Favre is Back!!!! Poll: What do you think of his legacy?

He just needed the attention. He knew what he was going to do a long time ago.

There's one thing to say I'll keep on coming back from retirement, but it's another to come back from retirement after the preseason workouts and games. It just messes with the team chemistry a little bit.Yagr_Zero

He's too much a prima-donna to go through all of camp like everyone else.

Nevermind he'll be hurt come December - while the Vikes may do much better record-wise, Favre has collapsed late-season or in the playoffs every year for a decade now. He might be a fine season quarterback when you can lose a couple - but in playoffs/1-and-done, he's been terrible.

Nevermind he demanded special treatment with the Packers before he left there ... thus they were fine letting him go when they did.

Jets found out why he was let go ... now it's the Vikings turn.

Funniest part of it is that he always played absolutely terrible in the Dome in Minneapolis. As a born Packer fan, I can only hope his streak of terrible games in that building keeps going.

I remember last year when people said it looked weird seeing Favre in the Jets jersey. Well, this looks downright wrong.

OMG are you serious?!:o

Again, he's **** back again?! It's sad to say, but this guy just won't stop until he's faced with a career ending injury. Absolutely ridiculous.

I don't think he cares about the attention, just the opposite the Vikings played it down so people would stop talking about, it's ESPN that runs with it so blame them. I don't have a problem with it, he's 40 he doesn't need to go to training camp and that's what he wanted to skip. Are the Vikings a better team now? Yes, so what's the problem? I think he wanted to come back to beat the Packers. X360PS3AMD05

Exactly. If ESPN only reported on Favre when their was actual news (like todays signing), then I doubt most people would be as tired of this story as they are right now. Thing is, I never watch ESPN :D

And I am sure he still wants to beat the Packers. I am also sure that coming to a playoff ready team didn't hurt.

I don't think he cares about the attention, just the opposite the Vikings played it down so people would stop talking about, it's ESPN that runs with it so blame them. I don't have a problem with it, he's 40 he doesn't need to go to training camp and that's what he wanted to skip. Are the Vikings a better team now? Yes, so what's the problem? I think he wanted to come back to beat the Packers. X360PS3AMD05

Interesting view on things

You think he's NOT looking for attention?

So going on Joe Buck's talk show and talking about him wanting to play again, that's not looking for attention?

The man owns acres upon acres of land but he works out on the football fields of various schools and practice only starts after a good sized audience gets there, but that's not seeking attention?

I've always been the kind of guy to think that when someone seeks out attention they're actually doing it to seek out attention

I used to like Favre but not anymore. His legacy is tarnished as far as Im concerned. Ever since the Packers let him go he has been dying to pay them back. And please dont give me the "But he still wants to play so let him!!" bs. That may be true but I feel his true intentions are to get revenge on Green Bay for moving on. Im glad the Packers got rid of this drama queen. Aaron Rodgers could not be a back up forever while Favre played the whole "Im done." crap every year just to say he wasnt done a month before the season started. Dude used to be good but not anymore. He is like a spoiled brat that hates when things dont go his way. I hope the Packers smash the Vikings and him during the two games they play this year. It will be even sweeter when one of those games happen at Green Bay. All the fans that have supported this guy must feel so stupid that he is acting like this. And to the people that think he will be good with the Vikings just look at the nosedive he did with the Jets towards the end of the year last season.

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I don't think he cares about the attention, just the opposite the Vikings played it down so people would stop talking about, it's ESPN that runs with it so blame them. I don't have a problem with it, he's 40 he doesn't need to go to training camp and that's what he wanted to skip. Are the Vikings a better team now? Yes, so what's the problem? I think he wanted to come back to beat the Packers. Jaysonguy

The man owns acres upon acres of land but he works out on the football fields of various schools and practice only starts after a good sized audience gets there, but that's not seeking attention?

Links please.

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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I don't think he cares about the attention, just the opposite the Vikings played it down so people would stop talking about, it's ESPN that runs with it so blame them. I don't have a problem with it, he's 40 he doesn't need to go to training camp and that's what he wanted to skip. Are the Vikings a better team now? Yes, so what's the problem? I think he wanted to come back to beat the Packers. limpbizkit818

The man owns acres upon acres of land but he works out on the football fields of various schools and practice only starts after a good sized audience gets there, but that's not seeking attention?

