Crabtree wants top 3 money

[QUOTE="Second_Rook"][QUOTE="chAzN93"]he should get top 5 money...he deserves it and has the ability to be one of the best recieverschAzN93

How do you implement a rookie salary cap? There will be outrage amongst the new rookies under this cap. Previous 1st overall pick 12 million a year, and then the next #1 pick gets 3 -5 million a year contract.mischa_barton

[QUOTE="mischa_barton"]How do you implement a rookie salary cap? There will be outrage amongst the new rookies under this cap. Previous 1st overall pick 12 million a year, and then the next #1 pick gets 3 -5 million a year contract.duxup

[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="mischa_barton"]How do you implement a rookie salary cap? There will be outrage amongst the new rookies under this cap. Previous 1st overall pick 12 million a year, and then the next #1 pick gets 3 -5 million a year contract.mischa_barton

i hope youre not a radiers fan....you guys did draft Darius Hayward BaychAzN93

they sure did

i'd rather have him then Crabtree actually

[QUOTE="chAzN93"]i hope youre not a radiers fan....you guys did draft Darius Hayward Bayandyboiii

they sure did

i'd rather have him then Crabtree actually

[QUOTE="andyboiii"]

[QUOTE="chAzN93"]i hope youre not a radiers fan....you guys did draft Darius Hayward BayCleanPlayer

they sure did

i'd rather have him then Crabtree actually

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"Raiders | DHB drops catch attention of Davis Comment (0) Tweet me! Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:08:16 -0700 Updating previous reports, David White, of The San Francisco Chronicle, reports Oakland Raiders managing general partner Al Davis noticed the drops by rookie WR Darrius Heyward-Bey during practice Sunday, Aug. 2. Davis, Heyward-Bey and his position coach all met after practice. Drops were a knock on Heyward-Bey during college, and so far he has done nothing to dispute that reputation since joining the Raiders."

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I read he did a better job yesterday, but still...

Now Crabs might sit out the whole season and re-enter the draft.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/06/source-parker-tells-niners-that-crabtree-will-re-enter-draft/

[QUOTE="chAzN93"]i hope youre not a radiers fan....you guys did draft Darius Hayward Bayandyboiii

they sure did

i'd rather have him then Crabtree actually

Now Crabs might sit out the whole season and re-enter the draft.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/06/source-parker-tells-niners-that-crabtree-will-re-enter-draft/

geaux321

ZN0rseman says: August 6, 2009 12:07 PM Fine, let the bastard sit there and rot.

:lol: Seriously, let Crabtree cry like a little baby

[QUOTE="geaux321"]

Now Crabs might sit out the whole season and re-enter the draft.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/06/source-parker-tells-niners-that-crabtree-will-re-enter-draft/

CleanPlayer

ZN0rseman says: August 6, 2009 12:07 PM Fine, let the bastard sit there and rot.

:lol: Seriously, let Crabtree cry like a little baby

If the 49ers do that what is to keep every dude they draft from here on out to try do the same? The 49ers would be crazy to do so. duxup

I didn't know that players could re-enter the draft, would SF receive any compensation from a team drafting him next year?

[QUOTE="duxup"] If the 49ers do that what is to keep every dude they draft from here on out to try do the same? The 49ers would be crazy to do so. Second_Rook

I didn't know that players could re-enter the draft, would SF receive any compensation from a team drafting him next year?

It's a false report. Len Pasquarelli of ESPN stated that he just spoke to Parker, and Parker has not made any form of statement about Crabtree sitting out the year. Len goes on to say that he has known Parker for more than 20 years, says that he is one of the most respected agents in the game, and that threats are not something he practices. It sounds like Crabtree's cousin, who is not the negotiator in this contract, is frustrated by the speed and/or terms of the negotiation, and wants it to end soon. Matt Barrows, the niners beat writer, said something similar earlier today too.

[QUOTE="duxup"] If the 49ers do that what is to keep every dude they draft from here on out to try do the same? The 49ers would be crazy to do so. Second_Rook

I didn't know that players could re-enter the draft, would SF receive any compensation from a team drafting him next year?

It's a false report. Len Pasquarelli of ESPN stated that he just spoke to Parker, and Parker has not made any form of statement about Crabtree sitting out the year. Len goes on to say that he has known Parker for more than 20 years, says that he is one of the most respected agents in the game, and that threats are not something he practices. It sounds like Crabtree's cousin, who is not the negotiator in this contract, is frustrated by the speed and/or terms of the negotiation, and wants it to end soon. Matt Barrows, the niners beat writer, said something similar earlier today too.

Renegade_Fury

Whether its true or not, or official or not (I'll go with the latter since no rookie has ever done such a thing) I think it's a negotiating ploy from the Crabtree camp which may just backfire on them. Goodell is probably not very happy that a rookie is actually even contemplating of using this negotiating card. If Crabtree sits out then he's hurting himself more than he's hurting the Niners. From news of the Niners training camp Josh Morgan has been lights out during 11-on-11 1st team practices.

