Madden 13 Demo - Thoughts/Impressions?

So over the last few days my cousins and I have played a good amount of the Madden 13 demo and so far, we are very impressed. The new Infinity Engine works very well and really adds a lot to the game. What do you guys think about the demo and the Infinity Engine so far?

Please don't get into that 2k thing again. There are numerous threads about that already. And yes I did prefer 2k games over Madden but WHATEVER.

Anywho. I think the demo was hit and miss. The tackling and presentation is great. But the new engine had me laughing at some weird somersaults and weird motions. One time, a player did a front flip while picking up a fumble and immediately running for the defensive touchdown, all in one swift motion, but he was ruled down by contact. Just little things here and there.

I need to get used to running up the middle, because all the time I ran into or tripped over one of my linemen and was immediated dropped.

But it does feel good when the animations are going right.

Please don't get into that 2k thing again. There are numerous threads about that already. And yes I did prefer 2k games over Madden but WHATEVER.

Anywho. I think the demo was hit and miss. The tackling and presentation is great. But the new engine had me laughing at some weird somersaults and weird motions. One time, a player did a front flip while picking up a fumble and immediately running for the defensive touchdown, all in one swift motion, but he was ruled down by contact. Just little things here and there.

I need to get used to running up the middle, because all the time I ran into or tripped over one of my linemen and was immediated dropped.

But it does feel good when the animations are going right.

Major_Snake

I agree with you on all fronts (especially the one in bold, c'mon guys, it's getting old, we know, we know, 2k5 FTW, but right now, nothing doing with that so please try to stick to the topic at hand or just don't comment). I have also seen some interesting things happen, but for the most part, it's few and far between in comparison. If you remember, FIFA 12 had a new collision engine and it did well, but also had some VERY funny things happen. It still made the game much better overall though and FIFA 13 is already fixing most (if not all) of the issues it was having due to that. So hopefully the mess ups are minimal and then next year they can be ironed out even more if not completely.

[QUOTE="Major_Snake"]

Please don't get into that 2k thing again. There are numerous threads about that already. And yes I did prefer 2k games over Madden but WHATEVER.

Anywho. I think the demo was hit and miss. The tackling and presentation is great. But the new engine had me laughing at some weird somersaults and weird motions. One time, a player did a front flip while picking up a fumble and immediately running for the defensive touchdown, all in one swift motion, but he was ruled down by contact. Just little things here and there.

I need to get used to running up the middle, because all the time I ran into or tripped over one of my linemen and was immediated dropped.

But it does feel good when the animations are going right.

nickdastick

I agree with you on all fronts (especially the one in bold, c'mon guys, it's getting old, we know, we know, 2k5 FTW, but right now, nothing doing with that so please try to stick to the topic at hand or just don't comment). I have also seen some interesting things happen, but for the most part, it's few and far between in comparison. If you remember, FIFA 12 had a new collision engine and it did well, but also had some VERY funny things happen. It still made the game much better overall though and FIFA 13 is already fixing most (if not all) of the issues it was having due to that. So hopefully the mess ups are minimal and then next year they can be ironed out even more if not completely.

I wish instant replay were in the demo, I can't go back and see if the same problems are still there. Still, seems like a vast improvement so far.monkeytoes61

Yeah, I don't know why they couldn't squeeze replay into that huge of a demo. I want it simply so I can look at the way the players collide and such. Especially since the instant replays they show are at the very very end of the play so you normally don't get to see anything worthwhile.

The running and passing is solid... but the games biggest flaw is the physics and tackling. 90% of the tackles in Madden look nothing like an actual football tackle. Guys just get hit and explode like a grenade went off or a small defender stops a bruising heavier RB in his tracks and knocks him backwards. UNrealisitc. You never see a defender's arms involved in making a tackle. How about if a Linebacker reaches out with his ARMS and grabs some jersey.... or wraps up the ball carrier at the waste and legs and takes them down like most tackles in an NFL game? Then there's players falling down and flopping around like rag dolls after plays. It just seems unpolished and unfinished to me. I know it's a broken record by now... but EA needs to scrap this engine and go with a physics engine like Euphoria in the Backbreaker game. And I don't even like BB.... but there's just no comparison between the tackling and physics engine in BB to Madden. It blows Madden away.

It's why I still play Backbreaker. The game lacks any interesting features. Every player looks exactly the same, barren franchise mode. But, at least there aren't any suction cup blocks and tackles, no magically teleporting WRs/DBs making ridiculous interceptions, no LBs jumping ten feet in the air to pick off passes. Backbreaker is an unfinished product, but the groundwork was there for an amazing football game (Natural Motion has made it clear that they are unlikely to ever make Backbreaker 2).monkeytoes61

I'm still amazed that nobody has bought the rights to the Euphoria engine for a football game. It would have been smart for EA to do since it was already built and they could have just tweaked it to fit what they wanted. And that sucks to hear Backbreaker 2 will most likely never be created.

[QUOTE="Major_Snake"]

Please don't get into that 2k thing again. There are numerous threads about that already. And yes I did prefer 2k games over Madden but WHATEVER.

Anywho. I think the demo was hit and miss. The tackling and presentation is great. But the new engine had me laughing at some weird somersaults and weird motions. One time, a player did a front flip while picking up a fumble and immediately running for the defensive touchdown, all in one swift motion, but he was ruled down by contact. Just little things here and there.

I need to get used to running up the middle, because all the time I ran into or tripped over one of my linemen and was immediated dropped.

But it does feel good when the animations are going right.

nickdastick

I agree with you on all fronts (especially the one in bold, c'mon guys, it's getting old, we know, we know, 2k5 FTW, but right now, nothing doing with that so please try to stick to the topic at hand or just don't comment). I have also seen some interesting things happen, but for the most part, it's few and far between in comparison. If you remember, FIFA 12 had a new collision engine and it did well, but also had some VERY funny things happen. It still made the game much better overall though and FIFA 13 is already fixing most (if not all) of the issues it was having due to that. So hopefully the mess ups are minimal and then next year they can be ironed out even more if not completely.

The running and passing is solid... but the games biggest flaw is the physics and tackling. 90% of the tackles in Madden look nothing like an actual football tackle. Guys just get hit and explode like a grenade went off or a small defender stops a bruising heavier RB in his tracks and knocks him backwards. UNrealisitc. You never see a defender's arms involved in making a tackle. How about if a Linebacker reaches out with his ARMS and grabs some jersey.... or wraps up the ball carrier at the waste and legs and takes them down like most tackles in an NFL game? Then there's players falling down and flopping around like rag dolls after plays. It just seems unpolished and unfinished to me. I know it's a broken record by now... but EA needs to scrap this engine and go with a physics engine like Euphoria in the Backbreaker game. And I don't even like BB.... but there's just no comparison between the tackling and physics engine in BB to Madden. It blows Madden away.

ohjtbehaaave

I haven't played any Madden's in about 4 year. The game was fun, but I probably wouldn't buy it.

I couldn't really tell if they fixed my biggest gripe at Madden 12, and that is defensive backs with their backs turned to the quarter back would turn and run towards the ball without ever being indicated to the pass being thrown on All-Madden. On All-Madden, I would throw tons of interceptions when throwing to the open receiver because of this. I probably won't buy this year, maybe next year.Nozizaki

I can honestly say I haven't had this happen to me once in all the games I've played on the demo on All-Pro (which is what I play it on). That is one thing they made sure to work on especially since they changed it to where the receivers have to be looking to catch the ball as well.