The REAL Super Bowl -- New England at Indianapolis (POLL)

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#101 PatsFanVince
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Wrong... the better team did win. The Patriots weren't even playing there best football and despite some of those B.S. calls we still won the game.

And to Miami fans... enjoy your number one pick maybe you can get another kick returner!

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#102 Miami84Chambers
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Wrong... the better team did win. The Patriots weren't even playing there best football and despite some of those B.S. calls we still won the game.

And to Miami fans... enjoy your number one pick maybe you can get another kick returner!

PatsFanVince

Ted Ginn is going to become a great WR and I believe we have our QB with John Beck and Ronnie Brown is one of the, if not best all around RB in the NFL, but of course we lost him to an ACL tear.

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#103 Dutch_Mix
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I have no respect at all for the Patriots organization. They may be the best team in the NFL, buy they're also the most hated. They have no class or character.
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#104 Cube_of_MooN
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Anyone talking about Brady silently adding on another three TD passes to his total?
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#105 Cube_of_MooN
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I have no respect at all for the Patriots organization. They may be the best team in the NFL, buy they're also the most hated. They have no class or character. Dutch_Mix

The best team is usually the most hated... Its more difficult for me to see that "hate" here in New England, where its love, love, love about the Pats day in and day out.

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#106 midnite_toker22
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great game

too bad my colts lost

no denying the pats greatness

hopefully we get to play them again in the playoffs

and have harrison and ugoh healthy

not making excuses for this game the better team won

20-10 with 9min to gowas a great comeback

so no excuses, but i think we can beat them

i dont think anyone else can tho

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#107 Dutch_Mix
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[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]I have no respect at all for the Patriots organization. They may be the best team in the NFL, buy they're also the most hated. They have no class or character. Cube_of_MooN

The best team is usually the most hated... Its more difficult for me to see that "hate" here in New England, where its love, love, love about the Pats day in and day out.

Not necessarily.

This is about class. Plain and simple. The Patriots have none and that's why everyone is against them. No one likes to see the score ran up, and no one likes to see a team cheating.

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#108 Cube_of_MooN
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great game

too bad my colts lost

no denying the pats greatness

hopefully we get to play them again in the playoffs

and have harrison and ugoh healthy

not making excuses for this game the better team won

20-10 with 9min to gowas a great comeback

so no excuses, but i think we can beat them

i dont think anyone else can tho

midnite_toker22

The problem that the Colts will face is that the Playoff game would likely be in New England.

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#109 Cube_of_MooN
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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"]

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]I have no respect at all for the Patriots organization. They may be the best team in the NFL, buy they're also the most hated. They have no class or character. Dutch_Mix

The best team is usually the most hated... Its more difficult for me to see that "hate" here in New England, where its love, love, love about the Pats day in and day out.

Not necessarily.

This is about class. Plain and simple. The Patriots have none and that's why everyone is against them. No one likes to see the score ran up, and no one likes to see a team cheating.

*sigh* will people ever stop with the cheating thing? Every team bends the rules in some way or another. The Pats just got caught.

The running up the score is a more legitimate argument. I understand why that could cause dissent among the NFL, but it could be a strategy. And besides, Belicheck doesn't care about popular opinion. I just hope it doesn't come back to bite the Patriots this year or later down the road.

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#110 midnite_toker22
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[QUOTE="midnite_toker22"]

great game

too bad my colts lost

no denying the pats greatness

hopefully we get to play them again in the playoffs

and have harrison and ugoh healthy

not making excuses for this game the better team won

20-10 with 9min to gowas a great comeback

so no excuses, but i think we can beat them

i dont think anyone else can tho

Cube_of_MooN

The problem that the Colts will face is that the Playoff game would likely be in New England.

yea thats true

i still think we can do it, especially after seeing how close we came tonight

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#111 Dutch_Mix
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[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"]

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]I have no respect at all for the Patriots organization. They may be the best team in the NFL, buy they're also the most hated. They have no class or character. Cube_of_MooN

The best team is usually the most hated... Its more difficult for me to see that "hate" here in New England, where its love, love, love about the Pats day in and day out.