Links please.

HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!! We found our starter in Sage Rosenfels so Favre just stay home in Mississippi. flowersjf

After watching Favre last night, I still like him. Always have, always will. He gave us Packer fans so many great games and seasons that, I can't even hold playing for the Vikings against him. I liked when he said, "If you're a Packer fan you'll understand." I took it as an understated way of saying, "Did you want Rodgers to walk?"

I'm grateful for the time we had Brett Favre under center and I'm grateful for the years to come with Rodgers in the same spot.

I can't get over how old Favre looks now......... If the guy can play then let him play.Travis_Odell

HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!! We found our starter in Sage Rosenfels so Favre just stay home in Mississippi. flowersjf

This guy has come back more than Jason. Just go away Bret...

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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I don't think he cares about the attention, just the opposite the Vikings played it down so people would stop talking about, it's ESPN that runs with it so blame them. I don't have a problem with it, he's 40 he doesn't need to go to training camp and that's what he wanted to skip. Are the Vikings a better team now? Yes, so what's the problem? I think he wanted to come back to beat the Packers. limpbizkit818

The man owns acres upon acres of land but he works out on the football fields of various schools and practice only starts after a good sized audience gets there, but that's not seeking attention?

Links please.

His working out on high school fields is pretty well documented

His working out on high school fields is pretty well documented

Jaysonguy

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]His working out on high school fields is pretty well documented

Second_Rook

Yes, that's right

Because no one on Earth would ever take Brett Favre up on the offer to go to his place and work out

He has to do it in open areas and just pray that someone wants to catch a pass

Seriously?

You're going to say that he needs to go to high schools work out because that's the only place he can find people to do it?

Yes, that's right

Because no one on Earth would ever take Brett Favre up on the offer to go to his place and work out

He has to do it in open areas and just pray that someone wants to catch a pass

Seriously?

You're going to say that he needs to go to high schools work out because that's the only place he can find people to do it?

As a Viking fan, I really can't complain.tman93

[QUOTE="tman93"]As a Viking fan, I really can't complain.duxup

You might want to complain a small bit

Sage and Jackson were going to be the only 2 QB's on the team, the Vikings were planning on using that roster spot elsewhere

With Favre they can either let one of the QB's go (very small chance) or lose another position player (good chance)

It'll depend on how strong the competition is elsewhere before the season starts. If the team is really deep part of the depth will be sacrificed for the Favre experiment

[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="tman93"]As a Viking fan, I really can't complain.Jaysonguy

You might want to complain a small bit

Sage and Jackson were going to be the only 2 QB's on the team, the Vikings were planning on using that roster spot elsewhere

With Favre they can either let one of the QB's go (very small chance) or lose another position player (good chance)

It'll depend on how strong the competition is elsewhere before the season starts. If the team is really deep part of the depth will be sacrificed for the Favre experiment

Yeah, they have one less position player...who would that be, a garbage d-lineman? As much as I dislike Favre, I'd take him over whoever would have been the last roster spot. It's not like Favre is taking Adrian Peterson's spot.

[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="tman93"]As a Viking fan, I really can't complain.Jaysonguy

You might want to complain a small bit

Sage and Jackson were going to be the only 2 QB's on the team, the Vikings were planning on using that roster spot elsewhere

With Favre they can either let one of the QB's go (very small chance) or lose another position player (good chance)

It'll depend on how strong the competition is elsewhere before the season starts. If the team is really deep part of the depth will be sacrificed for the Favre experiment

