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I think it is very safe to say that everyone believes there is at least 1 border-line "perfect" game made by Square Enix. In my case, it would be FFVII, even though it is not my favorite. If there was one "attribute" you were forced to take out of that 'perfect' game, what would it be?

This decision is so tough, but that's the fun of it. I've come to "omit" ....the...geeze I dont know. The graphics. I'd rather the graphics be diminished to 32-bits of glory, even though FFVII was initially hyped over it being "The first 3-D Final Fantasy".

RS:MS - everything is perfect, not even kidding here.SymonDezyn

hahahaha somehow I knew this would be a popular answer...because it is a perfect game, you're right. Or at least in my eys it's the closest I've ever seen to perfect. The point of this thread though was to 'give up' something in that game to where it would still be enjoyable, yet not perfect.

[QUOTE="SymonDezyn"]RS:MS - everything is perfect, not even kidding here.MonkeyStew

hahahaha somehow I knew this would be a popular answer...because it is a perfect game, you're right. Or at least in my eys it's the closest I've ever seen to perfect. The point of this thread though was to 'give up' something in that game to where it would still be enjoyable, yet not perfect.

oh ok then, well.....

i guess i would give up the environmental quests then - the ones where you have to only kill certain kinds of elemental enemies - that got a bit tedious after awhile :)

Final Fantasy IX. I would take the soundtrack. I loved it.DrAwesomeMD

FF8 would be perfect if the graphics were a little better (although they are great for their time period and I still enjoy them, but since we want to make it perfect...)

FFX everything is pefectjohngebreadman

I agree. FFX certainly had the best tb gameplay mechanic in the franchise and the story was terrific.

[QUOTE="DrAwesomeMD"]Final Fantasy IX. I would take the soundtrack. I loved it.johngebreadman

It appealed to me. It was definetely a step up from FFVIII's awful track.

[QUOTE="johngebreadman"][QUOTE="DrAwesomeMD"]Final Fantasy IX. I would take the soundtrack. I loved it.DrAwesomeMD

It appealed to me. It was definetely a step up from FFVIII's awful track.

well now i know your not telling the truth because VIII's soundtrack was amazing and IX's was ok but not great IMO

[QUOTE="DrAwesomeMD"]

[QUOTE="johngebreadman"][QUOTE="DrAwesomeMD"]Final Fantasy IX. I would take the soundtrack. I loved it.FF-Is-Awsome

It appealed to me. It was definetely a step up from FFVIII's awful track.

well now i know your not telling the truth because VIII's soundtrack was amazing and IX's was ok but not great IMO

VIII's was awful. There's only one track I like, and that's the boss fight music.

And for IX, there's only one track I don't care for. The rest I love.

[QUOTE="johngebreadman"]FFX everything is pefectLionheart08

I agree. FFX certainly had the best tb gameplay mechanic in the franchise and the story was terrific.

Please tell me you're joking. FFX was a good game, but it's not even the best in the series, and far from perfect.

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="johngebreadman"]FFX everything is pefectDrAwesomeMD

I agree. FFX certainly had the best tb gameplay mechanic in the franchise and the story was terrific.

Please tell me you're joking. FFX was a good game, but it's not even the best in the series, and far from perfect.

Uhh, no I'm not joking. It's currently the best IMO. Isn't that the whole point of the thread? :?

FF8 would be perfect if the graphics were a little better (although they are great for their time period and I still enjoy them, but since we want to make it perfect...)

Schulzygrl

For me it was the gameplay and voiceacting...you see I didnt really care for the whole draw/junction system...it's like I can't use magic without ever having to worry about my stats goin down...can't we all just cast magic in peace. And then the voice acting..there was [none]. Call me spoiled or what have you, but with a game made in that day in age, with those excelelent graphics (for it's time and platform), you'd only expect voices to come out of their moving lips. If Metal Gear Solid did it, why couldnt FFVIII? this is all in my humble opinion.

[QUOTE="DrAwesomeMD"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="johngebreadman"]FFX everything is pefectLionheart08

I agree. FFX certainly had the best tb gameplay mechanic in the franchise and the story was terrific.

Please tell me you're joking. FFX was a good game, but it's not even the best in the series, and far from perfect.

Uhh, no I'm not joking. It's currently the best IMO. Isn't that the whole point of the thread? :?