Not necessarily.

This is about class. Plain and simple. The Patriots have none and that's why everyone is against them. No one likes to see the score ran up, and no one likes to see a team cheating.

*sigh* will people ever stop with the cheating thing? Every team bends the rules in some way or another. The Pats just got caught.

The running up the score is a more legitimate argument. I understand why that could cause dissent among the NFL, but it could be a strategy. And besides, Belicheck doesn't care about popular opinion. I just hope it doesn't come back to bite the Patriots this year or later down the road.

No, not every team bends the rules. Don't make accusations you can't back up.

A strategy? Please explain how kicking a team while they're down is a strategy.

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#112 Cube_of_MooN
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No, not every team bends the rules. Don't make accusations you can't back up.

A strategy? Please explain how kicking a team while they're down is a strategy.

Dutch_Mix

The Colts have never bent the rules before? C'mon now.

And on the strategy, this is what I have heard, not that I necesarrily believe it. Its really a mental thing. If New Englan appears to be this unstoppable monster week in and week out, hw is a team like the Dolphins supposed to feel entering that game? They will go in sag "Yeah, let's upset them at home...." but deep down, the players know they don't stand a chance. That slight tinge of doubt may give the Pats that extra advantage, that IMO they have proven they don't need.

In a way, this "stategy" was cemented tonight, going into the home field of the undefeated, defending Super Bowl Champs and winning. How is a tam supposed to feel going into a game against this team?

Well that's what I've heard, but really, I think its more that Belicheck is one pissed off man. One very pissed off man. Blowing off Dungy was a bad decision on his part tonight.

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#113 AHUGECAT
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Uh people - running up the score is required by NFL rules.

And why did no one complain about the Lions running up the score on Denver? Oh wait I forgot after the Lions were up 30-0 they should have kneeled EVERY possession to let Denver back into the game... :roll: The Lions are totally classless.

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#114 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"]

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]I have no respect at all for the Patriots organization. They may be the best team in the NFL, buy they're also the most hated. They have no class or character. Dutch_Mix

The best team is usually the most hated... Its more difficult for me to see that "hate" here in New England, where its love, love, love about the Pats day in and day out.

Not necessarily.

This is about class. Plain and simple. The Patriots have none and that's why everyone is against them. No one likes to see the score ran up, and no one likes to see a team cheating.

*sigh* will people ever stop with the cheating thing? Every team bends the rules in some way or another. The Pats just got caught.

The running up the score is a more legitimate argument. I understand why that could cause dissent among the NFL, but it could be a strategy. And besides, Belicheck doesn't care about popular opinion. I just hope it doesn't come back to bite the Patriots this year or later down the road.

No, not every team bends the rules. Don't make accusations you can't back up.

A strategy? Please explain how kicking a team while they're down is a strategy.

Colts did today - crowd noise CD anyone?

And running up the score is required for TIE BREAKERS...

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#115 murlow12
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I'm sticking this. Why am I sticking this? Because I don't want ten thousand threads about this whenever the Hell it is.

Now behave yourselves or I'll do mod stuff to you.

Robbie_IV

My first sticky. How special am I? :oops:

Anyway, good game, but I'm disappointed Indy gave it away after dominating for 3.5 quarters. Can't wait to see these teams again in the AFC Championship.

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#116 -Halftime-
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Indy had it, but those two long throws to Moss & Stallworth really gave some momentum to the Pats that they desperately needed.

Gotta give it to the Pats, on the road, tons of penalties, turnovers, & they STILL win.

Great game, can't wait to see the (Likely) playoff rematch.

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#117 dkhw
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LOL, look what happens when NE is actually playing against a good D... THEY GET OWNED. Addai is making their D look like a bunch of scrubs, and Brady is out there crying about the calls. Guess he's not used to getting a fair game.zarfbloot

Seriously, can you not just show one side of the issue? Pats were playing away at one hostile stadium, two turnovers, over 140 yards of penalty, and the refs against them, and Colts leading three quaters and STILL won. That's not good enough for you?

