NCAAB is 100x better than NBA

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#1 marchmadness1012
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Players actually playing for something.
More come from behind wins.
More upsets.
Significantly better playoffs.
Better crowds.

I can't see how anyone likes the NBA better, most games aren't close, and the players just don't have the same intensity.

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IMO I dont like watching amatuers play, and a lot of the games are low scoring, thats why I prefer the NBA.
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IMO I dont like watching amatuers play, and a lot of the games are low scoring, thats why I prefer the NBA. KoFoNiO

they play for 8 less minutes.

realistically, they're not amateurs, it's where all the NBA players come from.

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#4 The_Zoid
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I agree with that. I think watching the NBA gets stale after a while. NCAAB is much more exciting.
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Completely agree. I haven't watched/followed the NBA since I was 10. I follow, watch, and attend college hoops games as if my life depended on it.

NBA players are playing for contracts and shoe endorsements.

College players play with their heart for school spirit and a genuine love for the game. The rivalry matchups are unparalleled as well.
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#6 nygiants1080
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I also think that NCAAB is better than the NBA.
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agreed.. NBA basketball these days is no where near as fun to watch then collage basketball
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[QUOTE="KoFoNiO"]IMO I dont like watching amatuers play, and a lot of the games are low scoring, thats why I prefer the NBA. marchmadness1012

realistically, they're not amateurs, it's where all the NBA players come from.

Even though that's true, most of those players become more developed in the NBA. The only player who probably had a better NCAA career than an NBA career was Christian Lattener. I'll probably appreciate NCAAB when I go to college or something.
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Not to mention there is less "gang-member attitude." College coaches don't put up with that crap, so it doesn't happen as much in the NCAA. But I agree, NCAAB is far superior to the NBA. The NBA is just an individual game nowadays. It's not very fun to watch.
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[QUOTE="KoFoNiO"]IMO I dont like watching amatuers play, and a lot of the games are low scoring, thats why I prefer the NBA. marchmadness1012

they play for 8 less minutes.

realistically, they're not amateurs, it's where all the NBA players come from.

They are amatuers by definition. If you get paid to do something, you are a professional. If you don't get paid, you're an amatuer.
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i havent been folloeing bball much as of latly but watching the ncaa tourny has gotten me back into like I use to love the sport.  Ohio st Xavier games was one of the best games I have ever seen, the nba can't match something liek that
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college teams actually play defense, unlike most nba teams. and they can actually play a true zone, which is fundamental basketball. in the nba, they have the defensive 3 second rule.
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i havent been folloeing bball much as of latly but watching the ncaa tourny has gotten me back into like I use to love the sport.  Ohio st Xavier games was one of the best games I have ever seen, the nba can't match something liek thatstephenbpronovo
Did you watch Phoenix and Dallas the other night? I don't really like the NBA, but that game was pretty good. Portland/LA from last night where Kobe scored 65 was also amazing.
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I'll just reiterate my thoughts on NCAA ball from a previous thread to make my argument. Just because there is parity doesn't mean college ball is superior to the pros. Very few college players have a well developed post/inside game, no one can figure out how to beat a zone, there's way too much hanging around the perimeter hoisting up 3's, and even if the style of play is well structured the overall Basketball IQ on the court is never very high.

It's always about the coaches and their systems, and the coaches are so revered their ego won't let them adapt established systems to the unique players that come in because they are dispensable. You rarely see beauty or creativity on the court because the players just aren't talented enough to perform at an extremely high level. Not to mention the good players are prone to selfish play, they know they're auditioning for NBA this time of year. Ohio State's guards vs. Xavier is a prime example of that. I enjoy watching college ball, especially the tournament. The crowds, last minute plays, office pools and dramatic storylines makes for good entertainment. But give me NBA basketball any day of the week over these amateurs, regular season or playoffs. Not even close for my tastes.
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[QUOTE="viberooni"]I'll just reiterate my thoughts on NCAA ball from a previous thread to make my argument. Just because there is parity doesn't mean college ball is superior to the pros. Very few college players have a well developed post/inside game, no one can figure out how to beat a zone, there's way too much hanging around the perimeter hoisting up 3's, and even if the style of play is well structured the overall Basketball IQ on the court is never very high.

It's always about the coaches and their systems, and the coaches are so revered their ego won't let them adapt established systems to the unique players that come in because they are dispensable. You rarely see beauty or creativity on the court because the players just aren't talented enough to perform at an extremely high level. Not to mention the good players are prone to selfish play, they know they're auditioning for NBA this time of year. Ohio State's guards vs. Xavier is a prime example of that. I enjoy watching college ball, especially the tournament. The crowds, last minute plays, office pools and dramatic storylines makes for good entertainment. But give me NBA basketball any day of the week over these amateurs, regular season or playoffs. Not even close for my tastes.

