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#1 feryl06
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Paul-Pierce-says-he-s-the-best-player-in-the-wor?urn=nba,96670

I don't know if he was misinterpreted, but I think winning the championship has gone to his head. Does anyone think he's a better player than Kobe?

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#2 xscrapzx
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That actually looks like that came out of an article of the enquirer. I don't think he is better overall, but he was definately better then Kobe in the Finals all around.
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No way is he better than Kobe....Are we talking about the Pierce who faked his injury in the Final, the Pierce who last year couldn't do anythin to pull his team out of having the one worse record and then basically gave up, the Pierce who only won a championship because of the an incredibly stacked team... I will stop there.
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#4 Oleg_Huzwog
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Half of NBA rosters are composed of prima donnas who would say the exact same thing if asked.

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#5 Cube_of_MooN
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No way is he better than Kobe....Are we talking about the Pierce who faked his injury in the Final, the Pierce who last year couldn't do anythin to pull his team out of having the one worse record and then basically gave up, the Pierce who only won a championship because of the an incredibly stacked team... I will stop there. badaboom187
Faked injury? I doubt it.

Anyway, I hate when people say things like this, but I guess he can because he won the campionship.

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[QUOTE="badaboom187"]No way is he better than Kobe....Are we talking about the Pierce who faked his injury in the Final, the Pierce who last year couldn't do anythin to pull his team out of having the one worse record and then basically gave up, the Pierce who only won a championship because of the an incredibly stacked team... I will stop there. Cube_of_MooN

Faked injury? I doubt it.

Anyway, I hate when people say things like this, but I guess he can because he won the campionship.

yea i hate it too, but that doesnt give him the right to say it. if thats the case rip hamiliton coulda ran around saying he was better than Kobe when the pistons beat the lakers in the finals lol.

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Not even the best player on his team. He just had Radmonovich guarding him so he was the Finals MVP. KG was the team's MVP for the majority of the season.
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#8 Lostboy1224
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At least Tim Duncan wins titles and doesn't go around stating he is the greatest ever. Its times like these I appreciate humble all-time greats. If your a great player you shouldn't need to tell people, they will already know.

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#9 andyboiii
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Half of NBA rosters are composed of prima donnas who would say the exact same thing if asked.

Oleg_Huzwog

not anyone on the warriors or Clippers team

not Stoudemire

not Tmac

not Lebron

not Marbury

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What's he suppposed to say? "I think Kobe is better than me"? He just one the the NBA Championship and was the Finals MVP, should he concede that Kobe is better. You should feel that your the best in everything you do even if in reality he's not. Which he's isn't. BTW this is from last week, why is this JUST getting discussed now?
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Not even the best player on his team. He just had Radmonovich guarding him so he was the Finals MVP. KG was the team's MVP for the majority of the season.waynehead895
Um, he was being guarded by Odom. You're a Laker fan?
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Wow Paulina has gone way over her head.
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]Not even the best player on his team. He just had Radmonovich guarding him so he was the Finals MVP. KG was the team's MVP for the majority of the season.Kuruption84
Um, he was being guarded by Odom. You're a Laker fan?

do you watch basketball?

Radmanovic was assigned to guard Pierce as well. Pierce scored more on Radmanovic then he did on Odom ;)

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:lol: Pierce isn't even top 10. He isn't even the best player on his own team. Get off the drugs Pierce.
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]Not even the best player on his team. He just had Radmonovich guarding him so he was the Finals MVP. KG was the team's MVP for the majority of the season.Kuruption84
Um, he was being guarded by Odom. You're a Laker fan?

I am a Lakers fan. Radmonovich had Pierce. Odom had Perkins and switched with Gasol from time to time.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Paul-Pierce-says-he-s-the-best-player-in-the-wor?urn=nba,96670

I don't know if he was misinterpreted, but I think winning the championship has gone to his head. Does anyone think he's a better player than Kobe?

feryl06

What a surprise. Expect the Lakers or the Celtics to meet up in the finals soon again. NBA is a joke.

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[QUOTE="ChiSoxBombers"]He's the 2nd most annoying person in the NBA behind Rasheed Wallace. You cant go out and say s*** like that when its his team that won the championship not him. on rasheed's side, though, that man is unbelievable. Is there anyone in the NBA that complains every foul thats called besides him. i cant stand him at all, im sorry. whiny bastardbalindos

This is BS, it is all to hype up the Lakers and Celtics rivalry. There just isnt real reason for Pierce to say anything especially right now but he does to keep you thinking of the rivalry.



