How to change Baseball and make it a better game

[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="metswonin69"] That certainly would be an excellent way to destroy a sport. You also do realize that the playoffs are almost 100% luck right? So even the Yankees only have around a 15% chance of winning the World Series each year. metswonin69

You do realize that in the past 22 World Series only twice has the team with the best record in baseball ended up winning?

I'd just like to add that those two teams were the 1998 and 2009 Yankees. :P

[QUOTE="metswonin69"]

[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"] There is a tad of luck in winning, but your statistic is just flat out wrong. The Phillies didn't go to the World Series in back to back years out of luck, and the Yankees winning it all was no surprise to anyone. They were a 103 win juggernaut. DA_B0MB

You do realize that in the past 22 World Series only twice has the team with the best record in baseball ended up winning?

I'd just like to add that those two teams were the 1998 and 2009 Yankees. :P

I would also like to add that Wild Card teams have won the World Series four times since 1995, and no matter how you spin it they could never be considered to be the best team in baseball. As previously stated, the team with the best record in baseball only won two World Series during that time period.

Playoffs are 100% luck? That's why the team with the higher payroll wins 70% of the time :lol: And yes Selig gets away with it because it isn't as obvious in this sport when a team is so much better than another. Also i always disagree with the notion "the best doesn't always win" yack yack yack YES THEY DO, that's why you have a tournament, to settle it, this isn't college football. No matter how you spin it :roll: they won the World Series = Best Team period.X360PS3AMD05

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

I have come up with the solution on how to make Baseball a better game for more teams and the entire league including the fan base. Its a very simple strategy and it will work. Let the Yankees win the world series for the next 10 years or so and have all the other teams throw in the towel when they play the Yankees. This way the Yankees will get tired of winning and realize that they are ruining baseball with what they are doing by having 75% of their team be an all star team. Its not right having their team being paid 2 or 3 times as much as other teams. And in some cases I have head that specific players on the Yankees make more money than other mlb teams.

metswonin69

Baseball already is ruined. In past 100 years the Yankees have been in the world series 40 times. And won 27 of those times making the Yankees have a winning percentage of 68% whenever they get to a world series.

The Yankees have more than double the appearances in a world series than any other team in the entire MLB.

There are 13 teams in the MLB who have only been to the world series twice or less in the past 100 years of the MLB.

Its very clear in Baseball that the level of talent per a team is very unevenly distributed.

[QUOTE="metswonin69"][QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

I have come up with the solution on how to make Baseball a better game for more teams and the entire league including the fan base. Its a very simple strategy and it will work. Let the Yankees win the world series for the next 10 years or so and have all the other teams throw in the towel when they play the Yankees. This way the Yankees will get tired of winning and realize that they are ruining baseball with what they are doing by having 75% of their team be an all star team. Its not right having their team being paid 2 or 3 times as much as other teams. And in some cases I have head that specific players on the Yankees make more money than other mlb teams.

Sonwhy

Baseball already is ruined. In past 100 years the Yankees have been in the world series 40 times. And won 27 of those times making the Yankees have a winning percentage of 68% whenever they get to a world series.

The Yankees have more than double the appearances in a world series than any other team in the entire MLB.

There are 13 teams in the MLB who have only been to the world series twice or less in the past 100 years of the MLB.

Its very clear in Baseball that the level of talent per a team is very unevenly distributed.

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="metswonin69"] That certainly would be an excellent way to destroy a sport. You also do realize that the playoffs are almost 100% luck right? So even the Yankees only have around a 15% chance of winning the World Series each year. metswonin69

Baseball already is ruined. In past 100 years the Yankees have been in the world series 40 times. And won 27 of those times making the Yankees have a winning percentage of 68% whenever they get to a world series.

The Yankees have more than double the appearances in a world series than any other team in the entire MLB.

There are 13 teams in the MLB who have only been to the world series twice or less in the past 100 years of the MLB.

Its very clear in Baseball that the level of talent per a team is very unevenly distributed.

