahead.
Lastly if you wanna take a drug that only took 7 months to role out and got "emergency" approval by the FDA, which btw the FDA takes on average 5 years for it to be deemed "safe" for even simple drugs. So feel free to suffer those side affects for the rest of your life. I'll stick to the 98.6% survival rate virus which ironically has a better survival rate than cancer, yet we treat covid like it's the black plague or spanish flu.
I do admit though I am getting a kick out of all these people who got the jab and are still getting covid
Utterly psychotic, idiotic strawman right here. I'm sure the tens of thousands of people coughing up their lungs and dying agonizing deaths in the ICU would really like to hear your shitty take that heart disease and car crashes are more serious.
Today in NY 94,000 healthcare workers are going to be fired because they will not take a Covid shot. How many people are going to die because they can't get health care. All because they Democrat governor mandated they must get a Covid shot. That is how the Democrats work kill more people that die from their cure than the disease they are curing. That is how smart the Democrats are.
@JimB: Don't forget the cops who are about to get fired too, also the military is about to do the same thing. Like I'm not even a Republican but god damn Dems are honestly trying to make idiocracy an actual movie instead of a comedy movie
@Ballroompirate: Trump and his GOP goons are already doing that and you are playing along.
Every time I read something like this, I'm reminded why I honestly just can't imagine anyone wanting to be a teacher anymore. On one hand you have parents threatening you for enforcing a mask and blaming you for every single thing their shitty little spawn does, and on the other hand you have a widespread explosion of germs and sickness everyday because kids are trading masks or completely ignoring any new safety rules because their a product of what their bull headed parents taught them.
Add to that the fact that you're forced to teach old ass curriculum that hasn't kept up with the times and you can effectively make more money being a freaking bartender than a teacher, I don't really see any pros to being in the field. That's not really a good sign for the education of future generations, but let's be honest here, the outlooks not so good for them in any department either.
@rmiller365: That is by design. The dumber the people the easier they are to control. Thats why thr GOP attacks education.
@thenation said:
@Ballroompirate: Trump and his GOP goons are already doing that and you are playing along.
First off I don't care about Trump nor liked him.
Secondly Biden is trash at best and is as stupid as the people who voted for him.
@thenation said:
@rmiller365: That is by design. The dumber the people the easier they are to control. Thats why thr GOP attacks education.
this. sums it up
@palasta said:
@zaryia said:
What's funny is they are only against Vaccines/Masks because of the political party they happen to be in.
Sounds like a Death Cult to me.
Very convenient, isnt it...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/george-bush-2005-wait-pandemic-late-prepare/story?id=69979013
I was talking about Covid-19. Today. Specifically. Perhaps read the thread title/op before clicking the thread?
Texas’ white Republicans are the most hesitant of COVID-19 vaccine | The Texas Tribune
POLITICO/Morning Consult Poll: Majority of Americans Reject Republican Anti-Vax Politics | Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Poll Finds Startling Difference in Vaccinations Among US Republicans and Democrats (voanews.com)
Republican Vaccine Denial IS A Political Strategy | Crooked Media
It's mostly Republican. Not to say all Republicans are these crazies.
@Ballroompirate said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Ballroompirate: Always find those calling other's kid are the kids.
Funny thing is kids believe what ever they are told and never question what they are told, so scooch kid.
You need to experience the world not mom's basement.
@Ballroompirate said:
@Maroxad: And your sources are better??? lol ok sheep. The irony is when he gets something wrong he owns it, when was the last time Fox, CNN, Washington Post, NY Post or any other MSM owned their mistakes....oh wait they never do cause they don't care XD
So what Crowder isn't a scientist??? that means jack shit, you have to be a scientist to report on the lack of ICU beds? are you that dumb. You know whats funny though is he literally does the same crap you do. Finds information on said topics and reports on them, I guess the crap you post is as much truth as his then.
But hey lets trust that scientist dude who totally doesnt lie or is bought out
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How could you misintepret what I said so badly? I didnt say the issue was that he wasn't a scientist. I said that the issue was that he is scientifically illiterate. The "he is not a scientist" comment concerns that he doesnt have to be scientifically literate, because his field is comedy.
You will notice that News sources post updates or corrections on their EXISTING articles quite often. At least when they are wrong. MSM has a lot of flaws, but they do a far better job vetting than Stephen Crowder does.
Yes, the sources I tend to link are ACTUAL accredited sources. And good job on using actual reputable sources like The Hill and Today. Way better than actual garbage iwth no journalistic integrity. Unfortunately, the videos you linked concern allegations. And you are still going on about Fauci... even though and I repeat... Fauci is NOT my epidemologist. So it is not the gotcha you may think it is.
Edit: Oh gods, not this rubbish again... a good chunk of Jim Jordan's narrative, including that Doctor, has been refuted over and over, and I dont wanna repeat myself too much, it is just exhausting.
@zaryia said:
@Stevo_the_gamer said:
The hospitalization/death risk to students remains astronomically low however.
