What is reverse racism?

I'll tell you what, I'll PM you my real name and phone number, and you can start sending me a percentage of your paycheck every pay period through Zelle if it resolves some of the guilt you have from what your ancestors did to mine. I've been looking at some luxury cars I wanted to upgrade to, and I'm sure that it will help when I'm trying to secure financing. Oh, wait, you probably would rather find a black guy that hates you and would take everything you got as a down payment for his 40 acres and a mule to give it to than to give it to me since I refuse to hold against you things that happened over a century ago to satisfy what appears to be an overwhelming amount of white guilt you are suffering.

Back to our conversation, you never owned a slave and I was never a slave. I'm going to presume that you never called a black person the N-word, and the last time a white person called me the N-word was a few months ago when my ex-wife's (she was Filipino) white boyfriend got an attitude when I texted her and gave her a friendly reminder of some of the stipulations of our divorce decree she wasn't following. You didn't do anything wrong, so you need to stop beating yourself up for the wrong things your great, great, great, great grandfather may have did (for all you know, he may have been part of the Union Army fighting against slavery and never personally owned a slave to begin with).

I am not saying that discrimination never happened since the slave days. My father knows plenty about it being that he was a black man born in South Carolina in the late 50s. I'm just saying that your opinion that you are born guilty and owe something to another person because of the color of your skin is not a healthy way to go through life. When racists are being racist, then we address those particular people with debate, shunning, and (if they break a law during their racist actions) legal action. That doesn't mean we need to punish people that had nothing to do with it, such as the white farmers having their land taken from them because of the past. Assuming you own or plan to own a car, would you be okay if your car was taken from you without compensation for the purpose of giving a black person without a car a vehicle as reparations?

Also, I never defended the racists that are still alive, I said that the decedents of the racists shouldn't be getting punished for it by having their personal property taken from them without compensation. It's one thing to give people welfare (which isn't meant as reparations anyway, it's supposed to help people down on their luck regardless of race), it's another to take the personal property of someone's by force over what someone that shared their skin color did years or even over a century ago.

As for the immigrant children, while I don't agree with them being separated from their parents without due process, even if their parents crossed illegally instead of applying for asylum at a border crossing or embassy, there are plenty of people born and raised in the US that have their children taken away from them when they break the law. If anything, putting a child in the same holding facility as their parents may open that child up to being molested by other prisoners that slip by or overpower their parents and proceed to take advantage of the child if proper precautions are not taken. Molestation is already a huge risk immigrants take with their kids when they are on their way here from Central and South America.

Maybe the problem with my comparison between the white people of today paying for their ancestors' crimes and the immigrant children being punished for their parents' crimes wasn't that it was a false equivalence. Maybe the problem is you are against immigration enforcement altogether and as a result don't feel like people entering the country illegally did anything wrong in the first place. No, I'm not saying that entering the country illegally and doing the things slave owners did to their slaves (beatings, rape, etc.) are the same, before you accuse me of making that comparison.

It depends which "minorities", East Asians doesn't need leftist handouts. Scholarships has to be merit based without set racial quota.

Against have their children taken away from them when they break the law

Under Trump's zero tolerance, not every family gets separated, it depends on their circumstances.

CNN host put her head down in shame with border agent facts. Leftist are basing their arguments from leftist fake news

Significant number of white Americans are Germans/Norwegians/Swedish are not involve with Spanish(Central/South America, west North America), French (middle/north east North America), Portuguese (east South America), British (east North America) and Russian (north-west North America) colonial American continent adventure.

Done talking with you now. Go burn a cross or whatever you do in your free time.

https://www.vox.com/2016/8/20/12556820/slavery-history-excuses

@ronvalencia: Separating even one family is wrong. Stop being an apologist for an embarrassment of a president.

hahahaha says you avoiding every vaild argumentive statement, i made. have fun playing victim your whole life. plus why would a poc burn a cross?

Oh, so one minute you argue that no black person needs anything from white people, and the next minute you want money from me? And not even money to say, go to school or help with the groceries, but you want to buy a luxury car no less? How hypocritical. You go around acting like any black person who acknowledges discrimination or is suffering financially because of the chronic racial imbalances is just looking for a handout, but as soon as we start talking about repatriations for slavery your mind goes straight to buying a new luxury car.

