Everyone doubted an Eastern team would win the last two times it happened (Miami last year, and Detroit two years (and almost one year before as well) before that)... and Pistons have a weak bench? They had a moderate one last year and went deep (and didn't finish because Flip didn't realize then that this team knows how to run the race, Flip is a regular season guy, and he's changed now)... they've addressed their bench problems well... you CLEARLY have not been watching (their bench develop) and are one of those copy and paste espn readers... espn publishes well thought out opinions, but not all of them are right... and besides that, I haven't seen any experts bangin their bench lately anyway, which leads me to believe the Pistons BENCH haters are a few years too late (probably the real case here)... actually WATCH their games before you talk crap(their bench production is near the level it was when they won it all a few years back fellas), I've seen almost every team play this year at least once, if not twice (very few exceptions), and I don't just steal old arguments from the past... do more than copy and paste arguments people...
whoops, almost forgot, they're on tnt tonight folks, at home, playing the Lakers at 8. Watch them, they already beat the Lakers in LA earlier this year on like, the second or third game of the season (when they were performing with less motivation and didn't have some of the players they have now (cough *revitalized, happy c webb, very underrated when in happy situations vets. are* long cough))... they might end up sweeping the series with the Lakes this year, AND Odom is back, so that can't be an excuse (which would be if they lost, and he was there when they played them earlier this year too in LA). ScoopyMcScoop
Pistons don't have a good bench. They lost their bench when they traded Arroyo and Darko last year for Kelvin Cato's extra cap space. When the Pistons beat the Lakers 3 years ago they had a pretty deep bench. Lindsey Hunter is getting up there in age. C-Web is old and has messed up knees, he's a defensive liability when he gets in the game. Mohammed is inconsistent and he seems to be messing up the Pistons chemistry (there's been reports that he's been bugging Dumars to trade him because Mohammed thinks he should get more playing time). Dale Davis is too old. Carlos Delfino should play more but for some reason doesn't. McDyess is the only good bench player the Pistons have. I think he should start with as PF and Sheed should move to C. The rest of the Pistons bench is too young and inexperienced.
Also their defense isn't as good as they used to be since they lost Ben Wallace and Flip Saunders concentrates mainly on offense. The Pistons would probably still be favorites if they still had Big Ben and Mehmet Okur. Think about it if the Pistons still had their starting five of Billups, Hamilton, Prince, and the Wallace boys while their bench had Arroyo, Delfino, Webber, Mcdyess, Okur and Darko. Oh well, money talks.
Umm, so did anyone watch the Pistons beat the crap outta the Lakers to sweep the season series? Yeah, that's what I thought punks. Loser Mike, you obviously don't watch the Pistons, and you woulda been treated to a clinic tonight if you'da watched like I did. You don't know about good benches. Check the stats, like I said, they're near the production they had when they won it all, numbers don't lie, and heck, numbers can't even describe (well, they kinda can ;)) how much better Webber is playing now that he's happy. Congratulations on being wrong to the fella who thought the Lakes would own it up tonight too ;) See yall in the finals yo!
Umm, so did anyone watch the Pistons beat the crap outta the Lakers to sweep the season series? Yeah, that's what I thought punks. Loser Mike, you obviously don't watch the Pistons, and you woulda been treated to a clinic tonight if you'da watched like I did. You don't know about good benches. Check the stats, like I said, they're near the production they had when they won it all, numbers don't lie, and heck, numbers can't even describe (well, they kinda can ;)) how much better Webber is playing now that he's happy. Congratulations on being wrong to the fella who thought the Lakes would own it up tonight too ;) See yall in the finals yo!ScoopyMcScoop
It's the Lakers, they're not even the top 5 in the West. Like I said the Lakers are young. So they're not a good team to compare the Pistons too. You're obviously a Pistons fan and don't watch other NBA games. Just like all the Lakers fans who think the Lakers will go further than the 2nd round this year. Also the stats for their bench suck and Webber will break down or he'll choke. He always chokes just like when he was in Michigan and when he was in Sac-town. If you want to see a good bench check out the Mavericks. They're the only team that plays 10 players per game consistently.
