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This is a terrible review. This year's madden in THE BEST next-gen madden out. I normally criticize madden. 09 was awful. The running game was broken, and it STILL scores higher than 10.
Gamespot can't review games, I'm sorry.
Well I remember people jumped all over AT for giving last year's a good score despite the actual review not being all that good. Perhaps it's just a way of maintaining credibility. It sounds to me like he's just making up for all the thing previous reviewers never said, it still looks like a better game than 09.
You can't say that because he gave it a 7.5 that it means it's worse than Madden 09. It's clearly not, but with the quantum leaps all other sports games are making now, Madden is still light years behind. There is nothing in Madden 10 that is revolutionary that hasn't already been done in past maddens and other football games in the past. In fact, it has less. How can you expect the reviewers to praise it to no end with that in mind? The review isn't to say the game sucks, it's to point out the shortcomings so that the dev team knows what they need to do to get it over the edge. I think the game is really good, and am excited for it, but it's not much better than 7.5. I thought the review was really good. Nearly everything he said was right, especially the problems with the AI. The new presentation additions, online franchise, and the improved gameplay are great things to have, but still not up to par with what is out there today in terms of sports games. Play MLB the show or NHL 09 or NBA 2k. Those franchises are light years ahead. It's fair to hold EA to a higher standard, it can only help the situation not hurt it. Everyone **** about the exclusive deal and then the ridiculous overblown reviews of Madden in the past on Next Gen. Now the reviewers are actually holding EA to the proper standard, and everyone complains? They practically ARE the NFL. The game should be better than it is. We've already been down the road as to why. Let's just say this. This game is a building block for turning around a nearly dead game.tazdevil20
That was a good review. I liked it a lot. He was pretty straightforward with his points.
And by looking at the game, it still has that sluggish feeling that these new next gen maddens have that I hate. Not to mention the crappy commentary is still irritating.
Oh well, it's been three years since I've bought a madden. I guess one of these years they'll make a good madden..
For the people saying "wow they are saying 09 was better", this guy made a really good point on the OperationSports forum. [quote="tazdevil20"]You can't say that because he gave it a 7.5 that it means it's worse than Madden 09. It's clearly not, but with the quantum leaps all other sports games are making now, Madden is still light years behind. There is nothing in Madden 10 that is revolutionary that hasn't already been done in past maddens and other football games in the past. In fact, it has less. How can you expect the reviewers to praise it to no end with that in mind? The review isn't to say the game sucks, it's to point out the shortcomings so that the dev team knows what they need to do to get it over the edge. I think the game is really good, and am excited for it, but it's not much better than 7.5. I thought the review was really good. Nearly everything he said was right, especially the problems with the AI. The new presentation additions, online franchise, and the improved gameplay are great things to have, but still not up to par with what is out there today in terms of sports games. Play MLB the show or NHL 09 or NBA 2k. Those franchises are light years ahead. It's fair to hold EA to a higher standard, it can only help the situation not hurt it. Everyone **** about the exclusive deal and then the ridiculous overblown reviews of Madden in the past on Next Gen. Now the reviewers are actually holding EA to the proper standard, and everyone complains? They practically ARE the NFL. The game should be better than it is. We've already been down the road as to why. Let's just say this. This game is a building block for turning around a nearly dead game.II-FBIsniper-II
Wow, that guy was right on the money. Madden shouldnt just get high scores because it's 'madden'. I also agree with him on the other sports games. If you have played Sony's MLB series or atleast the 2K basketball series, you can tell how much better sports games they are than madden. Those games are absolutely amazing and very polished. Not only that, but they get beter year after year.
Gamespot finally does something right :lol:
This is a terrible review. This year's madden in THE BEST next-gen madden out. I normally criticize madden. 09 was awful. The running game was broken, and it STILL scores higher than 10.
