Why liberals are so anti-Trump despite the good things he has done for America?

Mighty lu bu, you are nothing but a conjob trying to spread fake news propoganda. The only one who would believe your shilling is trump. Listen, trump doesn't care about you, so get your head out of his rear.

You have all these ideas of government deregulation, your shameless one sided pandering. But when it comes to the patents, IP, infinite trademarks, you're ready to get on your knees and suck off the government. That is what you call a shameless hypocrite.

You're incapable of explaining why the Iran deal was bad from the start beyond just "take Trump's word for it! I believe him 100%! He'd never, ever say anything misleading or wrong!"

It wasn't passed by the senate: Fine, doesn't make the substance of the deal bad.

Doesn't address their support for terrorist organizations. Fine, but why should they ever agree to terms like that when our own allies are themselves funding Sunni extremists in the region and who tacitly support ISIS?

As much as you may think that the Stormy Daniels story is a non issue, it has irrefutably exposed Trump as a liar and someone who's word can't be trusted at face value.

@blaznwiipspman1: I am conservative, but I didn't vote for Trump. Like many, I thought that his presidency was going to be an utter disaster and it isn't even remotely as bad as CNN, or should I say the left, claim.

Still waiting on evidence that Trump is a racist.

Still waiting on evidence that there was Russian collusion.

Still waiting on evidence that Mike Pence hates gays.

I promote propaganda? No, I promote individual responsibility and traditional values based on a Judeo-Christian principles. I believe in capitalism which was responsible for making America the greatest nation the world has ever seen. I am in favor of the free market system because through a free market system competition is created and through competition we get innovation. Sorry, but I am not the monster that you make me out to be.

The whole point of the Iran deal was to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons- however, it was always temporary and you know that. A proper deal would have been one where Iran was permanently prohibited from developing nuclear weapons because well let's just say its smart to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of terrorists.

So all we had was a deal, that was not US Senate approved and it's whole purpose was just to delay Iran's nuclear program while simultaneously, lifting a lot their sanctions- how the hell did we benefit from this? It was a win, win scenario for Iran. Again, Iran is a terrorist country; they promote terror and they are ruled by a terrorist regime... we shouldn't be making deals, we should be making demands. You liberals are nothing more than a bunch of spineless cowards and quite frankly, you disgust me.

Hmm, about shutting down for different opinions...

lol, how is this guy not banned yet? Good lord what an obvious troll.

Do mods actually mod these days?

Lol

Wow, and there's more!

And you expect to be taken seriously?

hahahahaha

@perfect_blue: This is rich, how am I a troll? I am troll because I don't believe everything that comes from CNN?

I have debated just about everyone on this board and I have given everyone their fair chance. For simply being a conservative, I have been called a racist, a bigot, a sexist, a baby killer, a commie, a sociopath, a homephobe, a transphobe and now a troll and with zero evidence, just simply based off of my political affiliations- all of these insults that have been thrown at me were from members of these forums.

I am always willing to talk, but the problem is that there are a bunch of hardcore radical liberals on these forms that won't even listen to you, even after you have provided facts and evidence. If you want to talk lets talk. The Iran deal was a bad deal from the start and Trump actually has accomplished some good things in office- if you can't acknowledge that than what is the point of having a debate? The purpose of a debate is to exchange ideas and come up with the best ones, but anything remotely conservative on GameStop gets shut down and dubbed racist. Why is that? What is the purpose of having a debate if you liberals refuse to acknowledge reality. If I agree with you and say yes, its true, Trump is Hilter, he is racist and he is the the worst president ever, I would be lying.

Is there some middle ground? Can we meet half way? Or will you just NEVER see eye to eye with a conservative? Despite what you might think, I am a very reasonable person, I am just not going to stand for these liberal lies that have been spewed on these forums.

You disgust me with your lack of foresight, and your apparent inability to interpret a question. Lets, for the sake of argument, assume everything is correct.

How does pulling out of the deal NOW make the situation better?

Under the deal Iran wouldn't be able to work towards getting a bomb for 7 years. Now if the deal collapses they can start working on getting a bomb in 0 years.

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I repeat

0 years is a shorter period of time than 7 years.

Also pulling out now completely torpedo's the United States' credibility in making any kind of similar deals with hostile foreign powers well into the future.

