Trump has been good for the US

@tryit: Well you confiirmed exactly what i thought. You will never give him a chance so my advice to you is just stay miserable for the next three years maybe longer.

'never give him a chance'?

he has been president for a year, he has officially literally and concretely given the Russians classified information we know that as a fact.

that alone is done. his 'chance' expired a loooong time ago and the thing is, I was 10000% right about him. I predicted this outcome, just like I predicted no WMDs in Iraq. I sealed his presidency as over the day he said 'oh there better not be tapes' I knew it was over right then

@tryit: Yea except thats not true or else he would have been impeached by now.

@comp_atkins: yes. People might not say it, but on some level they appreciate the honesty of racists/sexists/gay haters much more than the closeted snakes in the grass cowards that pretend to be your friend.

no actually that is not the case. Do you have any friends in law? I do.

it takes friggin forever... Nixon from investigation to impeachment took I think 18 months.

this case is a lot more complex (and much more serious) then Nixon case however, what I am refering to specifically isnt even part of the case as far as I know. He bragged to the russians and told them classifed information and this happened around 1 year ago

BUT....the end for me was 'better hope there arent any tapes' that is when I knew his presidency was going to fail

@tryit: Ok.. well you keep holding on to that for the next three years.

And yes I have 4 lawyers on my dads side of the family. It may take awhile to go to trial but it does not take long to file formal charges which currently there are none.

lol...yeah so far everything 'my side' as predicted as happened.

oh and I thought the investagation was going to go no where? over by christmas? not even touch his cabinet.

yup....turns out thus far we (my side) have been exactly correct. I predict in a few months its going to get really hot.

oh and just as a side note, I was right about WMDs too

@tryit: I predict it will disapper toward the end of the year and come back around re-election time. Will see whos right.

And your side hasnt predicted anything because nothings happened.

No way in the world the democrats will let this go. The republicans have been waving Clinton's rape accusations and confirmed sexual harassment around for two decades. Politicians don't give up simply because the other side doesn't care.

This is the closest thing the democrats have had to moral high ground in a long time.

no actually we have.

we (or rather many of us) predicted he would be under serious investigation within his first year.

we predicted that this investigation would NOT be over by thanksgiving

we predicted that this investigation would NOT be over by christmas

we predicted that this investigation WOULD start hitting Trumps Cabinet.

(all of which above Trump said would not happen)

oh and I knew there wasnt any WMDs in Iraq just to bring that point up again.

you are just fixated on only one of the predictions

@kittennose: They wont give it up but it wont get them an impeachement. So they will let it die down untill re-election comes up. Either that or pay some woman to say Trump raped her lol.

Impeachment is a long short, I do not disagree there. I mean if you can not impeach an accused rapists for sexually harassing white house staff you can't impeach someone for knowing about facebook trolling.

That however doesn't change the fact that the democrats will cling to this issue for decades.

fascinating.

a person can be an actual textbox trader with Russia but the real killer is sex.

yeah that is pretty much in line with how you guys think.

@tryit: Well you lumped 4 predictions in one. Saying you knew it wasnt going to be over by a certain date is common sense. The Democrats have a president in office that they absolutely hate so they will keep dragging it on. They tried to impeach Bush 2 as well and they hate Trump more so this isnt much of a surprise.

no those are explicit claims the presidents administration predicted each of which (we) predicted otherwise.

we keep predicting its dialing up..and it keeps dialing up.

your side keeps predicting that its going to dial down and it keeps dialing up.

AND...we predicted you would move the goal post as you trying to do now. but look honest,y I dont give a %^&* if you believe the president is going down or not, I am confident you (like everyone) will find out in due time just like WMDs back in the day. I am fairly confident of this.

I am just saying 'giving him a chance' expired a long time ago. I am not 'giving a person a chance' who appears to very likely have given the russians illegial information. you dont 'give a person a chance' when they have access to the bombs and is tweeting about 'better hope there are not tapes'

'better hope there are not tapes' alone is something that if I had the power I would have had him pack his ^&*(( right there and leave the office.

