Colts earn Brown paper bag of shame...

...on the Shame Report for not signing decent backup QBs.

http://davedameshek.nfl.com/?module=HP11_cp

BQ- No the Browns fans will need them

Black Out!!! :lol:

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And people have the nerve to call football one of the biggest "team sports", Colts and the Vikings are complete flops just because their QBs are gone. 1 player, worse than the NBA.X360PS3AMD05

And people have the nerve to call football one of the biggest "team sports", Colts and the Vikings are complete flops just because their QBs are gone. 1 player, worse than the NBA.X360PS3AMD05

Yeah, but they're defenses are really failing. All Minnesota had to do was hold Tampa to a field goal and they win the game, but nope. And Indy, they got carved up by Hillis and McCoy. The one really big thing about offense is you have to avoid three and outs to keep your D fresh, if you can do that and have a few successful scoring drives, your chances of winning go up.

Anyways, Dave Dameshek is an obnoxious douche, part of what makes me respect NFL.com even less. Him and that whole fantasy team are just a bunch of ameteurs who only have a job because of how big fantasy football has gotten.

Garbage story, depth gets you nowhere in sports if you're trying for a championship

The Colts could have the best backup QB in the league but if Manning is there can the backup do anything? Not a thing

People are going to say "but look Manning is out, that proves you need one"

All that proves is that you have two kinds of mindsets in sports, you're either trying to win a championship or you're trying to make it through the season. Having Manning be the one and only and having another position be that much better means they're trying for a championship.

Having Manning plus whoever they have that's never going to play once Manning is healthy means they're just trying to make it through the season.

Manning may not be as great as Marino was but the same rules apply, if you have him on your team you're allowed the ability to beef up other areas of your team because he can do so much on the offensive end

Garbage story, depth gets you nowhere in sports if you're trying for a championship Jaysonguy

You mean to tell me media outlets are now hiring "fantasy analysts" :lol:X360PS3AMD05

Yeah, and they generally don't know ****, about fantasy or much else about football. Sometimes I think they went to a bar and picked the most photogenic people there to be fantasy analysts. It reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Homer keeps trying to get good gambling advice and all the TV experts keep costing him bets. "When you're right 52% of the time, you're wrong 48% of the time."

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Garbage story, depth gets you nowhere in sports if you're trying for a championship No_Hablo_Ingles

Yeah, backup quaterbacks never do squat *cough* Matt Cassell *cough*

Garbage story, depth gets you nowhere in sports if you're trying for a championship

The Colts could have the best backup QB in the league but if Manning is there can the backup do anything? Not a thing

People are going to say "but look Manning is out, that proves you need one"

All that proves is that you have two kinds of mindsets in sports, you're either trying to win a championship or you're trying to make it through the season. Having Manning be the one and only and having another position be that much better means they're trying for a championship.

Having Manning plus whoever they have that's never going to play once Manning is healthy means they're just trying to make it through the season.

Manning may not be as great as Marino was but the same rules apply, if you have him on your team you're allowed the ability to beef up other areas of your team because he can do so much on the offensive end

Jaysonguy

Yes, well, the Packers have Flynn to back up Aaron Rodgers. Flynn is better than the backups the Colts had. He's even better than McNabb. And the Packers had just one the Super Bowl, so... meh...

to play Devil's Advocate - since Manning didn't get to meet the team doctor's until really late in the process, they may not have realised the extent to which he was injured, and being the player he is, I am sure he thought and wanted to be able to go when the season started. My question is what has Curtis Painter been doing all these years? I mean, Rogers sat behind Brett and seemed to pick some good stuff up, Painter has come in before and managed decently. I'd argue they'd have better luck with him than that quitter Kerry Collins, lest you all forgot his self-benching while he was with the Panthers, and then stunk it up with my Giants in that Superbowl I don't like to talk about.

to play Devil's Advocate - since Manning didn't get to meet the team doctor's until really late in the process, they may not have realised the extent to which he was injured, and being the player he is, I am sure he thought and wanted to be able to go when the season started. My question is what has Curtis Painter been doing all these years? I mean, Rogers sat behind Brett and seemed to pick some good stuff up, Painter has come in before and managed decently. I'd argue they'd have better luck with him than that quitter Kerry Collins, lest you all forgot his self-benching while he was with the Panthers, and then stunk it up with my Giants in that Superbowl I don't like to talk about.

pokecharm

You're talking up Curtis Painter and bashing Kerry Collins? Yeah, okay, that makes sense.

Collins is not doing well as QB, but the rest of the team isn't either. The defense could step up and start putting opponents away, instead the entire team is laying down just beause they don't have their QB. If this keeps up through the season the person I would blame most is Jim Caldwell. He lucks into the best coaching job with one of the top two quarterbacks in the league, and as soon as his QB goes down his team looks like it could be among the worst in the league. That is simply bad coaching.

You're talking up Curtis Painter and bashing Kerry Collins? Yeah, okay, that makes sense.

