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#1 RobEsp
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I've seen some people say it's when you root for your hometown team. Do you agree?

I'm a New York guy, but New York teams (aside from Mets/Yankees) are secondary teams for me. I only root for them when they're in the playoffs or something, other than that I really don't care.

For basketball, I am a 76ers fan. It was the first team I saw play, it was the year they made it to the Finals against the Lakers. I was never really into watching basketball, but when I first watched them that season, I became a fan. Everyone said it was only because Iverson was there, he got traded, i'm still a Sixers fan.

For football, I am a Eagle fan. They were also the first team I saw play in 2001. (The year I really started watching sports, I played them, just found the games boring) and even to this day I root for them.

So, am I true fan, or because I don't root for my hometown team, am I not?

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#2 Shotfire20
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what if there is no hometown team does that mean your not a true fan also? im from nova scotia, canada. the closest professional team from here is in montreal, blech.
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#3 UssjTrunks
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True fans only root for the home team IMHO. I only see 2 exceptions to this rule:

1. You move from one city to another but continue to follow your old team.

2. You don't have a home team, in which case following any team would be fine, as long as you never pick a new one.
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#4 wallymartin
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Fans that don't lie.

:P

Is it my imagination, or are these threads becomming more and more common?

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#5 RobEsp
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True fans only root for the home team IMHO. I only see 2 exceptions to this rule:

1. You move from one city to another but continue to follow your old team.

2. You don't have a home team, in which case following any team would be fine, as long as you never pick a new one.UssjTrunks

Why do I have to be a fan of my hometown teams?

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[QUOTE="UssjTrunks"]True fans only root for the home team IMHO. I only see 2 exceptions to this rule:

1. You move from one city to another but continue to follow your old team.

2. You don't have a home team, in which case following any team would be fine, as long as you never pick a new one.RobEsp

Why do I have to be a fan of my hometown teams?

I agree, that's an awful way for picking a team.

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#7 mohfrontline
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anyone who likes the Dolphins after this season.
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#8 murlow12
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True fans only root for the home team IMHO. I only see 2 exceptions to this rule:

1. You move from one city to another but continue to follow your old team.

2. You don't have a home team, in which case following any team would be fine, as long as you never pick a new one.UssjTrunks
I agree with this, though I do see a 3rd, somewhat less common exception: if a good friend/family member plays for the team. Obviously if your brother plays for a team across the country you're still going to root for that team.

Other than that, being a true fan means rooting for your hometown team through the good times and the bad.

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#9 murlow12
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[QUOTE="RobEsp"]

[QUOTE="UssjTrunks"]True fans only root for the home team IMHO. I only see 2 exceptions to this rule:

1. You move from one city to another but continue to follow your old team.

2. You don't have a home team, in which case following any team would be fine, as long as you never pick a new one.Jaysonguy

Why do I have to be a fan of my hometown teams?

I agree, that's an awful way for picking a team.

An awful way of picking a team? So what's a proper way? Favorite colors? Favorite animals? Any other way is completely arbitrary.
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#10 squitsquat
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anyone who likes the Dolphins after this season.mohfrontline
oh yeah i like the dolphins and i'm not kidding
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#11 B05T0N
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I'm not from Boston, yet I've been a Sox fan my entire life (as in for nearly 20 years). I essentially dedicate my life to the Sox, even though I'm not a Bostonian. Whether they win the World Series year after year, or miraculously stay in last place in the entire league, I'll root for them just as hard. Not to mention I've invested a couple thousand dollars towards merchandise. I can safely say I consider myself a 'true' fan.
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#12 RobEsp
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Well thanks for clearing things up. Now I know i'm not a real fan until I root for all NY teams.

So, would it be ok if I became a Jets and Knicks fan? I wouldn't become a Giants fan because they just won the SB and I don't want to be considered a bandwagoner.

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#13 mrgab
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Stay with your team through the good times and bad times no matter what. Does make sense to root for your hometeam as that is the team you see the most when first getting into that sport. I grew up in Brooklyn, my dad watched the Met games everyday, they became my team as well.