Watching superior talent is always fun, but much more predictable IMO. Also, one game eliminations and the "every game counts" mentality in the NCAA make for more clutch moments and bigger upsets. The NBA allows off-nights, but in college you might as well have blown your chances out the window. That is all my personal take though.
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I agree college basketball is more entertaining and watchable than pro basketball. The NCAA tournament is also a better sporting even than the NBA playoffs (imo).
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I agree college basketball is more entertaining and watchable than pro basketball. The NCAA tournament is also a better sporting even than the NBA playoffs (imo).Ngamer05
I don't think the NBA is really even entertaining until the playoffs, even then it's nothing to march madness.
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[QUOTE="Ngamer05"]I agree college basketball is more entertaining and watchable than pro basketball. The NCAA tournament is also a better sporting even than the NBA playoffs (imo).The_Zoid
I don't think the NBA is really even entertaining until the playoffs, even then it's nothing to march madness.


Only a few NBA team can keep my attention for a long time-span
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I disagree.....its 200x better.
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[QUOTE="viberooni"]I'll just reiterate my thoughts on NCAA ball from a previous thread to make my argument. Just because there is parity doesn't mean college ball is superior to the pros. Very few college players have a well developed post/inside game, no one can figure out how to beat a zone, there's way too much hanging around the perimeter hoisting up 3's, and even if the style of play is well structured the overall Basketball IQ on the court is never very high.

It's always about the coaches and their systems, and the coaches are so revered their ego won't let them adapt established systems to the unique players that come in because they are dispensable. You rarely see beauty or creativity on the court because the players just aren't talented enough to perform at an extremely high level. Not to mention the good players are prone to selfish play, they know they're auditioning for NBA this time of year. Ohio State's guards vs. Xavier is a prime example of that. I enjoy watching college ball, especially the tournament. The crowds, last minute plays, office pools and dramatic storylines makes for good entertainment. But give me NBA basketball any day of the week over these amateurs, regular season or playoffs. Not even close for my tastes.

I'd rather watch the "inferior" team play over the one-man show that is the NBA any day. Ally-oops were old 5 years ago.
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I'd rather watch the "inferior" team play over the one-man show that is the NBA any day. Ally-oops were old 5 years ago.murlow12
One-man show and alley-oops? In the all-star game sure, but c'mon you sound like a hater who never watches NBA ball saying stuff like that.

Playcalling and offensive/defensive schemes get more interesting in the pros because of the greater overall talent. Some teams play defense better than others, but players are much harder to guard at that level as well. And for every Kobe Bryant or LeBron James in the league there's a Shane Battier or Tayshaun Prince. The talent pool in the NBA is deeper and more diverse than college, and just because David Stern markets a league of superstars (thanks to Jordan) doesn't mean there's nothing else the NBA can offer for fans of the game.

In the end it's all basketball (my favorite sport), and I do understand why some folks prefer the NCAA. Just wanted to throw out some counterpoint for discussion.
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I think college is better in the NBA for two reasons.
1. The players are less selfish.
2.The atmosphere of a college hoops game is way better.
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1. Rowdy student sections
2. Real rivalry games
3. Defense
4. Better playoff system
5. Shoe endorsements not allowed
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Funny my friend and I were talking about this the other night because we were discussing how much of a beast Psycho T is, and how hard he works. NBA players dont care and some dont even play whole heartedly, they just play for the $. The atmosphere in college is 500 times better than the NBA. I've gone to about 10 college games and about 5 NBA games. In the NBA, all the crowd does is clap after a big dunk or if the game is really close then they'll get into it. In college, the  crowd is ALWAYS into the game with the band, student sections, everything.
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NCAAB is how the game of basketball was meant to be played.....as a TEAM.In the NBA teams don't give any effort on the defensive end, and all I see the whole game is isolation plays for the star players.....it gets BORING.When you compare atmosphere of course college is gonna have the best atmosphere, but I would atleast expect NBA fans to make some sorta noise but all they do is stay silent pretty much the entire game.And alot of people say NBA really picks up during the playoffs but I disagree, noone wants to watch a first round series that last 7 games between 2 teams with no shot for the NBA Championship, the playoffs are way too long and don't get intresting until the Conference Finals.
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[QUOTE="KoFoNiO"]IMO I dont like watching amatuers play, and a lot of the games are low scoring, thats why I prefer the NBA. marchmadness1012

they play for 8 less minutes.

realistically, they're not amateurs, it's where all the NBA players come from.



No, you fail. Not every player comes out of college and plays like Shaq or Duncan. They need 3-5 years of development. Also, 99 percent of the NCAA players won't even make NBA and when you watch a NBA and a college game, the size and atheleticism difference is huge. And even less will have a decent NBA career. Most of them leave the league after 4 or 5 seasons. In other words, they are amatuers. I don't know what you been watching but it's pretty clear that NBA games are more higher paced and complex. NBA has the best of the best, but NCAA has some elite players with mediocore players. With that said, I liked the intensity and fan excitment of NCAA better than NBA. Both have their advantages and disadvtanges. But saying NCAA is 100 times better is unrealistic and biased.
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[QUOTE="murlow12"]I'd rather watch the "inferior" team play over the one-man show that is the NBA any day. Ally-oops were old 5 years ago.viberooni
One-man show and alley-oops? In the all-star game sure, but c'mon you sound like a hater who never watches NBA ball saying stuff like that.