I hate overrated rivalries. They're trying to turn Lakers vs. Celtics into Red Sox vs. Yankees (the single most overrated rivalry in any sport).
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I don't know, it could be a mistranslation. Pierce could have said, "I believe that I can be the best player if I have confidence in myself." Or maybe he wants to be like Muhammed Ali and claim he's the greatest, I don't know.

But whatever. It sounds bad. It's not good for him to boast like that if he actually said that. But isn't Kobe and Pierce like really good friends? That's what I don't get. They're like best pals! This can put a dent on any friendship. This could also put some division with the USA Team. Things like this mess up teams.

So what now. If Pierce was asked by that same reporter, "Do you think Jordan's the greatest ever?" Is Pierce going to say, "I don't think Jordan's the greatest ever. I'm the greatest ever."

But we all know the answer to who's better between Kobe and Pierce. It's not even a contest! Kobe is way better. Pierce is good, but so is Kevin Garnet and Ray Allen. By the way, wasn't Celtics like last place before Garnet and Allen came?

Hmm....

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[QUOTE="balindos"]

[QUOTE="ChiSoxBombers"]He's the 2nd most annoying person in the NBA behind Rasheed Wallace. You cant go out and say s*** like that when its his team that won the championship not him. on rasheed's side, though, that man is unbelievable. Is there anyone in the NBA that complains every foul thats called besides him. i cant stand him at all, im sorry. whiny bastardUssjTrunks

This is BS, it is all to hype up the Lakers and Celtics rivalry. There just isnt real reason for Pierce to say anything especially right now but he does to keep you thinking of the rivalry.



I hate overrated rivalries. They're trying to turn Lakers vs. Celtics into Red Sox vs. Yankees (the single most overrated rivalry in any sport).

Ohhhh the jealousy.

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#23 Master_Live
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I don't know, it could be a mistranslation.

But whatever. It sounds bad. It's not good for him to boast like that if he actually said that. But isn't Kobe and Pierce like really good friends? That's what I don't get. They're like best pals! This can put a dent on any friendship. This could also put some division with the USA Team. Things like this mess up teams.

ASK_Story

This isn't the President of Iraq my friend. Besides this couldn't mess the USA Team because Paul Pierce isn't on the team.

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[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]

I don't know, it could be a mistranslation.

But whatever. It sounds bad. It's not good for him to boast like that if he actually said that. But isn't Kobe and Pierce like really good friends? That's what I don't get. They're like best pals! This can put a dent on any friendship. This could also put some division with the USA Team. Things like this mess up teams.

Master_Live

This isn't the President of Iraq my friend. Besides this couldn't mess the USA Team because Paul Pierce isn't on the team.

What? I thought he was!

Well, my bad. I could've sworn he was with Kobe on the team since during the finals, the announcers were saying how Kobe and Pierce got a huge respect for each other because of practicing with the USA Team.

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somebody get this guy a wheelchair
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[QUOTE="UssjTrunks"][QUOTE="balindos"]

[QUOTE="ChiSoxBombers"]He's the 2nd most annoying person in the NBA behind Rasheed Wallace. You cant go out and say s*** like that when its his team that won the championship not him. on rasheed's side, though, that man is unbelievable. Is there anyone in the NBA that complains every foul thats called besides him. i cant stand him at all, im sorry. whiny bastardMaster_Live

This is BS, it is all to hype up the Lakers and Celtics rivalry. There just isnt real reason for Pierce to say anything especially right now but he does to keep you thinking of the rivalry.



I hate overrated rivalries. They're trying to turn Lakers vs. Celtics into Red Sox vs. Yankees (the single most overrated rivalry in any sport).

Ohhhh the jealousy.



Not at all. I have the Leafs vs. Canadiens rivalry which is just as massively overrated.
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i wish he was better than Kobe cause Kobe is the biggest jackass i've ever seen.
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#28 mrgab
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Not sure I would rate Pierce in the top 10 in the NBA today.
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Not sure I would rate Pierce in the top 10 in the NBA today.mrgab

Not even in top 15, I think. Paul Pierce was great in the Finals, but what else besides get to the Eastern Conference Finals once or twice. I believe he is just trying to steal some spotlight from Kobe who everyone knows is the best player in the game.