Gamespot can't review games, I'm sorry.
hockeyruler12
naw the running game is still broken
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Me
LMFAO i cant believe im still buying this piece of effing ish game just cuz i need to play a football gameNetYankEagle
Seriously? Even after Gamespot's "credible" review Madden 10 has an average score of 87.34% out of 100% and that's after 16 reviews. This years Madden is obviously a solid game but yet again, Gamespot shows their inability to review games.
the review is self-contradicting. it seems like he wants to review the meat and potatoes of the game first and foremost (i.e. gameplay improvements), but criticizes the game for screwing up alot of cosmetic aspects (i.e. poor commentary) and modes (i.e. online franchise). plus, alot of the gameplay criticisms can be fixed by sliders.
gamespot lost credibility by giving pieces of trash madden 08 a 8.5 and madden 09 a 8.0. how madden 10 could score lower than both of those games is ridiculous, especially when ea has made significant gameplay improvements and has fixed offline franchise (something not even mentioned).
lol gamespot lost it's credibility a while back tbh. I guess you could say it had to do with a former employee of theres... Anyway yeah I played the extended demo and I have a hard time believing it deserves below an 8.0 especially with online franchise.the review is self-contradicting. it seems like he wants to review the meat and potatoes of the game first and foremost (i.e. gameplay improvements), but criticizes the game for screwing up alot of cosmetic aspects (i.e. poor commentary) and modes (i.e. online franchise). plus, alot of the gameplay criticisms can be fixed by sliders.
gamespot lost credibility by giving pieces of trash madden 08 a 8.5 and madden 09 a 8.0. how madden 10 could score lower than both of those games is ridiculous, especially when ea has made significant gameplay improvements and has fixed offline franchise (something not even mentioned).
WindedSailor
the review is self-contradicting. it seems like he wants to review the meat and potatoes of the game first and foremost (i.e. gameplay improvements), but criticizes the game for screwing up alot of cosmetic aspects (i.e. poor commentary) and modes (i.e. online franchise). plus, alot of the gameplay criticisms can be fixed by sliders.
gamespot lost credibility by giving pieces of trash madden 08 a 8.5 and madden 09 a 8.0. how madden 10 could score lower than both of those games is ridiculous, especially when ea has made significant gameplay improvements and has fixed offline franchise (something not even mentioned).
WindedSailor
I agree 100%! This is how Gamespot reviews always go! They dwell WAY too much on the negative (which most of the time is nit picky at best) and never give props to the big changes that are really worth noting. I mean, the review says that Pro-Tak works about as well as you would want it to... ooooooookay... so what does that mean? That it's okay and it does a good job or what? I mean, every other site raved about Pro-Tak and how awesome it is and yet Gamespot just says something vague about it and doesn't give credit where credit is due. Everyone I know that has played the demo has though Pro-Tak was AMAZING! And I totally agree! And yeah, how Gamespot gives 10 (which just by the demo and other reviews shows that it's a much improved game) a lower score than 08 and 09 just shows how horrible they are at reviewing games.
[QUOTE="WindedSailor"]
the review is self-contradicting. it seems like he wants to review the meat and potatoes of the game first and foremost (i.e. gameplay improvements), but criticizes the game for screwing up alot of cosmetic aspects (i.e. poor commentary) and modes (i.e. online franchise). plus, alot of the gameplay criticisms can be fixed by sliders.
gamespot lost credibility by giving pieces of trash madden 08 a 8.5 and madden 09 a 8.0. how madden 10 could score lower than both of those games is ridiculous, especially when ea has made significant gameplay improvements and has fixed offline franchise (something not even mentioned).
nickdastick
I agree 100%! This is how Gamespot reviews always go! They dwell WAY too much on the negative (which most of the time is nit picky at best) and never give props to the big changes that are really worth noting. I mean, the review says that Pro-Tak works about as well as you would want it to... ooooooookay... so what does that mean? That it's okay and it does a good job or what? I mean, every other site raved about Pro-Tak and how awesome it is and yet Gamespot just says something vague about it and doesn't give credit where credit is due. Everyone I know that has played the demo has though Pro-Tak was AMAZING! And I totally agree! And yeah, how Gamespot gives 10 (which just by the demo and other reviews shows that it's a much improved game) a lower score than 08 and 09 just shows how horrible they are at reviewing games.
on operation sports, which in my opinion is the only real site out there with any real expertise in reviewing sport sims, they gave the game a 9.0, and they're usually pretty harsh with madden. on the operation sports forums, everyone agrees that madden 10 is a big step in the right direction, minor faults notwithstanding.
i hate reviews like this because there is just no logic to the way gamespot reviews sports games. they are totally unreliable. if you go back to their nfl 2k5 review, still the best football game ever made, you'll see the same kind of nitpicking.
naw the running game is still broken
andyboiii
If you seriously believe that, you are clueless. This year you can see the holes develop and you can hit them hard or bounce it outside and gain some solid yards. My brother, who HATES to run on Madden, played the Super Bowl demo a few times and LOVES how well the running game works in Madden now. You need to take off your NFL 2K5 blinders man...
