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"So far, aside from the different visual approaches, there's not much to tell the two games apart. But the one difference I couldn't help but notice was the sense that as well as possessing a higher resolution, the Xbox 360 version of GTA IV runs noticeably smoother than the PlayStation 3 code."

"The bottom line is that no matter what material I put through the detector, 360 came ahead in all tests, sometimes dramatically so."

"Truth be told, it's not really the visual differences as such that gravitates me slightly towards the 360 version; it's just that the game runs more solidly on the Microsoft platform, and when the frame-rate does drop, it's not quite so jarring as it is on PS3."

"On the one hand, it's a touch disappointing that Rockstar's USD 100 million budget couldn't extend to optimising the experience to match Xbox 360, especially when you look at a game like Burnout Paradise that doesn't require a mandatory installation, has a basically rock solid frame-rate, and is technically identical cross-platform."

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Glad i went with the 360 version. Ive been able to play the past week without problems online or random freezes, plus i have DLC to look forward to towards this holiday.

GazzaB

Gee, I wonder why people are quoting those parts and ignoring these?

"That said, it's patently clear that Rockstar hasn't handed in a lazy conversion here. Creative decisions have been made to compensate for the technical limitations, and by and large they really work, to the point where you sometimes wonder why they couldn't have been applied to the Xbox 360 version too. PS3 GTA IV looks absolutely fantastic, and even factoring in zero anti-aliasing support and a lower resolution, in many scenarios it looks as good as the 360 version, if not better."

and

"I think the most important thing to say right from the get-go is that there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that Grand Theft Auto IV is a 10/10 game no matter which console you own. Having spent the last six days of my life playing both versions simultaneously, painstakingly matching up the gameplay and recording over 500GB of video captures in the process, everything in Tom's original review stands regardless of the platform you're playing it on. As one leading developer said to me the other day, "I think this game, like Crackdown before it, changes everything." Quite.

Yes there are some significant differences between the two games which we'll be going into in more depth later on in the feature, but it's important not to lose focus of the most important issue - that this release is an astonishing achievement. Content is king here, and until the extent of the Microsoft-exclusive DLC becomes apparent, the two games serve up an equally superb range of entertainment."

So what does everyone speculate the DLC could be?

My guess is Staten Island. I mean how can you have a fake NYC without it's fictitious fifth borough?

L1qu1dSword

My ninja monkeys have just returned and have the scoop. They say that the first DLC pack for the 360 will add hours of playtime to the game. It will be a single mission entitled "Paint it Black". You will be issued a paint-gun and will have to paint every door (internal as well as external) in Liberty City.

They also say there is a multi-plat add-on in the works that includes a portable catapult that can be used to strike pedestrians with objects from many blocks away. "What objects?", you may ask. Well, you will have to scavenge for your ammo from dumpsters (dirty diapers) and from bio-hazard bins outside of plastic surgery clinics.

Now I realise some of you may not believe this, but my ninja monkeys were also the ones that broke the huge news that Spore is actually a pack of Sea Monkeys (no relation) and all the videos we've seen are just demonstrations of what can be achieved through persistence and a billion years.

Yea...to the average person not caring, they look identical. Even to me after playing both they look identical, but there are occasions where i think the PS3 version makes things a lil too blurry. That's where the lower res & no AA come in. I even saw a comparison pic the other day, shot in the park, where the X360 version actually has patches of grass & the PS3 version had none. Then i looked @ the shadows from the surrounding trees and the PS3 version looked like spotted 'blob' patches as shadows, where as the X360 version were more refined & detailed.

Doesn't matter either way, the game is awesome and no one is going to stop playing to nitpick on these differences. The only time you hear of stuff like this is on forums & actually take the time to break down screen shots. :|

I've played 5 hours and completed 20% of GTA4. So is it weird that I think Assassins Creed is a much better open world game, and a better game overall?

