Yeah, Rex was bad. Really bad. But I don't see how a QB who took his team to the Super Bowl can be the worst of the decade.monkeytoes61His defense did. But I think Rex is in the running.
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Yeah, Rex was bad. Really bad. But I don't see how a QB who took his team to the Super Bowl can be the worst of the decade.MoonMarvelHe didnt take the Bears to the Super Bowl, his defense did. I don't care how good your defense is, you don't get to the Super Bowl with the worst QB of the decade.
[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Yeah, Rex was bad. Really bad. But I don't see how a QB who took his team to the Super Bowl can be the worst of the decade.monkeytoes61He didnt take the Bears to the Super Bowl, his defense did. I don't care how good your defense is, you don't get to the Super Bowl with the worst QB of the decade.Look at his stats and then talk to me. Rex is a terrible QB and there is no denying that. If the Bears defense wasnt as good as it was they wouldnt have made the playoffs. It was the Bears D that got them there, not Rex.
[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Yeah, Rex was bad. Really bad. But I don't see how a QB who took his team to the Super Bowl can be the worst of the decade.MoonMarvelHe didnt take the Bears to the Super Bowl, his defense did.
Don't forget Devin Hester. That guy helped the Bears team that year a lot.
[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]He didnt take the Bears to the Super Bowl, his defense did.MoonMarvelI don't care how good your defense is, you don't get to the Super Bowl with the worst QB of the decade.Look at his stats and then talk to me. Rex is a terrible QB and there is no denying that. If the Bears defense wasnt as good as it was they wouldnt have made the playoffs. It was the Bears D that got them there, not Rex. I know he was terrible, look at my first post. But, there is no way a team can get to the Super Bowl with the decade's worst QB. It doesn't matter how good your defense is.
Ryan Leaf has to take the title of Worst QB of the decade. Not only did he suck, but was a douche bag too.
[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]He didnt take the Bears to the Super Bowl, his defense did.MoonMarvelI don't care how good your defense is, you don't get to the Super Bowl with the worst QB of the decade.Look at his stats and then talk to me. Rex is a terrible QB and there is no denying that. If the Bears defense wasnt as good as it was they wouldnt have made the playoffs. It was the Bears D that got them there, not Rex.
His stats aren't great, but they're not worst QB of the decade bad, and I really hated Grossman when he was here.
After today's game, though, I think it's really obvious who the worst of the decade is: Kyle Orton.
Ryan Leaf has to take the title of Worst QB of the decade. Not only did he suck, but was a douche bag too.
monkeytoes61
I agree, there's rarely been such a terrible combination.
Ryan Leaf, hands down the worst QB. then you got players like Tim Couch, couldn't do jack with the Browns, David Carr couldn't do it for the Texans and won't come back as a starter. Regardless of his stats and if you like Rex or not he's not the worst and if you say he is then you got to add-
Dan Marino- took the dolphins to the SB once and lost.
Jim McMahon- took the Bears to the SB and won, but couldn't do anything else with the Bears, Cards or Eagles.
Ron Jaworski- couldn't do anything with the Rams, Eagles, Dolphins or Chiefs
Steve DeBerg- couldn't do it with 7 different teams.
The list goes on and on but none of these guys would be or should be considered the worst QB.
Ryan Leaf, hands down the worst QB. then you got players like Tim Couch, couldn't do jack with the Browns, David Carr couldn't do it for the Texans and won't come back as a starter. Regardless of his stats and if you like Rex or not he's not the worst and if you say he is then you got to add-
Dan Marino- took the dolphins to the SB once and lost.
Jim McMahon- took the Bears to the SB and won, but couldn't do anything else with the Bears, Cards or Eagles.
Ron Jaworski- couldn't do anything with the Rams, Eagles, Dolphins or Chiefs
Steve DeBerg- couldn't do it with 7 different teams.
The list goes on and on but none of these guys would be or should be considered the worst QB.
CADMAN_3
A. Decade=ten years, not twenty.
B. You're calling Dan Marino bad, Dan Marino? Just because he never won a Superbowl? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
C. Jim McMahon wasn't great, but he was far from the worst of his decade, not to mention all-time. He was a pretty decent QB when you look at his stats.
Ryan Leaf, hands down the worst QB. then you got players like Tim Couch, couldn't do jack with the Browns, David Carr couldn't do it for the Texans and won't come back as a starter. Regardless of his stats and if you like Rex or not he's not the worst and if you say he is then you got to add-
Dan Marino- took the dolphins to the SB once and lost.
Jim McMahon- took the Bears to the SB and won, but couldn't do anything else with the Bears, Cards or Eagles.
