Stallworth's suspension

I didnt see anything on this yet so i'll go ahead and ask it. What do you think about Goodell suspending Stallworth for the entire season? too much? too little?

i feel that it is probably right. he drove while drunk and killed someone as a result of it. it deserved at least this.

It's hard to justify it if you compare it to anyone else's penalty, in that way he's getting SCREWED

Taken on it's own merits it's fair, if you never know of any other transgression in the NFL and the punishment for it then yeah, completely fair

Frankly I think Goodell's just pandering to all the fans who got their panties in a bunch saying Stallworth's sentence was too short. Like Jay said, comparatively this is a pretty strong suspension. It's not like I have a ton of remorse for the guy, I just think the sentence is designed more to appease public anger than it is to set precedent or actually punish.

well he's showing everyone that misconduct will not be tolerated. it wouldnt be right for him not to be suspended at all, as if it never happenedstarwarsjunky

I agree but let's compare it with our other favorite felon in Vick

Vick became a household name for feeding dogs to other dogs
No one really knows who Stallworth is even today.

So which one was the larger black eye to the NFL?

Vick lied to the Commish and caused the NFL to become even more damaged
Stallworth called the police himself and complied fully with the NFL from the moment it happened

So who was more trouble for the league?

Vick spent 2 years in jail
Stallworth spent under a month

In both of their cases it was said that jailtime was not a factor

The Commish is certainly trying to please the court of public opinion but at the same time it's impossible to read how he's going to come down on anyone

well vick was out of the league 2 years + 6 games...starwarsjunky

Very true but in each case it was said their "away time" was not a factor in their punishment

Also Vick is allowed to work for a team right away. He can sign for a team and practice and play in the preseason games

On the other hand Stallworth is barred from all team activities until after the Superbowl

I don't disagree with his ruling, I just think that he's all over the place when it comes to laying down the law

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]well vick was out of the league 2 years + 6 games...Jaysonguy

Very true but in each case it was said their "away time" was not a factor in their punishment

Also Vick is allowed to work for a team right away. He can sign for a team and practice and play in the preseason games

On the other hand Stallworth is barred from all team activities until after the Superbowl

I don't disagree with his ruling, I just think that he's all over the place when it comes to laying down the law

I'm not sure if I have all the facts straight, but didn't he end someones life while driving drunk? And he gets 30 days in jail? thats fair?Shatin

I'm not going to worry about it. Dude killed someone intentionally or not that is bad stuff. It is intresting to see the arguments shift back and forth with Vick "oh yeah well Stallworth killed someone" and now "oh yeah well Vick...".

I'm not going to worry about it. Dude killed someone intentionally or not that is bad stuff. It is intresting to see the arguments shift back and forth with Vick "oh yeah well Stallworth killed someone" and now "oh yeah well Vick...".

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I'm not going to worry about it. Dude killed someone intentionally or not that is bad stuff. It is intresting to see the arguments shift back and forth with Vick "oh yeah well Stallworth killed someone" and now "oh yeah well Vick...".

starwarsjunky

Seems fair to me.

ive read that the guy he killed just ran in front of his car and it was pretty much his own fault he got hit. if thats what really happened i think stallworth should just get the normal punishment for driving under the influencespliffstar12

[QUOTE="spliffstar12"]ive read that the guy he killed just ran in front of his car and it was pretty much his own fault he got hit. if thats what really happened i think stallworth should just get the normal punishment for driving under the influenceMoonMarvel

That's what happened, the guy was running to catch a bus and he ran out in the middleof the street, didn't even use a crosswalk. Although Stallworth was drunk, he wasn't driving in a reckless manner and was only going about 10 over the speed limit, faily standard speed for many. He wasn't completely wasted, as someone said, he had been drinking the night before and thought incorrectly that it had passed out of his system. I'm not saying that makes it any better of an idea, but it's not like he got trashed at a bar and decided to driver home even though he couldn't walk straight. The only thing his drunkeness might have had a factor on was reaction time. Maybe he could have stopped in time if he was sober, maybe he couldn't have. His drunkeness, though, was not the only thing that factored into the accident and that factors into the verdict.Overall, the sentence was perfectly withint the legal allotment, the conditions of the accident figured into it not JUST the fact that he failed a breathalizer, as did the testimony in his favor of the man's family. In addition to his jail time he received community service and had his driver's license revoked for life. It's a perfectly fair sentence and has ample precedent to support it.