Mavs and Suns are the favorites for a reason. Even though the Suns have a weak bench and weak defense, all they need is momentum because all they need to do is win 16 games to win the championship. Once they're on fire like their 2 15+ winning streaks their unstoppable. While for the Mavericks it's all mental, if they panic like they did against the HEAT last year, than they're gone. San Antonio could/should win it if they can trade for Barry/Finley for a young, athletic, and good SG/SF. Pistons while need to get a better back-up guard and back-up foward. They're stacked in the C position but because of the small-ball revolution going on in the NBA, they maybe too slow on defense to stop the fastbreak. If they trade Mohammed for someone like Tony Allen or Marquis Daniels, they have a good shot at winning the Championship.
No, YOU clearly don't watch other games, it's evident by the fact that you don't realize the Lakers WILL be a challenge this year (hell, they nearly took out the Suns last year (though I do consider the lack of Amare), and do you not realize a lot of analyst are picking them as the darkhorse? it's for a good reason buddy). ...and the fact that you diss the Pistons bench again is evidence to the fact that you won't even look up the stats you lazy A. GO LOOK THEM UP! They're presented during most of the games in fact, so there is another reason I know you're lazy and talkin outta yer butt, they show this crap during games too. It's a fact, their bench is producing near the level of their last ship team. STOP BEING FREAKING LAZY! Yes, the East is weaker, but it HAS been the last 4 to 5 years dude, and we still have had a split the last four titles between the conferences. I don't care how much you wanna hawk crap like teams getting hot HALF WAY THROUGH THIS SEASON. What were the Pistons last year? They were the HOTTEST brother, all freakin year LONG.... until it COUNTED! Get your facts straight, and when all else fails, we will see what goes down this year WHEN IT COUNTS BUDDY (good for phoenix, they still suck against good teams, woopdie doo, you beat the spurs once on your home floor)...
The Mavs have a mental toughness that I don’t see in any other team in the NBA right now. They have the best coach in the NBA right now. He has more fire than any player on the floor. They have a bench that can and has out scored the starters. They aren’t playing for the best record or home court. They are playing for a championship.
[QUOTE="ScoopyMcScoop"]No, YOU clearly don't watch other games, it's evident by the fact that you don't realize the Lakers WILL be a challenge this year (hell, they nearly took out the Suns last year (though I do consider the lack of Amare), and do you not realize a lot of analyst are picking them as the darkhorse? it's for a good reason buddy). ...and the fact that you diss the Pistons bench again is evidence to the fact that you won't even look up the stats you lazy A. GO LOOK THEM UP! They're presented during most of the games in fact, so there is another reason I know you're lazy and talkin outta yer butt, they show this crap during games too. It's a fact, their bench is producing near the level of their last ship team. STOP BEING FREAKING LAZY! Yes, the East is weaker, but it HAS been the last 4 to 5 years dude, and we still have had a split the last four titles between the conferences. I don't care how much you wanna hawk crap like teams getting hot HALF WAY THROUGH THIS SEASON. What were the Pistons last year? They were the HOTTEST brother, all freakin year LONG.... until it COUNTED! Get your facts straight, and when all else fails, we will see what goes down this year WHEN IT COUNTS BUDDY (good for phoenix, they still suck against good teams, woopdie doo, you beat the spurs once on your home floor)...
Lakers will be a challenge this year??? That's ridiculous! Everybody says the Phoenix Suns have no defense, when this year the Lakers are worse defensively than even the Suns. Suns have the 10th worse defense while the Lakers have the 9th worse defense. But that's because of their youth, rather than their strategy. The Lakers also are weak in the PG and C position. The Lakers would be better off if they started Farmar over Parker and are better off with a combo of Bynum and Mihm (when he comes back) because Brown has butter fingers.
You complain to me about just spouting off what analysts say when you're just listeing to what analysts say about the Lakers. Nobody other Phil Jackson has noticed that they have dropped off significantly on Defense this year, everybody is just concentrating on how Kobe is passing for the first time ever. Even Phil admits that their defense isn't up to snuff.
The darkhorse for the championship is Houston (if Yao and T-Mac are healty) and the Jazz.
I did watch the Pistons game and the bench stats weren't impressive. First of all, even though this was a blowout thru out the 4th quater, no bench player from the Pistons played more than 20 minutes, that's an indication that Flip Saunders still doesn't trust the bench, also somehow old man Webber played more than 40, when usually star players are the first players to the bench during blowouts. Another problem is there's no double-digit scorer on the bench, usually there's a disignated 6th man who sometimes explode for alot of points like Stackhouse or Barbosa.