Same with Giants(NFL), Rangers(NHL) and Knicks(NBA - even though lost interest in the nba still root for the knicks)

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#14 murlow12
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Well thanks for clearing things up. Now I know i'm not a real fan until I root for all NY teams.

So, would it be ok if I became a Jets and Knicks fan? I wouldn't become a Giants fan because they just won the SB and I don't want to be considered a bandwagoner.

RobEsp

Sounds good to me. You're well on your way to becoming a respectable fan.

However, I just want to clear one thing up. Do people in NY just randomly pick which NY team is their favorite? I thought it was by region. If it is by regoin, then you should follow the team that is closest to where you live.

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#15 Cube_of_MooN
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You stay with your team through victory and defeat. I'm not going to abandon the Pats because they lost the Super Bowl, and even if they went 1-15 next year they'd still be my favorite. I'd still be a Red Sox fan even if they were last in their division. I'm not much of a basketball person, but I was partially a Celtic fan last year, even when they sucked. (Even this year I don't really follow them too closely.)That makes a true fan in my mind.
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#16 andyboiii
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sticking with your team no matter what the outcome is at the end of the season

plain and simple

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#17 RobEsp
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[QUOTE="RobEsp"]

Well thanks for clearing things up. Now I know i'm not a real fan until I root for all NY teams.

So, would it be ok if I became a Jets and Knicks fan? I wouldn't become a Giants fan because they just won the SB and I don't want to be considered a bandwagoner.

murlow12

Sounds good to me. You're well on your way to becoming a respectable fan.

However, I just want to clear one thing up. Do people in NY just randomly pick which NY team is their favorite? I thought it was by region. If it is by regoin, then you should follow the team that is closest to where you live.

I live in Nassau. From what i've heard, Nassau and Suffolk residents should be Jets fans, the five boroughs are for the Giants.

If I watched hockey (I would, just never know when its on) then Islanders are more for Nassau and Suffolk, Rangers are for the boroughs.

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#18 manningbowl135
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Some people will say hometown teams. I say if you're willing to stay with the team through the bad times, you're a true fan of that team.
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a true fan is someone who follows and roots for their team no matter what. doesnt matter how bad they are or whats happened they still stay with their team. you dont have to live there to be a true fan.
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[QUOTE="RobEsp"]

Well thanks for clearing things up. Now I know i'm not a real fan until I root for all NY teams.

So, would it be ok if I became a Jets and Knicks fan? I wouldn't become a Giants fan because they just won the SB and I don't want to be considered a bandwagoner.

murlow12

Sounds good to me. You're well on your way to becoming a respectable fan.

However, I just want to clear one thing up. Do people in NY just randomly pick which NY team is their favorite? I thought it was by region. If it is by regoin, then you should follow the team that is closest to where you live.

so ur telling him that he'll be a respectectable fan by dropping the teams hes followed his whole life and just rooting for his home team? from what you say people should root for their home team even if they dont like them. since when do people not have a choice of what or who they can and cannot like?

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[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="RobEsp"]

Well thanks for clearing things up. Now I know i'm not a real fan until I root for all NY teams.

So, would it be ok if I became a Jets and Knicks fan? I wouldn't become a Giants fan because they just won the SB and I don't want to be considered a bandwagoner.

RobEsp

Sounds good to me. You're well on your way to becoming a respectable fan.

However, I just want to clear one thing up. Do people in NY just randomly pick which NY team is their favorite? I thought it was by region. If it is by regoin, then you should follow the team that is closest to where you live.

I live in Nassau. From what i've heard, Nassau and Suffolk residents should be Jets fans, the five boroughs are for the Giants.

If I watched hockey (I would, just never know when its on) then Islanders are more for Nassau and Suffolk, Rangers are for the boroughs.

You serious, your just going to switch teams just like that. If you were really a true fan of the 76ers and the Eagles, you would stick with them. A true fan doesn't mean you have to like your hometown teams. If those 2 teams were the first teams you watched and liked you should stick with them.

I live in New York, but I'm a Lakers fan. I love the Lakers and they are on the other side if the country. My friend was the reason I got into basketball and he was a Lakers fan. Don't even call me a bandwagon fan or a front-runner b/c I started to watch basketball the season after Shaq got traded(the year they sucked and didn't make the playoffs).