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[QUOTE="WindedSailor"]
the review is self-contradicting. it seems like he wants to review the meat and potatoes of the game first and foremost (i.e. gameplay improvements), but criticizes the game for screwing up alot of cosmetic aspects (i.e. poor commentary) and modes (i.e. online franchise). plus, alot of the gameplay criticisms can be fixed by sliders.
gamespot lost credibility by giving pieces of trash madden 08 a 8.5 and madden 09 a 8.0. how madden 10 could score lower than both of those games is ridiculous, especially when ea has made significant gameplay improvements and has fixed offline franchise (something not even mentioned).
WindedSailor
I agree 100%! This is how Gamespot reviews always go! They dwell WAY too much on the negative (which most of the time is nit picky at best) and never give props to the big changes that are really worth noting. I mean, the review says that Pro-Tak works about as well as you would want it to... ooooooookay... so what does that mean? That it's okay and it does a good job or what? I mean, every other site raved about Pro-Tak and how awesome it is and yet Gamespot just says something vague about it and doesn't give credit where credit is due. Everyone I know that has played the demo has though Pro-Tak was AMAZING! And I totally agree! And yeah, how Gamespot gives 10 (which just by the demo and other reviews shows that it's a much improved game) a lower score than 08 and 09 just shows how horrible they are at reviewing games.
on operation sports, which in my opinion is the only real site out there with any real expertise in reviewing sport sims, they gave the game a 9.0, and they're usually pretty harsh with madden. on the operation sports forums, everyone agrees that madden 10 is a big step in the right direction, minor faults notwithstanding.
i hate reviews like this because there is just no logic to the way gamespot reviews sports games. they are totally unreliable. if you go back to their nfl 2k5 review, still the best football game ever made, you'll see the same kind of nitpicking.
Yeah I played the extended demo a few times, and the short demo plenty to know the game play is far better. I certainly noticed deep bombs are knocked down, or intercepted a helluva lot more than they used to be (and they we're easy in previous games), dragging a tackler before a few more guys jump on you, fighting for the fumble (not perfect but it's alot better than having a random player come up with the ball), and the presention is far improved from other games. Obviously I didn't see the new additions to the game modes but i've read there certainly better than last years.[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"]LMFAO i cant believe im still buying this piece of effing ish game just cuz i need to play a football gamenickdastick
Seriously? Even after Gamespot's "credible" review Madden 10 has an average score of 87.34% out of 100% and that's after 16 reviews. This years Madden is obviously a solid game but yet again, Gamespot shows their inability to review games.
iv seen enough proof(videos) that this game is still a crappy glitchfest[QUOTE="andyboiii"]
naw the running game is still broken
nickdastick
If you seriously believe that, you are clueless. This year you can see the holes develop and you can hit them hard or bounce it outside and gain some solid yards. My brother, who HATES to run on Madden, played the Super Bowl demo a few times and LOVES how well the running game works in Madden now. You need to take off your NFL 2K5 blinders man...
lol you need to take off those EA homer glasses.Iv seen enough apex videos to know that the running and offensive line is still trashIts kind of funny, EA has set the bar low with football games, and then when they do a few good things the fanboys start calling it the greatest football game of all time. NCAA football and Madden have both been average football games for a long time now.
At least games like NHL and MLB the show have really stepped up their product this gen.
Madden 10 is way better. Being a Nintendo fan, I have completely stopped caring about these ****** scores on everything that isn't exclusive to XBOX 360.