Ron Jaworski- couldn't do anything with the Rams, Eagles, Dolphins or Chiefs
Steve DeBerg- couldn't do it with 7 different teams.
The list goes on and on but none of these guys would be or should be considered the worst QB.
This is a joke post right?[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]
Ryan Leaf has to take the title of Worst QB of the decade. Not only did he suck, but was a douche bag too.
Darth_Revan_666
I agree, there's rarely been such a terrible combination.
Well Leaf hardly played this decade anyway. 11 games in 2000 and 4 in '01...hardly in my mind qualifies him as "worst of the decade"
People are posting on here about Rex Grossman or Jamarcus Russel or Mark Bulger are the worst because of there numbers. If you do that then you need to add other QB to. Rex and the Bears did make it to the SB, regardless of his numbers he's not THE WORST. Just like McNabb is not the worst. Bad maybe but not the worst.
[QUOTE="CADMAN_3"]
Ryan Leaf, hands down the worst QB. then you got players like Tim Couch, couldn't do jack with the Browns, David Carr couldn't do it for the Texans and won't come back as a starter. Regardless of his stats and if you like Rex or not he's not the worst and if you say he is then you got to add-
Dan Marino- took the dolphins to the SB once and lost.
Jim McMahon- took the Bears to the SB and won, but couldn't do anything else with the Bears, Cards or Eagles.
Ron Jaworski- couldn't do anything with the Rams, Eagles, Dolphins or Chiefs
Steve DeBerg- couldn't do it with 7 different teams.
The list goes on and on but none of these guys would be or should be considered the worst QB.
A. Decade=ten years, not twenty.
B. You're calling Dan Marino bad, Dan Marino? Just because he never won a Superbowl? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
C. Jim McMahon wasn't great, but he was far from the worst of his decade, not to mention all-time. He was a pretty decent QB when you look at his stats.
I'm not saying these guys are the worst. Read the post on here by others. They're saying Grossman or Russel because of there stats. That doesn't make them the worst just like the QB's I've listed are not the worst.Peyton Manning in the post seasonMunasha
Agreed. This is why Tom Brady is better.
Also, whoever said Marino is one of the worst is a fool. I do drop him in my all time because of his ringlessness, but he is still a top 10, and for many who look past his lack of a championship, a top 5.
Its definitely Jamarcus Russel, David Carr, or Joey Harrington. CleanPlayerDavid Carr was lying on the turf too much to be a bad QB.
[QUOTE="theone86"][QUOTE="CADMAN_3"]
Ryan Leaf, hands down the worst QB. then you got players like Tim Couch, couldn't do jack with the Browns, David Carr couldn't do it for the Texans and won't come back as a starter. Regardless of his stats and if you like Rex or not he's not the worst and if you say he is then you got to add-
Dan Marino- took the dolphins to the SB once and lost.
Jim McMahon- took the Bears to the SB and won, but couldn't do anything else with the Bears, Cards or Eagles.
Ron Jaworski- couldn't do anything with the Rams, Eagles, Dolphins or Chiefs
Steve DeBerg- couldn't do it with 7 different teams.
The list goes on and on but none of these guys would be or should be considered the worst QB.
CADMAN_3
A. Decade=ten years, not twenty.
B. You're calling Dan Marino bad, Dan Marino? Just because he never won a Superbowl? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
C. Jim McMahon wasn't great, but he was far from the worst of his decade, not to mention all-time. He was a pretty decent QB when you look at his stats.
I'm not saying these guys are the worst. Read the post on here by others. They're saying Grossman or Russel because of there stats. That doesn't make them the worst just like the QB's I've listed are not the worst.Worst QB this decade, isn't that pretty self-explanitory? And if you're saying you're arguing for Marino to be the worst based on stats then man, you are way off the deep end. The guy held records for pretty much everything before Manning and Favre broke them. And again I should point out, THIS decade, that means 2000-2009.
NO NO NO, it's clear you aren't reading this correct. I'm not saying Dan is one of the worst. I'm saying if you call Rex the worst QB regardless that he went to a SB with the Bears, then you need to count those guys to. You can call Carr, McCown (both brothers), Simms (not dad) some of the worst because of how they played.
[QUOTE="Seabas989"][QUOTE="Munasha"]Peyton Manning in the post seasonMunasha
Is that a joke or do you honestly believe that when he has one ring? :|
Please look at his 2006 stats and tell me his Defense didnt win those games he had 3TD and 7INT...that post seasonSo if I'm reading you right, and correct me if I'm wrong, you think Peyton Manning is worse then all these other Qb's that everyone else mentioned before like Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, Rex Grossman, JaMarcus Russel etc.? If so, can you explain the resoning behind your pick for Peyton Manning, in the post season, as the worst Qb of the last decade?