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#22 murlow12
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[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="RobEsp"]

Well thanks for clearing things up. Now I know i'm not a real fan until I root for all NY teams.

So, would it be ok if I became a Jets and Knicks fan? I wouldn't become a Giants fan because they just won the SB and I don't want to be considered a bandwagoner.

dcowboys3315

Sounds good to me. You're well on your way to becoming a respectable fan.

However, I just want to clear one thing up. Do people in NY just randomly pick which NY team is their favorite? I thought it was by region. If it is by regoin, then you should follow the team that is closest to where you live.

so ur telling him that he'll be a respectectable fan by dropping the teams hes followed his whole life and just rooting for his home team? from what you say people should root for their home team even if they dont like them. since when do people not have a choice of what or who they can and cannot like?

Yes, and you'd do well to do the same. It's obvious from how defensive you're getting that you live nowhere near Dallas.
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#23 dcowboys3315
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[QUOTE="dcowboys3315"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="RobEsp"]

Well thanks for clearing things up. Now I know i'm not a real fan until I root for all NY teams.

So, would it be ok if I became a Jets and Knicks fan? I wouldn't become a Giants fan because they just won the SB and I don't want to be considered a bandwagoner.

murlow12

Sounds good to me. You're well on your way to becoming a respectable fan.

However, I just want to clear one thing up. Do people in NY just randomly pick which NY team is their favorite? I thought it was by region. If it is by regoin, then you should follow the team that is closest to where you live.

so ur telling him that he'll be a respectectable fan by dropping the teams hes followed his whole life and just rooting for his home team? from what you say people should root for their home team even if they dont like them. since when do people not have a choice of what or who they can and cannot like?

Yes, and you'd do well to do the same. It's obvious from how defensive you're getting that you live nowhere near Dallas.

yes because what your saying makes no sense. if anything thats proving him not to be a real fan. your saynig that eveni f he doesnt like his home team, he HAS to root for them. if he liked them when they sucked how does it not prove him to be a real fan?

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#24 manningbowl135
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[QUOTE="dcowboys3315"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="RobEsp"]

Well thanks for clearing things up. Now I know i'm not a real fan until I root for all NY teams.

So, would it be ok if I became a Jets and Knicks fan? I wouldn't become a Giants fan because they just won the SB and I don't want to be considered a bandwagoner.

murlow12

Sounds good to me. You're well on your way to becoming a respectable fan.

However, I just want to clear one thing up. Do people in NY just randomly pick which NY team is their favorite? I thought it was by region. If it is by regoin, then you should follow the team that is closest to where you live.

so ur telling him that he'll be a respectectable fan by dropping the teams hes followed his whole life and just rooting for his home team? from what you say people should root for their home team even if they dont like them. since when do people not have a choice of what or who they can and cannot like?

Yes, and you'd do well to do the same.

Lol.

Root for whoever you want dcowboy.

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="RobEsp"]

[QUOTE="UssjTrunks"]True fans only root for the home team IMHO. I only see 2 exceptions to this rule:

1. You move from one city to another but continue to follow your old team.

2. You don't have a home team, in which case following any team would be fine, as long as you never pick a new one.murlow12

Why do I have to be a fan of my hometown teams?

I agree, that's an awful way for picking a team.

An awful way of picking a team? So what's a proper way? Favorite colors? Favorite animals? Any other way is completely arbitrary.

Anything that involves actually doing something rather then pulling up Mapquest and seeing who you'll be rooting for.

What happens if two teams are the same distance away from your home?

What happens if one team is closer to you BUT it's over the border but the team in your own state is farther away?

Now is it your home or is it your state? Do we draw the line at state or is it country?

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#26 murlow12
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[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="dcowboys3315"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="RobEsp"]

Well thanks for clearing things up. Now I know i'm not a real fan until I root for all NY teams.

So, would it be ok if I became a Jets and Knicks fan? I wouldn't become a Giants fan because they just won the SB and I don't want to be considered a bandwagoner.

dcowboys3315

Sounds good to me. You're well on your way to becoming a respectable fan.

