10 Reasons Why Killzone 2 Wins

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Best. Storyline. Period.

1. Killzone invented grainy picture in gaming FPS (you saw this kind of picture in the movie 300)

2. Motion Blurr (Used when you sprint...when combined with great graphics and grainy picture makes you drool)

3. 20 Milllion Dollar Budget (Largest for any game ever made)

4. 120 People working on it (Record Breaker and Sony hired some new guns to work on the sequel)

5. Storyline - Nazi's in space? I'm sorry how does that ever go wrong? George Lucas could write the dialogue and add a love story with gungans and ppl would praise it.

6. Weapons - Some of the best weapon designs ever put in a game. They have a very real feeling to there repective sides.

7. Dialogue - No Black Sarge here yelling damn....just a whole lotta gritty F bombs left and right with an almost tarantino wittiness to them. EX. 'Rico' "What F**Ks a shakespear?"(real line in Killzone 1)

8. 50 GiG potential

9. More Physics, More Enemies, More Explosions, More Everything.....

10. I said so! MOOOOOO!!!

I think the sequel is going to surprise a lot of people.

I'm confident Sony know what they're doing. I don't expect it to be the next Halo or something but I do expect it to be a solid FPS, better than Resistance, not as good as Halo. 

I think the sequel is going to surprise a lot of people.

I'm confident Sony know what they're doing. I don't expect it to be the next Halo or something but I do expect it to be a solid FPS, better than Resistance, not as good as Halo. 

the-very-best

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I think the sequel is going to surprise a lot of people.

I'm confident Sony know what they're doing. I don't expect it to be the next Halo or something but I do expect it to be a solid FPS, better than Resistance, not as good as Halo.

NextGenNow

I don't get KZ hate at all. It had some flaws but it was a great game. Tasman_basic

I disagree. Killzone was a rubbish game;: but when playing it, I did feel that the game did have the potential to be very good. It was ruined by poor AI, horrendous repetitive dialogue, poor character design (imo), etc. You can only call it a great game if you haven't played any other FPS

1 Reason why it hasn't won: 1. No real-time footage yet.fuzzysquash

    For a game following up a 6.9, its got to prove itself. Flat-out, I won't allow anything besides the actual game to sway me, since the game has far from proved anything.

    A big budget and many people working on it mean nothing. Peter Jackson's King Kong, anyone?

    To TC, I would wait until the game is out before you proclaim its won anything. I would say it has less chance topping R:FOM than it does Halo 3 ATM.

[QUOTE="Tasman_basic"]I don't get KZ hate at all. It had some flaws but it was a great game. Mass_Effect

I disagree. Killzone was a rubbish game;: but when playing it, I did feel that the game did have the potential to be very good. It was ruined by poor AI, horrendous repetitive dialogue, poor character design (imo), etc. You can only call it a great game if you haven't played any other FPS

[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]

[QUOTE="Tasman_basic"]I don't get KZ hate at all. It had some flaws but it was a great game. jonesy1911

I disagree. Killzone was a rubbish game;: but when playing it, I did feel that the game did have the potential to be very good. It was ruined by poor AI, horrendous repetitive dialogue, poor character design (imo), etc. You can only call it a great game if you haven't played any other FPS

    He didn't mention Halo in his post. 

3. 20 Milllion Dollar Budget (Largest for any game ever made)NextGenNow

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I think the sequel is going to surprise a lot of people.

I'm confident Sony know what they're doing. I don't expect it to be the next Halo or something but I do expect it to be a solid FPS, better than Resistance, not as good as Halo.

Tasman_basic

Let me point something out - it may be obvious - but the TC doesn't seem to have realized it yet. When you have something that you are 100% confident in, you show it. Apple showed the world the iPhone, Bungie has showed *alpha* builds of Halo 3, there are videos of Mass Effect (in engine), and there is footage of Bioshock.

All we've seen of Killzone 2 has basically been "well we're showing you the hardware's potentilal." Great. That's what I love to hear. It's marketing BS for "this is CGI, you're never going to see anything like this - the game will play like it was written by a hollywood director who thinks talking about how he played Pac-Man back in the day makes him a gamer".

That's really what they're saying to us. Killzone 2 - I wouldn't bet your sytsem on it. If it's good, well, I'll be impressed - but throwing money at something never improves the situation... Matrix Reloaded, King Kong, Star Wars Episodes 1, 2, and 3, Snakes on a Plane...