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="spliffstar12"]ive read that the guy he killed just ran in front of his car and it was pretty much his own fault he got hit. if thats what really happened i think stallworth should just get the normal punishment for driving under the influencetheone86

That's what happened, the guy was running to catch a bus and he ran out in the middleof the street, didn't even use a crosswalk. Although Stallworth was drunk, he wasn't driving in a reckless manner and was only going about 10 over the speed limit, faily standard speed for many. He wasn't completely wasted, as someone said, he had been drinking the night before and thought incorrectly that it had passed out of his system. I'm not saying that makes it any better of an idea, but it's not like he got trashed at a bar and decided to driver home even though he couldn't walk straight. The only thing his drunkeness might have had a factor on was reaction time. Maybe he could have stopped in time if he was sober, maybe he couldn't have. His drunkeness, though, was not the only thing that factored into the accident and that factors into the verdict.Overall, the sentence was perfectly withint the legal allotment, the conditions of the accident figured into it not JUST the fact that he failed a breathalizer, as did the testimony in his favor of the man's family. In addition to his jail time he received community service and had his driver's license revoked for life. It's a perfectly fair sentence and has ample precedent to support it.

The only thing his drunkeness might have had a factor on was reaction time. theone86

So how is it that he was able to flash his lights in an attempt to warn Reyes? Hitting your brakes is faster and easier, the guy didn't care if he hit somebody.

It says right in the 11th paragraph that he flashed his lights to warn Reyes. I just don't get why you wouldn't hit the brakes.

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That's what happened, the guy was running to catch a bus and he ran out in the middleof the street, didn't even use a crosswalk. Although Stallworth was drunk, he wasn't driving in a reckless manner and was only going about 10 over the speed limit, faily standard speed for many. He wasn't completely wasted, as someone said, he had been drinking the night before and thought incorrectly that it had passed out of his system. I'm not saying that makes it any better of an idea, but it's not like he got trashed at a bar and decided to driver home even though he couldn't walk straight. The only thing his drunkeness might have had a factor on was reaction time. Maybe he could have stopped in time if he was sober, maybe he couldn't have. His drunkeness, though, was not the only thing that factored into the accident and that factors into the verdict.Overall, the sentence was perfectly withint the legal allotment, the conditions of the accident figured into it not JUST the fact that he failed a breathalizer, as did the testimony in his favor of the man's family. In addition to his jail time he received community service and had his driver's license revoked for life. It's a perfectly fair sentence and has ample precedent to support it.

starwarsjunky

I agree with most of that except the last statement. Everyone's acting like he's getting special treatment and he's not. Like I said, the judge was well within both the legal limitations and legal precedent when he handed out that sentence. It wasn't longer because the man ran out into the street, because Stallworth was not driving erratically before the accident, and because the family requested a short trial and did not want the DA to prosecute to the full extent of the law. There's simply no evidence that the judge or the jury were starstruck, and if they was there would be an investigation into the matter. That isn't the case, though, as lawyers, judges, and just about everyone within the legal community agree that he's not getting special treatment because he's a star.

So how is it that he was able to flash his lights in an attempt to warn Reyes? Hitting your brakes is faster and easier, the guy didn't care if he hit somebody.

It says right in the 11th paragraph that he flashed his lights to warn Reyes. I just don't get why you wouldn't hit the brakes.Second_Rook

Right, and the fact that he didn't brake probably had something to do with his alcohol level, which is why he got 30 days in jail and his license revoked for life. However, to say he didn't care is a bit of a stretch. Nothing in his behavior ever indicated malicious intent, simply negligence in getting behind the wheel in the first place. I'm not trying to argue that Stallworth was completely in the right, he shouldn't have been driving, I never said otherwise. However to say he didn't care about hitting people is a stretch and, frankly, unfounded. He wasn't in the right frame of mind to be driving, period.

Thedude killed a person. That seems more then fair id argue its not harsh enough, but ill call it even since GODell has punished enough people.