Is Brady still going to get 50 TDs?

What he was doing was cheating. He was illegally filming. Doesn't matter if it's the same cheating. it still was illegal. Illegal filming of the field. They are the same. Doesnt matter where the camera was pointing. The rule that Bill broke was filming in an illegal spot, same as Mangini.

Just_Osmo

That's a technicality. Bellichick cheated, as in what he was doing was cheating. Mangini did something illegal, it wasn't cheating. And you know that.

And the ruling wasn't the same, if it was, the Jets would be paying out of their noses right now.

And I honestly find it sad that you'd rather have him at your helm. I'd be embarrassed to have him on my favorite team. I don't want him associated anywhere with my team. He's a cheater, whatever he's accomplished, and having him at the top of my team would give my team an image I don't want.

So let me get this correct... Bill Belechick cheated his way to three superbowl rings?antonius05

Because that's what I said right?

[QUOTE="antonius05"]So let me get this correct... Bill Belechick cheated his way to three superbowl rings?manningbowl135

Because that's what I said right?

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]

[QUOTE="antonius05"]So let me get this correct... Bill Belechick cheated his way to three superbowl rings?antonius05

Because that's what I said right?

He was caught filming the Jets signals from the sidelines. Well not him but someone working for him.

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What he was doing was cheating. He was illegally filming. Doesn't matter if it's the same cheating. it still was illegal. Illegal filming of the field. They are the same. Doesnt matter where the camera was pointing. The rule that Bill broke was filming in an illegal spot, same as Mangini.

manningbowl135

That's a technicality. Bellichick cheated, as in what he was doing was cheating. Mangini did something illegal, it wasn't cheating. And you know that.

And the ruling wasn't the same, if it was, the Jets would be paying out of their noses right now.

And I honestly find it sad that you'd rather have him at your helm. I'd be embarrassed to have him on my favorite team. I don't want him associated anywhere with my team. He's a cheater, whatever he's accomplished, and having him at the top of my team would give my team an image I don't want.

The Pats never turned in the Jets. Theyw ere just removed and had the film taken by the Pats.

Maybe they didn't turn in the Jets, but right after the Colts game (which they won), the owner immediately went to the commissioner (who was at the game) and accused the Colts of cheating (pumping sound into the RCA Dome, which it has been comfirmed that they haven not). Try to defend that. How crybabyish is that?!Whiteghost09

First off if your trying to sound smart, You failed. Get facts before you spew false information. The PRESIDENT of the Patriots contacted vice president of security Milt Ahlerich after the game because he was watching it from his house in Massachusetts on CBS who was responsiple for the sound skipping which lead him to beleive they were amplifying the crowd noise.

The Pittsburgh Steelers complained about the same thing after a loss at the dome in November 2005. So it's not like it was a new complaint.

I believe that Brady will get to 50 easilyRenegadePatriot

Won't be easy but I think he will just get 50. 51 at the most. Ofcourse I hope he gets like 10 sunday and 10 more vs the giants. But it wont happen.

I checked the facts! There was a Yahoo article a while back on it, and that's what it said!Whiteghost09

Ok, well thats what acually happened. What I stated above that is. now you know, and knowing is half of the battle!

Yo Joe!

m'kay, so the old geiser called the "vice president" after the game from his armchair. They're still crybabyish (if that's a word). Whiteghost09

It's not liek its the first time teams have accused them of the same thing. Coincidences tend to mean soemthing.

Two more touchdowns in each of his games will tie the record... thats a steal.

[QUOTE="Whiteghost09"]m'kay, so the old geiser called the "vice president" after the game from his armchair. They're still crybabyish (if that's a word). Just_Osmo

It's not liek its the first time teams have accused them of the same thing. Coincidences tend to mean soemthing.

It doesn't mean anything until it's proven and NFL does something about him. Accusations are void and meaningless unless you can prove it. So far both accusers have failed to do that, therefore it's meaningless.

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[QUOTE="Whiteghost09"]m'kay, so the old geiser called the "vice president" after the game from his armchair. They're still crybabyish (if that's a word). manningbowl135

It's not liek its the first time teams have accused them of the same thing. Coincidences tend to mean soemthing.

