Would Jason Campbell play better elsewhere?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=4661910

Intersting story. It does make sense that a big strong armed QB isn't fit for the current offense being played in Washington.Campbell isn't even having a terrible year.Thoughts?

Niners!!

I would have to say no.

Niners!!

shaddix55

**** no. :|

I've always thought Campbell was underrated due to playing on a bad team, his stats are usually pretty good even this year, although this is one of his worst in recent memory. I think the theory about the system is somewhat valid, although every team has to be able to pick up short yardage now and again through the air, but I also think having a good running game and defense would help him tremendously, Washington just hasn't been able to field both with him under center. I think San Fran's a good fit, I also think he could be pretty good in Miami. Could you imagine a Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams running tandem with a big play quarterback behind it? Hello fantasty numbers. Although they just drafted White so they might be a little more invested in him. I think on most other teams he'd be brought in as a backup to create competition/give insurance for older players. Cinci and Seattle might fit into the latter category, Hasselbeck is really starting to spend a lot of time on the injury list and perhaps the Bengals would like a better backup for Palmer than J.T. seeing as how the last time they fielded a good team that had a chance to make the playoffs Palmer's injury killed their season. I could also see a team like Tennessee bringing him in. They seem to like VY, but again they might want to keep another decent QB on the roster should he revert to the form he's shown at his worst or go down with an injury.

Campbell could be a good Qb. However he isn't a clutch Qb that can win the game on his shoulders. He is more of a game manager Qb then a guy you can depend on in winning a game under 2 minutes.

I always thought he had potential but all those different offensive coordinaters and coaches really stalled his development into a great, SB Qb.

From a historical standpoint? Yes.

A few of the QBs that came through DC in the past 20 years, especially in the Snyder era, have gone on to big things. Rich Gannon stopped by in 1993. Ended up as Oakland's best QB of the last two decades; Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl. Frerotte took the Lions and Broncos to the playoffs.

I dunno about Campbell. When he gets to throw the ball deep consistently, he wins games and makes throws. If the line gave him time like they did on sunday, then he'd be doing great things in D.C. Instead, the Redskins have a replacement line with a starting RB who has seen the best of his days, untested recievers, and a coach who might even be the real coach but is just there to take up space on the sideline.

All this after studying under Gibbs and now still learning under Zorn.

From a historical standpoint? Yes.

A few of the QBs that came through DC in the past 20 years, especially in the Snyder era, have gone on to big things. Rich Gannon stopped by in 1993. Ended up as Oakland's best QB of the last two decades; Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl. Frerotte took the Lions and Broncos to the playoffs.

I dunno about Campbell. When he gets to throw the ball deep consistently, he wins games and makes throws. If the line gave him time like they did on sunday, then he'd be doing great things in D.C. Instead, the Redskins have a replacement line with a starting RB who has seen the best of his days, untested recievers, and a coach who might even be the real coach but is just there to take up space on the sideline.

All this after studying under Gibbs and now still learning under Zorn.

WhoShotMe

Agreed but from all the games I watched him play, he wasn't the Qb that could handle the pressure of leading his team to victory. In other words, he is'nt a clutch Qb. However, he could have success elsewhere like you said.

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Niners!!

**** no. :|

Jason Campbell> Alex Smith and Shaun Hill. Imagine Campbell with his big arm going deep to Crabtree.monkeytoes61

**** no. :|

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Jason Campbell> Alex Smith and Shaun Hill. Imagine Campbell with his big arm going deep to Crabtree.Renegade_Fury

**** no. :|

Smith and Hill are garbage. Campbell is way better.monkeytoes61

Do I really need to get another slapping giff? Better, based on what? Shaun Hill beat him last year for one. Even if he is "better," exactly WTF is that supposed to do for us? He's a scrub and is not wanted here. Niner fans in general are in agreement that we're still watching Smith, and we have Nate Davis on the backburner. One niner fan actually suggested Campbell on the webzone, and we laughed and trolled his thread out of the water. Campbell will never suit up here... EVER.

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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"] Smith and Hill are garbage. Campbell is way better.MoonMarvel

Do I really need to get another slapping giff? Better, based on what? Shaun Hill beat him last year for one. Even if he is "better," exactly WTF is that supposed to do for us? He's a scrub and is not wanted here. Niner fans in general are in agreement that we're still watching Smith, and we have Nate Davis on the backburner. One niner fan actually suggested Campbell on the webzone, and we laughed and trolled his thread out of the water. Campbell will never suit up here... EVER.