Collins is not doing well as QB, but the rest of the team isn't either. The defense could step up and start putting opponents away, instead the entire team is laying down just beause they don't have their QB. If this keeps up through the season the person I would blame most is Jim Caldwell. He lucks into the best coaching job with one of the top two quarterbacks in the league, and as soon as his QB goes down his team looks like it could be among the worst in the league. That is simply bad coaching.

theone86

Yeah, I guess I am. Collins is a worthless waste of space. And why would they keep Painter if he was always going to be the back-up but never start?

You're right, the rest of the team is not doing anything of value, but Collins isn't exactly improving their chances of winning. My argument is, if you kept Painter this many years, then give the kid a chance! Throwing Collins out there isn't going to win the team over with Peyton out. Collins isn't going to rally the troops, he's an older, possibly smarter, Eli Manning, who I also find has questionable value.

Though, honestly, I could care less about the Colts, it might be nice to see someone else, ie the Texans, come up big and make it into the playoffs.

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You're talking up Curtis Painter and bashing Kerry Collins? Yeah, okay, that makes sense.

Collins is not doing well as QB, but the rest of the team isn't either. The defense could step up and start putting opponents away, instead the entire team is laying down just beause they don't have their QB. If this keeps up through the season the person I would blame most is Jim Caldwell. He lucks into the best coaching job with one of the top two quarterbacks in the league, and as soon as his QB goes down his team looks like it could be among the worst in the league. That is simply bad coaching.

pokecharm

Yeah, I guess I am. Collins is a worthless waste of space. And why would they keep Painter if he was always going to be the back-up but never start?

You're right, the rest of the team is not doing anything of value, but Collins isn't exactly improving their chances of winning. My argument is, if you kept Painter this many years, then give the kid a chance! Throwing Collins out there isn't going to win the team over with Peyton out. Collins isn't going to rally the troops, he's an older, possibly smarter, Eli Manning, who I also find has questionable value.

Though, honestly, I could care less about the Colts, it might be nice to see someone else, ie the Texans, come up big and make it into the playoffs.

The fact that they signed Collins without even considering Painter tells you how much confidence they have in him. As to why they kept him around, I dunno. I thought his chances at starting were done after that game in 09 I think it was, where he subbed for the last three games and just made a spectacle of himself. Maybe they were hoping Painter would get better through learning from Peyton, maybe they just didn't think there was anyone better they could pick up, maybe a combination of both.

As for Collins, maybe he's just having trouble adjusting, I mean they did sign him like a week before the season started, right? He's had his ups and downs in his career, he could bounce back, but the rest of the team needs to step up as well.

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Yeah, and they generally don't know ****, about fantasy or much else about football. Sometimes I think they went to a bar and picked the most photogenic people there to be fantasy analysts. It reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Homer keeps trying to get good gambling advice and all the TV experts keep costing him bets. "When you're right 52% of the time, you're wrong 48% of the time."

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Garbage story, depth gets you nowhere in sports if you're trying for a championship theone86

Yeah, backup quaterbacks never do squat *cough* Matt Cassell *cough*

Its not like the Patriots made the playoffs that year.

If the Colts tank the season and end up with the top pick, do you think they take Andrew Luck (to rebuild for the future) and deal peyt?

Or do they take luck and groom him for 3 years under manning and have a smooth transition once he hangs up his ropes?

Peyton is getting older and has maybe 3-4 years left in him... maybe 2-3 that are good

They're keeping Manning til he retires. He will be back next season and likely hungrier than ever to get another championship. Drafting Luck isn't going to help Manning win.

They're keeping Manning til he retires. He will be back next season and likely hungrier than ever to get another championship. Drafting Luck isn't going to help Manning win.

Jackboot343

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They're keeping Manning til he retires. He will be back next season and likely hungrier than ever to get another championship. Drafting Luck isn't going to help Manning win.

nuker311

They want to win now. How would drafting Luck as opposed to some tool for Manning or their horrid defense help them?

They're keeping Manning til he retires. He will be back next season and likely hungrier than ever to get another championship. Drafting Luck isn't going to help Manning win.

Jackboot343

[QUOTE="Jackboot343"]

They're keeping Manning til he retires. He will be back next season and likely hungrier than ever to get another championship. Drafting Luck isn't going to help Manning win.

rawsavon

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Jackboot343"]

They're keeping Manning til he retires. He will be back next season and likely hungrier than ever to get another championship. Drafting Luck isn't going to help Manning win.

The-Apostle

[QUOTE="nuker311"][QUOTE="Jackboot343"]

They're keeping Manning til he retires. He will be back next season and likely hungrier than ever to get another championship. Drafting Luck isn't going to help Manning win.

Jackboot343

They want to win now. How would drafting Luck as opposed to some tool for Manning or their horrid defense help them?

Who should the Colts draft in the first round? A franchise QB or someone else?

Also couldn't they sign David Garrard? He's had experience in playing teams in that division.