However, I just want to clear one thing up. Do people in NY just randomly pick which NY team is their favorite? I thought it was by region. If it is by regoin, then you should follow the team that is closest to where you live.

so ur telling him that he'll be a respectectable fan by dropping the teams hes followed his whole life and just rooting for his home team? from what you say people should root for their home team even if they dont like them. since when do people not have a choice of what or who they can and cannot like?

Yes, and you'd do well to do the same. It's obvious from how defensive you're getting that you live nowhere near Dallas.

yes because what your saying makes no sense. if anything thats proving him not to be a real fan. your saynig that eveni f he doesnt like his home team, he HAS to root for them. if he liked them when they sucked how does it not prove him to be a real fan?

Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.
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[QUOTE="dcowboys3315"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="dcowboys3315"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="RobEsp"]

Well thanks for clearing things up. Now I know i'm not a real fan until I root for all NY teams.

So, would it be ok if I became a Jets and Knicks fan? I wouldn't become a Giants fan because they just won the SB and I don't want to be considered a bandwagoner.

murlow12

Sounds good to me. You're well on your way to becoming a respectable fan.

However, I just want to clear one thing up. Do people in NY just randomly pick which NY team is their favorite? I thought it was by region. If it is by regoin, then you should follow the team that is closest to where you live.

so ur telling him that he'll be a respectectable fan by dropping the teams hes followed his whole life and just rooting for his home team? from what you say people should root for their home team even if they dont like them. since when do people not have a choice of what or who they can and cannot like?

Yes, and you'd do well to do the same. It's obvious from how defensive you're getting that you live nowhere near Dallas.

yes because what your saying makes no sense. if anything thats proving him not to be a real fan. your saynig that eveni f he doesnt like his home team, he HAS to root for them. if he liked them when they sucked how does it not prove him to be a real fan?

Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.

hahaha its not possible to just stop not liking a team. and i guess 5-11 seasons and never seeing them win a playoff game counts as me picking the best team at that time...and the eagles have been better then the cowboys practically my whole life so i guess that makes sense i didnt like them b/c they suck right

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Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.murlow12

Let's say you live in Atlanta and the leader of that team has been a dirtbag for years and now goes to prison. In this time the team and city has made nothing but excuses for him.

Then you see Manning and you enjoy the way he approaches the game up in Indy and you see the way that Indy supports their team and players.

What's wrong with following the Colts because you think they're a better team (in the terms of a good place rather then winning) on and off the field?

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#30 murlow12
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[QUOTE="murlow12"]Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.Jaysonguy

Let's say you live in Atlanta and the leader of that team has been a dirtbag for years and now goes to prison. In this time the team and city has made nothing but excuses for him.

Then you see Manning and you enjoy the way he approaches the game up in Indy and you see the way that Indy supports their team and players.

What's wrong with following the Colts because you think they're a better team (in the terms of a good place rather then winning) on and off the field?

You should realize that you're going to be a fan your whole life (maybe 80 years), so why jump ship b/c of a few bad years? In 10 years Vick will be an afterthought, so why abandon your team? That's called loyalty, and most of you non-homers don't know what it means.
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#31 dcowboys3315
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"]Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.murlow12

Let's say you live in Atlanta and the leader of that team has been a dirtbag for years and now goes to prison. In this time the team and city has made nothing but excuses for him.

Then you see Manning and you enjoy the way he approaches the game up in Indy and you see the way that Indy supports their team and players.

What's wrong with following the Colts because you think they're a better team (in the terms of a good place rather then winning) on and off the field?

You should realize that you're going to be a fan your whole life (maybe 80 years), so why jump ship b/c of a few bad years? In 10 years Vick will be an afterthought, so why abandon your team? That's called loyalty, and most of you non-homers don't know what it means.

so homers are the only loyal fans?

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"]Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.murlow12

Let's say you live in Atlanta and the leader of that team has been a dirtbag for years and now goes to prison. In this time the team and city has made nothing but excuses for him.

Then you see Manning and you enjoy the way he approaches the game up in Indy and you see the way that Indy supports their team and players.