While, the Niners would be a better team with Crabtree singed and in TC they're not going to be hurting too much. This will still be a run-first team with enough competent receivers and a simplified offense to make it easy for either Smith or Hill to manage. Last player two make it into the NFL who missed more than a full year of playing time before they started their pro career was USC's Mike Williams.

I don't know what Crabtree is thinking. Does he really believe that the 49ers are going to break the system pay him more? If the 49ers do that what is to keep every dude they draft from here on out to try do the same? The 49ers would be crazy to do so. It seems more like Crabtree is just a willing tool for an agent to try to break the system. What a dope. At least it makes it easy for the 49ers. "Here's the offer, call us when you want that money."duxup

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

It's a false report. Len Pasquarelli of ESPN stated that he just spoke to Parker, and Parker has not made any form of statement about Crabtree sitting out the year. Len goes on to say that he has known Parker for more than 20 years, says that he is one of the most respected agents in the game, and that threats are not something he practices. It sounds like Crabtree's cousin, who is not the negotiator in this contract, is frustrated by the speed and/or terms of the negotiation, and wants it to end soon. Matt Barrows, the niners beat writer, said something similar earlier today too.

duxup

[QUOTE="duxup"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

It's a false report. Len Pasquarelli of ESPN stated that he just spoke to Parker, and Parker has not made any form of statement about Crabtree sitting out the year. Len goes on to say that he has known Parker for more than 20 years, says that he is one of the most respected agents in the game, and that threats are not something he practices. It sounds like Crabtree's cousin, who is not the negotiator in this contract, is frustrated by the speed and/or terms of the negotiation, and wants it to end soon. Matt Barrows, the niners beat writer, said something similar earlier today too.

Renegade_Fury

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="duxup"] Maybe, ESPN is hardly the pantheon of accurate reporting.

duxup

Well, it doesn't matter whether you people trust which sources is reporting what. In the end, they all seem to agree on one thing and that it's not the agent who made the announcement but a cousin who acts as advisor to Crabtree. Plus, whether one trusts ESPN or not Len Pasquerelli is actually a very good sports writer who just happens to work for ESPN. Just because the company sucks as a company it doesn't mean some of the people working for them are not good reporters.

I will say that RF does get it right. If the local Niner beat writers are reporting then they probably have a better inside take on what's really happening. I'd say the same for all beat writers reporting breaking news for all other sports teams.

The threat's laughable anyways -- it's stupid to hold out for a few extra million when losing a year's worth of time is worth much much more. Sign your rookie contract which is still going to be $30-40M, play well, and you either a) force the team to sign you to a contract extension after 3 or 4 years or b) "worst case" scenario, you get to free agency one year sooner and cash in there.

Well, it doesn't matter whether you people trust which sources is reporting what. In the end, they all seem to agree on one thing and that it's not the agent who made the announcement but a cousin who acts as advisor to Crabtree. Plus, whether one trusts ESPN or not Len Pasquerelli is actually a very good sports writer who just happens to work for ESPN. Just because the company sucks as a company it doesn't mean some of the people working for them are not good reporters.

I will say that RF does get it right. If the local Niner beat writers are reporting then they probably have a better inside take on what's really happening. I'd say the same for all beat writers reporting breaking news for all other sports teams.

Buck_Hotep

I guess you got to trust someone but damn mixing family into this stuff is not a great idea.

I know the NFL has a rookie school where they talk about money management and such. They should (if they don't already) offer some advisers from some trustworthy company who lays down some good ground rules and how to go about things. These kids are so young and clueless.

The threat's laughable anyways -- it's stupid to hold out for a few extra million when losing a year's worth of time is worth much much more. Sign your rookie contract which is still going to be $30-40M, play well, and you either a) force the team to sign you to a contract extension after 3 or 4 years or b) "worst case" scenario, you get to free agency one year sooner and cash in there.

masterpinky2000

[QUOTE="CleanPlayer"]

[QUOTE="geaux321"]

Now Crabs might sit out the whole season and re-enter the draft.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/06/source-parker-tells-niners-that-crabtree-will-re-enter-draft/

NetYankEagle

ZN0rseman says: August 6, 2009 12:07 PM Fine, let the bastard sit there and rot.

:lol: Seriously, let Crabtree cry like a little baby

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="duxup"] Maybe, ESPN is hardly the pantheon of accurate reporting.

duxup

[QUOTE="duxup"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"] The original source is from ProFootballTalk, which is far less reliable. Also I trust the Matts (Barrows & Maiocco) more than anybody else.

geaux321

"I'm hearing that...." Where hearing that from Chris? The echo inside your voice in your own head!?!?!?

If this is true (which I highly doubt but you never know) then he is doing this completely wrong. If he sits out it will stunt his development and will end up making him worse instead of better. Plus who is guaranteeing that he would get more money. There is a good chance that he could get less.

Crabtree wants to be paid based on "Mel Kiper's Draft Board". Is he serious? Guess so. This guy isn't living in reality. You're a #10 pick---live with it. Hope this issue with rookie contracts is taken care of real soon. It's getting ridiculous each year.