I think it's a combination of all the, "he should stay retired," options with the addition of him being a very overrated QB in the first place. For one, during the era where the Packers went to the playoffs like every year he played on a good team in a weak division. Back then the Bears sucked, the Vikings sucked, and their biggest competition was the Lions who were only good because of Barry Sanders. Two, he's a gunslinger, and I don't mean that in a good way. Many of his passes he just puts up there and expects the receiver to grab, many others he fires in at a velocity that sometimes even a seasoned pro like Driver can't grab it. When he does this, if there's a defender who's got decent awareness and position, it's an interception. Not only has his interception number gone up pretty consistently for the good part of this decade, but he always did have a pretty large interception number. Hell, he's been the all-time interception leader in the NFL for years now. It especially shows when he plays a Tampa D, which thrives on generating takeaways. The Bears under Lovie, through all their ups and downs, have consistently picked Favre to the point of turning the tide of games. Everyone talks about their recent defensive downfall, but the fact is that the Tampa-2 relies on pressure from the front four to force bad throws. That pressure has dropped off recently and with it the number of takeaways from the secondary against teams that can stop the front four. Even though Favre's line protected him in the Bears' down years the secondary still picked him off. Why? He doesn't need to be pressured to make bad throws, he does that anyways. As long as there's a well-coached, aware, secondary facing him he's going to have a bad day, that is unless he completely changes his approach to quarterbacking. I wouldn't necessarily argue with even him being called a hall of famer, but I think he is WAY overrated.

By the way, I found this article in today's sports page and it perfectly says everything that the Favre-loving sports media is always too afraid to say.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-19-rosenblogaug19,0,7854052.story?obref=obinsite

How is his legacy tarnished? His records will always be there, Is he a bit of a diva, yea, but you know who made him that way---YOU, the fans. Who wouldn't have an ego living the life of a celebrated athlete/celebrity. He's not killing anyone, or animals, or doing drugs. He's just having issues with retirement---he's only 39 years old and people think it's easy to move away from something you've done all your life? It's hard for people to move away from things they love when they're 64, let alone, 39, esp. when you're good at it. You may hate the way this whole things has been handled, but you know what, the NFL is a much more interesting place with Favre, than without. And in the end, all those haters will watch Favre play against the Packers on Monday night when they otherwised wouldn't if he weren't there.

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[QUOTE="duxup"] Same here. It is worth a shot. Dude may not work out, oh well. The alternatives were not that great and they'll still be there if Favre doesn't work out.duxup

You might want to complain a small bit

Sage and Jackson were going to be the only 2 QB's on the team, the Vikings were planning on using that roster spot elsewhere

With Favre they can either let one of the QB's go (very small chance) or lose another position player (good chance)

It'll depend on how strong the competition is elsewhere before the season starts. If the team is really deep part of the depth will be sacrificed for the Favre experiment

True but Tom Brady was a 6th round pick, TD was a 6th round pick, and this season the standout rookie from the Pat's second day is 7th round pick Julian Edleman. You never know where those special players will come from.

In a more "what have you done for me lately" way of things, right now the Pats have 4TE's that could be the number 1 or 2 guys on any other team in the league. Now losing a roster spot for someone like that is huge. Or on the line when you want to go 9 deep but losing a roster spot means that someone is going to have to do triple duty.

On a stacked team like the Vikings chances are that roster spot will be taken away from someone who could contribute during the season, with getting Favre it's now going for a player that wont contribute at all this season and may be gone by the time they're needed.

It's Sage's 8th year in the league and he'll be 33 by the time Favre's contract is over. On the other hand Jackson is only in his third year so he'll be in his fifth year when Favre's contract is over. The problem is that he's never been able to carry the number one spot (hello Mr Favre) so what kind of QB will he be in 2 years with little work?

There's a lot of "ifs" in all of this

I watch MNF every week anywaysnot because Favre is playing but because I love football. He is a diva, every single year for I don't know how long he has played this game, going back to when he was with the Packers. It's not that he is indecisive, it's that he feeds the media circus surrounding him. He's probably known since he had surgery that he was going to play but instead of just coming out and saying it, instead of showing up at team practices if for nothing else than to try and help his teamates develop and get to know the playbook, instead of being a part of a team he was being Favre, the traveling circus show. It's ridiculous.

As for his records, if you actually look at his records they're not as good as everyone makes him out to be. He's a very inaccurate passer, his passer rating last year was worse than Tavaris Jackson's, he is the all-time interception leader, and the reason he holds records for overall yards and passing TD's is simply because he was able to remain healthy for so long. Dan Marino, who's had a couple of records broken by Favre, was a much more accurate passer who was calmer under pressure than Favre is, yet he gets a hell of a lot less acclaim than Favre because he didn't play in a venue where people turned him into a god and he did't win a ring.