What's wrong with following the Colts because you think they're a better team (in the terms of a good place rather then winning) on and off the field?

You should realize that you're going to be a fan your whole life (maybe 80 years), so why jump ship b/c of a few bad years? In 10 years Vick will be an afterthought, so why abandon your team? That's called loyalty, and most of you non-homers don't know what it means.

So a guy from Pennsylvania who loved the Dolphins in 72 and loves the 1-15 Dolphins in 08 isn't loyal?

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[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"]Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.dcowboys3315

Let's say you live in Atlanta and the leader of that team has been a dirtbag for years and now goes to prison. In this time the team and city has made nothing but excuses for him.

Then you see Manning and you enjoy the way he approaches the game up in Indy and you see the way that Indy supports their team and players.

What's wrong with following the Colts because you think they're a better team (in the terms of a good place rather then winning) on and off the field?

You should realize that you're going to be a fan your whole life (maybe 80 years), so why jump ship b/c of a few bad years? In 10 years Vick will be an afterthought, so why abandon your team? That's called loyalty, and most of you non-homers don't know what it means.

so homers are the only loyal fans?

Yes, except for the few excedtions that were pointed out earlier.
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[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"]Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.manningbowl135

Let's say you live in Atlanta and the leader of that team has been a dirtbag for years and now goes to prison. In this time the team and city has made nothing but excuses for him.

Then you see Manning and you enjoy the way he approaches the game up in Indy and you see the way that Indy supports their team and players.

What's wrong with following the Colts because you think they're a better team (in the terms of a good place rather then winning) on and off the field?

You should realize that you're going to be a fan your whole life (maybe 80 years), so why jump ship b/c of a few bad years? In 10 years Vick will be an afterthought, so why abandon your team? That's called loyalty, and most of you non-homers don't know what it means.

So a guy from Pennsylvania who loved the Dolphins in 72 and loves the 1-15 Dolphins in 08 isn't loyal?

He's loyal, but he isn't a true fan (unless he has another valid reason to root for the 'Fins).
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[QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"]Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.murlow12

Let's say you live in Atlanta and the leader of that team has been a dirtbag for years and now goes to prison. In this time the team and city has made nothing but excuses for him.

Then you see Manning and you enjoy the way he approaches the game up in Indy and you see the way that Indy supports their team and players.

What's wrong with following the Colts because you think they're a better team (in the terms of a good place rather then winning) on and off the field?

You should realize that you're going to be a fan your whole life (maybe 80 years), so why jump ship b/c of a few bad years? In 10 years Vick will be an afterthought, so why abandon your team? That's called loyalty, and most of you non-homers don't know what it means.

So a guy from Pennsylvania who loved the Dolphins in 72 and loves the 1-15 Dolphins in 08 isn't loyal?

He's loyal, but he isn't a true fan (unless he has another valid reason to root for the 'Fins).

I'd rather have a loyal fan than a guy who roots for his team only b/c they're in the same area code.

At least I know the loyal fan loves his team no matter what. That "true fan" will forget his team if he ever moves.

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#36 murlow12
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[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"]Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.manningbowl135

Let's say you live in Atlanta and the leader of that team has been a dirtbag for years and now goes to prison. In this time the team and city has made nothing but excuses for him.

Then you see Manning and you enjoy the way he approaches the game up in Indy and you see the way that Indy supports their team and players.

What's wrong with following the Colts because you think they're a better team (in the terms of a good place rather then winning) on and off the field?

You should realize that you're going to be a fan your whole life (maybe 80 years), so why jump ship b/c of a few bad years? In 10 years Vick will be an afterthought, so why abandon your team? That's called loyalty, and most of you non-homers don't know what it means.

So a guy from Pennsylvania who loved the Dolphins in 72 and loves the 1-15 Dolphins in 08 isn't loyal?

He's loyal, but he isn't a true fan (unless he has another valid reason to root for the 'Fins).

I'd rather have a loyal fan than a guy who roots for his team only b/c they're in the same area code.

At least I know the loyal fan loves his team no matter what. That "true fan" will forget his team if he ever moves.