Meh, whatever. I realized I don't care enough for FFX to argue about it soooooo... yeah. :S

FFX everything is pefectjohngebreadman

:lol: indeed

i'd say SO4, the gameplay/battle system :)

[QUOTE="DrAwesomeMD"]Final Fantasy IX. I would take the soundtrack. I loved it.johngebreadman

I could say the same thing but apply it to FFX you know >_>

[QUOTE="johngebreadman"][QUOTE="DrAwesomeMD"]Final Fantasy IX. I would take the soundtrack. I loved it.Lady_Bahamut

I could say the same thing but apply it to FFX you know >_>

I really did like X's soundtrack, but IX (barely) tops it for me. Loss of Me, Melodies of Life, Kuja's Theme, You Are Not Alone, and The Place I'll Return To Someday are just a few of my favorites.

No game is perfect. Because if it was then it would be the end of the world and developers wouldn't be making any more games...blah...blah.

But if any SE game comes close to the so-called "perfection" I know the popular opinion is going to be FFVII, BUT I am going to go with either FFVI or Chrono Trigger. More of FFVI though. Mainly because I felt FFVI was the ultimate fantasy of a 2D JRPG gamer. It combined not only the traditions and the staples of the series from it's medievial games like FFIV,but it also implemented the sci-fi part (which would be seen in FFVII,FFVIII and FFX in the future) really well.

The gameplay was really balanced and the characters were endearing. In my opinion,that is ALL a JRPG gamer could wish for.Oh and I forgot to mention about the awesome musical score. One of Uematsu's finest works. :D

No game is perfect. Because if it was then it would be the end of the world and developers wouldn't be making any more games...blah...blah.

But if any SE game comes close to the so-called "perfection" I know the popular opinion is going to be FFVII, BUT I am going to go with either FFVI or Chrono Trigger. More of FFVI though. Mainly because I felt FFVI was the ultimate fantasy of a 2D JRPG gamer. It combined not only the traditions and the staples of the series from it's medievial games like FFIV,but it also implemented the sci-fi part (which would be seen in FFVII,FFVIII and FFX in the future) really well.

The gameplay was really balanced and the characters were endearing. In my opinion,that is ALL a JRPG gamer could wish for.Oh and I forgot to mention about the awesome musical score. One of Uematsu's finest works. :D

lightwarrior179

you see that's the stuff I like to hear. Not countless bickerings over which game is stupid and genius to another..ahem*, not pointing fingers. We all have our opinions and although we may not particularly like a certain game, it doesnt mean we can trash it, because it may be another person's 'savior', and especially if there's no "umph" behind the complaint.Yah, either way.

I never played VI but I'm glad to hear good things about it. The only other thing a JRPG gamer could wish for other than endearing characters and balanced gameplay is a solid, intricate, heart-felt story to serve as the game's foundation.

No game is perfect. Because if it was then it would be the end of the world and developers wouldn't be making any more games...blah...blah.

But if any SE game comes close to the so-called "perfection" I know the popular opinion is going to be FFVII, BUT I am going to go with either FFVI or Chrono Trigger. More of FFVI though. Mainly because I felt FFVI was the ultimate fantasy of a 2D JRPG gamer. It combined not only the traditions and the staples of the series from it's medievial games like FFIV,but it also implemented the sci-fi part (which would be seen in FFVII,FFVIII and FFX in the future) really well.

The gameplay was really balanced and the characters were endearing. In my opinion,that is ALL a JRPG gamer could wish for.Oh and I forgot to mention about the awesome musical score. One of Uematsu's finest works. :D

lightwarrior179

From the way to describe this game I think I will have to play it.

[QUOTE="lightwarrior179"]

No game is perfect. Because if it was then it would be the end of the world and developers wouldn't be making any more games...blah...blah.

But if any SE game comes close to the so-called "perfection" I know the popular opinion is going to be FFVII, BUT I am going to go with either FFVI or Chrono Trigger. More of FFVI though. Mainly because I felt FFVI was the ultimate fantasy of a 2D JRPG gamer. It combined not only the traditions and the staples of the series from it's medievial games like FFIV,but it also implemented the sci-fi part (which would be seen in FFVII,FFVIII and FFX in the future) really well.

The gameplay was really balanced and the characters were endearing. In my opinion,that is ALL a JRPG gamer could wish for.Oh and I forgot to mention about the awesome musical score. One of Uematsu's finest works. :D

Schulzygrl

From the way to describe this game I think I will have to play it.

Hehe,my description about FFVI is true and honest. :)

[QUOTE="Schulzygrl"][QUOTE="lightwarrior179"]

No game is perfect. Because if it was then it would be the end of the world and developers wouldn't be making any more games...blah...blah.