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One more thing; a good player does not have to declare he is good or great. His play should speak for itself. Another factor is what he has done in his career. If it was not for KG or Allen, Pierce would probably be asking to be traded out of there. That team was nothing with KG, Allen, and even Posey, who played incredible D throughout the season. I never hear Duncan saying he is better than anyone else. Kobe does not do it anymore. If you want respect, you must earn it. Pierce the same thing. If he wants respect, he must prove himself that he can do it without KG and Allen carrying a majority of the workload. Kobe does most of the work and never screams he is the best. He just plays and does what he has to do. Simple as that.
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One more thing; a good player does not have to declare he is good or great. His play should speak for itself. Another factor is what he has done in his career. If it was not for KG or Allen, Pierce would probably be asking to be traded out of there. That team was nothing with KG, Allen, and even Posey, who played incredible D throughout the season. I never hear Duncan saying he is better than anyone else. Kobe does not do it anymore. If you want respect, you must earn it. Pierce the same thing. If he wants respect, he must prove himself that he can do it without KG and Allen carrying a majority of the workload. Kobe does most of the work and never screams he is the best. He just plays and does what he has to do. Simple as that. jfcundiff

Kobe doesn't scream hes the best, what he does is talk trash about everyone else including his own teammates, whine about being traded, and be a generally arrogant prick Basketball is where a good team beats a stellar player everyday. Im not saying Pierce is in the top 10 players, and certainly not more talented than kobe, but to act like Kobe is a saint is baffling, Kobe didnt prove he could do anything without Shaq. Heck this year it took adding Gasol to make the Lakers even look like a serious team.

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]One more thing; a good player does not have to declare he is good or great. His play should speak for itself. Another factor is what he has done in his career. If it was not for KG or Allen, Pierce would probably be asking to be traded out of there. That team was nothing with KG, Allen, and even Posey, who played incredible D throughout the season. I never hear Duncan saying he is better than anyone else. Kobe does not do it anymore. If you want respect, you must earn it. Pierce the same thing. If he wants respect, he must prove himself that he can do it without KG and Allen carrying a majority of the workload. Kobe does most of the work and never screams he is the best. He just plays and does what he has to do. Simple as that. hmac777

Heck this year it took adding Gasol to make the Lakers even look like a serious team.

And the Celtics needed a sure Hall of Famer in Kevin Garnett and a HOF candidate in Ray Allen to look serious; your point is?

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the first NBA Finals game almost felt like a soap opera.
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[QUOTE="hmac777"]

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]One more thing; a good player does not have to declare he is good or great. His play should speak for itself. Another factor is what he has done in his career. If it was not for KG or Allen, Pierce would probably be asking to be traded out of there. That team was nothing with KG, Allen, and even Posey, who played incredible D throughout the season. I never hear Duncan saying he is better than anyone else. Kobe does not do it anymore. If you want respect, you must earn it. Pierce the same thing. If he wants respect, he must prove himself that he can do it without KG and Allen carrying a majority of the workload. Kobe does most of the work and never screams he is the best. He just plays and does what he has to do. Simple as that. Master_Live

Heck this year it took adding Gasol to make the Lakers even look like a serious team.

And the Celtics needed a sure Hall of Famer in Kevin Garnett and a HOF candidate in Ray Allen to look serious; your point is?

He's accussing Pierce of not being able to win with out other good players, i, in response am saying that every team needs other good players, and even Kobe cant make a team good by himself