. So is it weird that I think Assassins Creed is a much better open world game, and a better game overall?

whocares4peace

Yes

You can't buy property in this GTA? :( What do I do with all my money? Is their any use for it besides clothing?Eddie-Vedder

Anyone? =o

I've played 5 hours and completed 20% of GTA4. So is it weird that I think Assassins Creed is a much better open world game, and a better game overall?

whocares4peace

That's one far out opinion you got there fella :o

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

I've played 5 hours and completed 20% of GTA4. So is it weird that I think Assassins Creed is a much better open world game, and a better game overall?

speedsix

That's one far out opinion you got there fella :o

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

I've played 5 hours and completed 20% of GTA4. So is it weird that I think Assassins Creed is a much better open world game, and a better game overall?

speedsix

That's one far out opinion you got there fella :o

yes...it is weird

assassins creed sucked, imo. most disappointing game of 07 by far

nice I just got the one man army achievement it wasent that easy but here is a tip once you reach about 4 stars head for the subway and then go down to the train tracks the cops will follow you down the subway but when youre far enough down the tracks you can have a good area for shooting without being hit by bullets then when you get to six stars just walk vcery far down the subway tunnel and stay in the middle watch out for the train and wait five minutes and youll get the achievementParadiddleFill

theres a far far far easier and MUCH faster way to get it. i got the achievement on my first try without even coming close to dieing

on the second island (thats the smallest one), get a very fast car. go to one of the police road blocks (this has to be done before you unlock the other islands...or you could just reload an old save). turn the car around and back up. as soon as the police start shooting, you'll get a six star wanted level. JET IT

go to this open area found on the middle of the island (id post a pic if i could find one, but alas. i cant). you'll know if you're in the right spot because you'll see free body armor laying on the ground next to a shipping crate. quickly lodge youself between the tiny little gap between the crate and the wall on the right side of the armor. switch to your shotgun

from there its just a simple matter of blasting any cops that come near you. to reload, switch to another weapon and then switch back to the shotgun. dont waste time actually reloading.

the police wont be smart enough to shoot you from behind, and the helicopters wont be able to hit you because of the way you're lodged between the metal crate and the wall

you should easily survive five minutes, and then voila. Enjoy your 40 achievement points

Thanks for the heads up on that achievement. I'll have to grab it next go round since i autosaved overwriting saves. Anyways, another achievement that is getting me mad is the helicopter one where you have to fly under each bridge that over water. I got 12 & can't find the 13th. I keep looking @ the map in the game & online and still can't see the one im missing? I got the 2 lil ones which are like overpasses on the last island which gave me 11 & 12....but now im @ loss :?

P.S. Sorry if this needed a *spoiler* tag and if need be use it if you're nice enough to respond. TIA

Thanks for the heads up on that achievement. I'll have to grab it next go round since i autosaved overwriting saves. Anyways, another achievement that is getting me mad is the helicopter one where you have to fly under each bridge that over water. I got 12 & can't find the 13th. I keep looking @ the map in the game & online and still can't see the one im missing? I got the 2 lil ones which are like overpasses on the last island which gave me 11 & 12....but now im @ loss :?

P.S. Sorry if this needed a *spoiler* tag and if need be use it if you're nice enough to respond. TIA

E M I N 3 M

None of the achievements for GTA IV are hidden initially so I don't think you'll get modded for this.

You gonna go back & play again or go kill all them pigeons? :lol: Im definately playing again to do things differently....I did a lot of stuff but there's some things i neglected just to keep the story going. It draws you in and you have/want to know what will happen next! E M I N 3 M

Could anyone tell me if money is ever ends up being important? Buy property? =|Eddie-Vedder

Could anyone tell me if money is ever ends up being important? Buy property? =|Eddie-Vedder

not really... unless you're out of weapons..