The problem is that all white people benefit from it. Those white farmers wouldn't have their land in the first place if not for it being forcibly taken from African farmers by their ancestors. Their land is a gateway to social advancement in South Africa, which is largely closed off to the black South African population. My dad got a union job through his dad (pretty sure there weren't too many black union members when he was there) and my mom got a college degree because her dad bought a house in a good neighborhood with his GI bill money (couldn't have done that if he were black, thanks to redlining). I get to go to college because I'm white, if I were born black at the same time to parents who had been in similar circumstances to mine I would not have been able to go to school. I see black people every single day who work every bit as hard as I do and don't get the same opportunities because they were born into worse circumstances. They lived in worse neighborhoods, went to worse schools, had less than me. I don't think for a second that I deserve to be where I am and they deserve to be where they are. It's just the hand each of us were dealt, and we're playing it as best we can.

That's what you don't get, I don't feel guilty at all. This isn't about guilt, it's about acknowledging that there's something wrong with our society. When black people dominate the prison population, dominate low-income areas of major cities, dominate poor schools, something is wrong. When wealthy crowds and social circles are still overwhelmingly white something is wrong. I believe in a healthy society, and a healthy society needs everyone to believe that they can make it, that they can be just as successful as anyone else. When there are real racial barriers to that, society cannot be truly healthy. If confiscating all my money and property would achieve that I would gladly do it, if it means the black people I see every day working their asses off just to scrape by could have a bit of economic security I would do it. That's the problem, though, is that white supremacy keeps everyone down. It keeps the hardworking black people I know down, it keeps the hardworking white people I know down, it keeps me down. White supremacy isn't meant to benefit all white people equally. It benefits those at the top the most, those like me in the middle in small ways like being able to get an education, and people at the bottom the least with wages of whiteness. What's funny is that those at the bottom are the ones most determined to keep their share.

@theone86: I am white, where is my free stuff?

Reverse racism is racism. I'm Asian and when I was in my teens, others around my age and even younger would just blurt out racist crap to me. "Choong ching choong ching chi chi chahh" "Look at that Chinese boy!" "China boy china boy china boy!!!" "Ching ching ching ching ching ching" "Look at his chinky eyes!" "Don't even have eyelids!"

I'm Filipino by the way. And guess what...? They were all BLACK, a few were Hispanics. We must absolutely call out racism regardless who is it coming from.

@theone86: you think white people owe you something? That sounds like entitlement.

@theone86: in other words, kill all white farmers and create large amounts a famine in South Africa like Zimbabwe? So progressive!

That's not what I said. And like I keep saying, this is something that could have been avoided by making South African society inclusive in the first place and making an honest attempt at equality after apartheid. They didn't do that, they doubled down on exclusion and discrimination. If they couldn't find a way to put society right when they were in power that's their own problem.

I'm white, and I never said anyone owed me anything.

that is what I told the bank when they wanted my payment, they just said 'actually some people really are entitled..now pay up!'

You missed the point of the beginning of my post, I was being sarcastic in regards to you sending me your money. I neither want it nor would I accept it if you tried to give it to me unless we were performing a mutual financial transaction with each other. I've already owned two luxury cars that my hard work paid for, not someone else's hard work given to me in a handout.

All I'm saying is that you may want to chill with that mentality you have. You can say all day that you don't feel guilty, but while I don't see anything wrong with occasional donations, if you're talking about giving up the majority of your hard-earned belongings for the purpose of lifting up someone that may have grown up less fortunate than you because of the color of their skin, then you're sure not acting like someone that doesn't feel guilty.

While some black people behind bars may be free men if they had better lawyers or more sympathetic juries, there are plenty of others that are there because they screwed up. A good example is one of my cousins that was locked up for beating his girlfriend, white privilege didn't make him hit her.

There is room for improvement in our country so that we don't have as many poor people, and while I have absolutely no regrets serving in the military, money provided by Uncle Sam didn't have to be my primary option to get college money without taking student loans. That doesn't mean people that are black are doomed to poverty and/or confinement if they aren't good enough to get a $153 million Lakers contract, or are fortunate enough to go from Harvard, to a state senator, to the highest office in the land.

@theone86: ok , do you think white people owe black people something?

