Worst SuperBowl Champion of All-Time?

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#1 Darth_Revan_666
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The Steelers of Superbowl XL (the one against the Seahawks).

No contest in my mind about that.

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Definitely the 2005 Steelers
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The Steelers of Superbowl XL (the one against the Seahawks)

No contest in my mind about that.

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Exact thoughts when I read the title.

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Probably the 1990 Giants. They won that game with a superior gameplan, but their talent level was nowhere near the Bills'.
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The Steelers of Superbowl XL (the one against the Seahawks).

No contest in my mind about that.

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totally agree. not that the Seahawks were that great either though.
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Probably the 1990 Giants. They won that game with a superior gameplan, but their talent level was nowhere near the Bills'.monkeytoes61

Yeah that'd be my number 2. But at least they had the excuse of having their starting QB injured.

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Yeah, I gotta agree with the Steelers over the Seahawks. That was a game I didn't have a team I was rooting for until the first couple of blatently obvious calls went the Steelers way. That Super Bowl win should come with a big *.

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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Probably the 1990 Giants. They won that game with a superior gameplan, but their talent level was nowhere near the Bills'.Darth_Revan_666

Yeah that'd be my number 2. But at least they had the excuse of having their starting QB injured.

Even with Simms, I still think Buffalo would have been the clear favorite.
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Yeah, I gotta agree with the Steelers over the Seahawks. That was a game I didn't have a team I was rooting for until the first couple of blatently obvious calls went the Steelers way. That Super Bowl win should come with a big *.

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I have mostly moved on from the whole thing, with one exception. It still gets my blood boiling when Steeler fans come out and say that the game was called fairly. I could name three or fours significant plays from memory that were wrong, yet Steeler fans continue to be ignorant about the whole thing. Seattle could have won, but didn't play well enough when it mattered. But to say that the game was called accurately is wrong.
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[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Probably the 1990 Giants. They won that game with a superior gameplan, but their talent level was nowhere near the Bills'.monkeytoes61

Yeah that'd be my number 2. But at least they had the excuse of having their starting QB injured.

Even with Simms, I still think Buffalo would have been the clear favorite.

Probably. I think the Bills were only 7 point favorites even with Hostetler as the Giants QB though.

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have mostly moved on from the whole thing, with one exception. It still gets my blood boiling when Steeler fans come out and say that the game was called fairly. I could name three or fours significant plays from memory that were wrong, yet Steeler fans continue to be ignorant about the whole thing. Seattle could have won, but didn't play well enough when it mattered. But to say that the game was called accurately is wrong.monkeytoes61

I remember the ridiculous dropped passes by Jeramy Stevens (their TE). If it wasnt for him, they could've won I thought.

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#12 BuiltForSin
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For the team that was actually on the field I'd have to go with the most recent Super Bowl winning Packers.. between them and the Steelers it was a game between two weak teams that both would of qualified as the worst ever in my book.

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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]have mostly moved on from the whole thing, with one exception. It still gets my blood boiling when Steeler fans come out and say that the game was called fairly. I could name three or fours significant plays from memory that were wrong, yet Steeler fans continue to be ignorant about the whole thing. Seattle could have won, but didn't play well enough when it mattered. But to say that the game was called accurately is wrong.Darth_Revan_666

I remember the ridiculous dropped passes by Jeramy Stevens (their TE). If it wasnt for him, they could've won I thought.

Yeah, Jerramy Stevens had a career case of the dropsies. And the one big catch he had was called back by the phantom Locklear hold.
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For the team that was actually on the field I'd have to go with the most recent Super Bowl winning Packers.. between them and the Steelers it was a game between two weak teams that both would of qualified as the worst ever in my book.

BuiltForSin

Are you kidding me?

The Steelers had the best defense in the league and the Packers had the 2nd best defense. Rodgers was playing out off his mind against the Falcons and the Steelers, as he was already considered as a Top Tier QB at this point. And Roethlisberger is a good QB too with help from guys like Mendenhall, Heath Miller, Mike Wallace and Hines Ward. Same for Rodgers, with Jennings and Driver, although not as much considering he lost his star TE and good running back as Ryan Grant.

