How about those Patriots!

Hell of a game. Lucky or not, you have to be a good team to force a fumble, and you have to be able to capitalize on mistakes and the Patriots did just that, regardless if the Bills lost the game. Your thoughts...

Exciting but yeah luck founded on sticking them self in a hole against a bad team.

What about them? Judging from the scoreboard it looks like they barely escaped.

What about them? Judging from the scoreboard it looks like they barely escaped.

Renegade_Fury

Yeah, that game was mediocre at best. They are very lucky to get away with it and it's sad that ESPN is trying to pretend like Brady did something amazing. They got lucky, end of story.

im thinking they look very beatable for the week 3 matchup for my falcons. seriously we are 3 times better then buffalo. we are gonna give the pats fits.

the patriots barely beat the bills...what happens when they go up against a playoff contender?

and i knew what i was doing when i picked up fred jackson =P

That win was 100% skill, no luck involved

It was great to see Brady and the Pats back how they're supposed to be in the 4th quarter. It took a long time to shake off the rust but once it was off holy moley lol

The worst part is the way ESPN is reacting to this: "ZOMG THE BRADY MAGIC IS BACK!" "HE DID IT AGAIN!" No, Brady got the ball on the 20 and threw 1 pass. There was no magic and Brady did not win this game for them. Argggggggggggggh I hate you ESPN.limpbizkit818

But he threw just one pass! ONE PASS!

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]The worst part is the way ESPN is reacting to this: "ZOMG THE BRADY MAGIC IS BACK!" "HE DID IT AGAIN!" No, Brady got the ball on the 20 and threw 1 pass. There was no magic and Brady did not win this game for them. Argggggggggggggh I hate you ESPN.CJL13

But he threw just one pass! ONE PASS!

Of course it was all Tom Brady, not a total screw up by the Bills special teams coach. Might wanna tell that guy to take the touchback next time. I loved the way that Brady was a total douche to the sideline reporter after the game too. Second_Rook

Yeah, I think Brady felt that the Patriots stole the game and didn't really feel like a "hero".

DAMMIT!

The Bills won that game. The pats go lucky. The saddest part was they put us against the Pats on monday night football because they "knew" theyd destroy us. Then they act like Brady's a hero for simple passes i couldve made.

Same thing happened to us against friggin' Dallas in 07. SAME SCORE TOO

The pats are nothin but lucky punks.

I personally loved that game, thought it was a really good game to watch. Obviously the last five minutes was the major entartainment. As for Brady, I think he deserves some credit. I mean five minutes to go andmost people had counted the patriots out and he marched his team down to score. Then he did it again, even after the fumble recovery there was no gaurentee they would score. Be fair it takes a franchise qb to do what brady did, could others have doen that obviously, but quiet a few (i would go so far as to say at least half the NFL starters) could not.

Nevertheless I still feel the kickoff unit deserves the credit for stealing a game that the patriots had no business winning. Anyways I will agree that New england needs to work because they wont beat the steelers, giants or other superbowl contenders with that tpye of effort. However I feel its fair to say new england looked rusty not finishing drives (settlign for two fgs)and that the patriots will be a much stronger team in a few weeks.

[QUOTE="CJL13"]

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]The worst part is the way ESPN is reacting to this: "ZOMG THE BRADY MAGIC IS BACK!" "HE DID IT AGAIN!" No, Brady got the ball on the 20 and threw 1 pass. There was no magic and Brady did not win this game for them. Argggggggggggggh I hate you ESPN.starwarsjunky

But he threw just one pass! ONE PASS!

DAMMIT!

The Bills won that game. The pats go lucky. The saddest part was they put us against the Pats on monday night football because they "knew" theyd destroy us. Then they act like Brady's a hero for simple passes i couldve made.

Same thing happened to us against friggin' Dallas in 07. SAME SCORE TOO

The pats are nothin but lucky punks.

MetallicSoap

Not at all

The Bills were the ones who got lucky

They got one of the premiere teams in all of sports before they were up to speed. The Bills had the luck of taking on the Pats with a rusty Tom Brady and a week from the trade of Richard Seymour. The Bills got another break because Mayo went down early.

If the Bill won would anyone bring that up? The Bills had the deck stacked in their favor for the opening night of Monday night football to make headlines the next day

The play at the end of the game was skill. That's done in practice over and over and over. You hold the ball carrier up and you strip the ball, the thing is that one person usually holds the carrier and someone snags the ball but last night one guy did both.

The Bills had all the luck and even with that luck on their side they couldn't take down a proven winner

I personally loved that game, thought it was a really good game to watch. Obviously the last five minutes was the major entartainment. As for Brady, I think he deserves some credit. I mean five minutes to go andmost people had counted the patriots out and he marched his team down to score. Then he did it again, even after the fumble recovery there was no gaurentee they would score. Be fair it takes a franchise qb to do what brady did, could others have doen that obviously, but quiet a few (i would go so far as to say at least half the NFL starters) could not.

