So, about tearing down and vandalizing statues and monuments. Should it continue or is there a line?

@Nude_Dude:

I sound white because I want law and order? Pretty racist of you to say that.

No you sound white cause you are only vocally upset when white people face consequences for their racism, and somehow eerily silent when non-whites are oppressed daily.

"Please won't someone think about the statues!"

*another black life lost at the hands of the police

"So how bout that weather today, sure is hot huh"

@Nude_Dude: Am I? Guess I learned something new about myself from a random basement dweller on the interwebs.

Also, it's not actually about the statues. It's about law and order versus anarchy (you know, what you want).

And please don't be racist towards us people of color. We want law and order too.

Bad policy. Communities can decide if they want to remove statues. Not mobs.

It is really odd that there are statues in the US celebrating people that waged war with the US and killed American soldiers. You'd think the President would send the army to tear them down. If he liked America, at least.

Well the Confederate statues I can see coming down. But it's spread beyond that now.

It's not just the US. It's all over the west.

You'd think a statue commemorating troops who invaded, occupied, pillaged, and raped the people of Berlin wouldn't exist there, and yet it does.

I know you love "law and order", you've done nothing but lick the police's boots ever since this started. Keep projecting. Or better yet, from another person of color: go away with your nonsense

@LJS9502_basic: Communities actually do remove the statues in many cases, spearheaded by activists. Latest and most importantly, the roosevelt statue in NY's museum of national history. It's up to you if you want to frame this as a mob justice thing.

@Nude_Dude: Oh, I am a person of color again. Huzzah! I was having an identity crisis there.

This thread went stupid real fast

@Chutebox The point is that even if you ARE what you claim you are (who goes on the internet and posts lies?), your white-ass posts still paint you as disingenuous and a bootlicker as a regular white guy, so again: go away with your nonsense

Law and order isn't something that is exclusive to white people. If we find the statues offensive, then the right thing to do is to go through the legal system to get it taken down. Rioters tearing down statues is not the right way to do it, and now we have people that could be looking at up to ten years in prison for trying to tear down an Andrew Jackson statue, someone that was never a part of the Confederacy.

Also, all of this "defund the police" crap is outrageous. It's more likely to hurt black people in poor neighborhoods than rich white people that live in safe neighborhoods and can pay for their own private security while they continue to virtue signal on Twitter.

It has gone too far, that is for sure.

Leave Andrew Jackson alone.

@Nude_Dude: You have no point. All you do is point at people call them racist,white or both.

Waste.

@ad1x2: awesome. They need to attempt to do it the right way.

@ad1x2: Yep, something else I learned today. Apparently according to him law and order is only white thing. Who knew?

Statues that are around today in the west were erected long after the people they celebrate have been dead. All in a furor of nationalism.

Not for nationalism reasons...……..swing and a miss.

I don't see the point of taking down statues, use them as a learning tool. Did good, did bad. Does it matter just say what happened. Can't erase the past and forgetting about it will only cause the same mistakes again.

I don't think we should have confederate statues. They were traitors. They lost. They need consigned to history books and Civil War movies.

@LJS9502_basic: yeah so what they lost? it's a talking point about what happened.

Not much of a talking point if you can't discuss it.

I could care less unless they're privately owned and maintained then the public can rightly bugger off. But I live in a county where they paid 800K on a rabbit sculpture or a whopping 8 million on a statue of piglet so the fascination of these constructs is quite boring.

@LJS9502_basic: During the the time when nationalism was the rage these statues were erected to celebrate the so called Americaness, Canadianess, French, whatever country in the west it happened to occur in. Handwaving away my argument by declaring swing and a miss isn't a valid argument.

I say replace the statues with sculptures made from local artists.

@seveneleven: Or not waste the money on either.

Those things are ass ugly...……..

@LJS9502_basic: Depends entirely on the artists skill and intention. Art isn't always just about looking at something pretty. You are suppose to think about it as well.

Modern art requires no thought. And lets not waste money on it.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/midwest/ct-wisconsin-madison-lincoln-statue-bascom-hill-20200630-hhfadge53fethiobylwvklz24q-story.html

What a time to be alive when folks are triggered by a statue of Abraham Lincoln.

Off Topic, are you guys enforcing Newsom's orders?

These rioters are a bunch of damn idiots. Now they burned down the statue of an elk in Portland for what damn reason. Seriously liberals are losing there damn minds right now.

This guy on Twitter put it best

@Xabiss: It is hyperbole, our culture is fine and not tied to a bunch of statues of dead racists. Stop overreacting, and how do you know who burned that statue down? Relax.

ROFL keep making excuses for the rioters. You are part of the problem right now! What these people are doing is WRONG no matter what excuses you come up with next.

@Chutebox: Of course not. Can you imagine the fallout from any use of force incidents because someone failed to identify themselves after violating the law from either not social distancing or not wearing a mask? Lol It would be a liberal's dream frivolous lawsuit opportunity.

@Xabiss: You are the problem. Nothing you said even comes remotely close to what I said. Keep overreacting and twisting words. Our culture is fine chicken little.

It's not republicans burning statues, common sense much?

@n64dd: Do you conservatives always like avoiding things that make you look bad? Nice assumption though, the rioters are of all backgrounds.

No. Right-wingers/racists are defacing statues of black figures like Arthur Ashe in retaliation. I'm sorry, but can you tell me who this tennis player oppressed again?

Confederate statues belong in museums, but nothing should be “torn down” if for no other reason than the video of the protestor whose head was split open and flatlined 3 times on the way to the hospital. That idiots wife is suing the city...

As I previously stated before, individuals have NO right to destroy property. If a community wants the removal of some statues that is different.

You mean contemporary art, Modern art goes from 1860 to 1970s. And that is a pretty ignorant statement but expected from someone who doesn't have an idea on how to approach art or think about it. You should strive to become more educated. Look at more art and analyze it (thinking) and think about the context it was done in (more thinking!).

proof?

It did happen someone put White Lives Matter on the statue:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8434977/Statue-Arthur-Ashe-vandalized-words-White-Lives-Matter-Virginia.html

No idea if this was a ploy because then they came right back to spray paint BLMs on the statue. So again BLMs people defaced the same statue. Can't make this up folks.

so 1 statue, MAYBE total compared to how many on the left?

@LJS9502_basic: Racism should not be ok because the majority is ok with it.

um what?

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-news/see-john-olivers-takedown-of-confederate-statues-on-last-week-tonight-128412/

explain a lot about the history of them. this is from 2017