But if any SE game comes close to the so-called "perfection" I know the popular opinion is going to be FFVII, BUT I am going to go with either FFVI or Chrono Trigger. More of FFVI though. Mainly because I felt FFVI was the ultimate fantasy of a 2D JRPG gamer. It combined not only the traditions and the staples of the series from it's medievial games like FFIV,but it also implemented the sci-fi part (which would be seen in FFVII,FFVIII and FFX in the future) really well.

The gameplay was really balanced and the characters were endearing. In my opinion,that is ALL a JRPG gamer could wish for.Oh and I forgot to mention about the awesome musical score. One of Uematsu's finest works. :D

lightwarrior179

From the way to describe this game I think I will have to play it.

Hehe,my description about FFVI is true and honest. :)

Well then i guess I have to start as soon as I beat FFVIII!

[QUOTE="lightwarrior179"][QUOTE="Schulzygrl"][QUOTE="lightwarrior179"]

No game is perfect. Because if it was then it would be the end of the world and developers wouldn't be making any more games...blah...blah.

But if any SE game comes close to the so-called "perfection" I know the popular opinion is going to be FFVII, BUT I am going to go with either FFVI or Chrono Trigger. More of FFVI though. Mainly because I felt FFVI was the ultimate fantasy of a 2D JRPG gamer. It combined not only the traditions and the staples of the series from it's medievial games like FFIV,but it also implemented the sci-fi part (which would be seen in FFVII,FFVIII and FFX in the future) really well.

The gameplay was really balanced and the characters were endearing. In my opinion,that is ALL a JRPG gamer could wish for.Oh and I forgot to mention about the awesome musical score. One of Uematsu's finest works. :D

Schulzygrl

From the way to describe this game I think I will have to play it.

Hehe,my description about FFVI is true and honest. :)

Well then i guess I have to start as soon as I beat FFVIII!

I actually began playing FFVIII just a few days ago and it is my first time as well. I think FFVIII is a fantastic game and if you liked it then you will like FFVI because the setting of FFVIII is something like a combination of FFVI and FFVII.

[QUOTE="Schulzygrl"][QUOTE="lightwarrior179"][QUOTE="Schulzygrl"][QUOTE="lightwarrior179"]

No game is perfect. Because if it was then it would be the end of the world and developers wouldn't be making any more games...blah...blah.

But if any SE game comes close to the so-called "perfection" I know the popular opinion is going to be FFVII, BUT I am going to go with either FFVI or Chrono Trigger. More of FFVI though. Mainly because I felt FFVI was the ultimate fantasy of a 2D JRPG gamer. It combined not only the traditions and the staples of the series from it's medievial games like FFIV,but it also implemented the sci-fi part (which would be seen in FFVII,FFVIII and FFX in the future) really well.

The gameplay was really balanced and the characters were endearing. In my opinion,that is ALL a JRPG gamer could wish for.Oh and I forgot to mention about the awesome musical score. One of Uematsu's finest works. :D

lightwarrior179

From the way to describe this game I think I will have to play it.

Hehe,my description about FFVI is true and honest. :)

Well then i guess I have to start as soon as I beat FFVIII!

I actually began playing FFVIII just a few days ago and it is my first time as well. I think FFVIII is a fantastic game and if you liked it then you will like FFVI because the setting of FFVIII is something like a combination of FFVI and FFVII.

I personally couldn't stand FFVIII, but I'm not going to ruin it for you. If anything, I'm going to give you praise for finding anything good about it. :P

[QUOTE="lightwarrior179"][QUOTE="Schulzygrl"][QUOTE="lightwarrior179"][QUOTE="Schulzygrl"][QUOTE="lightwarrior179"]

No game is perfect. Because if it was then it would be the end of the world and developers wouldn't be making any more games...blah...blah.

But if any SE game comes close to the so-called "perfection" I know the popular opinion is going to be FFVII, BUT I am going to go with either FFVI or Chrono Trigger. More of FFVI though. Mainly because I felt FFVI was the ultimate fantasy of a 2D JRPG gamer. It combined not only the traditions and the staples of the series from it's medievial games like FFIV,but it also implemented the sci-fi part (which would be seen in FFVII,FFVIII and FFX in the future) really well.

The gameplay was really balanced and the characters were endearing. In my opinion,that is ALL a JRPG gamer could wish for.Oh and I forgot to mention about the awesome musical score. One of Uematsu's finest works. :D

DrAwesomeMD

From the way to describe this game I think I will have to play it.

