I Don't See How People Can Claim Michael Vick Served His Time

People commit rape or DUI murder and serve less than him.

People kill animals everyday "legally", that's what hunting is.

I won't say he deserved less or more than he got, but American justice is messed up.

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Your complaining about Vick's return to the NFL after 2 years fordogfightingwhen Donte Stallworth KILLED A MAN while driving intoxicated and got 24 DAYS in jail.

Jaysonguy

If Stallworth was sober that man still would have died from running out in front of his car

I find it funny how JaysonGuy defends Stallworth but is on the complete other end of the spectrum for VickColin1192

I don't defend him, I understand the situation because I allow myself to look at all the facts

Sober or not the man that ran out in front of that car was going to die. There's just no way around it. There's no "oh he could have done this or that"

No

That man was dead no matter what Stallworth was doing. They broke down the scene in every single way possible and found out that there was no way anyone could prevent that pedestrian from dying that day.

If Stallworth's condition had in any way contributed to the death of that pedestrian he would have faced a harsher sentence.

EVERYONE ON THIS POST NEEDS TO GET THEIR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!! Vick didn't get 2 years for DOG FIGHTING, he got 2 years for being the HEAD, meaning FUNDING/BANKROLLING and illegal gambling operation that had 100's of thousands of dollars changing hands all while being an INTERSTATE COMMERCE offense. On top of that he lied to the feds about the situation. When you lie to the feds and they catch you, it is guaranteed you will get a harsher sentence. He could of done everything the same way and been honest from the start and wouldn't have got more than a 1 year sentence and would have been out in 8 months.

Once again, as discpicable as the killing of the dogs was, that wasn't his PRIMARY penalty. He did get in trouble for that, but the 2 years WAS NOT for killing dogs

Its incredible how people are protesting Vick's return when Dante Stallworth killed a PERSON because he was driving intoxicated.II-FBIsniper-II

how is 30 days ok for donte stallworth...thats what i want to knowchAzN93

First off let me start by saying I'm not a football fan and I'm not fully against Vick, I think it's a very complex gray issue that has to unroll some more. But I'm a little shocked how many people (mainly football fans) claim that he "served his time". I don't see how someone can look at his crimes and look at his prison sentence and think they match in any way. People get 1 1/2 year sentences for minor drug charges not for massive multi-state, thousands of dollars, high stakes dog fighting operations that went on for 5+ years. It's like the difference between being caught and arrested for a small bag of weed versus growing a massive plantation of weed. It's a massive difference.

In all reality take away his name, money, fame, and any other external factors that could change the outcome of the dog fighting charages that Vick faced. To me at very least he should serve 5 or so years in prison, that's including with pleas and all that other legal stuff. Some football fans seem to feel that if he's rehabilitated and trully sorry for what he did that he should be free and it's blows me away since it's not just about remose and regret, there is a level of "debt" to soceity that is simply not met with a 1 1/2 year sentencein prison.

Dont get me wrong I think he should have a second chance but it is shocking that you can kill dogs in all sorts of just insane ways including drowning and electrocution. I don't care if you are or arn't a big animal lover but really think about that...electrocuting a pitbull till the animal dies. That's some nasty stuff and he did it a number of times over a 5+ year span and didn't click that is not just plain sick and nasty. And not to just put pressure on Vick the NFL in general is a bit of a joke, it's by far has the lease discipline compared to the other American sports leagues but I don't want to start a whole debate on that.

Can anyone explain to me though how a 1 1/2 prison sentence is in any way a fair sentence?

ghostphantom563

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First off let me start by saying I'm not a football fan and I'm not fully against Vick, I think it's a very complex gray issue that has to unroll some more. But I'm a little shocked how many people (mainly football fans) claim that he "served his time". I don't see how someone can look at his crimes and look at his prison sentence and think they match in any way. People get 1 1/2 year sentences for minor drug charges not for massive multi-state, thousands of dollars, high stakes dog fighting operations that went on for 5+ years. It's like the difference between being caught and arrested for a small bag of weed versus growing a massive plantation of weed. It's a massive difference.

In all reality take away his name, money, fame, and any other external factors that could change the outcome of the dog fighting charages that Vick faced. To me at very least he should serve 5 or so years in prison, that's including with pleas and all that other legal stuff. Some football fans seem to feel that if he's rehabilitated and trully sorry for what he did that he should be free and it's blows me away since it's not just about remose and regret, there is a level of "debt" to soceity that is simply not met with a 1 1/2 year sentencein prison.

Dont get me wrong I think he should have a second chance but it is shocking that you can kill dogs in all sorts of just insane ways including drowning and electrocution. I don't care if you are or arn't a big animal lover but really think about that...electrocuting a pitbull till the animal dies. That's some nasty stuff and he did it a number of times over a 5+ year span and didn't click that is not just plain sick and nasty. And not to just put pressure on Vick the NFL in general is a bit of a joke, it's by far has the lease discipline compared to the other American sports leagues but I don't want to start a whole debate on that.