Its funny how you can just choose a particular year right after they had won the world series twice before that year. Usually after a team has consistently won it all back to back or three times. A team will usually not keep that up or win another for awhile. Its not just about winning the world series its about making it to the world series and the Yankees do that way too often.

Its not the Yankees winning that makes me mad but how they win. If they can win on a fair playing field then so be it but they have never done that to date at least not any time recently.

[QUOTE="metswonin69"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

Baseball already is ruined. In past 100 years the Yankees have been in the world series 40 times. And won 27 of those times making the Yankees have a winning percentage of 68% whenever they get to a world series.

The Yankees have more than double the appearances in a world series than any other team in the entire MLB.

There are 13 teams in the MLB who have only been to the world series twice or less in the past 100 years of the MLB.

Its very clear in Baseball that the level of talent per a team is very unevenly distributed.

Sonwhy

Its funny how you can just choose a particular year right after they had won the world series twice before that year. Usually after a team has consistently won it all back to back or three times. A team will usually not keep that up or win another for awhile. Its not just about winning the world series its about making it to the world series and the Yankees do that way too often.

Its not the Yankees winning that makes me mad but how they win. If they can win on a fair playing field then so be it but they have never done that to date at least not any time recently.

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]^OMG wow? You're saying they don't care about winning as much just because they don't have the biggest revenue stream that helps them buy players? :lol: [QUOTE="metswonin69"] So the 2006 Cardinals were the best team, period? Honestly if you had put them in a better division, they probably would not have finished at .500 that year.metswonin69

You don't have any proof that if more teams were to start paying more that it would result in more balance in MLB. In reality this is already going on where more teams are paying more money and all it creates is a bidding war that the Yankees will just continue to win. Its going to take more than some type of bidding war change the MLB becuz that is currently what is in place and its only making things worse. There has to be some type of restrictions on how much money you can pay for a team and it will have to include a min and a max. Like min 50 million to a max of 65 million. Obviously you can't spread out the min and max by too much or else it creates an inbalance like what is currently in place.

Baseball should not be determind by how much money an owner is willing to spend on their team.

My point was that you don't know how the Cards would have done in another division, saying one is the "best" is just an opinion, that's why we have 5 and 7 game series in October to decide it. Also i just realized in 06 those Cards beat your Mets in a Game 7, don't be hatin :lol:X360PS3AMD05

[QUOTE="metswonin69"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"] Then there's bias, in the past few years the NL west has gotten lots of hate and clearly last year we were the best division in the NL, would any east coast analyst admit that? Probably not, the Cards are in the NL Central boohoo, they won the tournament. Sonwhy

You don't have any proof that if more teams were to start paying more that it would result in more balance in MLB. In reality this is already going on where more teams are paying more money and all it creates is a bidding war that the Yankees will just continue to win. Its going to take more than some type of bidding war change the MLB becuz that is currently what is in place and its only making things worse. There has to be some type of restrictions on how much money you can pay for a team and it will have to include a min and a max. Like min 50 million to a max of 65 million. Obviously you can't spread out the min and max by too much or else it creates an inbalance like what is currently in place.

Baseball should not be determind by how much money an owner is willing to spend on their team.

They wouldn't have been but they were, this is like Pats fans whining when they won 11 games and didn't make it, tough that's how the divisions are aligned. ^ :lol: Awesome, the Yankees make a ton more money than other teams, i wonder if that has to do with their so called "care of winning".......X360PS3AMD05

Get rid of the DH, make the pitcher hit. That's what I'd change. CleanPlayer

I think that was because of the WBC, maybe they should go back to 154 games.........X360PS3AMD05

Rebuttal: there's no such thing as a poor owner.

The problem isn't that the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Angels, etc. spend a lot. The real problem is that the Pirates, Marlins, etc. spend so little.

Fun fact: the franchise with the highest income in 2008 was the Florida Marlins. Others cracking the top 10 include low spending Nationals, Rays, Twins, and Athletics. The Yankees were second to last.