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[QUOTE="BuiltForSin"]

For the team that was actually on the field I'd have to go with the most recent Super Bowl winning Packers.. between them and the Steelers it was a game between two weak teams that both would of qualified as the worst ever in my book.

Darth_Revan_666

Are you kidding me?

The Steelers had the best defense in the league and the Packers had the 2nd best defense. Rodgers was playing out off his mind against the Falcons and the Steelers, as he was already considered as a Top Tier QB at this point. And Roethlisberger is a good QB too with help from guys like Mendenhall, Heath Miller, Mike Wallace and Hines Ward. Same for Rodgers, with Jennings and Driver, although not as much considering he lost his star TE and good running back as Ryan Grant.

They had high rankings in a down year for the league, I was left quite underwhelmed by both teams and the game itself. PLENTY of past champions would have handled both those teams in the states they played the game quite easily.

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#16 Darth_Revan_666
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[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="BuiltForSin"]

For the team that was actually on the field I'd have to go with the most recent Super Bowl winning Packers.. between them and the Steelers it was a game between two weak teams that both would of qualified as the worst ever in my book.

BuiltForSin

Are you kidding me?

The Steelers had the best defense in the league and the Packers had the 2nd best defense. Rodgers was playing out off his mind against the Falcons and the Steelers, as he was already considered as a Top Tier QB at this point. And Roethlisberger is a good QB too with help from guys like Mendenhall, Heath Miller, Mike Wallace and Hines Ward. Same for Rodgers, with Jennings and Driver, although not as much considering he lost his star TE and good running back as Ryan Grant.

They had high rankings in a down year for the league, I was left quite underwhelmed by both teams and the game itself. PLENTY of past champions would have handled both those teams in the states they played the game quite easily.

The 2005 Steelers allowed more points and scored less points than the 2010 Packers. Chew on that.

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#17 BuiltForSin
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The 2005 Steelers allowed more points and scored less points than the 2010 Packers. Chew on that.

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:lol: "Chew on that"? There's someone who isn't jumping on the your 2005 Steeler boat because they just saw a worse Steeler team play against a 10-6 Packer team just 6 years later, deal with it.

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[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]have mostly moved on from the whole thing, with one exception. It still gets my blood boiling when Steeler fans come out and say that the game was called fairly. I could name three or fours significant plays from memory that were wrong, yet Steeler fans continue to be ignorant about the whole thing. Seattle could have won, but didn't play well enough when it mattered. But to say that the game was called accurately is wrong.monkeytoes61

I remember the ridiculous dropped passes by Jeramy Stevens (their TE). If it wasnt for him, they could've won I thought.

Yeah, Jerramy Stevens had a career case of the dropsies. And the one big catch he had was called back by the phantom Locklear hold.

Yeah, when Stevens finally catches it, they call it back. That's when Madden and Michaels watched the replay and had to say it was a horrible call. I loved it because it was so bad even the announcers had to point it out. Ugh... So lame.

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[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

The 2005 Steelers allowed more points and scored less points than the 2010 Packers. Chew on that.

BuiltForSin

:lol: "Chew on that"? There's someone who isn't jumping on the your 2005 Steeler boat because they just saw a worse Steeler team play against a 10-6 Packer team just 6 years later, deal with it.

2010 Steelers: Offense: 345.3 YPG, 23.4 PPG, 43% third down Defense: 276.8 YPG, 14.5 PPG, + 17 TO 2005 Steelers: Offense: 321.3 YPG, 24.3 PPG, 35% 3rd Down Defense: 284.0, 16.1 PPG, +7 TO Worse Steeler team? Umm....no?
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The Steelers of Superbowl XL (the one against the Seahawks).

No contest in my mind about that.

Darth_Revan_666

They did win 3 on the road to get there. No analyst gave them a chance and week after week they kept rolling.

For the team that was actually on the field I'd have to go with the most recent Super Bowl winning Packers.. between them and the Steelers it was a game between two weak teams that both would of qualified as the worst ever in my book.

BuiltForSin

Like the 05 Steelers the Packers won 3 straight road playoff games including a drubbing of the top seed Falcons, they also faced elimination from week 16 of the regular season on.