[QUOTE="nickdastick"][QUOTE="andyboiii"]
naw the running game is still broken
NetYankEagle
If you seriously believe that, you are clueless. This year you can see the holes develop and you can hit them hard or bounce it outside and gain some solid yards. My brother, who HATES to run on Madden, played the Super Bowl demo a few times and LOVES how well the running game works in Madden now. You need to take off your NFL 2K5 blinders man...
lol you need to take off those EA homer glasses.Iv seen enough apex videos to know that the running and offensive line is still trash Yet you're still giving them your money. As will I tonight when Amazon ships my copy.I agree that's why I don't go by game reviews.This is a terrible review. This year's madden in THE BEST next-gen madden out. I normally criticize madden. 09 was awful. The running game was broken, and it STILL scores higher than 10.
Gamespot can't review games, I'm sorry.
hockeyruler12
the review is self-contradicting. it seems like he wants to review the meat and potatoes of the game first and foremost (i.e. gameplay improvements), but criticizes the game for screwing up alot of cosmetic aspects (i.e. poor commentary) and modes (i.e. online franchise). plus, alot of the gameplay criticisms can be fixed by sliders.
gamespot lost credibility by giving pieces of trash madden 08 a 8.5 and madden 09 a 8.0. how madden 10 could score lower than both of those games is ridiculous, especially when ea has made significant gameplay improvements and has fixed offline franchise (something not even mentioned).
it's not about how good it is when placed next to a predecessor, if that happened 90% of sequels would have to get a higher score, it would be hard for a series like madden to get worse, of course the games aren't getting worse, but the progress they make is extremely slow, when compared to other games. So if Madden 10 is only slightly better than 09, it's easy to give it a lower score. by your logic let's say 06 - 7.5 07 - 8 08 - 8.5 09 - 9.0 10 - 9.5 when in fact that is no way realistic of how they should score it, you can give it a better score when it's only slightly better, it's like comparing gears of war to gears of war 2. Geow2 was probably better, but there was so little improvement from year to year that you can't give it as good of a score.Yet you're still giving them your money. As will I tonight when Amazon ships my copy. DoomtimeI don't blame people. They need their NFL fix before the season starts and there's only one game with the license so they have to settle with a game that has no competition from anyone
The review seems fine. Only thing I don't like is that he complains about interceptions, and then it shows him (in the video review) throwing the ball RIGHT to a defender. I don't think that's the games fault :P
so basically their saying that the game is WORSE than last year's??starwarsjunky
No
If you read the review it's better then last year
They more have a problem with how the new features are done rather then them being included. If the new features were introduced as they wanted then it would be one of the best football games ever
That in itself makes me scratch my head because it takes on personal preference rather then a strict list of guidelines
But we'll see, I get my copy tomorrow from Amazon
[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]so basically their saying that the game is WORSE than last year's??Jaysonguy
No
If you read the review it's better then last year
They more have a problem with how the new features are done rather then them being included. If the new features were introduced as they wanted then it would be one of the best football games ever
That in itself makes me scratch my head because it takes on personal preference rather then a strict list of guidelines
But we'll see, I get my copy tomorrow from Amazon
well if its better, shouldnt it logically have a higher score? lol[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]so basically their saying that the game is WORSE than last year's??starwarsjunky
No
If you read the review it's better then last year
They more have a problem with how the new features are done rather then them being included. If the new features were introduced as they wanted then it would be one of the best football games ever
That in itself makes me scratch my head because it takes on personal preference rather then a strict list of guidelines
But we'll see, I get my copy tomorrow from Amazon
well if its better, shouldnt it logically have a higher score? lol Why don't you read the review and find out? It's not all about the stupid number.so basically their saying that the game is WORSE than last year's??starwarsjunkyNo. Madden 99' got a 8.5, but it doesn't mean it's better that 09' it just means standards change over time. The 7.5 is still BS imo though
[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]well if its better, shouldnt it logically have a higher score? lol Why don't you read the review and find out? It's not all about the stupid number. why would i read it? that would possibly prove my point invalid.No
If you read the review it's better then last year
They more have a problem with how the new features are done rather then them being included. If the new features were introduced as they wanted then it would be one of the best football games ever
That in itself makes me scratch my head because it takes on personal preference rather then a strict list of guidelines
But we'll see, I get my copy tomorrow from Amazon
Doomtime
The review seems fine. Only thing I don't like is that he complains about interceptions, and then it shows him (in the video review) throwing the ball RIGHT to a defender. I don't think that's the games fault :P
limpbizkit818
No joke! I only throw picks when I miss a defender or when I choose to throw into double or triple coverage.