Playcalling and offensive/defensive schemes get more interesting in the pros because of the greater overall talent. Some teams play defense better than others, but players are much harder to guard at that level as well. And for every Kobe Bryant or LeBron James in the league there's a Shane Battier or Tayshaun Prince. The talent pool in the NBA is deeper and more diverse than college, and just because David Stern markets a league of superstars (thanks to Jordan) doesn't mean there's nothing else the NBA can offer for fans of the game.

In the end it's all basketball (my favorite sport), and I do understand why some folks prefer the NCAA. Just wanted to throw out some counterpoint for discussion.

I'm not a hater and I do watch the NBA, but only my hometown Lakers. I'm so sick of the 1 on 1 game that I can't stand to watch any other games. Obviously I was overexaggerating in my last post. But the point still stands that the NBA is an individual-oriented game, which is why it isn't fun to watch.
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[QUOTE="viberooni"][QUOTE="murlow12"]I'd rather watch the "inferior" team play over the one-man show that is the NBA any day. Ally-oops were old 5 years ago.murlow12
One-man show and alley-oops? In the all-star game sure, but c'mon you sound like a hater who never watches NBA ball saying stuff like that.

Playcalling and offensive/defensive schemes get more interesting in the pros because of the greater overall talent. Some teams play defense better than others, but players are much harder to guard at that level as well. And for every Kobe Bryant or LeBron James in the league there's a Shane Battier or Tayshaun Prince. The talent pool in the NBA is deeper and more diverse than college, and just because David Stern markets a league of superstars (thanks to Jordan) doesn't mean there's nothing else the NBA can offer for fans of the game.

In the end it's all basketball (my favorite sport), and I do understand why some folks prefer the NCAA. Just wanted to throw out some counterpoint for discussion.

I'm not a hater and I do watch the NBA, but only my hometown Lakers. I'm so sick of the 1 on 1 game that I can't stand to watch any other games. Obviously I was overexaggerating in my last post. But the point still stands that the NBA is an individual-oriented game, which is why it isn't fun to watch.



I agree with you to a certain extent, but the individual aspect of the game can be exhilarating to watch, but it's not like NCAA doesn't have an individual aspect to its game. Texas, for example, expect Durant to be an one-man show. Also, it maybe that you watch the Lakers but when you watch spurs, mavs, or detroit, their game is very team-oriented except for when they need their main-guys to take over certain games.
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NBA is better because the players are more exciting and more talented. The players do have reasons to play for and that is $$$$ money. There is intensity in the NBA especially when it's between rival teams. Just watch any Mavs vs. Suns games from the past 2 years or Mavs vs. Spurs.

 

The only time I like watching NCAA is when a local team is doing well. Go Bruins! 

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[QUOTE="viberooni"][QUOTE="murlow12"]I'd rather watch the "inferior" team play over the one-man show that is the NBA any day. Ally-oops were old 5 years ago.murlow12
One-man show and alley-oops? In the all-star game sure, but c'mon you sound like a hater who never watches NBA ball saying stuff like that.

Playcalling and offensive/defensive schemes get more interesting in the pros because of the greater overall talent. Some teams play defense better than others, but players are much harder to guard at that level as well. And for every Kobe Bryant or LeBron James in the league there's a Shane Battier or Tayshaun Prince. The talent pool in the NBA is deeper and more diverse than college, and just because David Stern markets a league of superstars (thanks to Jordan) doesn't mean there's nothing else the NBA can offer for fans of the game.

In the end it's all basketball (my favorite sport), and I do understand why some folks prefer the NCAA. Just wanted to throw out some counterpoint for discussion.

I'm not a hater and I do watch the NBA, but only my hometown Lakers. I'm so sick of the 1 on 1 game that I can't stand to watch any other games. Obviously I was overexaggerating in my last post. But the point still stands that the NBA is an individual-oriented game, which is why it isn't fun to watch.

That's because you're in LA and you're stuck watching Kobe. The most selfish player in the NBA. Watch the Suns, that's how true team basketball is played. Nash with his passing skills allow his teamates to develop and grow. You'll see offensive excution at it's most perfection, way more exciting and funner to watch than NCAA. I too, was once a a Laker fan, during the glorious days of Magic Johnson and the Showtime Lakers, than tragedy struck Magic got AIDS and the NBA beame the Michael Jordan league. I hate Michael Jordan and how he changed the NBA into a one-man gameshow. Kobe Bryant is what happens when it's all about the individual, greatest talent in the NBA but gets too emo and wrecks his team. If you were old enough to watch Magic, you're happy for how the Suns are playing and hope that more future NBA stars see Nash's two MVPs and try to be like Nash, not Mike.