Check the overall 2006-07 stats. Only the starters are scoring in double-digits. Since you accused me check out the stats website, I guess you're not looking yourself, so who'ss lazy now? http://www.nba.com/pistons/stats/
LoserMike obviously I am a Pistons fan so I am biased, but the Mavs have 5 double digit scorers as do the Pistons and their team average of 100.3 PPG is only 3 higher than the Pistons. With Webber here I look for an increase in those offensive numbers.
Since Webber got here, out players have been playing with an intensity not seen for a long time. There is no doubt in my mind that we will come out of the East and if you think whoever comes out of the West ( Suns or Mavs) are just going to roll over us, I think we are going to surprise a hell of a lot of people like in 04.
LoserMike obviously I am a Pistons fan so I am biased, but the Mavs have 5 double digit scorers as do the Pistons and their team average of 100.3 PPG is only 3 higher than the Pistons. With Webber here I look for an increase in those offensive numbers.
Since Webber got here, out players have been playing with an intensity not seen for a long time. There is no doubt in my mind that we will come out of the East and if you think whoever comes out of the West ( Suns or Mavs) are just going to roll over us, I think we are going to surprise a hell of a lot of people like in 04.shooks20
Trust me dude take this from a Spurs fan....You will miss Big Ben come playoffs, Nazi will flop.
LoserMike obviously I am a Pistons fan so I am biased, but the Mavs have 5 double digit scorers as do the Pistons and their team average of 100.3 PPG is only 3 higher than the Pistons. With Webber here I look for an increase in those offensive numbers.
Since Webber got here, out players have been playing with an intensity not seen for a long time. There is no doubt in my mind that we will come out of the East and if you think whoever comes out of the West ( Suns or Mavs) are just going to roll over us, I think we are going to surprise a hell of a lot of people like in 04.shooks20
One of the Mavs double-digit scorers comes off the bench. When the Pistons won the championship in '04 and competed in the finals in '05 their 5th best scorer came off the bench. Ben Wallace was started just for his defense, just like how the Mavs start Dampier or Diop just for their defense (though they're no where near the level of Ben's defense, they cover Dirk's defensive liabilities). Basically the '04 and '05 Pistons had a better balance between the starters and the bench. This year's Pistons there's a huge disparity between the starters and the bench, that it worries me that the starters have to play alot of minutes and Webber ain't getting any younger. That's why everybody keeps saying the Suns won't go to the Finals because Nash is wearing out by playing so much during the regular season. Unless somehow the Suns get Tony Parker, Chris Paul, or Jason Kidd to backup Nash, I see their offense stalling during the playoffs.
Also, I don't see a West team rolling over an East Team in the finals. A team with a great explosive scorer like the Wizards (Arenas) or the HEAT (Wade) can completely surprise a Western Conference team.
[QUOTE="shooks20"]LoserMike obviously I am a Pistons fan so I am biased, but the Mavs have 5 double digit scorers as do the Pistons and their team average of 100.3 PPG is only 3 higher than the Pistons. With Webber here I look for an increase in those offensive numbers.
Since Webber got here, out players have been playing with an intensity not seen for a long time. There is no doubt in my mind that we will come out of the East and if you think whoever comes out of the West ( Suns or Mavs) are just going to roll over us, I think we are going to surprise a hell of a lot of people like in 04.Espurs117
Trust me dude take this from a Spurs fan....You will miss Big Ben come playoffs, Nazi will flop.
I don't think Nazr will be on this team much longer. He gets no PT now anyway.
If you think 05's bench was performing better than this years, it is clear yet AGAIN that you HAVEN'T looked up bench stats, and you have NO idea what you're TALKING about! This years Pistons bench is better than 05's, but not quite up to 04's yet, and if you had any idea what you were talking about, you'd know this. 05's bench is not better than 06/07's PERIOD. Much more productivity from many of the same guys this time around, and more balance.
Wow the fact that you did not put the Detroit Pistons on this list make me realize you do not completely understand the game of basketball. Oh and the fact that all teams are from the WEST. FYI Pistons are gonna have a really good chance of winning if they dont win it will be a good fight, the team has improved so much with the signing of C-Web. Dont deny it the Pistons are gonna win another championship very soon.
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