Ben Gordon will receive a five-year, $55 million deal
Charlie Villanueva gets a five-year deal for $35 million
what a way to start the nba free agency
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ben gordon is a good pick up but i donno why they want vilanuevachAzN93To the contrary, Villanueva is ok, but Gordon? Uhhh...
[QUOTE="sixringz1"][QUOTE="chAzN93"]ben gordon is a good pick up but i donno why they want vilanueva chAzN93good pickup? where is he gonna play? Stuckey is their 1 and RIP is their 2. If they wanna play him in the backcourt w/ stuckey that means you'll have RIP at the 3 and Prince at the 4. That aint gonna work. There is NO WAY Rip can guard a SF. Can't happen. Maybe they are gonna trade Rip or Prince, cause right now, as assembled, that roster will not work haha unless you think stuckey is a solid one ben gordon will obviously be their 1
:lol: Ben Gordon will be their ONE? :lol: :lol: :lol: I guess the Pistons don't care about being good..
[QUOTE="sixringz1"][QUOTE="chAzN93"]ben gordon is a good pick up but i donno why they want vilanueva chAzN93good pickup? where is he gonna play? Stuckey is their 1 and RIP is their 2. If they wanna play him in the backcourt w/ stuckey that means you'll have RIP at the 3 and Prince at the 4. That aint gonna work. There is NO WAY Rip can guard a SF. Can't happen. Maybe they are gonna trade Rip or Prince, cause right now, as assembled, that roster will not work haha unless you think stuckey is a solid one ben gordon will obviously be their 1 U must not be familiar with ben gordon. He's NEVER PLAYED PG in his life. He's a 2. He was a 2 at UConn. He was a 2 in Chi with Heinrich and now Rose at the 1
[QUOTE="chAzN93"][QUOTE="sixringz1"]good pickup? where is he gonna play? Stuckey is their 1 and RIP is their 2. If they wanna play him in the backcourt w/ stuckey that means you'll have RIP at the 3 and Prince at the 4. That aint gonna work. There is NO WAY Rip can guard a SF. Can't happen. Maybe they are gonna trade Rip or Prince, cause right now, as assembled, that roster will not worksixringz1haha unless you think stuckey is a solid one ben gordon will obviously be their 1 U must not be familiar with ben gordon. He's NEVER PLAYED PG in his life. He's a 2. He was a 2 at UConn. He was a 2 in Chi with Heinrich and now Rose at the 1 he will obviously be their back up 2 but you know they will play him at 1 with rip at 2 alot
[QUOTE="sixringz1"][QUOTE="chAzN93"] haha unless you think stuckey is a solid one ben gordon will obviously be their 1 chAzN93U must not be familiar with ben gordon. He's NEVER PLAYED PG in his life. He's a 2. He was a 2 at UConn. He was a 2 in Chi with Heinrich and now Rose at the 1 he will obviously be their back up 2 but you know they will play him at 1 with rip at 2 alot back up 2? So you go out on the first day of free agency and give a guy 11 million a year for 5 years to be a BACKUP? That makes ZERO SENSE. Either they are going to trade Rip or they have a roster that doesn't fit, and will be taken advantage of night in night out on the Defensive end
[QUOTE="chAzN93"][QUOTE="sixringz1"]U must not be familiar with ben gordon. He's NEVER PLAYED PG in his life. He's a 2. He was a 2 at UConn. He was a 2 in Chi with Heinrich and now Rose at the 1sixringz1he will obviously be their back up 2 but you know they will play him at 1 with rip at 2 alot back up 2? So you go out on the first day of free agency and give a guy 11 million a year for 5 years to be a BACKUP? That makes ZERO SENSE. Either they are going to trade Rip or they have a roster that doesn't fit, and will be taken advantage of night in night out on the Defensive end Imagine if they do that Rondo deal that have been floating around the league.