Please look at his 2006 stats and tell me his Defense didnt win those games he had 3TD and 7INT...that post season[QUOTE="Munasha"][QUOTE="Seabas989"]
Is that a joke or do you honestly believe that when he has one ring? :|
Seabas989
So if I'm reading you right, and correct me if I'm wrong, you think Peyton Manning is worse then all these other Qb's that everyone else mentioned before like Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, Rex Grossman, JaMarcus Russel etc.? If so, can you explain the resoning behind your pick for Peyton Manning, in the post season, as the worst Qb of the last decade?
Not really i was being sarcastic...but he does loseit a little when it is playoff time[QUOTE="Seabas989"][QUOTE="Munasha"] Please look at his 2006 stats and tell me his Defense didnt win those games he had 3TD and 7INT...that post seasonMunasha
So if I'm reading you right, and correct me if I'm wrong, you think Peyton Manning is worse then all these other Qb's that everyone else mentioned before like Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, Rex Grossman, JaMarcus Russel etc.? If so, can you explain the resoning behind your pick for Peyton Manning, in the post season, as the worst Qb of the last decade?
Not really i was being sarcastic...but he does loseit a little when it is playoff timeOh okay. For a minute I thought you were serious. Kinda hard to detect sarcasm in the internet.
[QUOTE="CleanPlayer"]Its definitely Jamarcus Russel, David Carr, or Joey Harrington. monkeytoes61David Carr was lying on the turf too much to be a bad QB.His o-line did suck, but he never really put it together. He lost way too many games.
Thanks, still makes me mad everytime I think about it,Monkeytoes=best sig ever.
Id have to say Ryan Leaf. Look at his TD pass to Interception ratio.
RossRichard
Thanks, still makes me mad everytime I think about it,[QUOTE="RossRichard"]
Monkeytoes=best sig ever.
Id have to say Ryan Leaf. Look at his TD pass to Interception ratio.
monkeytoes61
Yeah Im not from washington, and was just watching the Superbowl cause nothing else was on, and I still get mad when I think about it as well. Bill Leavy was definitely paid off from someone that game.
[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]
[QUOTE="RossRichard"]
Monkeytoes=best sig ever.
Id have to say Ryan Leaf. Look at his TD pass to Interception ratio.
Thanks, still makes me mad everytime I think about it,Yeah Im not from washington, and was just watching the Superbowl cause nothing else was on, and I still get mad when I think about it as well. Bill Leavy was definitely paid off from someone that game.
The Roethlisburger TD could have gone either way, that one isn't that bad. My personal favorite was Hasselbeck's "chop block." He didn't chop block anyone, he was taking down the ball carrier! Just watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhUEHmRtU9s&feature=related[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Yeah, Rex was bad. Really bad. But I don't see how a QB who took his team to the Super Bowl can be the worst of the decade.MoonMarvelHe didnt take the Bears to the Super Bowl, his defense did. Rex had a good game against the seahwaks, and held himself in check against the Saints. He imploded against the Colts, but he did a good job for most of the playoffs.
[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="monkeytoes61"] I don't care how good your defense is, you don't get to the Super Bowl with the worst QB of the decade.monkeytoes61Look at his stats and then talk to me. Rex is a terrible QB and there is no denying that. If the Bears defense wasnt as good as it was they wouldnt have made the playoffs. It was the Bears D that got them there, not Rex. I know he was terrible, look at my first post. But, there is no way a team can get to the Super Bowl with the decade's worst QB. It doesn't matter how good your defense is. The Ravens were unstoppable even with Trent Dilfer at QB...If they can be dominant with a pretty bad QB, you can definately make it ti the Super Bowl with a horrible QB. That being said, I still think Joey Harrington is the worst QB of the decade (I don't count Couch, Leaf, and McNown because they were all drafted in the 90s). Cause he stunk ip the field wherever he went LOL
Harrington is not the worse QB of the decade...his stas have risen every year since he was drafted...and the lions arent exactly the best supporting cast :D
Harrington is not the worse QB of the decade...his stas have risen every year since he was drafted...and the lions arent exactly the best supporting cast :D
he went from gutter trash to garbage. What a major improvement :? Yeah, well there are QB's that never improved like umm...Grossman?[QUOTE="lostpariah"]he went from gutter trash to garbage. What a major improvement :?Harrington is not the worse QB of the decade...his stas have risen every year since he was drafted...and the lions arent exactly the best supporting cast :D
jg4xchamp
Naw, he was hitten everybody in the #s his first 2-3 years. He was on the team with the most dropped passes. Billy alligator arms schreoder, JermaineCrowel anyone? Once Mariuchi got a hold of him it was over. My vote is for leinhert.
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