That's just silly. Most people stay in the same general location their whole lives, so it's a moot point. And even if someone does move, they've likely stayed long enough in their home town that they still relate to the city. If you live in Indy your first 20 years and then move to NY, of course you going to still be a Colts' fan. The only way it gets complicated is if you don't consider anywhere "home" (a military family that moves a lot, for example). In that case you're forced to pick a team, but that's another limited example.
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[QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"]Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.murlow12

Let's say you live in Atlanta and the leader of that team has been a dirtbag for years and now goes to prison. In this time the team and city has made nothing but excuses for him.

Then you see Manning and you enjoy the way he approaches the game up in Indy and you see the way that Indy supports their team and players.

What's wrong with following the Colts because you think they're a better team (in the terms of a good place rather then winning) on and off the field?

You should realize that you're going to be a fan your whole life (maybe 80 years), so why jump ship b/c of a few bad years? In 10 years Vick will be an afterthought, so why abandon your team? That's called loyalty, and most of you non-homers don't know what it means.

So a guy from Pennsylvania who loved the Dolphins in 72 and loves the 1-15 Dolphins in 08 isn't loyal?

He's loyal, but he isn't a true fan (unless he has another valid reason to root for the 'Fins).

now to me that makes absolutely no sense. if someone is loyal to their team, how are they not a true fan?

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[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"]Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.dcowboys3315

Let's say you live in Atlanta and the leader of that team has been a dirtbag for years and now goes to prison. In this time the team and city has made nothing but excuses for him.

Then you see Manning and you enjoy the way he approaches the game up in Indy and you see the way that Indy supports their team and players.

What's wrong with following the Colts because you think they're a better team (in the terms of a good place rather then winning) on and off the field?

You should realize that you're going to be a fan your whole life (maybe 80 years), so why jump ship b/c of a few bad years? In 10 years Vick will be an afterthought, so why abandon your team? That's called loyalty, and most of you non-homers don't know what it means.

So a guy from Pennsylvania who loved the Dolphins in 72 and loves the 1-15 Dolphins in 08 isn't loyal?

He's loyal, but he isn't a true fan (unless he has another valid reason to root for the 'Fins).

now to me that makes absolutely no sense. if someone is loyal to their team, how are they not a true fan?

B/c they had no reason to root for them in the first place. It's especially bad if they started liking a team b/c they were so dominant (i.e., the 72 Dolphins or the Cowboys of the 90s).
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"]Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.murlow12

Let's say you live in Atlanta and the leader of that team has been a dirtbag for years and now goes to prison. In this time the team and city has made nothing but excuses for him.

Then you see Manning and you enjoy the way he approaches the game up in Indy and you see the way that Indy supports their team and players.

What's wrong with following the Colts because you think they're a better team (in the terms of a good place rather then winning) on and off the field?

You should realize that you're going to be a fan your whole life (maybe 80 years), so why jump ship b/c of a few bad years? In 10 years Vick will be an afterthought, so why abandon your team? That's called loyalty, and most of you non-homers don't know what it means.

They're not his team yet lol He just started following the sport and the team in his backyard deals with trash, he should say "that's the life for me?" lol

Also I love that your rules mean that New Yorkers would root for the Yankees AND the Mets

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[QUOTE="dcowboys3315"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"]Why wouldn't you like your home team? You act like I'm forcing you to root for a team you hate. How about this: just don't hate your home team. For people like you that's hard, though, b/c your home team was probably bad when you started watching sports. The Cowboys were the best team so you picked them. Dispicable, really.murlow12

Let's say you live in Atlanta and the leader of that team has been a dirtbag for years and now goes to prison. In this time the team and city has made nothing but excuses for him.

Then you see Manning and you enjoy the way he approaches the game up in Indy and you see the way that Indy supports their team and players.

What's wrong with following the Colts because you think they're a better team (in the terms of a good place rather then winning) on and off the field?

You should realize that you're going to be a fan your whole life (maybe 80 years), so why jump ship b/c of a few bad years? In 10 years Vick will be an afterthought, so why abandon your team? That's called loyalty, and most of you non-homers don't know what it means.

So a guy from Pennsylvania who loved the Dolphins in 72 and loves the 1-15 Dolphins in 08 isn't loyal?