Crabtree's agent has already said that he hasn't made any such demands nor has his client. The funny thing is that if Crabtree does make his cousin not turn out to be an attention-grabbing whore it might be to the benfit of the Niners to let him sit out the year and re-enter the draft. If they sign him after a long holdout then they're handing over several million of guaranteed money to a player who has shown himself to be selfish and moneygrabbing. That's the kind of personality and attitude the team doesn't need.

One other ramification Crabtree sitting out the year and re-entering the draft in 2010 is Goodell playing hardball with the NLFPA when collective bargaining talks begin. I wouldn't be surprised if Goodell puts a penalty on any rookie sitting out their draft and rookie season by following NCAA rules when it comes to school transfers for athletes. Make them wait a year once they transfer from one school to another.

While, I would rather have Crabtree with the Niners signed and in TC, him missing weeks would be a detriment and a hindrance rather than a blessing for the Niner WR corps which seems to be doing well in camp. I have more confidence in Josh Morgan and Brandon Jones as the 1 and 2 starters right now. They're learning the new offense which a rookie needs to do if they ever get a chance to contribute.

Perhaps this is a ploy to try and get SF to trade him to someone who will pay him

He deserves top 4 money *cough* Al Davis is a moron *cough* :)

I think he'll be great, but we won't know till 3 years down the road.

I really don't know what Crabtree's trying to grab at. He hasn't played a single down in the NFL, and no one in their right mind would pay him more. But then again, this raises the problem of how draftees get paid in the NFL. Most players get paid more than seasoned vets.Yagr_Zero

Im really pissed with this dude. He has not even made one single NFL catch and he wants all this money??? The NFL really needs a salary cap for rookies. I think Crabtree just sped up the process of that happening with the way he is acting. Instead of signing a contract and proving how good he is on the field to deserve more money he acts like a spoiled brat. I really feel bad for the Niners. They had no idea this idiot would pull something like this. I say let him go and just move on. The team is trying to rebuild and they really dont need this cancer. I hope he does re enter the draft next year and gets drafted in the second round. I would lmao. It's so many unheard of athletes that are alot better then this guy who will never get the chance to play in the NFL and make millions. I would sign a contract so quick with whatever team drafted me and prove myself on the field. Mr. Crabtree seems to not get it.

Im really pissed with this dude. He has not even made one single NFL catch and he wants all this money??? The NFL really needs a salary cap for rookies. I think Crabtree just sped up the process of that happening with the way he is acting. Instead of signing a contract and proving how good he is on the field to deserve more money he acts like a spoiled brat. I really feel bad for the Niners. They had no idea this idiot would pull something like this. I say let him go and just move on. The team is trying to rebuild and they really dont need this cancer. I hope he does re enter the draft next year and gets drafted in the second round. I would lmao. It's so many unheard of athletes that are alot better then this guy who will never get the chance to play in the NFL and make millions. I would sign a contract so quick with whatever team drafted me and prove myself on the field. Mr. Crabtree seems to not get it.

coltsfan4ever

While I wouldn't drop him as long as there's a chance to sign him I do agree there should be more than just rookie salary slotting but a rookie salary cap as well. Crabtree is doing nothing to help the NFLPA keep a rookie salary cap from being used as part of the next collective bargaining negotiations. I say Goodell will use his threat to sit out as a reason why a cap on rookie pay should be implemented and the public will back him on that.

[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

Im really pissed with this dude. He has not even made one single NFL catch and he wants all this money??? The NFL really needs a salary cap for rookies. I think Crabtree just sped up the process of that happening with the way he is acting. Instead of signing a contract and proving how good he is on the field to deserve more money he acts like a spoiled brat. I really feel bad for the Niners. They had no idea this idiot would pull something like this. I say let him go and just move on. The team is trying to rebuild and they really dont need this cancer. I hope he does re enter the draft next year and gets drafted in the second round. I would lmao. It's so many unheard of athletes that are alot better then this guy who will never get the chance to play in the NFL and make millions. I would sign a contract so quick with whatever team drafted me and prove myself on the field. Mr. Crabtree seems to not get it.

Renegade_Fury

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

Im really pissed with this dude. He has not even made one single NFL catch and he wants all this money??? The NFL really needs a salary cap for rookies. I think Crabtree just sped up the process of that happening with the way he is acting. Instead of signing a contract and proving how good he is on the field to deserve more money he acts like a spoiled brat. I really feel bad for the Niners. They had no idea this idiot would pull something like this. I say let him go and just move on. The team is trying to rebuild and they really dont need this cancer. I hope he does re enter the draft next year and gets drafted in the second round. I would lmao. It's so many unheard of athletes that are alot better then this guy who will never get the chance to play in the NFL and make millions. I would sign a contract so quick with whatever team drafted me and prove myself on the field. Mr. Crabtree seems to not get it.

coltsfan4ever

BTW you mean Peterson right? I didn't follow Peppers' rookie signing.