In answer to the topic I don't think there is a worst team to have won the Super Bowl. They all managed to come out the sole survivor of a single elimination playoff format featuring the top teams in the league. To manage that you have to be a good team.

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They did win 3 on the road to get there. No analyst gave them a chance and week after week they kept rolling.

Second_Rook

They won against the Bengals by injuring Palmer early on. And because of Vanderjagt choking in the Colts game. And anyway, its besides the point. The better team doesnt always win. The Giants over the Patriots SuperBowl was a blatant example of it. We're not arguing they stole the Super Bowl, although you could argue they got very lucky.

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Definitely every single team except my Eagles.

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Definitely every single team except my Eagles.

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Yeah couldn't be the Eagles cuz they've never been champs.

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[QUOTE="Second_Rook"]

They did win 3 on the road to get there. No analyst gave them a chance and week after week they kept rolling.

Darth_Revan_666

They won against the Bengals by injuring Palmer early on. And because of Vanderjagt choking in the Colts game. And anyway, its besides the point. The better team doesnt always win. The Giants over the Patriots SuperBowl was a blatant example of it. We're not arguing they stole the Super Bowl, although you could argue they got very lucky.

Okay then, though I wasn't around at the time I would think that the Joe Namath Jets have to be one of the worst. I mean they had a bad quarterback who became a legend because of a sound byte. Really you will never see somebody with such atrocious career numbers in the Hall again.

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Okay then, though I wasn't around at the time I would think that the Joe Namath Jets have to be one of the worst. I mean they had a bad quarterback who became a legend because of a sound byte. Really you will never see somebody with such atrocious career numbers in the Hall again.

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Saying Joe Namath was bad is an atrocious stretch. But yeah, he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.

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[QUOTE="Second_Rook"]

They did win 3 on the road to get there. No analyst gave them a chance and week after week they kept rolling.

Darth_Revan_666

They won against the Bengals by injuring Palmer early on. And because of Vanderjagt choking in the Colts game. And anyway, its besides the point. The better team doesnt always win. The Giants over the Patriots SuperBowl was a blatant example of it. We're not arguing they stole the Super Bowl, although you could argue they got very lucky.

Yes, and I'm not sure what Rook is talking about. If I remember correctly, Pittsburgh was favored in that game.
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Saying Joe Namath was bad is an atrocious stretch. But yeah, he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.

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No really he was bad. If you look at those numbers and remove the name attached to them you would say, this guy was a bad QB, or at least he wasn't good.

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Yes, and I'm not sure what Rook is talking about. If I remember correctly, Pittsburgh was favored in that game.monkeytoes61
No, Cincinnati was a trendy pick that post season. Not to go there but as a Seahawks fan I don't think your objectivity is 100% in tact when it comes to the 2005 Steelers.
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#30 Darth_Revan_666
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[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]Saying Joe Namath was bad is an atrocious stretch. But yeah, he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.

Second_Rook


No really he was bad. If you look at those numbers and remove the name attached to them you would say, this guy was a bad QB, or at least he wasn't good.

Compare it to the stats of QBs of his era. They're decent.

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Again I don't think so, to me a guy who threw more picks than TDs in 11/13seasons and completed less than 50% of his passes in 7/13 seasons isn't good regardless of the era. Clearly we have different thoughts on this that probably won't be meeting in the middle so I'm gonna go ahead and let it go.
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Again I don't think so, to me a guy who threw more picks than TDs in 11/13seasons and completed less than 50% of his passes in 7/13 seasons isn't good regardless of the era. Clearly we have different thoughts on this that probably won't be meeting in the middle so I'm gonna go ahead and let it go. Second_Rook

Your opinion cant have any value anything if you're willing to disregard era's.

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Plenty of guys from the same "era" had far better numbers. Roman Gabriel, Len Dawson, Fran Tarkenton, Bob Griese, Bart Starr, Johnny Unitas, Roger Staubach. All of these QBs were starters at the same time as Namath and they all managed to post positive TD/TO ratios and respectable completion percentages. The only thing that your "era" argument could apply to would be passing yards and passing TDs. Are you really telling me that guys watching a game in the 60's would have their guy go 15/30 with 2 TDs and 3 ints and say "Man what a game he had today!"
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"] Yes, and I'm not sure what Rook is talking about. If I remember correctly, Pittsburgh was favored in that game.Second_Rook
No, Cincinnati was a trendy pick that post season. Not to go there but as a Seahawks fan I don't think your objectivity is 100% in tact when it comes to the 2005 Steelers.