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#118 dkhw
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[QUOTE="Miami84Chambers"]Well the better team lost.Ngamer05

Agreed

Again, how do you know this? Patriots played away in a hostile stadium and along with some questionable pass inteference calls managed 146 yards of penalty and even got over two costly turnovers and STILL won. Colts on the other hand played admirably without Harriosn. So, I ask you again. How do you know?

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#119 dkhw
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All I know is that the thing that angers me off the most about all these Patriot "fans" in real life and on the internet is that they are all mostly bandwagon fair-weather fans, and when the Patriots become a horrible team they will all find a a new team to root for. I know all teams have bandwagon fans but with the Patriots its ridiculous.Miami84Chambers

You know this because you met every single Patriots fan in the world, right?:roll:

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#120 Soulja_West
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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"]

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]I have no respect at all for the Patriots organization. They may be the best team in the NFL, buy they're also the most hated. They have no class or character. Dutch_Mix

The best team is usually the most hated... Its more difficult for me to see that "hate" here in New England, where its love, love, love about the Pats day in and day out.

Not necessarily.

This is about class. Plain and simple. The Patriots have none and that's why everyone is against them. No one likes to see the score ran up, and no one likes to see a team cheating.

Well, other teamsneed to play better defense if they don't wont the score to run up. Until then, I hope the patriots keep running the score up to make people like you mad.

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#121 BeanTownBrown86
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patriotsowner is accusing the colts of cranking up the crowd noise thru speakers to distract the pats, he claims he heardthecrowdnoise skip,oh boy

did anyone hear "skipping" in the crowd noise, i as sure hell didnt

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#122 AHUGECAT
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patriotsowner is accusing the colts of cranking up the crowd noise thru speakers to distract the pats, he claims he heardthecrowdnoise skip,oh boy

did anyone hear "skipping" in the crowd noise, i as sure hell didnt

BeanTownBrown86

http://www.nfl.com/videos;jsessionid=5762CE26BFF0DC07954BD7FF9D594E21?videoId=09000d5d803e858a

2:25-2:30

Not only that - but the refs cheated for the Colts many times. For example, at the end of the game when Brady was kneeling, the ref not only whistled late he refused to give a penalty to the Colts defense for shouting out snap counts. This was just one of the many bias calls against the Patriots.

Not to mention Belichick's headset didn't work for most if not all of the game.

Sorry but compensating by not having Harrison by cheating is still wrong. The Colts had the refs on their side, pumped out fake crowd noise, the Colts cheated period, and had a 10 point lead in themiddle of the4th quarter and STILL lost. And these are the previous Super Bowl champions?

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#123 Cube_of_MooN
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[QUOTE="BeanTownBrown86"]

patriotsowner is accusing the colts of cranking up the crowd noise thru speakers to distract the pats, he claims he heardthecrowdnoise skip,oh boy

did anyone hear "skipping" in the crowd noise, i as sure hell didnt

AHUGECAT

http://www.nfl.com/videos;jsessionid=5762CE26BFF0DC07954BD7FF9D594E21?videoId=09000d5d803e858a

2:25-2:30

Not only that - but the refs cheated for the Colts many times. For example, at the end of the game when Brady was kneeling, the ref not only whistled late he refused to give a penalty to the Colts defense for shouting out snap counts. This was just one of the many bias calls against the Patriots.

Not to mention Belichick's headset didn't work for most if not all of the game.

Sorry but compensating by not having Harrison by cheating is still wrong. The Colts had the refs on their side, pumped out fake crowd noise, the Colts cheated period, and had a 10 point lead in themiddle of the4th quarter and STILL lost. And these are the previous Super Bowl champions?

I have no idea about the crowd noise thing, but the refs did NOT "cheat" for Indy.