Nevertheless I still feel the kickoff unit deserves the credit for stealing a game that the patriots had no business winning. Anyways I will agree that New england needs to work because they wont beat the steelers, giants or other superbowl contenders with that tpye of effort. However I feel its fair to say new england looked rusty not finishing drives (settlign for two fgs)and that the patriots will be a much stronger team in a few weeks.

RahXephon101

Dont worry, Jets gonna "Rex" em next week.Tjeremiah1988

Brady threw for 380 yards, 2 TDs, and had a QB rating of nearly 100...

He may not be at his best, but he is still better than most.

The Patriots did get lucky that McKelvin fumbled, but the Bills were lucky to even be in the game. The Patriots will have to play better to beat the Jests next week.

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][QUOTE="CJL13"]

But he threw just one pass! ONE PASS!

limpbizkit818

[QUOTE="MetallicSoap"]

DAMMIT!

The Bills won that game. The pats go lucky. The saddest part was they put us against the Pats on monday night football because they "knew" theyd destroy us. Then they act like Brady's a hero for simple passes i couldve made.

Same thing happened to us against friggin' Dallas in 07. SAME SCORE TOO

The pats are nothin but lucky punks.

Jaysonguy

Not at all

The Bills were the ones who got lucky

They got one of the premiere teams in all of sports before they were up to speed. The Bills had the luck of taking on the Pats with a rusty Tom Brady and a week from the trade of Richard Seymour. The Bills got another break because Mayo went down early.

If the Bill won would anyone bring that up? The Bills had the deck stacked in their favor for the opening night of Monday night football to make headlines the next day

The play at the end of the game was skill. That's done in practice over and over and over. You hold the ball carrier up and you strip the ball, the thing is that one person usually holds the carrier and someone snags the ball but last night one guy did both.

The Bills had all the luck and even with that luck on their side they couldn't take down a proven winner

So I guess the Bills weren't too rusty either, being it the first game of season considering there were a lot of sloppy games in Week 1. The Bills were lucky? How about losing Paul Posluszny to a broken arm and Chris Kelsay hurting his knee? Not to mention firing their offensive cooridinator after the preseason? C'mon now, McKelvin fumbles and it gave the Patriots awesome field position to work with...that's luck right there.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="MetallicSoap"]

DAMMIT!

The Bills won that game. The pats go lucky. The saddest part was they put us against the Pats on monday night football because they "knew" theyd destroy us. Then they act like Brady's a hero for simple passes i couldve made.

Same thing happened to us against friggin' Dallas in 07. SAME SCORE TOO

The pats are nothin but lucky punks.

Los9090

Not at all

The Bills were the ones who got lucky

They got one of the premiere teams in all of sports before they were up to speed. The Bills had the luck of taking on the Pats with a rusty Tom Brady and a week from the trade of Richard Seymour. The Bills got another break because Mayo went down early.

If the Bill won would anyone bring that up? The Bills had the deck stacked in their favor for the opening night of Monday night football to make headlines the next day

The play at the end of the game was skill. That's done in practice over and over and over. You hold the ball carrier up and you strip the ball, the thing is that one person usually holds the carrier and someone snags the ball but last night one guy did both.

The Bills had all the luck and even with that luck on their side they couldn't take down a proven winner

So I guess the Bills weren't too rusty either, being it the first game of season considering there were a lot of sloppy games in Week 1. The Bills were lucky? How about losing Paul Posluszny to a broken arm and Chris Kelsay hurting his knee? Not to mention firing their offensive cooridinator after the preseason? C'mon now, McKelvin fumbles and it gave the Patriots awesome field position to work with...that's luck right there.

They showed me why they aren't a contender, they could only beat the Bills after a little bit of luck.

They showed me why they aren't a contender, they could only beat the Bills after a little bit of luck.

PiTPenguins2787

[QUOTE="PiTPenguins2787"]

They showed me why they aren't a contender, they could only beat the Bills after a little bit of luck.

LordMaiden

The worst part is the way ESPN is reacting to this: "ZOMG THE BRADY MAGIC IS BACK!" "HE DID IT AGAIN!" No, Brady got the ball on the 20 and threw 1 pass. There was no magic and Brady did not win this game for them. Argggggggggggggh I hate you ESPN.limpbizkit818

Thank you, finally someone says this. It was a fluke win.

Nice username by the way.

It was a fluke win.

ShuichiChamp24

Just like that 2007 Super Bowl.

Oh, wait, in the mind of Brady haters, fluke wins only happen for the Patriots and not against.

[QUOTE="ShuichiChamp24"]

It was a fluke win.