He's loyal, but he isn't a true fan (unless he has another valid reason to root for the 'Fins).

now to me that makes absolutely no sense. if someone is loyal to their team, how are they not a true fan?

B/c they had no reason to root for them in the first place. It's especially bad if they started liking a team b/c they were so dominant (i.e., the 72 Dolphins or the Cowboys of the 90s).

but what if they started liking them when they were bad?

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Ok, so fans are supposed to root for

Duke AND North Carolina

Yankees AND Mets

49'ers AND Raiders

Florida State AND Miami

Oklahoma AND Oklahoma State

Kansas AND Kansas State

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Ok, so fans are supposed to root for

Duke AND North Carolina

Yankees AND Mets

49'ers AND Raiders

Florida State AND Miami

Oklahoma AND Oklahoma State

Kansas AND Kansas State

Jaysonguy

what are you trying to say with this post?

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#43 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Ok, so fans are supposed to root for

Duke AND North Carolina

Yankees AND Mets

49'ers AND Raiders

Florida State AND Miami

Oklahoma AND Oklahoma State

Kansas AND Kansas State

dcowboys3315

what are you trying to say with this post?

He's saying that you support the team where you live. Well in these places there's 2 teams in the same area and they really hate each other (though the 49'er/Raider fued has simmered down lately) but following his rules we're supposed to support both of them.

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Ok, so fans are supposed to root for

Duke AND North Carolina

Yankees AND Mets

49'ers AND Raiders

Florida State AND Miami

Oklahoma AND Oklahoma State

Kansas AND Kansas State

dcowboys3315

what are you trying to say with this post?

That according to murlow, a fan should love his team and if their rival is from the same area, he must love the rival too.

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[QUOTE="dcowboys3315"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Ok, so fans are supposed to root for

Duke AND North Carolina

Yankees AND Mets

49'ers AND Raiders

Florida State AND Miami

Oklahoma AND Oklahoma State

Kansas AND Kansas State

manningbowl135

what are you trying to say with this post?

That according to murlow, a fan should love his team and if their rival is from the same area, he must love the rival too.

ohh. from other posts i thought he supported what murlow was saying...that reminds me the big games tonight

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Ok, so fans are supposed to root for

Duke AND North Carolina

Yankees AND Mets

49'ers AND Raiders

Florida State AND Miami

Oklahoma AND Oklahoma State

Kansas AND Kansas State

Jaysonguy


Then it depends on which team is closest to you.
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I think a true fan is someone who sticks with the team through the good and the bad who is proud to say he is a fan even when the team is in turmoil that is a true fan and i dont think it matters if its there hometown team or not why should he support a team when deep down he couldnt careless about them just because he was born or now lives there i would never be a true fan of my hometown team because there just isnt that connection there that i have with Liverpool.
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#48 murlow12
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Also I love that your rules mean that New Yorkers would root for the Yankees AND the MetsJaysonguy
It's great that you didn't pay attention to anything that's been said previously. I've said all along that each team has a territory. It's no different for the Yanks and Mets. Any New Yorker on here will be able to tell you what parts of the state like which team.
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#49 murlow12
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[QUOTE="dcowboys3315"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Ok, so fans are supposed to root for

Duke AND North Carolina

Yankees AND Mets

49'ers AND Raiders

Florida State AND Miami

Oklahoma AND Oklahoma State

Kansas AND Kansas State

manningbowl135

what are you trying to say with this post?

That according to murlow, a fan should love his team and if their rival is from the same area, he must love the rival too.

Come on, Manningbowl, you know I don't feel that way. Do I love the Lakers and Clippers, Dodgers and Angels, and Kings and Ducks? Of course not. There is a certain area assigned to each team. In my case, I root for the true LA teams (Lakers, Dodgers, Kings). It's very simple, really. I can't understand why you guys are so confused.
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Location should not decide if your a true fan or not. I'm from NC but I'm a hardcore Dallas Cowboys fan (mainly because before NC got a football team you were either a Dallas or a Washington fan here). Thinking location determines a true fan is a pretty idiotic statment.