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#124 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="BeanTownBrown86"]

patriotsowner is accusing the colts of cranking up the crowd noise thru speakers to distract the pats, he claims he heardthecrowdnoise skip,oh boy

did anyone hear "skipping" in the crowd noise, i as sure hell didnt

Cube_of_MooN

http://www.nfl.com/videos;jsessionid=5762CE26BFF0DC07954BD7FF9D594E21?videoId=09000d5d803e858a

2:25-2:30

Not only that - but the refs cheated for the Colts many times. For example, at the end of the game when Brady was kneeling, the ref not only whistled late he refused to give a penalty to the Colts defense for shouting out snap counts. This was just one of the many bias calls against the Patriots.

Not to mention Belichick's headset didn't work for most if not all of the game.

Sorry but compensating by not having Harrison by cheating is still wrong. The Colts had the refs on their side, pumped out fake crowd noise, the Colts cheated period, and had a 10 point lead in themiddle of the4th quarter and STILL lost. And these are the previous Super Bowl champions?

I have no idea about the crowd noise thing, but the refs did NOT "cheat" for Indy.

There are bad calls, then there are cheating calls. The refs for example did not give the Colts a penalty for doing a snap count - not only that but they blew the whistle way after Brady kneeled, this caused the Patriots center to get whacked hard. This is a cheating call. Don't even get me started on many of the "pass interference" calls. A few of those were bad calls - but the one when the defender GRABBED Moss and Moss was called for it? Psh. That's a cheating call.

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There are bad calls, then there are cheating calls. The refs for example did not give the Colts a penalty for doing a snap count - not only that but they blew the whistle way after Brady kneeled, this caused the Patriots center to get whacked hard. This is a cheating call. Don't even get me started on many of the "pass interference" calls. A few of those were bad calls - but the one when the defender GRABBED Moss and Moss was called for it? Psh. That's a cheating call.

AHUGECAT

You make it sound like all the refs got together before the game and said "Hey, lets get these Patriots. Like if they kneel the ball lets not blow the whistle. Lets not flag the Colts for yelling the snap count. Yeah, that'll show 'em who's boss."

Please, it just sounds so ridiculous.

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#126 AHUGECAT
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There are bad calls, then there are cheating calls. The refs for example did not give the Colts a penalty for doing a snap count - not only that but they blew the whistle way after Brady kneeled, this caused the Patriots center to get whacked hard. This is a cheating call. Don't even get me started on many of the "pass interference" calls. A few of those were bad calls - but the one when the defender GRABBED Moss and Moss was called for it? Psh. That's a cheating call.

Cube_of_MooN

You make it sound like all the refs got together before the game and said "Hey, lets get these Patriots. Like if they kneel the ball lets not blow the whistle. Lets not flag the Colts for yelling the snap count. Yeah, that'll show 'em who's boss."

Please, it just sounds so ridiculous.

What sounds more ridiculous:

- A game were not only that was a bad call, but many other bad/cheating calls including Light's phantom "personal foul" and Moss' mysterious pass interference. Not to mention the fake crowd noise (which was not due to CBS btw), Belichick's headset not being fixed and more.

or

- The refs were in the back playing Halo 3 so they weren't able to hear the snap counts and by the time they were done with Team Slayer on Snowbound it was too late to whistle right after Brady's kneel.

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#127 Cube_of_MooN
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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

There are bad calls, then there are cheating calls. The refs for example did not give the Colts a penalty for doing a snap count - not only that but they blew the whistle way after Brady kneeled, this caused the Patriots center to get whacked hard. This is a cheating call. Don't even get me started on many of the "pass interference" calls. A few of those were bad calls - but the one when the defender GRABBED Moss and Moss was called for it? Psh. That's a cheating call.

AHUGECAT

You make it sound like all the refs got together before the game and said "Hey, lets get these Patriots. Like if they kneel the ball lets not blow the whistle. Lets not flag the Colts for yelling the snap count. Yeah, that'll show 'em who's boss."