A link so I can read about this? Why on earth would they do this?

you want me to send you a link that covers the housing scandle of 2008?

ok. they wrapped less grade a investments into packages that where of higher grade.

its like selling backyard grass and saying its high quality pot. and it was legal (at least I think it was! was it not?) well at the very least we can say those responsible didnt go to jail and in fact got a huge bail out check

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_mortgage_crisis

Thanks. Searching housing scandal gave me a variety of results so I wasn't sure which one.

within that book look for the section:

Inaccurate credit ratings

@tryit: talking about moving the goal post? Really? Didn't this investigation start by saying Trump colluded with Russia to influence the election? Yet nothing was proven so now its about classified information now correct? Untill they can charge him with something this is a waste of time.

dude...its being 'prooven' now.

like WMDs you are going to have a huge reality check coming in the not to distance future.

your side said this is one big nothing burger, yet every month it escalates. its gone from a investigation to actual indictments, to pleas of guilty to now trumps cabinet.

hold on to your balz its about to rock

again (read this part closely)

Nixon took 18 months of investigation and hearings...18 months

June 17, 1972: The plumbers are arrested at 2:30 a.m. in the process of burglarizing and planting surveillance bugs in the Democratic National Committee offices at the Watergate Building Complex.

August 9, 1974: Nixon resigns from office. Gerald Ford becomes president.

he left office for fear of being impeached for a specific claim. ...obstruction of justice

@tryit: You never answered my question. Did they not change the purpose of the investigation? They will find nothing hear and when they dont it will move to something else.. either illegal business dealings or a random sexual harrasement case.

yeah i dont understand your question or your point.

did they change the purpose of the investigation as laid out by the deputy attorney general? no they did not is your answer

what does that have to do with Trumpists keeps saying 'oh this will go nowhere' and here we are with INDICTMENTS! GUILTY PLEAS! asking questions of Trumps inner circle. and why am I not remotely surprised that the goal posts has been moved by poeple such as yourself?

what part of escalation do you not understand?

keep in mind I had the same problem convincing people like yourself that Iraq didnt have WMDs are you ready for this?

oh and while we are at it just for grins, 10 years ago someone on the Right would say there is zero evidence for global warming, now they are saying 'yeah its real but its not man made'.

maybe we are right? you ready?

@tryit: What goal post have i moved exactly?

Untill Trump is charged it means nothing. Nobody has been charged with anything of any importence. And if you want an honest answer.. anyone with enough enemies in politics could be charged with something. The vast majority of them are crooks. Your a naive fool if you beliebe otherwise and some of your sanctamonius Democrats make Trump look like a Saint.

ok well have fun with that!

for me I said his relevance is over the day he said 'hope there are not any tapes'

so take care and have fun with all that, strap in and get ready

I hope you realize how young the Mueller investigation actually is.

What? Being completely unable to manage shit resulting in, *bar far*, the highest staff turnover rate in recent history?

@tryit: The good news is i dont really care. Im not hoping with all my soul hes guilty or innocent like most people on the left who only exist to see him convicted. If something happens? Then enjoy Mike Pence!

@open_lane: So the truth makes you gag.

If it's not his fault he can't get things passed, then how's it to his credit when they do get passed? The GOP had to pass some legislation in the first year, they would've done so with a rhesus monkey in charge or they would've been in deep shit. Hard to give credit to Trump.

Bankruptcy's aren't a good thing and they aren't making it big. He was given the financing and still coultn't make it work. He's a disgrace.

May want to see The Big Short @horgen. Great movie that makes the housing scandal very plain. Damn shame what happened really.

yes...I know Trump supporters dont care.

about anything really

Will look it up, thanks.

I second that, movie is good and it allows for an entertaining overview of the problem

Did you get hacked?

Trump is exactly what America has needed for a very long time.

Yes, Trump is good for America, and unlike what you will hear in the MSM,

he'll win re-election in 2020 by a landslide.

@n64dd: nope, I don't like what he's doing with his climate change policies but it doesn't matter because individual states are going batsht crazy fighting trump on it.

Even the welfare bill for the rich, trump gave the ultimatum of jobs. If jobs don't come, there will be a strong backlash against trump, and corporations in general.

His idiocy has united everyone. He's also not as bad as bush.

"Honesty goes a long way"