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Kobe almost made a team good by himself before Gasol was there. Kobe was the one leading them to the playoffs without any help. Pierce could not make it to the playoffs, but only be on one of the worst teams of all time in NBA history. Pierce needed others to complete the team. KG and Allen were the ones to complete the puzzle. Gasol just added the extra bounce with Bynum gone. If Bynum was healthy, they would most likely still be in the Finals. You must also look at the mismatch in the Finals. You have 3 Future Hall of Famers on the Celtics, while Kobe might be the only Hall of Famer on that team.
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Really the entire team was revamped, i mean the Celts traded half the team away just to get KG. I believe that if Kobe had played on the same lousy Celtic team that Pierce played on for most of the last decade, they wouldnt be a good team. Maybe theyd do better because Kobe is a better player, but not significantly better
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Before the 06-07 season the Celtics still made the playoffs with almost the same team. Pierce was the best player,but was not even playing close the level Kobe was. Kobe between 04-07 was an animal that could not be stopped. Stats will prove it all.
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I do not argue that Kobe is an amazingly skilled player and that Pierce is just a regular level good to great perhaps player who stepped up big a few times in the playoffs and finals. That was never my arguement. I do not however, think he is the humble saint you paint him to be. You make arguments like if the Celtics didnt have KG and Allen, PIerce would be asking to be traded, and that to prove himself he would have to win on a team where he is the only great player. I believe Kobe is guilty of these very same things. He asked to be traded, he talked trash about guys like Bynum, the team wasn't gonna win without Gasol's addition, Kobe has yet to win without another great player on the team. I dont think this makes Pierce Kobe's equal, but to paint Kobe as the great benevolent force who can single handedly win everything all the time is wrong.

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I never painted Kobe out to be a saint. He was never was and never will be. He is maturing now as he is getting older kind of the way Jordan did. He is trusting his teammates on the court and willing to play teamball, which he never used to do. Also, Pierce was asking to be traded after that season they had when they won maybe 13 or so games. They made some moves and landed both KG and Allen. Kobe was making the playoffs without Gasol and before Bynum was as good as he is now. That is all I was saying.
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And for the record, I am not a Kobe fan. I am actually a Heat fan.

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the first NBA Finals game almost felt like a soap opera. Tjeremiah1988

Every season feels like a soap opera. ESPN has turned all sports into drama and now we have a bunch of Drama Queens watching sports. ESPN IS FOR DRAMA QUEENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]One more thing; a good player does not have to declare he is good or great. His play should speak for itself. Another factor is what he has done in his career. If it was not for KG or Allen, Pierce would probably be asking to be traded out of there. That team was nothing with KG, Allen, and even Posey, who played incredible D throughout the season. I never hear Duncan saying he is better than anyone else. Kobe does not do it anymore. If you want respect, you must earn it. Pierce the same thing. If he wants respect, he must prove himself that he can do it without KG and Allen carrying a majority of the workload. Kobe does most of the work and never screams he is the best. He just plays and does what he has to do. Simple as that. hmac777

Kobe doesn't scream hes the best, what he does is talk trash about everyone else including his own teammates, whine about being traded, and be a generally arrogant prick Basketball is where a good team beats a stellar player everyday. Im not saying Pierce is in the top 10 players, and certainly not more talented than kobe, but to act like Kobe is a saint is baffling, Kobe didnt prove he could do anything without Shaq. Heck this year it took adding Gasol to make the Lakers even look like a serious team.

No it didn't. Before 2/1/08 the Lakers had a good record. You obviously do not know what you are talking about. Gasol just added to the powerhouse that the Lakers were becoming. Bynum was pretty much unstoppable before he went down with the knee injury. You really need to think before you write.

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[QUOTE="hmac777"]

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]One more thing; a good player does not have to declare he is good or great. His play should speak for itself. Another factor is what he has done in his career. If it was not for KG or Allen, Pierce would probably be asking to be traded out of there. That team was nothing with KG, Allen, and even Posey, who played incredible D throughout the season. I never hear Duncan saying he is better than anyone else. Kobe does not do it anymore. If you want respect, you must earn it. Pierce the same thing. If he wants respect, he must prove himself that he can do it without KG and Allen carrying a majority of the workload. Kobe does most of the work and never screams he is the best. He just plays and does what he has to do. Simple as that. Solid_Link22

Kobe doesn't scream hes the best, what he does is talk trash about everyone else including his own teammates, whine about being traded, and be a generally arrogant prick Basketball is where a good team beats a stellar player everyday. Im not saying Pierce is in the top 10 players, and certainly not more talented than kobe, but to act like Kobe is a saint is baffling, Kobe didnt prove he could do anything without Shaq. Heck this year it took adding Gasol to make the Lakers even look like a serious team.