What am I basing it off of? His QB play. When has he ever shown that he is anything special? He's a scrub. This team is already full of them, we don't need another bust. Yeah, it is a team sport. The niners have ZERO o-line, which is why we're willing to give Alex a chance. Have you seen the time Tom Brady or Payton Manning gets? It's absolutely ridiculous. The niner o-line provides at most 2 seconds. You want to know why we sat Hill? It's b/c with no o-line and lackluster playcalling he can't do anything, especially since he has no arm. Alex's arm can at least make defenses play somewhat more honestly. The franchise has already put enough money into him, and just like Campbell, he's had to deal with a new OC EVERY year. Why should we give up on him? He's only played one full year total. If he turns out to be good, it will save us wasting yet another 3 years. If he turns out to suck so be it, which is why Nate Davis will sit 2 years, and possibly a third QB since the niners have 2 first rounders this draft. Campell will do nothing for this team, and niners fans are done settling for .500ish seasons. If we're going to get a new QB, it will be someone who's actually worth the time, not some broken project from another bumbling franchise. If you love Campbell so much, then take him. You'd be lucky to have anyone with Russell back there.

http://www.nfl.com/players/jasoncampbell/profile?id=CAM375235

18th ranked QB in the league right now, and if you look at his stats he's way better than 95% of the people in this thread are giving him credit for. In fact, aside from a low touchdown count his 2008 numbers are outstanding, 62% completion, 3,200 yards, only six interceptions and on fumble lost. People are way too hard on QB's in this league, everyone expects them to be supermen even if they don't have a good supporting cast and every time anything goes wrong they get the blame. The fact is there are maybe three wlite passers in this game, a handful more with the potential to be elite, and every QB in either of those categories has the tools around him to give him a chance to get things done.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=4661910

Intersting story. It does make sense that a big strong armed QB isn't fit for the current offense being played in Washington.Campbell isn't even having a terrible year.Thoughts?

monkeytoes61

No NEVER I'm a diehard Skins fan. Jason Campbell is a BUM. His QB IQ is a JOKE!!!. I'm so sick of people saying well maybe he will get better. He has been in the NFL for 6 years now. His accuracy is TERRIBLE he over throws the deep ball all the time and leads receivers out of bounds on deep balls a lot also.

When he throws over the middle most of the time it's late and the receiver has to stop and reach behind him to make the catch. He is always to unsure of himself in the pocket.

I'm sorry but you either have it in this league or you don't. After 6 years blah blah blah new cordinator my *** he aint got it PERIOD!!!!!! Even if he improoved at all. It would only be marginily so nothing to ever make him worth a ****. He is a 2nd string ave BUM at best.

No..i dont think he will be better than what he is with the redskins

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=4661910

Intersting story. It does make sense that a big strong armed QB isn't fit for the current offense being played in Washington.Campbell isn't even having a terrible year.Thoughts?

Face_Palm09

No NEVER I'm a diehard Skins fan. Jason Campbell is a BUM. His QB IQ is a JOKE!!!. I'm so sick of people saying well maybe he will get better. He has been in the NFL for 6 years now. His accuracy is TERRIBLE he over throws the deep ball all the time and leads receivers out of bounds on deep balls a lot also.

When he throws over the middle most of the time it's late and the receiver has to stop and reach behind him to make the catch. He is always to unsure of himself in the pocket.

I'm sorry but you either have it in this league or you don't. After 6 years blah blah blah new cordinator my *** he aint got it PERIOD!!!!!! Even if he improoved at all. It would only be marginily so nothing to ever make him worth a ****. He is a 2nd string ave BUM at best.

Jason Campbell is an average QB. He's not bad, but he's not good either. Why are we even arguing?

yeah, but you said better, not great, or freancise player. cause that he is not.ocdog45

[QUOTE="ocdog45"]yeah, but you said better, not great, or freancise player. cause that he is not.theone86

I agree with you for some extent but Campbell still has issues as a Qb.

His accuracy is not consistent and he does hold on to the ball too much. He also makes stupid mistakes like throwing the ball out odf the line of scrimmage.

He also isn't a clutch Qb. If the game came down to one final drive, Campbell would choke.

yes ,better coaching,real gm.

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[QUOTE="ocdog45"]yeah, but you said better, not great, or freancise player. cause that he is not.Seabas989

I agree with you for some extent but Campbell still has issues as a Qb.

His accuracy is not consistent and he does hold on to the ball too much. He also makes stupid mistakes like throwing the ball out odf the line of scrimmage.

He also isn't a clutch Qb. If the game came down to one final drive, Campbell would choke.

I don't disagree with that. I just think it's funny when people say, "Oh, he's not a franchise guy," just because he isn't Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, but when you honestly look at the other alternatives they're better off with a decent starter than the alternative. It usually comes down to a choice between a decent QB who knows your system or an unknown QB who is going to have to come in and learn. Either way you're going to need development and either way the QB isn't going to be the answer to all your problems. My goal isn't to try and make these QBs out to be something they're not, I just think that whenever something goes wrong the trend lately is to blame the QB and I think 99% of the time it doesn't all rest on them. Could they play better? Of course, but in the end it has to be a team effort.