No. Madden 99' got a 8.5, but it doesn't mean it's better that 09' it just means standards change over time. The 7.5 is still BS imo though[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]so basically their saying that the game is WORSE than last year's??Boston_Boyy
Totally agree. Standards change over time, but what floors me is how the gameplay is WAY better than last years game (which I still thought was a good game) but the score is lower... For me, it's about gameplay more than anything. If the gameplay is better, I really don't see anyway it could get a lower score than the previous game... But again, this is Gamespot we are talking about.
This is a terrible review. This year's madden in THE BEST next-gen madden out. I normally criticize madden. 09 was awful. The running game was broken, and it STILL scores higher than 10.
Gamespot can't review games, I'm sorry.
Don't say that, you'll get modded. I got modded for telling you guys about IGN's review. Apparently that's advertising. And you're right, 7.5 is bull.So after playing it I don't agree with the GS review, its way too high for thisterrible game. This is the LAST Madden game I will ever buy forever and day until they fix it. The franchise alone is a poorly designed bloody mess and the running game is still broken, not to mention the players run so slow you can barely outrun a DT as an RB. I could go on for days but I am too angry over wasting 60 bucks on the worst Madden to date. Almost like as slim Madden, take out all the features why don't you. Jeez. If you haven't got it yet, save your money don't bother.
LMFAO i cant believe im still buying this piece of effing ish game just cuz i need to play a football gameNetYankEagleSave your money, don't.
So after playing it I don't agree with the GS review, its way too high for thisterrible game. This is the LAST Madden game I will ever buy forever and day until they fix it. The franchise alone is a poorly designed bloody mess and the running game is still broken, not to mention the players run so slow you can barely outrun a DT as an RB. I could go on for days but I am too angry over wasting 60 bucks on the worst Madden to date. Almost like as slim Madden, take out all the features why don't you. Jeez. If you haven't got it yet, save your money don't bother.
MoonMarvel
You understand that in the NFL most DT's can catch RB's before they're out in the open right?
I'm sure I'll have more to discuss later
[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]
So after playing it I don't agree with the GS review, its way too high for thisterrible game. This is the LAST Madden game I will ever buy forever and day until they fix it. The franchise alone is a poorly designed bloody mess and the running game is still broken, not to mention the players run so slow you can barely outrun a DT as an RB. I could go on for days but I am too angry over wasting 60 bucks on the worst Madden to date. Almost like as slim Madden, take out all the features why don't you. Jeez. If you haven't got it yet, save your money don't bother.
Jaysonguy
You understand that in the NFL most DT's can catch RB's before they're out in the open right?
I'm sure I'll have more to discuss later
So you think its fine that a 300 pound DT with the speed rating of 50 can catch a 200 pound RB with the speed of 94? I don't think so.[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]
So after playing it I don't agree with the GS review, its way too high for thisterrible game. This is the LAST Madden game I will ever buy forever and day until they fix it. The franchise alone is a poorly designed bloody mess and the running game is still broken, not to mention the players run so slow you can barely outrun a DT as an RB. I could go on for days but I am too angry over wasting 60 bucks on the worst Madden to date. Almost like as slim Madden, take out all the features why don't you. Jeez. If you haven't got it yet, save your money don't bother.
MoonMarvel
You understand that in the NFL most DT's can catch RB's before they're out in the open right?
I'm sure I'll have more to discuss later
So you think its fine that a 300 pound DT with the speed rating of 50 can catch a 200 pound RB with the speed of 94? I don't think so. I don't think you understand how fast all NFL players are especially defenders. just because their ratings are off by this much doesnt mean he's 2x as fast Let's say AP runs a 4.3 - 40, idk but its close. a starting DT isn't going to run a 8.6 or even over a 7.0, it's gonna be 5-6 second range, they can move.Please Log In to post.
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