After the NFL, will the NHL go against "overboard" goal-scoring celebr

I just read an article about how Don Cherry had racists comments about Alex Ovechkin and how him and Sidney Crosby, among others, are a little too heavy (according to the author, Don Cherry and some other hockey 'experts') on their celebrations.

Now the thing I'm afraid of is that they're going to set some rules about celebrations. Just like they did in the NFL. I think it would s***, just like the NFL rule does.

What do you think?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Minus-xenophobia-and-racism-Cherry-has-point-ab?urn=nhl,145075

No, for that to happen the NHL would have to be run with a degree of competency like the NFL and that's just not happening.

The NHL is doing everything it possibly can to turn away new fans and put it's athletes in the worst light possible

Since there's detractors to this celebration hub bub I expect the NHL to do nothing about it and when asked about it I expect them to "not be aware of the problem"

Since there's detractors to this celebration hub bub I expect the NHL to do nothing about it and when asked about it I expect them to "not be aware of the problem"

Jaysonguy

That's because there is no problem in celebrating after a goal.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Since there's detractors to this celebration hub bub I expect the NHL to do nothing about it and when asked about it I expect them to "not be aware of the problem"

JML897

That's because there is no problem in celebrating after a goal.

Turns people off

I have a friend who doesn't watch hockey and when she saw Overchicken's celebration she thought it was his first goal, when I told her that he always does that she said she now knows why hocky fails.

Magic Johnson breathed new life into the NBA with his style of celebrating every win like he just won a playoff game.
He didn't celebrate every shot like it was a game winner

There's a big difference there

[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Since there's detractors to this celebration hub bub I expect the NHL to do nothing about it and when asked about it I expect them to "not be aware of the problem"

Jaysonguy

That's because there is no problem in celebrating after a goal.

Turns people off

I have a friend who doesn't watch hockey and when she saw Overchicken's celebration she thought it was his first goal, when I told her that he always does that she said she now knows why hocky fails.

Your "friend's" logic sucks. If hockey fails because players celebrate, that must mean the NFL really fails. Surely nobody watches the NFL since guys always celebrate after a touchdown.

Anyway, I think you're making up the situation with your friend to help prove your point...are you trying to tell me that your friend never watches hockey, but at the same time she had no idea why people didn't watch hockey?

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="JML897"]

That's because there is no problem in celebrating after a goal.

JML897

Turns people off

I have a friend who doesn't watch hockey and when she saw Overchicken's celebration she thought it was his first goal, when I told her that he always does that she said she now knows why hocky fails.

Your "friend's" logic sucks. If hockey fails because players celebrate, that must mean the NFL really fails. Surely nobody watches the NFL since guys always celebrate after a touchdown.

Anyway, I think you're making up the situation with your friend to help prove your point...are you trying to tell me that your friend never watches hockey, but at the same time she had no idea why people didn't watch hockey?

She was over while my 16 hours a day of ESPNEWS was on

Know what Overchicken's celebrations are like? It's like the defensive end that celebrates his sack in the second quarter of a game already down 2 touchdowns.

The other thing that shows how bad/misguided the celebrations are is that he doesn't do it at the end of the game. He doesn't get excited about the game itself, just what he's doing in the game.

[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Turns people off

I have a friend who doesn't watch hockey and when she saw Overchicken's celebration she thought it was his first goal, when I told her that he always does that she said she now knows why hocky fails.

Jaysonguy

Your "friend's" logic sucks. If hockey fails because players celebrate, that must mean the NFL really fails. Surely nobody watches the NFL since guys always celebrate after a touchdown.

Anyway, I think you're making up the situation with your friend to help prove your point...are you trying to tell me that your friend never watches hockey, but at the same time she had no idea why people didn't watch hockey?

She was over while my 16 hours a day of ESPNEWS was on

Know what Overchicken's celebrations are like? It's like the defensive end that celebrates his sack in the second quarter of a game already down 2 touchdowns.

The other thing that shows how bad/misguided the celebrations are is that he doesn't do it at the end of the game. He doesn't get excited about the game itself, just what he's doing in the game.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="JML897"]

Your "friend's" logic sucks. If hockey fails because players celebrate, that must mean the NFL really fails. Surely nobody watches the NFL since guys always celebrate after a touchdown.

Anyway, I think you're making up the situation with your friend to help prove your point...are you trying to tell me that your friend never watches hockey, but at the same time she had no idea why people didn't watch hockey?

InterpolWilco

She was over while my 16 hours a day of ESPNEWS was on

Know what Overchicken's celebrations are like? It's like the defensive end that celebrates his sack in the second quarter of a game already down 2 touchdowns.

The other thing that shows how bad/misguided the celebrations are is that he doesn't do it at the end of the game. He doesn't get excited about the game itself, just what he's doing in the game.

I love hockey

The NHL on the other hand is awful

Celebrations do turn people off, the idea that someone is celebrating that much over something that means nothing in most games. It's not like he's winning the game with 17 seconds left in the third period. He's celebrating a goal halfway through the second period and his team is still down 2 scores lol

As far as what's turning people off you're wrong in some and making the worst excuses in a long time on others

1. Crosby is the best player in the NHL and he's also shown that he can carry a team far into the playoffs. Of COURSE he's going to be the guy advertised. You have a better player in mind? A young phenom that has shown he can play in the playoffs is a bad choice?

2. The schedules are made in advance. Do you think they see all the games on at a certain time and pick the most interesting one right before?