[QUOTE="sixringz1"][QUOTE="chAzN93"] he will obviously be their back up 2 but you know they will play him at 1 with rip at 2 alot Master_Liveback up 2? So you go out on the first day of free agency and give a guy 11 million a year for 5 years to be a BACKUP? That makes ZERO SENSE. Either they are going to trade Rip or they have a roster that doesn't fit, and will be taken advantage of night in night out on the Defensive end Imagine if they do that Rondo deal that have been floating around the league. I don't know if that will work either cause Ray Allen was in that deal too. So once again you'd have 2 all star calibur 2 guards. That won't happen but something is going on here. There's no way anybody can tell me they're done dealing. Cause if they are, this lineup will get them killed. They will lose all their games 120-110. They'll have improved offense but ALWAYS be at a disadvantage on the defensive end
[QUOTE="chAzN93"][QUOTE="sixringz1"]U must not be familiar with ben gordon. He's NEVER PLAYED PG in his life. He's a 2. He was a 2 at UConn. He was a 2 in Chi with Heinrich and now Rose at the 1sixringz1he will obviously be their back up 2 but you know they will play him at 1 with rip at 2 alot back up 2? So you go out on the first day of free agency and give a guy 11 million a year for 5 years to be a BACKUP? That makes ZERO SENSE. Either they are going to trade Rip or they have a roster that doesn't fit, and will be taken advantage of night in night out on the Defensive end well yeah i know thats alot of money NBA.com: "Ben agreed to come here knowing he would come off the bench," the source said. "That makes it completely different than Iverson coming here ... Gordon is choosing to come here and play the super sub role."
[QUOTE="sixringz1"][QUOTE="chAzN93"] he will obviously be their back up 2 but you know they will play him at 1 with rip at 2 alot chAzN93back up 2? So you go out on the first day of free agency and give a guy 11 million a year for 5 years to be a BACKUP? That makes ZERO SENSE. Either they are going to trade Rip or they have a roster that doesn't fit, and will be taken advantage of night in night out on the Defensive end well yeah i know thats alot of money NBA.com: "Ben agreed to come here knowing he would come off the bench," the source said. "That makes it completely different than Iverson coming here ... Gordon is choosing to come here and play the super sub role." Well more power to him. I personally don't understand that. But if he wants to sign a contract with a new team and come off the bench rather than starting somewhere else, than once again, more power to him. It makes no sense to me.
^^He can still get big minutes coming off the bench, an awesome 3 guard rotation will help. They still need some of those fowards they drafted to work out to be contenders, Detroit really needs to start building commodities with the draft players.
Edit: Also keep in mind that they just drafted Prince the sequel in austin daye. This with gordon means that Prince and Ripper can be used for trade bait now, they are not irreplaceable like in the past.
oh he can get big minutes off the bench and score the same, but that team is now completely lost on the Defensive end. You have a 55 million dollar man on the bench while Rip is at the 2 and then when they want to play a 3 guard lineup, who is going to guard the 3. I mean in that conference alone you have the likes of lebron, pierce, granger, butler, you can even throw joe johnson in that mix. ALL of those players are the same height and AT LEAST 30lbs heavier than RIP. They will post him up and abuse that lineup. And if you have the 3 guard lineup in that means there is NO WAY prince could be in the game at the same time because he would have to play the 4 and he's waaaayyyyyy too frail to do that. So there goes your best perimeter defender. There is NO WAY i can see them going into this season with their roster set like it is now. I have to believe they will make more moves.^^He can still get big minutes coming off the bench, an awesome 3 guard rotation will help. They still need some of those fowards they drafted to work out to be contenders, Detroit really needs to start building commodities with the draft players.
Edit: Also keep in mind that they just drafted Prince the sequel in austin daye. This with gordon means that Prince and Ripper can be used for trade bait now, they are not irreplaceable like in the past.
DaBrainz
And for Austin Daye, he is NOWHERE near the sequel to Prince. He may be around the same height and weight but he is a very poor athlete. He's already had 2 knee surgeries and has a limited vertical (and he's what, 20 years old). Prince can run and jump, and has far better footwork than Daye. Sequel? No. Poor Man's Prince? yes.
But i do agree with you for RIP and Prince being trade bait. Like i said earlier, there is no way this team can expect to be successful with the way they are currently constructed. There HAS TO BE more moves coming.
as of now its allllriiighhttt....there both solid pick ups but i dont see Detroit doing much anymore in the long run....
Stop hating on Ben! One look at the Bulls/Celtics series shows how good he is. Ben > Stuckey. I'd bench stuckey and put Ben in or trade Rip who is declining.MoonMarvelBut, Ben is a ball dominant guard with horrible handles. He often dribbles off of his feet or will just lose the ball. His passing skills are just alright. I don't think he'll be good at point guard at all. He's best just getting his shots off of screens. He isn't horrible on defense either. I think he did an admirable job on Ray Allen, chasing him through those double screens. I can see him replacing old man Rip but not Stuckey. He just doesn't have good point guard skills or instincts.