Hehe,my description about FFVI is true and honest. :)

Well then i guess I have to start as soon as I beat FFVIII!

I actually began playing FFVIII just a few days ago and it is my first time as well. I think FFVIII is a fantastic game and if you liked it then you will like FFVI because the setting of FFVIII is something like a combination of FFVI and FFVII.

I personally couldn't stand FFVIII, but I'm not going to ruin it for you. If anything, I'm going to give you praise for finding anything good about it. :P

Actually I have completed the entire Disc One of FFVIII and so far EVERYTHING is fantastic about it. It's even better than FFVII and FFVI in some aspects,IMO. You need to replay it,dude.

[QUOTE="DrAwesomeMD"][QUOTE="lightwarrior179"][QUOTE="Schulzygrl"][QUOTE="lightwarrior179"][QUOTE="Schulzygrl"][QUOTE="lightwarrior179"]

No game is perfect. Because if it was then it would be the end of the world and developers wouldn't be making any more games...blah...blah.

But if any SE game comes close to the so-called "perfection" I know the popular opinion is going to be FFVII, BUT I am going to go with either FFVI or Chrono Trigger. More of FFVI though. Mainly because I felt FFVI was the ultimate fantasy of a 2D JRPG gamer. It combined not only the traditions and the staples of the series from it's medievial games like FFIV,but it also implemented the sci-fi part (which would be seen in FFVII,FFVIII and FFX in the future) really well.

The gameplay was really balanced and the characters were endearing. In my opinion,that is ALL a JRPG gamer could wish for.Oh and I forgot to mention about the awesome musical score. One of Uematsu's finest works. :D

lightwarrior179

From the way to describe this game I think I will have to play it.

Hehe,my description about FFVI is true and honest. :)

Well then i guess I have to start as soon as I beat FFVIII!

I actually began playing FFVIII just a few days ago and it is my first time as well. I think FFVIII is a fantastic game and if you liked it then you will like FFVI because the setting of FFVIII is something like a combination of FFVI and FFVII.

I personally couldn't stand FFVIII, but I'm not going to ruin it for you. If anything, I'm going to give you praise for finding anything good about it. :P

Actually I have completed the entire Disc One of FFVIII and so far EVERYTHING is fantastic about it. It's even better than FFVII and FFVI in some aspects,IMO. You need to replay it,dude.

I replayed it over the summer. I still hated it, but I hated it a little less.

But, to each his own. :)

[QUOTE="lightwarrior179"][QUOTE="DrAwesomeMD"][QUOTE="lightwarrior179"][QUOTE="Schulzygrl"][QUOTE="lightwarrior179"][QUOTE="Schulzygrl"][QUOTE="lightwarrior179"]

No game is perfect. Because if it was then it would be the end of the world and developers wouldn't be making any more games...blah...blah.

But if any SE game comes close to the so-called "perfection" I know the popular opinion is going to be FFVII, BUT I am going to go with either FFVI or Chrono Trigger. More of FFVI though. Mainly because I felt FFVI was the ultimate fantasy of a 2D JRPG gamer. It combined not only the traditions and the staples of the series from it's medievial games like FFIV,but it also implemented the sci-fi part (which would be seen in FFVII,FFVIII and FFX in the future) really well.

The gameplay was really balanced and the characters were endearing. In my opinion,that is ALL a JRPG gamer could wish for.Oh and I forgot to mention about the awesome musical score. One of Uematsu's finest works. :D

DrAwesomeMD

From the way to describe this game I think I will have to play it.

Hehe,my description about FFVI is true and honest. :)

Well then i guess I have to start as soon as I beat FFVIII!

I actually began playing FFVIII just a few days ago and it is my first time as well. I think FFVIII is a fantastic game and if you liked it then you will like FFVI because the setting of FFVIII is something like a combination of FFVI and FFVII.

I personally couldn't stand FFVIII, but I'm not going to ruin it for you. If anything, I'm going to give you praise for finding anything good about it. :P

Actually I have completed the entire Disc One of FFVIII and so far EVERYTHING is fantastic about it. It's even better than FFVII and FFVI in some aspects,IMO. You need to replay it,dude.

I replayed it over the summer. I still hated it, but I hated it a little less.

But, to each his own. :)

Right now I'm on the last disc and before I go into the final temple (whatever you wanna call it) i'm training my characters....and i agree i love everything about it. we will see what the end is like