LordMaiden

Just like that 2007 Super Bowl.

Oh, wait, in the mind of Brady haters, fluke wins only happen for the Patriots and not against.

Wait Wait, the good teams "find" ways to win. Right?

[QUOTE="LordMaiden"]

[QUOTE="ShuichiChamp24"]

It was a fluke win.

Los9090

Just like that 2007 Super Bowl.

Oh, wait, in the mind of Brady haters, fluke wins only happen for the Patriots and not against.

Wait Wait, the good teams "find" ways to win. Right?

[QUOTE="Los9090"]

[QUOTE="LordMaiden"]

Just like that 2007 Super Bowl.

Oh, wait, in the mind of Brady haters, fluke wins only happen for the Patriots and not against.

LordMaiden

Wait Wait, the good teams "find" ways to win. Right?

McKelvin's fumble was not a fluke, but it was more "luck" that the Pats were able to strip the ball from him. And an obvious brainfart on McKelvin to not take a knee.

[QUOTE="LordMaiden"][QUOTE="Los9090"]

Wait Wait, the good teams "find" ways to win. Right?

Los9090

McKelvin's fumble was not a fluke, but it was more "luck" that the Pats were able to strip the ball from him. And an obvious brainfart on McKelvin to not take a knee.

Then I will say the INT by Buffalo was luck too. Because whenever a turnover happens from the other team forcing it, it's purely luck.

[QUOTE="Los9090"]

[QUOTE="LordMaiden"] I'm not putting down the Giants. The Patriots didn't deserve to win that game. I'm just arguing rationale. I've heard so many people say the Buffalo game was a fluke but nobody who says that will apply the same reasoning to the SB. It's as simple as Patriot hating. If the NE return team STRIPS the ball and causes a TD drive, it's a fluke. If a receiver catches a football on his helmet, than his team MUST be better.LordMaiden

McKelvin's fumble was not a fluke, but it was more "luck" that the Pats were able to strip the ball from him. And an obvious brainfart on McKelvin to not take a knee.

Then I will say the INT by Buffalo was luck too. Because whenever a turnover happens from the other team forcing it, it's purely luck.

The FF at that point in the game and in that situation was lucky. Especially the excellent field position the Pats got. Face it, you know it...but that's sports for ya, the Broncos got lucky vs. the Bengals obviously.

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"] once you sit out a year, you have to PROVE you still have it. he did not do this last night. respect is earned, not given.LordMaiden

The hate is getting old? It's only week 1 :lol:

And it is a fair assumption to make. Anyone who believes that the Patriots are the best team in the NFL after week 1 is delusional.

And it is a fair assumption to make. Anyone who believes that the Patriots are the best team in the NFL after week 1 is delusional.

limpbizkit818

I don't think you understand the point behind the rankings as they are right now. Exactly what teams do you think should be placed in the top 5?

Here is ESPN's week 2 power rankings: http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings?year=2009&week=2

First off, notice who is not #1

Second, tell me exactly why none of those top five teams should not be there? And if any of those teams lose this weekend, do you think the rankings will be the same?

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

And it is a fair assumption to make. Anyone who believes that the Patriots are the best team in the NFL after week 1 is delusional.

LordMaiden

I don't think you understand the point behind the rankings as they are right now. Exactly what teams do you think should be placed in the top 5?

Here is ESPN's week 2 power rankings: http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings?year=2009&week=2

First off, notice who is not #1

Second, tell me exactly why none of those top five teams should not be there? And if any of those teams lose this weekend, do you think the rankings will be the same?

[QUOTE="LordMaiden"]

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

And it is a fair assumption to make. Anyone who believes that the Patriots are the best team in the NFL after week 1 is delusional.

starwarsjunky

I don't think you understand the point behind the rankings as they are right now. Exactly what teams do you think should be placed in the top 5?

Here is ESPN's week 2 power rankings: http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings?year=2009&week=2

First off, notice who is not #1

Second, tell me exactly why none of those top five teams should not be there? And if any of those teams lose this weekend, do you think the rankings will be the same?

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][QUOTE="LordMaiden"]

I don't think you understand the point behind the rankings as they are right now. Exactly what teams do you think should be placed in the top 5?

Here is ESPN's week 2 power rankings: http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings?year=2009&week=2

First off, notice who is not #1

Second, tell me exactly why none of those top five teams should not be there? And if any of those teams lose this weekend, do you think the rankings will be the same?

LordMaiden

1. the rankings go off of how they did last year and what offseason changes they've had. not just W's and L's

2. by your own logic of wins and losses, the 49ers belong above the titans.

3. if it were up to me, id put tennessee as the #2 team. thats where i truly think they belong.

and keep in mind these rankings are just put there by so-called experts. which means they know as much as most of the people watching the game, but they know how to write and/or have interesting opinions.