Please, it just sounds so ridiculous.

What sounds more ridiculous:

- A game were not only that was a bad call, but many other bad/cheating calls including Light's phantom "personal foul" and Moss' mysterious pass interference. Not to mention the fake crowd noise (which was not due to CBS btw), Belichick's headset not being fixed and more.

or

- The refs were in the back playing Halo 3 so they weren't able to hear the snap counts and by the time they were done with Team Slayer on Snowbound it was too late to whistle right after Brady's kneel.

I am a Patriots fan. Thought I'd let you know.

The penalty on Matt Light was legit. He did whip his leg out to stop the guy from getting by him. (Is this the one you mean...? There were a few.)

Moss's Pass Interference was iffy, but to accuse "cheating" goes too far.

How do you know the skip was not due to CBS?

Never heard of problems with Belicheck's head set.

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#128 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

There are bad calls, then there are cheating calls. The refs for example did not give the Colts a penalty for doing a snap count - not only that but they blew the whistle way after Brady kneeled, this caused the Patriots center to get whacked hard. This is a cheating call. Don't even get me started on many of the "pass interference" calls. A few of those were bad calls - but the one when the defender GRABBED Moss and Moss was called for it? Psh. That's a cheating call.

Cube_of_MooN

You make it sound like all the refs got together before the game and said "Hey, lets get these Patriots. Like if they kneel the ball lets not blow the whistle. Lets not flag the Colts for yelling the snap count. Yeah, that'll show 'em who's boss."

Please, it just sounds so ridiculous.

What sounds more ridiculous:

- A game were not only that was a bad call, but many other bad/cheating calls including Light's phantom "personal foul" and Moss' mysterious pass interference. Not to mention the fake crowd noise (which was not due to CBS btw), Belichick's headset not being fixed and more.

or

- The refs were in the back playing Halo 3 so they weren't able to hear the snap counts and by the time they were done with Team Slayer on Snowbound it was too late to whistle right after Brady's kneel.

I am a Patriots fan. Thought I'd let you know.

The penalty on Matt Light was legit. He did whip his leg out to stop the guy from getting by him. (Is this the one you mean...? There were a few.)

Moss's Pass Interference was iffy, but to accuse "cheating" goes too far.

How do you know the skip was not due to CBS?

Never heard of problems with Belicheck's head set.

1. Okay well they didn't show the penalty on TV so I wasn't sure or not. I admit my mistake.

2. There were too many calls like that interference to be merely just a coincidence or "bad officiating."

3. It happened on other tapes as well (WBCN), why did the commentators come through loud and clear yet the crowd has the reverb sound, or how come CBS didn't explain the technical difficulties after it happened and even now or etc. etc.

4. Well he couldn't communicate with Brady via headset, so he had to use signals. This wasn't a problem but it was never fixed for some strange reason...

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#129 dkhw
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Wrong... the better team did win. The Patriots weren't even playing there best football and despite some of those B.S. calls we still won the game.

And to Miami fans... enjoy your number one pick maybe you can get another kick returner!

Miami84Chambers

Ted Ginn is going to become a great WR and I believe we have our QB with John Beck and Ronnie Brown is one of the, if not best all around RB in the NFL, but of course we lost him to an ACL tear.

No offense, but Ted Ginn Jr. reminds me of David Patten.

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[QUOTE="zarfbloot"]LOL, look what happens when NE is actually playing against a good D... THEY GET OWNED. Addai is making their D look like a bunch of scrubs, and Brady is out there crying about the calls. Guess he's not used to getting a fair game.dkhw

Seriously, can you not just show one side of the issue? Pats were playing away at one hostile stadium, two turnovers, over 140 yards of penalty, and the refs against them, and Colts leading three quaters and STILL won. That's not good enough for you?