It doesn't mean anything until it's proven and NFL does something about him. Accusations are void and meaningless unless you can prove it. So far both accusers have failed to do that, therefore it's meaningless.

I didnn't say it was true. i was just pointing out that others had accused them so you cant blame the president of the patriots for contacting the Presitdent of Security to voice his concerns. Calling him a cry baby was just a little outragous for me.

I have nothing against you being a Pats fan, I'm just sayin that the organization is somewhat shady and, not corrupt but, well, lets just say unsportsmanlike...Whiteghost09

Robert Kraft is a great great man. Something that Bellichick did doesn't tarnish his reputation in my eyes, just Bellichicks. Kraft cant be expected to fire a coach who is winning Superbowls like its nothing. thats basically career suicide. The fans would end up turnign on the organization for turning a dynasty into a POSSIBLE losing team.

Ummm... wait Adam G. Doesn't Brady have 45? That would tie him with Peyton... Maybe he has 46 idk...Whiteghost09

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="Whiteghost09"]m'kay, so the old geiser called the "vice president" after the game from his armchair. They're still crybabyish (if that's a word). Just_Osmo

It's not liek its the first time teams have accused them of the same thing. Coincidences tend to mean soemthing.

It doesn't mean anything until it's proven and NFL does something about him. Accusations are void and meaningless unless you can prove it. So far both accusers have failed to do that, therefore it's meaningless.

I didnn't say it was true. i was just pointing out that others had accused them so you cant blame the president of the patriots for contacting the Presitdent of Security to voice his concerns. Calling him a cry baby was just a little outragous for me.

I'm just saying accusations mean absolutely nothing.

[QUOTE="Whiteghost09"]I have nothing against you being a Pats fan, I'm just sayin that the organization is somewhat shady and, not corrupt but, well, lets just say unsportsmanlike...Just_Osmo

Robert Kraft is a great great man. Something that Bellichick did doesn't tarnish his reputation in my eyes, just Bellichicks. Kraft cant be expected to fire a coach who is winning Superbowls like its nothing. thats basically career suicide. The fans would end up turnign on the organization for turning a dynasty into a POSSIBLE losing team.

Kraft is still a great man, but after it turned out he didn't even discipline Bellichick, I was a bit dissapointed. I don't expect him to fire him obviously, but he should've at least done something to show that this kind of thing is not tolerated in his organization.

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="Whiteghost09"]m'kay, so the old geiser called the "vice president" after the game from his armchair. They're still crybabyish (if that's a word). manningbowl135

It's not liek its the first time teams have accused them of the same thing. Coincidences tend to mean soemthing.

It doesn't mean anything until it's proven and NFL does something about him. Accusations are void and meaningless unless you can prove it. So far both accusers have failed to do that, therefore it's meaningless.

I didnn't say it was true. i was just pointing out that others had accused them so you cant blame the president of the patriots for contacting the Presitdent of Security to voice his concerns. Calling him a cry baby was just a little outragous for me.

I'm just saying accusations mean absolutely nothing.

[QUOTE="Whiteghost09"]I have nothing against you being a Pats fan, I'm just sayin that the organization is somewhat shady and, not corrupt but, well, lets just say unsportsmanlike...Just_Osmo

Robert Kraft is a great great man. Something that Bellichick did doesn't tarnish his reputation in my eyes, just Bellichicks. Kraft cant be expected to fire a coach who is winning Superbowls like its nothing. thats basically career suicide. The fans would end up turnign on the organization for turning a dynasty into a POSSIBLE losing team.

Kraft is still a great man, but after it turned out he didn't even discipline Bellichick, I was a bit dissapointed. I don't expect him to fire him obviously, but he should've at least done something to show that this kind of thing is not tolerated in his organization.

He was already punished by the league. Maybe he thought it was up to the commish to fork out the punishments. It's not liek when players get in trouble witht he league and get suspended/fined the owners of their team then punish them also.Correct em if I'm wrong but i'ev never heard of a owner/coach giving a player more games off when they get suspended lol.