Oleg_Huzwog

I know I'm late but big lol@the Angels spending a lot.

So that must be why Moreno ships off his good players to other teams when they ask for raises.Apostle92627

"big lol", eh? Angels' recent payroll ranks:

• 2004 - 3rd
• 2005 - 4th
• 2006 - 3rd
• 2007 - 4th
• 2008 - 6th
• 2009 - 6th

Baseball should add cheerleaders, it would increase attendance and broaden the audienceCleanPlayer

Yeah, I'm probably weird, but I can't stand cheerleaders whatsoever. I'm happy the Steelers don't have them. I mean, you've got 64,000 people drunk out of their minds, screaming their heads off... how would a few more girls with pom poms help to cheer the team on?

Baseball should add cheerleaders, it would increase attendance and broaden the audienceCleanPlayer

The Marlins have cheerleaders called the Mermaids. Not really typical cheerleaders, but they come out a few times a game and dance on the dugouts. They actually have fat guy cheerleaders as well called the Manatees. Pretty hilarious actually.

They actually have fat guy cheerleaders as well called the Manatees.yokofox33

This is the greatest idea I've ever heard ever ever.

[QUOTE="yokofox33"]They actually have fat guy cheerleaders as well called the Manatees.Oleg_Huzwog

This is the greatest idea I've ever heard ever ever.

For your viewing pleasure.

[QUOTE="CleanPlayer"]Baseball should add cheerleaders, it would increase attendance and broaden the audienceyokofox33

The Marlins have cheerleaders called the Mermaids. Not really typical cheerleaders, but they come out a few times a game and dance on the dugouts. They actually have fat guy cheerleaders as well called the Manatees. Pretty hilarious actually.

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I think that was because of the WBC, maybe they should go back to 154 games.........Master_Live

[QUOTE="Master_Live"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I think that was because of the WBC, maybe they should go back to 154 games.........X360PS3AMD05

Have the World Series champion play Japan's champion. CleanPlayer

[QUOTE="CleanPlayer"]Have the World Series champion play Japan's champion. Master_Live

Yes they play fewer games so each one is 10X important, but still a regular season game can beat game 7 of the world series, that shows you something. The pats where just a dominant team this past decade, other then them only the Steelers won more then one.. so whats your point? You had 7 different teams win the Super bowl, how is that not parody? MLB had 9 different teams win in that period, pretty close, and if you take into account they had the Yanks win 3 out of 4 years right before 2000.. MLB is just the same.

Yes they play fewer games so each one is 10X important, but still a regular season game can beat game 7 of the world series, that shows you something. The pats where just a dominant team this past decade, other then them only the Steelers won more then one.. so whats your point? You had 7 different teams win the Super bowl, how is that not parody? MLB had 9 different teams win in that period, pretty close, and if you take into account they had the Yanks win 3 out of 4 years right before 2000.. MLB is just the same.

fastr

Sure if you go back far enough, but i'm pretty sure the whole parity thing is newer then that. Still tho, the Yanks win half your world series anyways, so its just as bad. Baseball is much worse then either sport tho. fastr

The only appealing part of baseball for me ( my team hasnt been good since the mid 90's ) is rooting for whoever is playing the yankees.

I would actually say that watching the yankees lose to a team who's payroll they quadruple is more enjoyable than it would be to see MY team win anything.

ok, fine, the Yankees have won 1/4 overall of you're world series, does that actually make you feel any better? 1970 balt, 1971 balt 1972 oak, 1973 oak, 1974 oak, 1975 cin, 1976 cin, 1977 NY, 1978 NY, 1979 and 80 more repeats.. that was just a random decade I looked at on wiki.. so yeah.. lots of parody there. There have been 16 super bowls since the salary cap was implemented.. 12 different teams have won since then. Thats pretty good. fastr

NFL has twice the sample size, give it some time and lets see, The yanks will probably win again next year anyways. fastr