You Pats fans keep saying that the refs were against you, but I didn't see it. Actually, in the 1st quarter I thought the Patriots were getting all the favorable calls. You guys won and you're still whining. Amazing.
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#131 mrgab
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[QUOTE="dkhw"]

[QUOTE="zarfbloot"]LOL, look what happens when NE is actually playing against a good D... THEY GET OWNED. Addai is making their D look like a bunch of scrubs, and Brady is out there crying about the calls. Guess he's not used to getting a fair game.murlow12

Seriously, can you not just show one side of the issue? Pats were playing away at one hostile stadium, two turnovers, over 140 yards of penalty, and the refs against them, and Colts leading three quaters and STILL won. That's not good enough for you?

You Pats fans keep saying that the refs were against you, but I didn't see it. Actually, in the 1st quarter I thought the Patriots were getting all the favorable calls. You guys won and you're still whining. Amazing.

I currently live in wisconsin, and for years when the packers were a major player in the NFL and were winning most of the time. I would always hear on the radio all the negatives about what the packers did wrong and such on mondays... and that was after they won.

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#132 manningbowl135
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[QUOTE="BeanTownBrown86"]

patriotsowner is accusing the colts of cranking up the crowd noise thru speakers to distract the pats, he claims he heardthecrowdnoise skip,oh boy

did anyone hear "skipping" in the crowd noise, i as sure hell didnt

AHUGECAT

http://www.nfl.com/videos;jsessionid=5762CE26BFF0DC07954BD7FF9D594E21?videoId=09000d5d803e858a

2:25-2:30

Not only that - but the refs cheated for the Colts many times. For example, at the end of the game when Brady was kneeling, the ref not only whistled late he refused to give a penalty to the Colts defense for shouting out snap counts. This was just one of the many bias calls against the Patriots.

Not to mention Belichick's headset didn't work for most if not all of the game.

Sorry but compensating by not having Harrison by cheating is still wrong. The Colts had the refs on their side, pumped out fake crowd noise, the Colts cheated period, and had a 10 point lead in themiddle of the4th quarter and STILL lost. And these are the previous Super Bowl champions?

Any proof at all for any of them?

EDIT: Don't answer that. I just realized you can't prove it.

I can't delete right now.

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#133 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="BeanTownBrown86"]

patriotsowner is accusing the colts of cranking up the crowd noise thru speakers to distract the pats, he claims he heardthecrowdnoise skip,oh boy

did anyone hear "skipping" in the crowd noise, i as sure hell didnt

manningbowl135

http://www.nfl.com/videos;jsessionid=5762CE26BFF0DC07954BD7FF9D594E21?videoId=09000d5d803e858a

2:25-2:30

Not only that - but the refs cheated for the Colts many times. For example, at the end of the game when Brady was kneeling, the ref not only whistled late he refused to give a penalty to the Colts defense for shouting out snap counts. This was just one of the many bias calls against the Patriots.

Not to mention Belichick's headset didn't work for most if not all of the game.

Sorry but compensating by not having Harrison by cheating is still wrong. The Colts had the refs on their side, pumped out fake crowd noise, the Colts cheated period, and had a 10 point lead in themiddle of the4th quarter and STILL lost. And these are the previous Super Bowl champions?

Any proof at all for any of them?

EDIT: Don't answer that. I just realized you can't prove it.

I can't delete right now.

Watch the game, that's proof enough.

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#134 manningbowl135
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You're making all fans look bad. I saw the game, the highlights and every video on it. There was one bad PI call, (the moss one was legit), which happens in almost all games. The skip can be for a thousand reasons.

Wait, why am I saying this? You can't prove anything. All you have is your interpretations of what happened, when they can easily be interpreted someway else and be a normal game. No proof = doesn't matter.

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#135 dkhw
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You're making all fans look bad. I saw the game, the highlights and every video on it. There was one bad PI call, (the moss one was legit), which happens in almost all games. The skip can be for a thousand reasons.

Wait, why am I saying this? You can't prove anything. All you have is your interpretations of what happened, when they can easily be interpreted someway else and be a normal game. No proof = doesn't matter.

manningbowl135

Yeah. I think it's pretty much ludicrous to point the blame for Patriots playing badly to the refs. They were, I thouht, two bad calls and the hostile crowd environment and Colts' D playing more physically than I ever seen were the causes of the rest of the fouls.