[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

You might want to complain a small bit

Sage and Jackson were going to be the only 2 QB's on the team, the Vikings were planning on using that roster spot elsewhere

With Favre they can either let one of the QB's go (very small chance) or lose another position player (good chance)

It'll depend on how strong the competition is elsewhere before the season starts. If the team is really deep part of the depth will be sacrificed for the Favre experiment

Jaysonguy

True but Tom Brady was a 6th round pick, TD was a 6th round pick, and this season the standout rookie from the Pat's second day is 7th round pick Julian Edleman. You never know where those special players will come from.

In a more "what have you done for me lately" way of things, right now the Pats have 4TE's that could be the number 1 or 2 guys on any other team in the league. Now losing a roster spot for someone like that is huge. Or on the line when you want to go 9 deep but losing a roster spot means that someone is going to have to do triple duty.

On a stacked team like the Vikings chances are that roster spot will be taken away from someone who could contribute during the season, with getting Favre it's now going for a player that wont contribute at all this season and may be gone by the time they're needed.

It's Sage's 8th year in the league and he'll be 33 by the time Favre's contract is over. On the other hand Jackson is only in his third year so he'll be in his fifth year when Favre's contract is over. The problem is that he's never been able to carry the number one spot (hello Mr Favre) so what kind of QB will he be in 2 years with little work?

There's a lot of "ifs" in all of this

For one, during the era where the Packers went to the playoffs like every year he played on a good team in a weak division. Back then the Bears sucked, the Vikings sucked, and

theone86

Did you not wacth football in the late 90's :lol:

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The man owns acres upon acres of land but he works out on the football fields of various schools and practice only starts after a good sized audience gets there, but that's not seeking attention?

Jaysonguy

Links please.

His working out on high school fields is pretty well documented

As for his records, if you actually look at his records they're not as good as everyone makes him out to be. He's a very inaccurate passer, his passer rating last year was worse than Tavaris Jackson's, he is the all-time interception leader, and the reason he holds records for overall yards and passing TD's is simply because he was able to remain healthy for so long. Dan Marino, who's had a couple of records broken by Favre, was a much more accurate passer who was calmer under pressure than Favre is, yet he gets a hell of a lot less acclaim than Favre because he didn't play in a venue where people turned him into a god and he did't win a ring.

theone86

Dan Marino played for 17 years :|

That's the only reason Dan broke the records: he played at an elevated level for a long period of time. That's how Manning is going to break Favre's records. Why is playing good for a long period of time a bad thing?

Also, Jackson only started 5 games last season.

You might want to complain a small bit

Sage and Jackson were going to be the only 2 QB's on the team, the Vikings were planning on using that roster spot elsewhere

With Favre they can either let one of the QB's go (very small chance) or lose another position player (good chance)

It'll depend on how strong the competition is elsewhere before the season starts. If the team is really deep part of the depth will be sacrificed for the Favre experiment

[QUOTE="theone86"]

As for his records, if you actually look at his records they're not as good as everyone makes him out to be. He's a very inaccurate passer, his passer rating last year was worse than Tavaris Jackson's, he is the all-time interception leader, and the reason he holds records for overall yards and passing TD's is simply because he was able to remain healthy for so long. Dan Marino, who's had a couple of records broken by Favre, was a much more accurate passer who was calmer under pressure than Favre is, yet he gets a hell of a lot less acclaim than Favre because he didn't play in a venue where people turned him into a god and he did't win a ring.

limpbizkit818

Dan Marino played for 17 years :|

That's the only reason Dan broke the records: he played at an elevated level for a long period of time. That's how Manning is going to break Favre's records. Why is playing good for a long period of time a bad thing?