@tryit: which bank do you go to?

Dude, don't stoop to posting far left garbage. You might as well have posted info wars, in terms of the level of bias. Shame.

I actually clicked it, and they have MTV News video embedded in the article, LOL!

Yeah @theone86 isn't very good at sourcing information nor coming up with any rebuttals. He's a SWJ they known for cherry picking and using terrible sources

It's the act if using racism as a defensive tool when no racism existed in the first place to gain the upper hand in an otherwise even fight.

That is, to accuse an innocent and non-racist person of racism against the accuser in order to illigitimise the accused arguing position.

If they are suggesting racism can only be against black people, that's it bit narrow minded.

Otherwise I thought maybe it was playing the race card.

the ONLY way to take the higher ground is to ignore label flinging, dont pull out your Snowflake Card fit over it, and stick to the substance.

The reality is most people are racist and the dont know it, second off a belief system is not the problem, what people DO is. So focus on the is being DONE...not the useless labels people apply to it.

your chance to take the higher ground, just ignore the labels and stick to substance

Separating families are dependant on the situation e.g. parent having a past criminal record.

For US citizens, parent with a criminal record gets separated from their children. Why the double the standard?

Without the wall, you're supporting enticement for Latino families to separate their children and sending them to the border without their parents.

Left's argument on separating families are weak when left supports the unborn babies killing.

It's the idea that racism against a larger group is less important or less cruel and thus should not be called racism. I disagree with the term.

The lists of bad things that one people did to another people can only ever grow. How could it possibly shrink? I think that it's best to avoid creating more hate. Getting recognition of past wrongdoings is a powerful thing. It should be acknowledged, and we should learn to never do those things again. I hope we can all work on a better world. I think the more pressing matter is how we can make the world a more fair place to be born into today. Aren't we all born into this world without knowing what to do, hoping for health, safety and riches? We were all born innocent. That's something all people in this world have in common, so we should stand together in making a world that can provide health, safety and riches for humanity. No matter where you are on Earth.

And then we can tackle the problems that humanity runs into together.

VOX's argument is not applicable for this generation. There's a large immigration surge after US civil war (ends 1865) and during German revolution 1848 and most of these "white" immigrants has very little to do with black slavery.

https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2014/10/22/emigration-to-and-within-the-united-states-in-the-1800s/

US is effectively the new European Union with a single dominant language i.e. English (a mixing of Germanic, French and Latin languages).

@ronvalencia: Yeah that's BS. Not many families IF ANY are separated over misdemeanors.

Power + Privilege = Racism

Power + Privilege = White people

So when a minority is discriminative to a dominant group, it's called reverse racism. Why? Because the US is obsessed with race.

The US isn't the only country with racism. Also racism is a belief that not all races are equal. That is not an ideology of only the white race.

@LJS9502_basic: Drugs are misdemeanors but if you have them in your house herr, doc will remove your children

That comes down to a dangerous environment. Being in the country illegally in no way is a dangerous environment and they first place children with family if possible FYI.

@theone86: dude, do not lie to your self. Racism is racism no matter if you are the dominant race or not.

Okay, never taking your opinion seriously again.

Considering what you list as sources, like vox or salon, I’m not phased by that. If it makes you feel good, I’m happy for you.

He's quite nuts. I'm done conversing with that extremist.

The term comes from US history, that's why I bring it up.

I still believe racism is when someone discriminates someone based on their race and excludes them from equal opportunity. Reverse racism is just redundant.

Right back atcha. If you think that Vox is on the same level of ridiculousness as Breitbart then your worldview is severely twisted.

@theone86: says the person posting vox and salon links, or defending antifa? K. We await BuzzFeed for next time.

Says the person comparing a poorly-sourced, hate-driven troll factory to a well-sourced, well-respected, left leaning publication. Have you actually ever read Vox or are you just smearing it because you saw someone else do it on some alt-right cesspool of a forum somewhere?

I have read Vox’s shit, and I think it’s garbage. This is the only forum I freqent. So if this place is alt-right, then yes. You tell me.

Wow, what a well-formed, substantiated, logical, and cogent argument. The intellects of the writers at Vox must pale in comparison to yours!

Ok.

Nice comeback.

@theone86: thanks.