But I'd rather it be even lower, as this data shows masks help do. Less people suffering is always a good thing, in my opinion and that of the medical community (hence major groups recommending masks for schools and teachers). The benefits still outweigh these low risks going by most studies. And lets not forget long term symptoms of even those who do not die.
Sure, closer to zero. Eradication is clearly the prime result; as Bane would say however..."admirable, but mistaken." This is clearly a long term investment, exacerbated by vaccine resistance, mutations/widespread infection. I look forward to scientists finding the safe/optimal dose for children 12 and younger however. Until then, with astronomically low numbers for children, parents should be more concerned with the risk of getting them to school. Risk factor from vehicle accidents unquestionably far more pressing.
@Stevo_the_gamer said:
@zaryia said:
@Stevo_the_gamer said:
The hospitalization/death risk to students remains astronomically low however.
But I'd rather it be even lower, as this data shows masks help do. Less people suffering is always a good thing, in my opinion and that of the medical community (hence major groups recommending masks for schools and teachers). The benefits still outweigh these low risks going by most studies. And lets not forget long term symptoms of even those who do not die.
Sure, closer to zero. Eradication is clearly the prime result; as Bane would say however..."admirable, but mistaken." This is clearly a long term investment, exacerbated by vaccine resistance, mutations/widespread infection. I look forward to scientists finding the safe/optimal dose for children 12 and younger however. Until then, with astronomically low numbers for children, parents should be more concerned with the risk of getting them to school. Risk factor from vehicle accidents unquestionably far more pressing.
I believe Pfizer has had good success with one dose containing 1/3 of an adult dose given to kids between 5 and 12.
Sweden has never had a masked mandate. They are doing better than most countries that do have masked mandates.
If in 18 months masked mandates haven't improved anything then it's time to change it up. And if celebrities don't need masks to get awards then kids don't need masks to participate at school.
@wiiboxstation said:
Sweden has never had a masked mandate. They are doing better than most countries that do have masked mandates.
If in 18 months masked mandates haven't improved anything then it's time to change it up. And if celebrities don't need masks to get awards then kids don't need masks to participate at school.
Sweden did worse than most countries. Also, you are wrong. We very much had guidelines, We were very much expected to wear masks when indoors.
Comparing Sweden to the US isnt entirely ideal either. For starters, barely anyone here in sweden attends church. Second guidelines are far more effective. As the virus was never politicized here. So the overwhelming majority adhere to the guidelines so mandates arent necessary.
Source: Being Swedish
@zaryia: the death rate is high and all Fauci and Biden can come up with is to keep vaccinating people. This strategy hasn't worked so far. It's not working in Israel where they have given boosters already. Einstein would call this insanity.
It's time to go to a different approach like Ivermectin used for early treatment.
@wiiboxstation said:
@zaryia: the death rate is high and all Fauci and Biden can come up with is to keep vaccinating people. This strategy hasn't worked so far. It's not working in Israel where they have given boosters already. Einstein would call this insanity.
It's time to go to a different approach like Ivermectin used for early treatment.
Maybe if everyone eligible would get the vaccine it would work. Hard to work when anti vaxxers are also anti mask and go out in public to spread disease.
Ivermectin doesn't work. I see you follow far right propaganda sites for your "news". SMH
@Maroxad: bro you're bashing this guy for posting a Crowder video now your posting fact checking links.
Remember when fact checkers said that Biden didn't check his watch when it was right there on video. They have even less credibility than an idiot like Crowder does.
@wiiboxstation said:
@zaryia: the death rate is high and all Fauci and Biden can come up with is to keep vaccinating people.
Biden, Fauci, and the majority of experts are correct going by the pure data and studies. There is no study I can find that agrees with your anti-science & emotional opinion on this topic.
@wiiboxstation said:
This strategy hasn't worked so far.
This is objectively incorrect,
1. U.S. vaccination campaign prevented up to 279,000 COVID-19 deaths | YaleNews
2. Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated (apnews.com)
It's worked so well that nearly all deaths are from unvaccinated after it was released. Also those who did catch it with the vaccine see significantly reduced disease. The reason the death rate hasn't even further dropped is due to low IQ anti-vaxxers (mostly conservatives) not taking their jab. That's right. It's actually your fault. It's one of the reason mandates were made.
@wiiboxstationsaid:
Einstein would call this insanity.
Einstein would ask why you are denying the facts and science due to your political affiliation.
@wiiboxstation said:
It's time to go to a different approach
The entire medical community disagrees with you and still recommends Vaccines as the best way to fight this. Going by all known facts and studies they are correct.
@wiiboxstation said:
@zaryia: the death rate is high and all Fauci and Biden can come up with is to keep vaccinating people. This strategy hasn't worked so far. It's not working in Israel where they have given boosters already. Einstein would call this insanity.
It's time to go to a different approach like Ivermectin used for early treatment.