Also, Jackson only started 5 games last season.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I'm saying that Favre isn't an accurate passer, which he isn't. Favre broke Marino's records in less than 17 years, mostly because he was healthy. Many other QBs get acclaim for being able to thread the needle and hit a receiver anywhere on the field, Favre simply can't do that. His strategy is simply to gun the ball wherever the receiver is and hope the receiver comes up with the ball. Sometimes that means a huge downfield reception and sometimes it means an interception that goes back the other way for an equally as large gain. It just bothers me that people go nuts over Favre when they pay little attention to QB's like Marino, Aikman, Young, and Montana. In fact, you could probably find a decent number of QB's whose names never come up in as many discussions as Favre's who had better passer ratings but played in less games and therefore didn't have as many yards or TD's.

[QUOTE="theone86"] For one, during the era where the Packers went to the playoffs like every year he played on a good team in a weak division. Back then the Bears sucked, the Vikings sucked, and

limpbizkit818

Did you not wacth football in the late 90's :lol:

What part are you disagreeing with, the Vikings? The Bears certainly sucked. They went to the playoffs like what, once, during the Wansdett period and then once more under Jauron. Lions won the division in 91 and 93 and had appearances in 94, 95, 97, and 99. Packers took the division 95-97 and didn't miss a payoff appearance from 93-98, plus they went farther in the playoffs than the Vikes, winning the bowl in 96 and getting back in 97. The Vikes lost two wild card games and two NFC Championship games. Either way, it was not a very competitive division and when the Pack took the division the Vikes were usually having a bad year. in 95 the Pack won with an 11-5 record and Minnesota was 8-8. In 96 they were 13-3 and Minnesota was 9-7. In 97 they had the same records. Favre had a good team around him and they won their division usually by a margin of like three games, not like in the current East or South where a game or two makes the difference or in last year's NFC North where Minnesota was one Bears' win away from losing the division.Whether the Vikes sucked or not was not my point, my point was that Favre did not carry his entire team.

I don't buy into the tarnishing of his career thing.

Dude did a great job when he was QB. Less so later in his career. He is also likes attention... too much.

Compared with dog fighting, steroids, running dude's over in his car. That's not a bad deal.

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[QUOTE="theone86"]

As for his records, if you actually look at his records they're not as good as everyone makes him out to be. He's a very inaccurate passer, his passer rating last year was worse than Tavaris Jackson's, he is the all-time interception leader, and the reason he holds records for overall yards and passing TD's is simply because he was able to remain healthy for so long. Dan Marino, who's had a couple of records broken by Favre, was a much more accurate passer who was calmer under pressure than Favre is, yet he gets a hell of a lot less acclaim than Favre because he didn't play in a venue where people turned him into a god and he did't win a ring.

theone86

Dan Marino played for 17 years :|

That's the only reason Dan broke the records: he played at an elevated level for a long period of time. That's how Manning is going to break Favre's records. Why is playing good for a long period of time a bad thing?

Also, Jackson only started 5 games last season.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I'm saying that Favre isn't an accurate passer, which he isn't. Favre broke Marino's records in less than 17 years, mostly because he was healthy. Many other QBs get acclaim for being able to thread the needle and hit a receiver anywhere on the field, Favre simply can't do that. His strategy is simply to gun the ball wherever the receiver is and hope the receiver comes up with the ball. Sometimes that means a huge downfield reception and sometimes it means an interception that goes back the other way for an equally as large gain. It just bothers me that people go nuts over Favre when they pay little attention to QB's like Marino, Aikman, Young, and Montana. In fact, you could probably find a decent number of QB's whose names never come up in as many discussions as Favre's who had better passer ratings but played in less games and therefore didn't have as many yards or TD's.

I am not sure what numbers you are looking at: Favre has a higher completion percentage than Marino and Aikman. Also, who pays little attention to any of those 4 QB's you listened? Heck if you ask me Montana is the best QB of all time. Favre does has a reputation of just throwing it up but back in the day, the dude could throw the football. I still remember watching Favre back in the 90's (and is the reason I am still a fan today); he was dam good and could "thread the needle". There is a reason he won the MVP award 3 years in a row.

I think he should have stayed retired once he announced with the packers. Now his legacy is tarnished.

That wont keep him at all from the Hall of Fame of course, but people of our generation will remember forever his 2 years(maybe more ? :o ) of being a drama queen.

It amazes me how much people care about what others do. Let the man do what he loves, play football. Why the **** would that tarnish anything?