The Patriots and Tom Brady still have it...Deal with it!

Usually I love it when teams go for it on fourth down. Seriously, if coaches want to "play the percentages" they would go for it on fourth and one/fourth and inches, where teams succeed more than 3 out of four times.

But that deep in your own territory is a bit dicey.

Haha amazing game, thanks Pats for giving Miami a chance;)

Where's TC? :Prockguy92

Must be mad lol. I know I would be after a loss like that.

[QUOTE="rockguy92"]Where's TC? :PSeabas989

Must be mad lol. I know I would be after a loss like that.

this thread is hilarious:lol:NetYankEagle

Where's TC? :Prockguy92

[QUOTE="rockguy92"]Where's TC? :PBobbles

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="rockguy92"]Where's TC? :PMoonMarvel

Must be mad lol. I know I would be after a loss like that.

Oh my bad.

Anyway, that isn't to say your wrong since the loss should be blamed on Belichick.

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Seabas989"]

Must be mad lol. I know I would be after a loss like that.

Oh my bad.

Anyway, that isn't to say your wrong since the loss should be blamed on Belichick.

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] Mad about what? Read the OP dude, I clearly said I didn't like the Patriots. Jeez. :roll: MoonMarvel

Oh my bad.

Anyway, that isn't to say your wrong since the loss should be blamed on Belichick.

Well I don't think most of the guys on here are ragging on the Pats or saying they are bad. They were just wondering why you hadn't said anything. The Pats are a solid team and will be for some time. That game was crazy and could have easily gone the other way. It will be cool to see them play each other again in the playoffs.

I a huge Colts fan and I love the way the game played out. Comeback by Peyton and Belichick looking like Belichoke. Awesome. Bring on the rematch in the playoffs can't wait!

Well, between missing the playoffs last season and losing close games this season I will say that the Pats have lost a step or two. That still makes them an awesome season seeing as how they were coming down from five straight playoff appearances, three Superbowl apperances, two Superbowl wins, and the two longest regular-season winning streaks in NFL history. Still, teams change over time, they're not the same team that they were a few years ago.

I lol'd at the wikipedia article for the Pats by the way. I won't post the link because it might be fixed by the time it's viewed, but here's an excerpt:

"The Patriots, however, were defeated by the New York Giants in Super Bowl XLII, after winning the first 18 games of their 2007 season. Under quarterback Tom Brady and moderately stupid head coach Bill Belichick,"

Hooray for Wiki-vandalism!

Pardon? The only reason they missed the playoffs last year was because Brady got hurt. He plays they win their division, something they almost did without him.MoonMarvel

They've lost three games this season and all of them the result of them getting passed on. Their defense simply isn't the same caliber as it was before a lot of their stars started retiring. I'm not saying that makes them bad, I'm just saying they're not the same team that won 21 straight, that team would have been able to win all three of those games. And Cassel played well enough to get them into the playoffs, they didn't get in as a team. If you're only successful (relatively in this case) when a certain player is on the field that says more about your team than it does about that one player. If you're saying Patriots are an average to slightly above average team without Brady but a Superbowl contender with him that just proves my point, the team that won 21 stragith could have won a Superbowl with Matt Cassel under center, their defense and running game dominated that year as well.

I hate the Pats as much as anybody but they dominated that game (for 57 minutes) and proved they are the better team in my eyes. And if Faulk didn't bobble the catch on 4th down we would be hearing what a genius Bill is and that more teams should go for it on 4th down. Y2Jfan23

More teams should go for it on fourth down. Punting is overrated.

And if the Pats were the better team, they would have won the game. You can't disregard the final score.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="rockguy92"]Where's TC? :PMoonMarvel

Nah, just a call that didn't work out for good ol' Belicheat:D

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Bobbles"] As if this changes the fact that the Patriots are still a top team in the league. Chutebox

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] Honestly, 1 loss and people cheer its over. I seriously believe people are that desperate to hate on them. MoonMarvel

Im ready for the jets to upset the pats:)

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] I seriously don't think anyone here thinks Patriots are done.Chutebox

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/maddennfl10/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-52210929&pid=958702&page=0

This proves how many blind Brady haters there are here. Just read the thread.

Im ready for the jets to upset the pats:)

epic_pets

Yeah, hopefully Edwards can hang on to the danged ball.

For the last time the patriots are overrated and will not be in the superbowl...steelers are underrated watch out for them

For the last time the patriots are overrated and will not be in the superbowl...steelers are underrated watch out for them

MURDA_B

For the last time the patriots are overrated and will not be in the superbowl...steelers are underrated watch out for them

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="MURDA_B"]

For the last time the patriots are overrated and will not be in the superbowl...steelers are underrated watch out for them

rockguy92

[QUOTE="rockguy92"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] So underrated they lost to the Bengals twice. Good this is the last time you will say this because its still wrong. Care to explain your reasons?MoonMarvel

For the last time the patriots are overrated and will not be in the superbowl...steelers are underrated watch out for them

MURDA_B

I think you got confused... the steelers aren't even close to being underrated. In fact, they are way overrated.

For the last time the patriots are overrated and will not be in the superbowl...steelers are underrated watch out for them

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]Pardon? The only reason they missed the playoffs last year was because Brady got hurt. He plays they win their division, something they almost did without him.theone86

They've lost three games this season and all of them the result of them getting passed on. Their defense simply isn't the same caliber as it was before a lot of their stars started retiring. I'm not saying that makes them bad, I'm just saying they're not the same team that won 21 straight, that team would have been able to win all three of those games. And Cassel played well enough to get them into the playoffs, they didn't get in as a team. If you're only successful (relatively in this case) when a certain player is on the field that says more about your team than it does about that one player. If you're saying Patriots are an average to slightly above average team without Brady but a Superbowl contender with him that just proves my point, the team that won 21 stragith could have won a Superbowl with Matt Cassel under center, their defense and running game dominated that year as well.