In terms of what we actually got from this deal, Iran massively reduced its stockpile of existing uranium and reduced its functioning centrifuges, so it will now take longer and be more difficult for Iran to build a nuclear bomb now if they wanted to. More importantly it gave credibility and support to a moderate government and to the younger Iranians who don't hold the anti-American views that the older generations of Iranians have. I know that doesn't seem important to someone who 0 foresight or strategy beyond just beating your chest like an ape and hoping for a military intervention, since that would be pretty much the only other option outside of this deal.

@mighty-lu-bu: It seems to me that plenty of people have listened to you. They're just not buying what you're peddling.

You're incapable of explaining why the Iran deal was bad from the start beyond just "take Trump's word for it! I believe him 100%! He'd never, ever say anything misleading or wrong!"

It wasn't passed by the senate: Fine, doesn't make the substance of the deal bad.

Doesn't address their support for terrorist organizations. Fine, but why should they ever agree to terms like that when our own allies are themselves funding Sunni extremists in the region and who tacitly support ISIS?

You tell me "Trump's speech hit all the key reasons". Why the **** should I believe anything in Trump's speech? Does he have proof? Is it the same as the proof he has that millions of illegal immigrants voted for Clinton?

Refer to the bolded in the previous post. No one wants to converse with someone who is incapable of not hurling insults and condescension. Maybe start by acting like an adult and you won't get ridiculed.

@mighty-lu-bu: I am also a free market capitalist but I don't believe in government interference in the economy. I don't like their regulations, and that includes patents, IP, infinite trademarks, anti free market regulations. We are not so different, but you in the end believe in government interference in the free market. I'm not like you, I'm purist to the core and can see the commie socialist government handouts for what they are. You selectively pick and choose which handouts you like and which you don't based on your own selfish interests. You aren't a real capitalist, you're a communist in disguise. And I'll say that to any conjob/liberal or whoever that disagrees with me on getting rid of the patent system.

@perfect_blue: When dumb things are said like "the Iran deal was good" then I have the right to call you cowards. Sorry, but I am against terrorists.

@PraetorianMan: Because, it was a bad deal do begin with. With the Iran deal, Iran got a free pass- they got their sanctions lifted and they just had to halt their nuclear program for 7 years? What happens after 7 years when they become worse? They are already a terrorist nation and they have already proven that they cannot be trusted because ever since the deal they have become more violent and more radical.

And no it doesn't torpedo anything, that is your opinion, not a fact.

Iran still has its missile programs which were unaffected by the deal and they continue to fund terrorists- again all the deal did was temporarily prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons and it lifted their sanctions. These are terrorists, why the hell are we trying to make deals with them? Please explain this to me.

@mighty-lu-bu: "When dumb things are said like "the Iran deal was good" then I have the right to call you cowards. Sorry, but I am against terrorists."

"I promote propaganda? No, I promote individual responsibility and traditional values based on a Judeo-Christian principles."

Beware the man who drapes himself in the flag and brandishes the cross.

You infer that liberals aren't against terrorists and expect people to discuss with you? Incredible lol

Definitely a troll

There must be some sort of confusion- I am completely anti-government and while I understand the necessity, I believe that a smaller government is the way to go. I am not anti-free market- I don't want regulations, in fact, I want less regulations. Handouts? Come on I'm conservative, not liberal.

Tell me more because you have me intrigued.

@perfect_blue: You are mad that I am flinging insults yet this has been the left's go to tactic on here- I have been called every name under the sun, but when I try to do the same (in a much more toned down way)- now suddenly I am uncivil? Calling someone an idiot, ignorant and a coward is now worse than being called a bigot? Than being called a racist? Really, come on man. Also, I am not saying that liberals aren't against terrorists, but I have to question their motives when they think a temporarily ban on nuclear development on a country that actively promotes terrorism is a good idea- that whole concept raises some SERIOUS red flags.

Can anyone answer me why the deal wasn't permanent? Why did Iran only have to temporarily halt their nuclear programs because we all know that when the deal expires that they are going to pick up right where they left off. It gets worse though because without sanctions, within the 7 years they would have gotten even more powerful. Can someone answer me why we a making deals with terrorists?

Iran deal was shit. You guys can talk about other policies, but Iran deal was laughable. Please watch the video I posted earlier.

This thread is getting shut down. You want to argue your viewpoints, then leave the insults at the door. Next person on this board who pulls this namecalling nonsense is getting hit with a strike and two week suspension at the minimum.

And if anyone thinks I'm overstepping, feel free to report me.