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#136 dkhw
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You're making all fans look bad. I saw the game, the highlights and every video on it. There was one bad PI call, (the moss one was legit), which happens in almost all games. The skip can be for a thousand reasons.

Wait, why am I saying this? You can't prove anything. All you have is your interpretations of what happened, when they can easily be interpreted someway else and be a normal game. No proof = doesn't matter.

manningbowl135

Yeah. I think it's pretty much ludicrous to point the blame for Patriots playing badly to the refs. They were, I thouht, two bad calls and the hostile crowd environment and Colts' D playing more physically than I ever seen were the causes of the rest of the fouls.

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#137 Cube_of_MooN
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1. Okay well they didn't show the penalty on TV so I wasn't sure or not. I admit my mistake.

2. There were too many calls like that interference to be merely just a coincidence or "bad officiating."

3. It happened on other tapes as well (WBCN), why did the commentators come through loud and clear yet the crowd has the reverb sound, or how come CBS didn't explain the technical difficulties after it happened and even now or etc. etc.

4. Well he couldn't communicate with Brady via headset, so he had to use signals. This wasn't a problem but it was never fixed for some strange reason...

AHUGECAT

1. Ok, whatever that was I guess we can forget about it.

2. That's a stretch of epic proportions...

3. WBCN probably receives its audio feed from CBS. The commentators came in fine because they are on a separate feed or something; to be honest, this is an area I know very little about.

4. He couldn't communicate with Brady because the crowd was too loud and Brady couldn't hear the coaches in the radio inside his helmet, so he had to run to the side to get playcalls.

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#139 dkhw
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[QUOTE="dkhw"]

[QUOTE="zarfbloot"]LOL, look what happens when NE is actually playing against a good D... THEY GET OWNED. Addai is making their D look like a bunch of scrubs, and Brady is out there crying about the calls. Guess he's not used to getting a fair game.murlow12

Seriously, can you not just show one side of the issue? Pats were playing away at one hostile stadium, two turnovers, over 140 yards of penalty, and the refs against them, and Colts leading three quaters and STILL won. That's not good enough for you?

You Pats fans keep saying that the refs were against you, but I didn't see it. Actually, in the 1st quarter I thought the Patriots were getting all the favorable calls. You guys won and you're still whining. Amazing.

I never said the refs were against the Pats. Except for two bad PI calls, it was pretty much fair from what I saw. It was just sloppy play and the line wasn't the same playing under that crowd noise and against a good pass rushing team.

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#140 SHELLEYROCKBOY
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What a game that was. PAtriots winning with 2 td with 2 mins
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#141 SHELLEYROCKBOY
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i really wish the colts were in the NFC

Then we could have a COLTS vs PATRIOTS Super Bowl.

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#142 manningbowl135
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[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="dkhw"]

[QUOTE="zarfbloot"]LOL, look what happens when NE is actually playing against a good D... THEY GET OWNED. Addai is making their D look like a bunch of scrubs, and Brady is out there crying about the calls. Guess he's not used to getting a fair game.dkhw

Seriously, can you not just show one side of the issue? Pats were playing away at one hostile stadium, two turnovers, over 140 yards of penalty, and the refs against them, and Colts leading three quaters and STILL won. That's not good enough for you?

You Pats fans keep saying that the refs were against you, but I didn't see it. Actually, in the 1st quarter I thought the Patriots were getting all the favorable calls. You guys won and you're still whining. Amazing.

I never said the refs were against the Pats. Except for two bad PI calls, it was pretty much fair from what I saw. It was just sloppy play and the line wasn't the same playing under that crowd noise and against a good pass rushing team.

One of those bad PI's you're talking about was explained by Mike Peirera as a good call. It was a cutoff. Mike peirera is the head of NFL refs.