No, Pittsburgh was favored over Seattle in the Super Bowl.
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[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

The 2005 Steelers allowed more points and scored less points than the 2010 Packers. Chew on that.

BuiltForSin

:lol: "Chew on that"? There's someone who isn't jumping on the your 2005 Steeler boat because they just saw a worse Steeler team play against a 10-6 Packer team just 6 years later, deal with it.

That suffered more injuries then any team in the league. 15 on IR!! Many Starters, yet still made it to the playoffs on the road, and won the super bowl. One of the deepest teams I've seen in a while. A guy would go down, another would step in. I'm excited to see the starters back. GB already has one of the more potent WR cores in the league, and when Rodgers gets Jermichael Finley back, oh boy...

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No, Pittsburgh was favored over Seattle in the Super Bowl. monkeytoes61
After 3 wins on the road, including a slaughter of Denver in the championship game, they probably were. I thought we were talking about the Bengals game. It still seems to me that Seatle was the favorite because I got a few people to bet on them. In this regard though I will defer to you as you had a rooting interest in the game.
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I have mostly moved on from the whole thing, with one exception. It still gets my blood boiling when Steeler fans come out and say that the game was called fairly. I could name three or fours significant plays from memory that were wrong,monkeytoes61

The booth review that went well over the 90 second limit comes to mind.

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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]I have mostly moved on from the whole thing, with one exception. It still gets my blood boiling when Steeler fans come out and say that the game was called fairly. I could name three or fours significant plays from memory that were wrong,QuistisTrepe_

The booth review that went well over the 90 second limit comes to mind.

Which play was that? The Roethlisburger rushing TD?
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Easily 2005 Steelers. Awful game, awful officiating. I am not Seattle fan and it even gets me mad, only because I know two guys who are steelers fans and god they are annoying. The way Steeler nation treats that game is an absolute farce.

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Easily 2005 Steelers. Awful game, awful officiating. I am not Seattle fan and it even gets me mad, only because I know two guys who are steelers fans and god they are annoying. The way Steeler nation treats that game is an absolute farce.

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The Steelers radio announcer said he is going to make a chapter in his book titled "Seahawks Sourgrapes." What a douche.
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#41 frostybanana
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[QUOTE="RahXephon101"]

Easily 2005 Steelers. Awful game, awful officiating. I am not Seattle fan and it even gets me mad, only because I know two guys who are steelers fans and god they are annoying. The way Steeler nation treats that game is an absolute farce.

monkeytoes61
The Steelers radio announcer said he is going to make a chapter in his book titled "Seahawks Sourgrapes." What a douche.

That's why I hate most Steeler fans.
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I'm going to have to say.... 07 Giants. That one will never heal...

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Those Giants because they won with Eli.

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Those Giants because they won with Eli.

Put_in_Kitna

They had a defense that dominated the most prolific offense of all-time. And Eli is not a bad QB at all. I'd put him in the lower end of my Top 10 QBs in the NFL.

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[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

Those Giants because they won with Eli.

Darth_Revan_666

They had a defense that dominated the most prolific offense of all-time. And Eli is not a bad QB at all. I'd put him in the lower end of my Top 10 QBs in the NFL.

Stop making excuses for the Pats.

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#46 Darth_Revan_666
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[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

Those Giants because they won with Eli.

Put_in_Kitna

They had a defense that dominated the most prolific offense of all-time. And Eli is not a bad QB at all. I'd put him in the lower end of my Top 10 QBs in the NFL.

Stop making excuses for the Pats.

Stop being a homer.

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#47 100EyedMonster
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The 2005 Superbowl was the worst since Superbowl 3.
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#48 coltsfan4ever
Member since 2006 • 2628 Posts

The Steelers of Superbowl XL (the one against the Seahawks).

No contest in my mind about that.

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Bingo. I turned that garbage before halftime.