3. It's shown on that channel because no one else wants it

4. Awful deal? Since when are beggars choosers? NBC has been the NHL's savior when it comes to TV

5. Hockey isn't expensive compared to all those sports. It's more expensive then basketball. Past that baseball is just as expensive and football is the most expensive sport to get into.

6. Poor media coverage is because no one wants to see it.

7. Warm weather? Ok, so if Detroit has a day in the 80's they all forget their hockey? The idea that somehow spending more months in cold weather makes you like hockey more is just out there

[QUOTE="InterpolWilco"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

She was over while my 16 hours a day of ESPNEWS was on

Know what Overchicken's celebrations are like? It's like the defensive end that celebrates his sack in the second quarter of a game already down 2 touchdowns.

The other thing that shows how bad/misguided the celebrations are is that he doesn't do it at the end of the game. He doesn't get excited about the game itself, just what he's doing in the game.

Jaysonguy

I love hockey

The NHL on the other hand is awful

Celebrations do turn people off, the idea that someone is celebrating that much over something that means nothing in most games. It's not like he's winning the game with 17 seconds left in the third period. He's celebrating a goal halfway through the second period and his team is still down 2 scores lol

As far as what's turning people off you're wrong in some and making the worst excuses in a long time on others

1. Crosby is the best player in the NHL and he's also shown that he can carry a team far into the playoffs. Of COURSE he's going to be the guy advertised. You have a better player in mind? A young phenom that has shown he can play in the playoffs is a bad choice?

2. The schedules are made in advance. Do you think they see all the games on at a certain time and pick the most interesting one right before?

3. It's shown on that channel because no one else wants it

4. Awful deal? Since when are beggars choosers? NBC has been the NHL's savior when it comes to TV

5. Hockey isn't expensive compared to all those sports. It's more expensive then basketball. Past that baseball is just as expensive and football is the most expensive sport to get into.

6. Poor media coverage is because no one wants to see it.

7. Warm weather? Ok, so if Detroit has a day in the 80's they all forget their hockey? The idea that somehow spending more months in cold weather makes you like hockey more is just out there

I cringed when I saw Don Cherry say that. I never really respected him since he has something against a whole continent :roll:

Now he basically says all soccer players are idiots. Different sport, different culture Don. Ovechkin's celebrations are nowhere near the great celebrations soccer players put on.

On top of that I'd rather watch a nice hop into the glass then listen to someone be amazed by an own goal

Don cherry is one of the planets biggest douches. I cant understand that people still listen to that guy. The day I learned he was nominated as one of the 10 greatest canadians I was VERY VERY ashamed of my country. He deserves to be thrown in the middle of the arctic.

On the topic: no they wont because besides ovechkin no one really celevrates that hard. And about ovechkin i can understand he does that becasue before, the capitals scoring a goal was pretty much a miracle.

It's good to see natural enthusiam and celebrations , but Alex O is taking it to pretty ridiculous levels beyond enthusiasm like he is intentionally trying to mock the teams he is playing against. I think he'll realise at some point when he gets a little bit older.

It's good to see natural enthusiam and celebrations , but Alex O is taking it to pretty ridiculous levels beyond enthusiasm like he is intentionally trying to mock the teams he is playing against. I think he'll realise at some point when he gets a little bit older.

Nike_Air

Mocking would be celebrating in the golies face.

I think this is the best payback ever though

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It's good to see natural enthusiam and celebrations , but Alex O is taking it to pretty ridiculous levels beyond enthusiasm like he is intentionally trying to mock the teams he is playing against. I think he'll realise at some point when he gets a little bit older.

Nifty_Shark

Mocking would be celebrating in the golies face.

I think this is the best payback ever though

Cherry has great insight to future stars and great knowledge of how to play the game. BUT he does not know how to sell the game. Ovechkin works hard for his goals, so when he scores he should be allowed to celebrate.

And so what if he celebrates. Don't like it, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! you play a physical game, check hit, hit him, provoake him. Score a goal back and celebrate in his face. don't be a little pansy and complain "hey ref, that's not nice. he's rubbing his goal in our face"

I play that way. I could care less what the other team thinks. Don't like it, do something about it.

As for the NHL in warm cities, its one of the stupidest ideas ever. If the city does not see snow every during the year (atlanta, florida, tampa, los angelos, san jose, dallas, columbus, nashville, carolina, phoenix) then they should not have a team. Ottawa and Toronto are not going to make the playoffs, yet they are producing a large amount of revenue for the league. The 6 canadian franchises are producing the majority of the league's revenue. why not do the smart thing and move some of the poorer teams to Canada? winnipeg, regina, hamilton, quebec city, halifax, hell even thunder bay can probably produce more money

Is Ovechkin really "rubbing it" in the other team's face or just overzealous with his celebrations?

That's the main thing, if he wants to celebrate by throwing himself in the boards or riding his stick or dancing like there's no tomorrow without directing anything at the other team, why penalize him. Dude's happy, don't like it? Then score back and celebrate yourself. Don't freaking whine because the guy's happy.

If he really was insulting the other team a bit like TO did a couple of times in the NFL, then it'd be OK to penalize him.

Is Ovechkin really "rubbing it" in the other team's face or just overzealous with his celebrations?

That's the main thing, if he wants to celebrate by throwing himself in the boards or riding his stick or dancing like there's no tomorrow without directing anything at the other team, why penalize him. Dude's happy, don't like it? Then score back and celebrate yourself. Don't freaking whine because the guy's happy.

If he really was insulting the other team a bit like TO did a couple of times in the NFL, then it'd be OK to penalize him.

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