L O L
So you're one of THOSE nut jobs then.
@horgen said:
@Stevo_the_gamer said:
@zaryia said:
@Stevo_the_gamer said:
The hospitalization/death risk to students remains astronomically low however.
But I'd rather it be even lower, as this data shows masks help do. Less people suffering is always a good thing, in my opinion and that of the medical community (hence major groups recommending masks for schools and teachers). The benefits still outweigh these low risks going by most studies. And lets not forget long term symptoms of even those who do not die.
Sure, closer to zero. Eradication is clearly the prime result; as Bane would say however..."admirable, but mistaken." This is clearly a long term investment, exacerbated by vaccine resistance, mutations/widespread infection. I look forward to scientists finding the safe/optimal dose for children 12 and younger however. Until then, with astronomically low numbers for children, parents should be more concerned with the risk of getting them to school. Risk factor from vehicle accidents unquestionably far more pressing.
I believe Pfizer has had good success with one dose containing 1/3 of an adult dose given to kids between 5 and 12.
Kids between 5 and 12 don't need it, and if they don't need it, it's irresponsible to inject them with untested drugs so the Pfizer CEO can afford another gold lined swimming pool.
@Maroxad: I've never seen MSM correct their "fact checks" in the last decade so I have no idea where you're pulling that out of your ass. At least Crowder apologizes for his screw ups, hell he even posts his sources on his website, what MSM media does that constantly?.
As for allegations, where have you been the last 4 years?, that's literally all that Dems tried to slam Trump with. The irony though is now there's actual physical evidence of Fauci lying which is the opposite of allegations. Hell I thought Trump was a big orange tool but those allegations got annoying after the first year of literally no evidence.
You don't need a PHD or a Master in Virology to know masks don't work as people want them to do. You can literally test it for yourself if you're not lazy AF. You don't need a PHD or a Master in Virology to report that the BS of "lacking ICU beds" is full of shit when there's no trauma centers being built?
Lets face it you just don't like Crowder cause he's Right Wing XD. Even fence sitters like Tim Pool report the same thing that Crowder does.
@wiiboxstation said:
@zaryia: the death rate is high and all Fauci and Biden can come up with is to keep vaccinating people. This strategy hasn't worked so far. It's not working in Israel where they have given boosters already. Einstein would call this insanity.
It's time to go to a different approach like Ivermectin used for early treatment.
Vaccines have been demonstrated to work. Just look at some of the many threads Zaryia has posted on this very board.
Ivermectin have not been demonstrated to work. There have been a lot of research on the viability of Ivermectin, and with them being quite a mixed bag. Naturally the blogosphere and pudnits picked up all the positive ones while ignoring hte negative ones. This might just seem like shoddy journalism, but sadly it is quite disturbing, because of the ones often selected are pre-prints with pretty much all of them eventually taken down because they are fraudulent. One study did however, get peer reviewed, here it is,
https://media.marinomed.com/8b/7a/c7/nota-journal-of-biomedical-research-safety-adn-efficacy-iota-carrageenan-and-ivermectin.pdf
Have fun debunking this guys :)
Edit: As hard as I am on Ivermectin here, my stance is NOT that Ivermectin doesnt work. Instead my stance is, Ivermectin is thus far, unproven and the evidence for it is flimsy at best, fraudulent at worst. While I hope it works, as of now, it does not look promising. At least Ivermectin does not interfere with your heart patterns like the previous miracle cure did.
@eoten: They arent untested. Stop with that lie, just because you repeat it doesnt mean we will believe it.
@Ballroompirate said:
@Maroxad: I've never seen MSM correct their "fact checks" in the last decade so I have no idea where you're pulling that out of your ass. At least Crowder apologizes for his screw ups, hell he even posts his sources on his website, what MSM media does that constantly?.
As for allegations, where have you been the last 4 years?, that's literally all that Dems tried to slam Trump with. The irony though is now there's actual physical evidence of Fauci lying which is the opposite of allegations. Hell I thought Trump was a big orange tool but those allegations got annoying after the first year of literally no evidence.
You don't need a PHD or a Master in Virology to know masks don't work as people want them to do. You can literally test it for yourself if you're not lazy AF. You don't need a PHD or a Master in Virology to report that the BS of "lacking ICU beds" is full of shit when there's no trauma centers being built?
Lets face it you just don't like Crowder cause he's Right Wing XD. Even fence sitters like Tim Pool report the same thing that Crowder does.
Took me 5 seconds to google this,
https://www.nytimes.com/section/corrections
Those Allegations lead somewhere. The Fauci Allegations haven't lead to anywhere yet.
Literally the academic paper I linked to you earlier this thread disproves your assertion. Repeating lies does not make them any less untrue.
I don't like Kyle Kulinski, Crowder, The Young Turks, Dim Fool, Jimmy Dore, Ben Shapiro or any of the other Vloggers out there. They have nothing of value to add to politics, and do loads of harm, and very little good.
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