No it didn't. Before 2/1/08 the Lakers had a good record. You obviously do not know what you are talking about. Gasol just added to the powerhouse that the Lakers were becoming. Bynum was pretty much unstoppable before he went down with the knee injury. You really need to think before you write.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]One more thing; a good player does not have to declare he is good or great. His play should speak for itself. Another factor is what he has done in his career. If it was not for KG or Allen, Pierce would probably be asking to be traded out of there. That team was nothing with KG, Allen, and even Posey, who played incredible D throughout the season. I never hear Duncan saying he is better than anyone else. Kobe does not do it anymore. If you want respect, you must earn it. Pierce the same thing. If he wants respect, he must prove himself that he can do it without KG and Allen carrying a majority of the workload. Kobe does most of the work and never screams he is the best. He just plays and does what he has to do. Simple as that. jfcundiff

Kobe doesn't scream hes the best, what he does is talk trash about everyone else including his own teammates, whine about being traded, and be a generally arrogant prick Basketball is where a good team beats a stellar player everyday. Im not saying Pierce is in the top 10 players, and certainly not more talented than kobe, but to act like Kobe is a saint is baffling, Kobe didnt prove he could do anything without Shaq. Heck this year it took adding Gasol to make the Lakers even look like a serious team.

No it didn't. Before 2/1/08 the Lakers had a good record. You obviously do not know what you are talking about. Gasol just added to the powerhouse that the Lakers were becoming. Bynum was pretty much unstoppable before he went down with the knee injury. You really need to think before you write.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

SO i exaggerate, i dont think they had a chance to go nearly as far this year w/o adding that other piece of the puzzle. THats the sum of my feelings, I don't blame Kobe for not being able to do it alone, but no one can do it alone, pretty much ever

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#45 jfcundiff
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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]One more thing; a good player does not have to declare he is good or great. His play should speak for itself. Another factor is what he has done in his career. If it was not for KG or Allen, Pierce would probably be asking to be traded out of there. That team was nothing with KG, Allen, and even Posey, who played incredible D throughout the season. I never hear Duncan saying he is better than anyone else. Kobe does not do it anymore. If you want respect, you must earn it. Pierce the same thing. If he wants respect, he must prove himself that he can do it without KG and Allen carrying a majority of the workload. Kobe does most of the work and never screams he is the best. He just plays and does what he has to do. Simple as that. hmac777

Kobe doesn't scream hes the best, what he does is talk trash about everyone else including his own teammates, whine about being traded, and be a generally arrogant prick Basketball is where a good team beats a stellar player everyday. Im not saying Pierce is in the top 10 players, and certainly not more talented than kobe, but to act like Kobe is a saint is baffling, Kobe didnt prove he could do anything without Shaq. Heck this year it took adding Gasol to make the Lakers even look like a serious team.

No it didn't. Before 2/1/08 the Lakers had a good record. You obviously do not know what you are talking about. Gasol just added to the powerhouse that the Lakers were becoming. Bynum was pretty much unstoppable before he went down with the knee injury. You really need to think before you write.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

SO i exaggerate, i dont think they had a chance to go nearly as far this year w/o adding that other piece of the puzzle. THats the sum of my feelings, I don't blame Kobe for not being able to do it alone, but no one can do it alone, pretty much ever

The point is Kobe was doing it alone before Gasol got there. Bynum only started to play better starting this year. Who else did the Lakers have to help Kobe? Oh no, not Kwame Brown, the worst #1 pick in history. Luke Walton is just a bench player. Radmonvic is the only other people that Kobe had, and was not playing extremely until Gasol came along to take the pressure off of Kobe and him. Kobe was taking the team on his back and taking him to the playoffs the last couple of seasons way before Gasol was a thought.

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#46 jfcundiff
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I forgot to mention Lamar Odom who chokes whenever he gets the ball in the 4th quarter. The Lakers should have traded Odom for Marion or someone who could play alongside Kobe and score without choking and missing most of his shots.
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#48 hmac777
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You think the Lakers would have done as well as they did if Kobe carried the team alone? The didnt even win with the supporting cast, and people polled prior to the Finals said the Lakers were a much deeper team than the Celts.

Kobe with Bynum: 25-11
KObe Alone: 5-5
Kobe with Gasol: 27-9

Im not convinced.

Theres no real point in arguing this anymore anyway, you guys see something in him that i dont.

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#49 jfcundiff
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I'm not just talking about this season. I am talking about the past 3 or so seasons they made the playoffs without a really dominant Bynum and no Gasol. Kobe was dropping 35+ points every night almost to keep his team afloat.
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#50 jfcundiff
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I am no Kobe fan by any means. I'm just stating what it has been like the past couple of years for lakers.