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]nice I just got the one man army achievement it wasent that easy but here is a tip once you reach about 4 stars head for the subway and then go down to the train tracks the cops will follow you down the subway but when youre far enough down the tracks you can have a good area for shooting without being hit by bullets then when you get to six stars just walk vcery far down the subway tunnel and stay in the middle watch out for the train and wait five minutes and youll get the achievementREforever101

theres a far far far easier and MUCH faster way to get it. i got the achievement on my first try without even coming close to dieing

on the second island (thats the smallest one), get a very fast car. go to one of the police road blocks (this has to be done before you unlock the other islands...or you could just reload an old save). turn the car around and back up. as soon as the police start shooting, you'll get a six star wanted level. JET IT

go to this open area found on the middle of the island (id post a pic if i could find one, but alas. i cant). you'll know if you're in the right spot because you'll see free body armor laying on the ground next to a shipping crate. quickly lodge youself between the tiny little gap between the crate and the wall on the right side of the armor. switch to your shotgun

from there its just a simple matter of blasting any cops that come near you. to reload, switch to another weapon and then switch back to the shotgun. dont waste time actually reloading.

the police wont be smart enough to shoot you from behind, and the helicopters wont be able to hit you because of the way you're lodged between the metal crate and the wall

you should easily survive five minutes, and then voila. Enjoy your 40 achievement points

Oh which one was the One Man Army achievement? Was it the staying alive for 5 mins in a 6-star wanted level? If so, i did it an easier way, all i had to do is cross borders (that im not aloud to go to yet) and get the 6-star wanted level, go the helitoor in castle gardens and just fly around liberty city for 5 mins. And yes, the police helicopters didnt find me :P. I already have alot of achievements! w00t

Oh yeah i also love this thing (not sure if its a spoiler so ill just write it as a spoiler)

[spoiler] So when you get a new apartment from Roman since he got alot of money from gambling, you live near a clothing store in algonquin which is awesome. Another awesome thing which is really AWESOME is that the clothing store is near a Ferrari CarShow! Yes, its wicked. what i did is go inside break a ferrari's window drive out breaking the buildings window and bring it to my parking lot! best thing ever. [/spoiler]

EDIT: sorry for double post

Oh yeah i also love this thing (not sure if its a spoiler so ill just write it as a spoiler)

EDIT: sorry for double post

ChiddaPotta

Finished the game...!!!

what to do now'/

?!!!

I noticed that every single thread besides this one that has anything to do with GTAIV gets locked. Seems a bit silly. You can have different topics on a game, and who is going to read all of a 368 page thread?

Finished the game...!!!

what to do now'/

?!!!

Bloodseeker23

Wait for MGS4 and Ninja Gaiden II next month

Anyone know how to get strikes while bowling? I always have one pin standing.. it's the best I can do. I need to roll 3 in a row for an achievement.xsubtownerx

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Anyone know how to get strikes while bowling? I always have one pin standing.. it's the best I can do. I need to roll 3 in a row for an achievement.Dante2710

Heheh.. thanks.

PS: Kill a Dev in multiplayer is the hardest one I think.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Anyone know how to get strikes while bowling? I always have one pin standing.. it's the best I can do. I need to roll 3 in a row for an achievement.xsubtownerx

Heheh.. thanks.

PS: Kill a Dev in multiplayer is the hardest one I think.

Finished the game...!!!

what to do now'/

?!!!

Bloodseeker23

Go back to Brawl until MGS4 and NGII. Maybe some Mario Kart Wii?

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Anyone know how to get strikes while bowling? I always have one pin standing.. it's the best I can do. I need to roll 3 in a row for an achievement.Dante2710

Heheh.. thanks.

PS: Kill a Dev in multiplayer is the hardest one I think.

what do you mean? yes it is... lots of people have unlocked it already...zero9167

Anyone know how to get strikes while bowling? I always have one pin standing.. it's the best I can do. I need to roll 3 in a row for an achievement.xsubtownerx

Few things.

1. I am still on the first island. I feel like I've played 1000 missions. I'm loving everyone and I thought I was going quickly through them... now I read people have finished the game? WTF?

2. If I stop helping out Roman, will I lose his benefits that you get when you're his friend? Not that I care if I do since they're uselss, just wondering.

3. Why do Niko and Brucie keep talking about Brucie's... uh... below the waist area?

4. Genetically superior. :lol: I also laughed when Brucie [spoiler] smashed his head across the wall and started bleeding... maniac [/spoiler] .

Few things.

1. I am still on the first island. I feel like I've played 1000 missions. I'm loving everyone and I thought I was going quickly through them... now I read people have finished the game? WTF?