Let me point something out - it may be obvious - but the TC doesn't seem to have realized it yet. When you have something that you are 100% confident in, you show it. Apple showed the world the iPhone, Bungie has showed *alpha* builds of Halo 3, there are videos of Mass Effect (in engine), and there is footage of Bioshock.

All we've seen of Killzone 2 has basically been "well we're showing you the hardware's potentilal." Great. That's what I love to hear. It's marketing BS for "this is CGI, you're never going to see anything like this - the game will play like it was written by a hollywood director who thinks talking about how he played Pac-Man back in the day makes him a gamer".

 

That's really what they're saying to us. Killzone 2 - I wouldn't bet your sytsem on it. If it's good, well, I'll be impressed - but throwing money at something never improves the situation... Matrix Reloaded, King Kong, Star Wars Episodes 1, 2, and 3, Snakes on a Plane...

subrosian

[QUOTE="jonesy1911"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]

[QUOTE="Tasman_basic"]I don't get KZ hate at all. It had some flaws but it was a great game. SpruceCaboose

I disagree. Killzone was a rubbish game;: but when playing it, I did feel that the game did have the potential to be very good. It was ruined by poor AI, horrendous repetitive dialogue, poor character design (imo), etc. You can only call it a great game if you haven't played any other FPS

He didn't mention Halo in his post.

[QUOTE="Tasman_basic"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I think the sequel is going to surprise a lot of people.

I'm confident Sony know what they're doing. I don't expect it to be the next Halo or something but I do expect it to be a solid FPS, better than Resistance, not as good as Halo.

NextGenNow

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

Let me point something out - it may be obvious - but the TC doesn't seem to have realized it yet. When you have something that you are 100% confident in, you show it. Apple showed the world the iPhone, Bungie has showed *alpha* builds of Halo 3, there are videos of Mass Effect (in engine), and there is footage of Bioshock.

All we've seen of Killzone 2 has basically been "well we're showing you the hardware's potentilal." Great. That's what I love to hear. It's marketing BS for "this is CGI, you're never going to see anything like this - the game will play like it was written by a hollywood director who thinks talking about how he played Pac-Man back in the day makes him a gamer".

That's really what they're saying to us. Killzone 2 - I wouldn't bet your sytsem on it. If it's good, well, I'll be impressed - but throwing money at something never improves the situation... Matrix Reloaded, King Kong, Star Wars Episodes 1, 2, and 3, Snakes on a Plane...

NextGenNow

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="Tasman_basic"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I think the sequel is going to surprise a lot of people.

I'm confident Sony know what they're doing. I don't expect it to be the next Halo or something but I do expect it to be a solid FPS, better than Resistance, not as good as Halo.

subrosian

I really think hyping Killzone 2 at this point is fanboyism, nothing else. Yes, we can say Killzone 2 may be a great game, that it will improve on Killzone, but saying it's going to own, or 'win' is just disregarding it's past.

There is nothing in Killzone 1, or anything so far we've seen from Killzone 2 (which we've been given a ridiculously small amount of) that suggests it's going to blow away all the FPS competition. History is not on it's side, what we've been shown of the game itself is not on it's side, so when threads like this get made, all I can assume is that hyping Killzone is a result of fanboyism.

Hey, Killzone 2 might be great and it's pretty much a given it'll be better than Killzone, but there's just not enough out there to say more than that at the moment. 

1. Killzone invented grainy picture in gaming FPS (you saw this kind of picture in the movie 300)

NextGenNow

I really think hyping Killzone 2 at this point is fanboyism, nothing else. Yes, we can say Killzone 2 may be a great game, that it will improve on Killzone, but saying it's going to own, or 'win' is just disregarding it's past.

There is nothing in Killzone 1, or anything so far we've seen from Killzone 2 (which we've been given a ridiculously small amount of) that suggests it's going to blow away all the FPS competition. History is not on it's side, what we've been shown of the game itself is not on it's side, so when threads like this get made, all I can assume is that hyping Killzone is a result of fanboyism.

Hey, Killzone 2 might be great and it's pretty much a given it'll be better than Killzone, but there's just not enough out there to say more than that at the moment. 

