Trade war bailout: Trump administration plans to offer $12 billion in emergency aid for farmers hurt by tariffs

But Obama's platform was based on social welfare, you and your base love to be anti-socialist, but now you're okay with it? LOL republicans.

Meanwhile, Trump campaign for the re-election ordered "Keep America Great" banners from China with urgency in order to avoid the negative impacts of Trump imposed sanctions to China. And this is a true story! ?

You can’t “bail out” the loss of long term futures contracts to Brazil. A soy bean is a soy bean to China and everyone else. Even if you reverse these tariffs in a year, you relegate our farmers to years of renegotiations to renter foreign markets they had an established stranglehold on and doom them to long term handouts or bankruptcy.

The president is just compounding bad policy with more bad policy.

Is Wisconsin considered a swing state?

And I think there's a big difference between spending money to correct an already established social imbalance and spending money to fix a problem you created, a problem people warned you about before you created it.

Yeah. It's got some heavy blue, mostly urban centers, and a lot of red, rural areas. It went for Trump, but both he and other Republicans in the state are polling poorly.

That seem to be rather typical. Cities tends to be blue(er) and the rural areas red. Or am I wrong?

And this exactly why equating the two shows a clear lack of understanding and severe partisanship on his part. The GOP is supposed to be the party of NO HANDOUTS. But what we're seeing here is a government bailout directly tied to Trumps actions, and his actions alone. Obama bailed out companies on his own accord to keep the economy together, he had nothing to do with the recession or potential collapse of the auto industry.

Farmers are already subsidized to the heavens and back. I've got family that are farmers and I've been in many arguments over their propped up businesses while complaining about hand outs to others. They're hypocrites through and through. There's a severe disconnect to reality.

No you are not wrong.

It was one of his big victory states as far as I remember. When I first started going through there for work about a year ago, before the tariff war, people couldn't talk about Trump enough and sing his praises. Now it's like a completely different group of people.

It's almost amazing how quickly people's political alignment can change these days.

There are exceptions, but that's the general trend. I know Anaheim, which is a city in a liberal state, is pretty deeply red and Texas' cities, except for Austin, used to be red but are now trending blue. You get a really weird mix of political views from people in America, honestly. I knew someone in college, for instance (went to a college in a rural area) who accused cities of stealing money from rural areas (even though the reverse was true) and supported direct government investment in struggling communities (hardly a Republican cornerstone). You get big city conservatives who will accuse liberals of hating country folk despite never spending any time around country folk themselves (my governor likes to wear a Carhartt jacket to show that he's in touch with "common folk," even though he made a fortune through equity trading, was born and raised in a super swanky suburb of a large city, and went exclusively to Ivy League schools). There's usually a divide between rural and urban voters in all states, but it's not going to be the same in every state. Wisconsin voters, for example, seem pretty concerned about teacher salaries and child separation, whereas voters in Pennsylvania seem more concerned with immigration. Then you've got vague notions of what constitutes rural and urban. I have a family member, for instance, who technically lives in a rural area of Wisconsin, but it's basically just one giant vacation community populated by a bunch of really rich people who wanted to "escape" the city. When most people think rural they tend to think poor people on farms, but that's really not the case.

@foxhound_fox: Yeah, WI is looking tough for him these days, but he's still got 2+ years to turn sentiment around (midterms notwithstanding):

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Anaheim sounds like it was founded by someone from Scandinavia. Heim means home. Ana could be a change of Anna or Anne (both common first names) to better fit US /English.

In Norway we have a dividing line between cities and rural areas, and Oslo(with some neighbouring areas) and the rest of the country. The latter one being kinda ironic. There are a lot of people coming to Oslo. Either for studying or getting a job. Yet we are more or less made fun of or hated in the rest of the country. You apparently lose all form of identity once you decide to live in Oslo.

@horgen: That's probably the weirdest thing about American politics right now is that, despite the differences in political views between different rural areas and despite some rural areas holding some pretty liberal views, the one constant is that you can succeed by pitting cities against rural towns and vice versa. It seems like that's a constant across various countries. I know LePen gets a lot of her support from rural communities, Brexit was more rural than urban, and Merkel is facing most of her opposition from rural areas.

@theone86: Do you think that's driven by growth being concentrated in the urban areas while others get increasingly left behind, or is there something else behind it?

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@foxhound_fox: Yeah, WI is looking tough for him these days, but he's still got 2+ years to turn sentiment around (midterms notwithstanding):

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Mueller probably won't let him last the full four years.

When I want to know the right answer, I ask myself. LOL

When is he going to blame the Tarriffs on Hillary?

it's "real americans" ( rural ) vs. those fake elite city-dwellers..

real americans who see no problem with Putin helping the GOP out

Exactly like home hahaha.