Can anyone explain to me though how a 1 1/2 prison sentence is in any way a fair sentence?

bisonfan2010

No, what's more confusing is that you and others keep on ignoring the facts and say that Stallworth killed someone

The man ran out in front of Stallworth's car, no matter what condition Stallworth was in that man was going to die.

Since Stallworth being under the influence was not a factor in that man's death he faced the penalty that he would have faced if he was just pulled over drunk

I do not understand why so many people ignore every single aspect of the case.

why do people give michael vick a hard time but not brett favre..vick served his time and then some just let it go

why do people give michael vick a hard time but not brett favre..vick served his time and then some just let it go

MURDA_B

Well besides being a mediocre QB Vick has....

Also given women STD's
Also tried to get drugs through an airport
Also ran a gambling ring
Also lied to the FBI
Also took money from employees savings funds to cover his bankruptcy (case still ongoing)
Also admitted he's a lazy player that took plays off, did not fully participate in practice, and did not bother to study

On the other hand Brett Favre is a Diva that cares about no one else but himself

Can you see how one side is going to be judged a bit harsher then the other?

why do people give michael vick a hard time but not brett favre..vick served his time and then some just let it go

MURDA_B

That's not a serious question, is it?

He killed dogs. He did his time. Humans get killed almost everyday, but ppl don't do crap or ppl get less time, get over it. Vick is moving on to revive his NFL career. Stop Hating.

He killed dogs. He did his time. Humans get killed almost everyday, but ppl don't do crap or ppl get less time, get over it. Vick is moving on to revive his NFL career. Stop Hating.

hotboyz81

You're aware that's not why he went to jail right?

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He killed dogs. He did his time. Humans get killed almost everyday, but ppl don't do crap or ppl get less time, get over it. Vick is moving on to revive his NFL career. Stop Hating.

Jaysonguy

You're aware that's not why he went to jail right?

of course..........i followed the dude(news)/(info) ever since he was drafted.(no homo)

So then why are you saying he served his time for killing dogs?

Also why do you ignore that he took other people's savings when he got out?

[QUOTE="ghostphantom563"]

First off let me start by saying I'm not a football fan and I'm not fully against Vick, I think it's a very complex gray issue that has to unroll some more. But I'm a little shocked how many people (mainly football fans) claim that he "served his time". I don't see how someone can look at his crimes and look at his prison sentence and think they match in any way. People get 1 1/2 year sentences for minor drug charges not for massive multi-state, thousands of dollars, high stakes dog fighting operations that went on for 5+ years. It's like the difference between being caught and arrested for a small bag of weed versus growing a massive plantation of weed. It's a massive difference.

In all reality take away his name, money, fame, and any other external factors that could change the outcome of the dog fighting charages that Vick faced. To me at very least he should serve 5 or so years in prison, that's including with pleas and all that other legal stuff. Some football fans seem to feel that if he's rehabilitated and trully sorry for what he did that he should be free and it's blows me away since it's not just about remose and regret, there is a level of "debt" to soceity that is simply not met with a 1 1/2 year sentencein prison.

Dont get me wrong I think he should have a second chance but it is shocking that you can kill dogs in all sorts of just insane ways including drowning and electrocution. I don't care if you are or arn't a big animal lover but really think about that...electrocuting a pitbull till the animal dies. That's some nasty stuff and he did it a number of times over a 5+ year span and didn't click that is not just plain sick and nasty. And not to just put pressure on Vick the NFL in general is a bit of a joke, it's by far has the lease discipline compared to the other American sports leagues but I don't want to start a whole debate on that.

Can anyone explain to me though how a 1 1/2 prison sentence is in any way a fair sentence?

bisonfan2010

Whos it to say dogs arent equal to humans? Were both animals.

Go watch the 60 minutes episode with Mike Vick and see how he feels... Your no one to judge anyone on how long they should be in prison, unless you have been there you really shouldnt talk... Biggest Salary in the NFL, Nike, all that lost.. Why does it even matter to people? its none of your business for one, if it was anyone else thats not an athlete/celeb you would give 2 **** less.

Go watch the 60 minutes episode with Mike Vick and see how he feels... Your no one to judge anyone on how long they should be in prison, unless you have been there you really shouldnt talk... Biggest Salary in the NFL, Nike, all that lost.. Why does it even matter to people? its none of your business for one, if it was anyone else thats not an athlete/celeb you would give 2 **** less.

BLBxLakers24

Ehhh

I don't buy it, you don't want to be judged publicly then don't be a public person

He knew what he was getting into when he started

If this was even an issue he should have directed his focus for bookkeeping, no one ever sees bookkeepers in the spotlight, maybe be a librarian

personally i think vick and stallworth should both be banned from football