Danm_999

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

1. Killzone invented grainy picture in gaming FPS (you saw this kind of picture in the movie 300)

Hewkii

The only reason why I think KZ2 will deliver, despite the track record with KZ1, is that Sony knows the hype surrounding this game, and they will get slammed really bad from competition and even media if expectations aren't fully satisfied. 100% support from Sony, that's got to be at least a decent game.-Antisocial-

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

I really think hyping Killzone 2 at this point is fanboyism, nothing else. Yes, we can say Killzone 2 may be a great game, that it will improve on Killzone, but saying it's going to own, or 'win' is just disregarding it's past.

There is nothing in Killzone 1, or anything so far we've seen from Killzone 2 (which we've been given a ridiculously small amount of) that suggests it's going to blow away all the FPS competition. History is not on it's side, what we've been shown of the game itself is not on it's side, so when threads like this get made, all I can assume is that hyping Killzone is a result of fanboyism.

Hey, Killzone 2 might be great and it's pretty much a given it'll be better than Killzone, but there's just not enough out there to say more than that at the moment.

NextGenNow

[QUOTE="-Antisocial-"]The only reason why I think KZ2 will deliver, despite the track record with KZ1, is that Sony knows the hype surrounding this game, and they will get slammed really bad from competition and even media if expectations aren't fully satisfied. 100% support from Sony, that's got to be at least a decent game.Danm_999

Yeah, but KZ1 didn't have nearly the amount of hype as KZ2 does now. The plot for KZ1 was actually very good... too bad nothing else complemented it (IMHO). :s-Antisocial-

Err what? I'd say Killzone 1 had MORE hype than Killzone 2, because then there wasn't another game in the series to sully it's reputation.

It was, make no mistake, being pronounced as a Halo killer, and all those rumours about online co-op. To be fair to Guerilla, they didn't say any of these things were in the game, and they didn't say they were trying to compete with Halo, but the hype was there just the same. 

[QUOTE="-Antisocial-"] Yeah, but KZ1 didn't have nearly the amount of hype as KZ2 does now. The plot for KZ1 was actually very good... too bad nothing else complemented it (IMHO). :sDanm_999

Err what? I'd say Killzone 1 had MORE hype than Killzone 2, because then there wasn't another game in the series to sully it's reputation.

It was, make no mistake, being pronounced as a Halo killer, and all those rumours about online co-op. To be fair to Guerilla, they didn't say any of these things were in the game, and they didn't say they were trying to compete with Halo, but the hype was there just the same. 

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="-Antisocial-"] Yeah, but KZ1 didn't have nearly the amount of hype as KZ2 does now. The plot for KZ1 was actually very good... too bad nothing else complemented it (IMHO). :sNextGenNow

Err what? I'd say Killzone 1 had MORE hype than Killzone 2, because then there wasn't another game in the series to sully it's reputation.

It was, make no mistake, being pronounced as a Halo killer, and all those rumours about online co-op. To be fair to Guerilla, they didn't say any of these things were in the game, and they didn't say they were trying to compete with Halo, but the hype was there just the same.

Seriously though, what did you expect me to say about Killzone? Those are very nice FMVs you posted by that firstly don't tell me anything about Killzone's graphics or gameplay, and secondly don't quantify Halo as lame.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I think the sequel is going to surprise a lot of people.

I'm confident Sony know what they're doing. I don't expect it to be the next Halo or something but I do expect it to be a solid FPS, better than Resistance, not as good as Halo. 

NextGenNow

Okay... let me try to understand cow logic...

Killzone, which has had a bad first game, is all of a sudden going to become a great game because of... better graphics?

And the halo series, which has proven itself in 2 games already, is going to be worse than this series that has yet to make a single good console appearance?

"Whaaaaaaat?"

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="-Antisocial-"] Yeah, but KZ1 didn't have nearly the amount of hype as KZ2 does now. The plot for KZ1 was actually very good... too bad nothing else complemented it (IMHO). :sDanm_999

Err what? I'd say Killzone 1 had MORE hype than Killzone 2, because then there wasn't another game in the series to sully it's reputation.

It was, make no mistake, being pronounced as a Halo killer, and all those rumours about online co-op. To be fair to Guerilla, they didn't say any of these things were in the game, and they didn't say they were trying to compete with Halo, but the hype was there just the same.

Seriously though, what did you expect me to say about Killzone? Those are very nice FMVs you posted by that firstly don't tell me anything about Killzone's graphics or gameplay, and secondly don't quantify Halo as lame.

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I think the sequel is going to surprise a lot of people.

I'm confident Sony know what they're doing. I don't expect it to be the next Halo or something but I do expect it to be a solid FPS, better than Resistance, not as good as Halo. 