Yes he will, Patriot's playing the dolphins in the last week. The DOLPHINS!!! think about it not very hard to see what is going to happen.-AK47-

huh? Patriots arent playing the dolphins the last week. They are playing the Giants in the last week. Theres 2 games left you know, Dolphins this week and Giants next.

[QUOTE="-AK47-"]Yes he will, Patriot's playing the dolphins in the last week. The DOLPHINS!!! think about it not very hard to see what is going to happen.Just_Osmo

huh? Patriots arent playing the dolphins the last week. They are playing the Giants in the last week. Theres 2 games left you know, Dolphins this week and Giants next.

I think if he plays the whole game, he will get more TDs against the Giants than the Dolphins. Not only are the Giants pass D horrible, it just looks dysfunctional against good quarterbacks, like they have no clue who's supposed to do what. The pass rush is amazing and that's been keeping this team alive.

About the other thing, yea I guess that makes sense. I don't really have anything against Kraft. He's the only guy I felt bad about the whole spygate thing. The Patriots franchise is his pride and joy. He even shows off the ring to foreign ambassadors. When Bellichick does something like this that makes his favorite paper, NY Times (I know that from an interview) question the Pats accomplishments, that must've felt bad. He didn't deserve that from his coach. Yet another reason for me to hate Bellichick.

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[QUOTE="-AK47-"]Yes he will, Patriot's playing the dolphins in the last week. The DOLPHINS!!! think about it not very hard to see what is going to happen.manningbowl135

huh? Patriots arent playing the dolphins the last week. They are playing the Giants in the last week. Theres 2 games left you know, Dolphins this week and Giants next.

I think if he plays the whole game, he will get more TDs against the Giants than the Dolphins. Not only are the Giants pass D horrible, it just looks dysfunctional against good quarterbacks, like they have no clue who's supposed to do what. The pass rush is amazing and that's been keeping this team alive.

About the other thing, yea I guess that makes sense. I don't really have anything against Kraft. He's the only guy I felt bad about the whole spygate thing. The Patriots franchise is his pride and joy. He even shows off the ring to foreign ambassadors. When Bellichick does something like this that makes his favorite paper, NY Times (I know that from an interview) question the Pats accomplishments, that must've felt bad. He didn't deserve that from his coach. Yet another reason for me to hate Bellichick.

Well said.

2 meaningless interceptions by Brady. He's trying too hard to get the records out of the way today. His season is extremely similar to Manning's right now. Since Manning only played 15 games, let's compare them:

Brady: 4423 Yards, 48 Touchdowns, 8 interceptions, 118.6 qb rating, 69%

Manning: 4500 yards, 49 Touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 121 qb rating, 67%.

Weather doent bother the pats. they are a whole new machine in the playoffs. Brady will always come through in the clutch. it may not be pretty like last year in SD but it will happen. Brady will get his TDs. Bill belichick will assure itpatsfan83428

You do know in the last game the Patriots game was bothered by the weather. 0 TD passes. How can you say they don't get effected. They are a throwing team. bad weather nullifies that game.

So maybe an impromptu poll is in order here: which records go down next week? Pats goin 16-0? Brady TD's in a season? Moss TD's in a season? Should be interesting...ScoopyMcScoop

All 3

Pffff... It wasn't THAT bad of weather. KYLE ORTON threw a touchdown in 85 mph wind gusts.

[QUOTE="ScoopyMcScoop"]So maybe an impromptu poll is in order here: which records go down next week? Pats goin 16-0? Brady TD's in a season? Moss TD's in a season? Should be interesting...Just_Osmo

All 3

I agree here, a historic game.

I don't really understand this because PM sat out the last 1 or 2 gms of his 49Td year while Brady is going to pass him with all of the gms.jujutheking

He sat out the Majority of the last game because he had broken the record the week before. If he had not broken it during that game he would definatly have played the game. Brady will be taken out as soon as the records are broken. The original record of 48 was obtained in the last game with 4 tds in that game. If your trying to say the record shouldnt be Bradys because he's playing the last game to get it then you need to rethink your opinions.

Leave it to the Giants to let Moss run free down the sidelines...

Gratz Moss and Brady.

(I would have preferred to see Vrabel catch that one pass he dropped, but oh well)