Most overrated player in the NBA?

Dirk and Melo

Dirk and Melo

dbz987

i think dirk is a top five player in the nba right now, but after the finals people are saying he is the best player in the nba right now. They also claim that dirk is better all time player than Kevin Garnett because he couldnt win a title in Minnesota.

i think dirk is a top five player in the nba right now, but after the finals people are saying he is the best player in the nba right now. They also claim that dirk is better all time player than Kevin Garnett because he couldnt win a title in Minnesota.

dbz987

Yeah, with either KG or Dirk you'd have a great player, but I'd have to go with K.G's all-round game over Dirk.

Yeah, with either KG or Dirk you'd have a great player, but I'd have to go with K.G's all-round game over Dirk.

mont13

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[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"] He is the youngest MVP of the league, is he not?GodofBigMacs

lebron-greatest ever? no rings :P

munchlax99

would you rather have malone or duncan? stockton or isaiah?mems_1224

i think dirk is a top five player in the nba right now, but after the finals people are saying he is the best player in the nba right now. They also claim that dirk is better all time player than Kevin Garnett because he couldnt win a title in Minnesota.

dbz987

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]would you rather have malone or duncan? stockton or isaiah?No_Hablo_Ingles

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]would you rather have malone or duncan? stockton or isaiah?mems_1224

People use the ring argument when everything else is against them, and is only used when it agrees with their preexisting ideas. Karl Malone is worst then Tim Duncan because he has less rings, but Robert Horry isn't better for the same reason?

Malone > Duncan (debatable but I choose Malone)

Stockton > Isiah (again debatable, but I'll take Stockton over Isiah 10/10)

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]Malone and StocktonNo_Hablo_Ingles

People use the ring argument when everything else is against them, and is only used when it agrees with their preexisting ideas. Karl Malone is worst then Tim Duncan because he has less rings, but Robert Horry isn't better for the same reason?

Malone > Duncan (debatable but I choose Malone)

Stockton > Isiah (again debatable, but I'll take Stockton over Isiah 10/10)

Melo is one the best at rebounding among SFs. Melo is the best offensive rebounding SF in the entire NBA. Melo is the "best" (meaning having a wider arrangement of moves) scorer in the NBA. Melo also has a low basketball IQ and isn't really a leader.No_Hablo_Ingles

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]Melo is one the best at rebounding among SFs. Melo is the best offensive rebounding SF in the entire NBA. Melo is the "best" (meaning having a wider arrangement of moves) scorer in the NBA. Melo also has a low basketball IQ and isn't really a leader.BaraChat

yea its a team sport but did the bulls win a ring without jordan? mems_1224

bill russell played in a time where the league wasn't very competative. you gotta look at everything. you cant just look at stats or rings or time period. mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea its a team sport but did the bulls win a ring without jordan? No_Hablo_Ingles

bill russell played in a time where the league wasn't very competative. you gotta look at everything. you cant just look at stats or rings or time period. mems_1224

Not true. When you can clearly see that a player is the driving force behind a team, when you can see that without that player, the team would be mediocre (Indianapolis Colts anyone?), rings totally factor in. Nobody can tell me that Dan Marino wouldn't be higher on their top ten lists if he had at least won ONE Super Bowl. And likewise, Tom Brady likely doesn't crack a top ten list if he only wins one, or never wins any. monkeytoes61

Dan Marino would be higher in a lot of people's list, but not higher in mine. People care too much about rings, and if I hear one more person saying Big Ben is a better QB then marino I'm going to flip.

tim duncan, although not so much anymore cuz hes old and doneTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

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Duncan's name being mentioned at all... blows my mind.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]i always thought you have to have both stats and rings. horry has all the rings but everyone knows he's never been more than a role player. malone was also notorious for choking in the playoffs, i would never claim hes better than someone like duncan who's been clutch in big moments i mean when comparing great players i think rings should weigh more than when comparing barkley to adam morrisonNo_Hablo_Ingles

I'm so glad someone else thinks this way! Rings are not the most important thing and i also would take Stockton and Malone over Duncan and Isaiah.