2. If I stop helping out Roman, will I lose his benefits that you get when you're his friend? Not that I care if I do since they're uselss, just wondering.

3. Why do Niko and Brucie keep talking about Brucie's... uh... below the waist area?

4. Genetically superior. :lol: I also laughed when Brucie

the-very-best

you can make up with Roman. just relax and play the game, enjoy. no nned to speedrun this gem

This may have been posted but I just noticed this article:

http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=1124

Do you think this guy has a point or is he full of BS? I think maybe he has unrealistic expectations.

This may have been posted but I just noticed this article:

http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=1124

Do you think this guy has a point or is he full of BS? I think maybe he has unrealistic expectations.

tubbyc

partialy. a great game is a great game... even if it's more of what we've allready seen. we even WANT that.. and we also want innovation.. i like both.. gta4 isn't perfect, but it's one of the best developped games ever made imo.. it deserves a 10.. but now they need to come up with really new stuff..

^^^^ i put around 50 hours and i only completed like 80% of the game......im gonna go back and get 100..im sure i`ll end up putting over 100 hours into this game

and yes, you do lose whateverroman has to offer u if it goes below 80 if i remember correctly

and brucie is awesome....followed by jacob and roman :P

^^^^ i put around 50 hours and i only completed like 80% of the game......im gonna go back and get 100..im sure i`ll end up putting over 100 hours into this game

and yes, you do lose whateverroman has to offer u if it goes below 80 if i remember correctly

and brucie is awesome....followed by jacob and roman :P

Dante2710

good luck with the pigeons.....:P

This may have been posted but I just noticed this article:

http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=1124

Do you think this guy has a point or is he full of BS? I think maybe he has unrealistic expectations.

tubbyc

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]

^^^^ i put around 50 hours and i only completed like 80% of the game......im gonna go back and get 100..im sure i`ll end up putting over 100 hours into this game

and yes, you do lose whateverroman has to offer u if it goes below 80 if i remember correctly

and brucie is awesome....followed by jacob and roman :P

Always-Honest

good luck with the pigeons.....:P

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="Dante2710"]

^^^^ i put around 50 hours and i only completed like 80% of the game......im gonna go back and get 100..im sure i`ll end up putting over 100 hours into this game

and yes, you do lose whateverroman has to offer u if it goes below 80 if i remember correctly

and brucie is awesome....followed by jacob and roman :P

Dante2710

good luck with the pigeons.....:P

well, there are video's where to find them i think... but i'm not gonna look for them.. i just want to get the most out of the story and the missions.. and besides... i have the pas3 version.. no achievements (not that i hunt those anyway... asside from the Crackdown achievements.. those were great)

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="Dante2710"]

^^^^ i put around 50 hours and i only completed like 80% of the game......im gonna go back and get 100..im sure i`ll end up putting over 100 hours into this game

and yes, you do lose whateverroman has to offer u if it goes below 80 if i remember correctly

and brucie is awesome....followed by jacob and roman :P

Always-Honest

good luck with the pigeons.....:P

well, there are video's where to find them i think... but i'm not gonna look for them.. i just want to get the most out of the story and the missions.. and besides... i have the pas3 version.. no achievements (not that i hunt those anyway... asside from the Crackdown achievements.. those were great)

kate:[spoiler] can i kill her?.. she won't put out [/spoiler] Always-Honest

For serious, man. WTF does she want from me?

she never puts out....so dont even botherDante2710

oh.... well.. i did bone this internet chick, but it's so boring.. i'm going for some hookers next time.. if i can find them...

i'm still gonna try though.. who knows... would be fun..

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]she never puts out....so dont even botherAlways-Honest

oh.... well.. i did bone this internet chick, but it's so boring.. i'm going for some hookers next time.. if i can find them...

i'm still gonna try though.. who knows... would be fun..

she wont put out >__> she is the "no sex till marriage kind of girl" :PDante2710

[QUOTE="Dante2710"] she wont put out >__> she is the "no sex till marriage kind of girl" :PJandurin