[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]Stop hating on Ben! One look at the Bulls/Celtics series shows how good he is. Ben > Stuckey. I'd bench stuckey and put Ben in or trade Rip who is declining.im_mr_brownBut, Ben is a ball dominant guard with horrible handles. He often dribbles off of his feet or will just lose the ball. His passing skills are just alright. I don't think he'll be good at point guard at all. He's best just getting his shots off of screens. He isn't horrible on defense either. I think he did an admirable job on Ray Allen, chasing him through those double screens. I can see him replacing old man Rip but not Stuckey. He just doesn't have good point guard skills or instincts. Notice I said or trade rip. But benching Ben is a no go, won't work well. Morale would suffer. Trade Rip.
[QUOTE="im_mr_brown"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]Stop hating on Ben! One look at the Bulls/Celtics series shows how good he is. Ben > Stuckey. I'd bench stuckey and put Ben in or trade Rip who is declining.MoonMarvelBut, Ben is a ball dominant guard with horrible handles. He often dribbles off of his feet or will just lose the ball. His passing skills are just alright. I don't think he'll be good at point guard at all. He's best just getting his shots off of screens. He isn't horrible on defense either. I think he did an admirable job on Ray Allen, chasing him through those double screens. I can see him replacing old man Rip but not Stuckey. He just doesn't have good point guard skills or instincts. Notice I said or trade rip. But benching Ben is a no go, won't work well. Morale would suffer. Trade Rip.Whoops, didn't read it clearly. I completely agree with you. Being benched was one of his problems in Chicago. I still think a Stuckey/Gordon back court would be pretty bad but who knows they may be great together. Either way, I miss Ben already. Who's give the Bulls those 4 point plays, or go on a hot shooting streak, or pull out some amazing clutch shots? If anyone says John Salmons, I'm going to be angry. I bet the Bulls don't even make any moves this offseason.
I bet the Bulls don't even make any moves this offseason.im_mr_brown
Yeah...I have a feeling they're just throwing away this season and waiting for the 2010 free agents (which sucks now, but will be nice in 2010 if they can get someone like Chris Bosh as opposed to overspending on some mediocre player now).
[QUOTE="im_mr_brown"] I bet the Bulls don't even make any moves this offseason.JML897
Yeah...I have a feeling they're just throwing away this season and waiting for the 2010 free agents (which sucks now, but will be nice in 2010 if they can get someone like Chris Bosh as opposed to overspending on some mediocre player now).
alot of teams are gonna get ready for it[QUOTE="im_mr_brown"] I bet the Bulls don't even make any moves this offseason.JML897
Yeah...I have a feeling they're just throwing away this season and waiting for the 2010 free agents (which sucks now, but will be nice in 2010 if they can get someone like Chris Bosh as opposed to overspending on some mediocre player now).
I also get the feeling that the Bulls are going to tank this season. The 2010 draft is supposedly stacked from what I'm reading. C'mon lottery pick and Chris Bosh![QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="im_mr_brown"] I bet the Bulls don't even make any moves this offseason.im_mr_brown
Yeah...I have a feeling they're just throwing away this season and waiting for the 2010 free agents (which sucks now, but will be nice in 2010 if they can get someone like Chris Bosh as opposed to overspending on some mediocre player now).
I also get the feeling that the Bulls are going to tank this season. The 2010 draft is supposedly stacked from what I'm reading. C'mon lottery pick and Chris Bosh! thats dumb, why the hell would a playoff team tank a season for a lottery pick when we're a big trade/free agent signing away from being champion contenders?I also get the feeling that the Bulls are going to tank this season. The 2010 draft is supposedly stacked from what I'm reading. C'mon lottery pick and Chris Bosh! thats dumb, why the hell would a playoff team tank a season for a lottery pick when we're a big trade/free agent signing away from being champion contenders?[QUOTE="im_mr_brown"][QUOTE="JML897"]
Yeah...I have a feeling they're just throwing away this season and waiting for the 2010 free agents (which sucks now, but will be nice in 2010 if they can get someone like Chris Bosh as opposed to overspending on some mediocre player now).
kidcool189
The Spurs tank their seaon when David Robinson got hurt. We all know what happen the next year. They got Tim Duncan. Does that worth tanking a playoff team?
I was surprise when the Pistone trade away Billups. That got to be the dumbest move ever. then I thought that they might want to rebuild. Now they over pay an under size SG who can't defend and only have average speed for a 6'2 guy. Their rebuilding process is ruin.
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