Codename33

Okay... let me try to understand cow logic...

Killzone, which has had a bad first game, is all of a sudden going to become a great game because of... better graphics?

And the halo series, which has proven itself in 2 games already, is going to be worse than this series that has yet to make a single good console appearance?

"Whaaaaaaat?"

[QUOTE="Codename33"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I think the sequel is going to surprise a lot of people.

I'm confident Sony know what they're doing. I don't expect it to be the next Halo or something but I do expect it to be a solid FPS, better than Resistance, not as good as Halo. 

NextGenNow

Okay... let me try to understand cow logic...

Killzone, which has had a bad first game, is all of a sudden going to become a great game because of... better graphics?

And the halo series, which has proven itself in 2 games already, is going to be worse than this series that has yet to make a single good console appearance?

"Whaaaaaaat?"

Halo 1's multiplayer was so great offline that I can't see how it could be bad online.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="-Antisocial-"] Yeah, but KZ1 didn't have nearly the amount of hype as KZ2 does now. The plot for KZ1 was actually very good... too bad nothing else complemented it (IMHO). :sNextGenNow

Err what? I'd say Killzone 1 had MORE hype than Killzone 2, because then there wasn't another game in the series to sully it's reputation.

It was, make no mistake, being pronounced as a Halo killer, and all those rumours about online co-op. To be fair to Guerilla, they didn't say any of these things were in the game, and they didn't say they were trying to compete with Halo, but the hype was there just the same.

Seriously though, what did you expect me to say about Killzone? Those are very nice FMVs you posted by that firstly don't tell me anything about Killzone's graphics or gameplay, and secondly don't quantify Halo as lame.

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="-Antisocial-"] Yeah, but KZ1 didn't have nearly the amount of hype as KZ2 does now. The plot for KZ1 was actually very good... too bad nothing else complemented it (IMHO). :sDanm_999

Err what? I'd say Killzone 1 had MORE hype than Killzone 2, because then there wasn't another game in the series to sully it's reputation.

It was, make no mistake, being pronounced as a Halo killer, and all those rumours about online co-op. To be fair to Guerilla, they didn't say any of these things were in the game, and they didn't say they were trying to compete with Halo, but the hype was there just the same.

Seriously though, what did you expect me to say about Killzone? Those are very nice FMVs you posted by that firstly don't tell me anything about Killzone's graphics or gameplay, and secondly don't quantify Halo as lame.

[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]

[QUOTE="Tasman_basic"]I don't get KZ hate at all. It had some flaws but it was a great game. jonesy1911

I disagree. Killzone was a rubbish game;: but when playing it, I did feel that the game did have the potential to be very good. It was ruined by poor AI, horrendous repetitive dialogue, poor character design (imo), etc. You can only call it a great game if you haven't played any other FPS

Better storyline. Check how much fanfiction has been written for halo, and then how much for killzone  

 Halo (1726)

 Killzone (7)

Oh and has killzone had 4 novels written, a graphic novel, a movie planned and marval making a comic book.

Oh and halos graphics have always been stylised.  

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I think the sequel is going to surprise a lot of people.

I'm confident Sony know what they're doing. I don't expect it to be the next Halo or something but I do expect it to be a solid FPS, better than Resistance, not as good as Halo.

NextGenNow

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"] I'm not going to debate any more with someone who is under the delusion Killzone was a good game.Danm_999

Fortunately for me, the industry is on my side in that view of Killzone, unfortunately for you, the industry is not on your side. Also, Serious Sam 1 on PC was a decent game.

Yeah I agree, I mean guys here are way too quick to knock Guirrilla. I know their first game was not all that but it was their first experience creating a game for a console, they were relatively new developers with experience only on the PC.

This time Killzone for the PS3 has much more going for it and I believe it could well be the definitive FPS on PS3, don't worry guys you don't need to feel threated because were not hyping this game a Halo Killer or a Crysis Killer.

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I think the sequel is going to surprise a lot of people.

I'm confident Sony know what they're doing. I don't expect it to be the next Halo or something but I do expect it to be a solid FPS, better than Resistance, not as good as Halo.

Codename33

Okay... let me try to understand cow logic...

Killzone, which has had a bad first game, is all of a sudden going to become a great game because of... better graphics?

And the halo series, which has proven itself in 2 games already, is going to be worse than this series that has yet to make a single good console appearance?

"Whaaaaaaat?"