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Not true. When you can clearly see that a player is the driving force behind a team, when you can see that without that player, the team would be mediocre (Indianapolis Colts anyone?), rings totally factor in. Nobody can tell me that Dan Marino wouldn't be higher on their top ten lists if he had at least won ONE Super Bowl. And likewise, Tom Brady likely doesn't crack a top ten list if he only wins one, or never wins any. No_Hablo_Ingles

Dan Marino would be higher in a lot of people's list, but not higher in mine. People care too much about rings, and if I hear one more person saying Big Ben is a better QB then marino I'm going to flip.

and the whole point of playing sports is to win. you dont think stockton, malone or barkley would trade all those stats away for a ring?mems_1224

Let me put it this way. I will take other things into account before championships when I rank players all time. But, to completely discount rings is pretty stupid, especially if the player was the driving force behind it.monkeytoes61

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]tim duncan, although not so much anymore cuz hes old and done-Halftime-

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]tim duncan, although not so much anymore cuz hes old and doneMajor_Snake

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Duncan's name being mentioned at all... blows my mind.

[QUOTE="BaraChat"][QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]Melo is one the best at rebounding among SFs. Melo is the best offensive rebounding SF in the entire NBA. Melo is the "best" (meaning having a wider arrangement of moves) scorer in the NBA. Melo also has a low basketball IQ and isn't really a leader.M_1_A_M_I

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Derrick Rose

bobcheeseball

I think derrick rose is overrated but i dont think he is the most imo.

LeBron - Always fails in the clutch / biggest games

Kobe- Still a top 10 player, but he's fading. (Still one of the top 10 all time players)

'Mello - Great scorer, not great at anything else

As far as championships in the NBA go its because their is only 5 players on the court at one time. If you compair one great of all time with another, and they have similar stats, the one with more rings wins. It's the same with QB's in the NFL. Fair or not in a team sport, chips matter. In the NBA more then any other sport. Isiah > Stockton. Duncon > Malone.

As far as championships in the NBA go its because their is only 5 players on the court at one time. If you compair one great of all time with another, and they have similar stats, the one with more rings wins. It's the same with QB's in the NFL. Fair or not in a team sport, chips matter. In the NBA more then any other sport. Isiah > Stockton. Duncon > Malone.

SpideR_CentS

Malone has nearly twice as many points as Duncan)No_Hablo_Ingles

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]Malone has nearly twice as many points as Duncan)andyboiii

amare stoudamire
vince carter
jason kidd
darron williams

the reason you say melo is because he had a horrible season this year...he was spectaculat in 2009-2010

KBFloYd

Most Ignorant Comment On This Post. How are those 4 over rated? Kidd is an instant hall of famer, Amare had NY coming back until that ridiculously stupid trade to get melo, Deron is great, and im a cp3 fan . He is definitely a top 5 pg. And Carter doesnt get that much hype.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Dwight Howard. He's big and he can dunk, but other than that and rebounds he can't really do anything except be athletic. He's like a faster, but crappier KG.shakmaster13

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the best what in the nba? no, I can't give it to someone who's in his prime and can't finish games. there's a picture I posted up of Lebron that read "If basketball was 3 quarters, I'd be the best player in the nba"GodofBigMacs

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Who is the best player in the NBA then?

Personally, I think if it's not Lebron, it is between Rose and Durant. Kobe is out of his prime, unless he proves us wrong next season.Honestly, though, in terms of all around efficiency and ability, it's Lebron. But right now, nobody in the NBA has the killer instinct, spirit, nor drive to win games that come even close to what MJ and Kobe had in their respective careers.

Chris Paul. He showed in the playoffs against the Lakers he can still take over games offensively against top teams. He once again put up 10 APG, he's the leader of the best clutch shooting team in the NBA (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/24200/the-truth-about-kobe-bryant-in-crunch-time) and he knows his ability. In addition, hes never really had a super supporting cast AND he has made it to the Western Conference Finals.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Dwight Howard. He's big and he can dunk, but other than that and rebounds he can't really do anything except be athletic. He's like a faster, but crappier KG.Yanks2740

[QUOTE="Yanks2740"][QUOTE="shakmaster13"]I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Dwight Howard. He's big and he can dunk, but other than that and rebounds he can't really do anything except be athletic. He's like a faster, but crappier KG.M_1_A_M_I

[QUOTE="M_1_A_M_I"][QUOTE="Yanks2740"] wrong. Magic go 3-79 without howardYanks2740

[QUOTE="Yanks2740"][QUOTE="M_1_A_M_I"] naa they're like a twenty five win team because they have a few nice perimiter shooters (Hedo, J-rich, Jameer, Anderson).M_1_A_M_I