10 reasons why PC is superior to consoles

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

You cant play them in offline-mode unless you first go online and change setting for that game....

aroxx_ab

You stipulated that the internet must go down. Thus, the internet must have been working, or you had access to it. Also, you don't have to change for settings for any particular game. So long as my Steam client has been up-to-date, i've been able to play the vast majority of my games in offline mode. Those exempt from this are MMOs/always-on DRM games, for obvious reasons.

Your own limitations are biting you in the ass here.

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I can easily play my games in offline mode, and on occasion, I do.

I have no limitations, i can play steam in online-mode and other online services 24/7 if i want to. I have not sucky Internet-connection.

Your arbitrary limitation stipulated that the internet went down. Indicating that it was at one point, "up". Stick to the argument at hand... It doesn't help when you jump all over the place with irrelevant points.

Now:

1. Steam Offline mode exists, and works.
2. Other DD services exist, as well as hard copies.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Poor Hermits, Gaikai will destroy your gaming PC's in the future. It will take away the thing you admire the most, graphics.

menes777

:lol: Classic troll, maybe if you want some attention maybe try going outside and interacting with actual people?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

You cant play your Steam/PC games either when Internet goes down, most of them require constant Internet access. After all, PC gaming is all about MMO/RTS online.

aroxx_ab

Prove that most of them require constant internet access. Steam has an offline mode.

No, it's not.

You cant play them in offline-mode unless you first go online and change setting for that game....

also not true

games don't have individual settings for offline mode

you only need to do it with your steam account once

[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Poor Hermits, Gaikai will destroy your gaming PC's in the future. It will take away the thing you admire the most, graphics.

Davekeeh

:lol: Classic troll, maybe if you want some attention maybe try going outside and interacting with actual people?

I can see you have no idea what a fact is

[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Poor Hermits, Gaikai will destroy your gaming PC's in the future. It will take away the thing you admire the most, graphics.

Davekeeh

:lol: Classic troll, maybe if you want some attention maybe try going outside and interacting with actual people?

Actually none of the things you've said are facts. Facts require proof.

Maybe expensive gaming PC's will not die out for the people who don't have internet or have a bad connection but the truth is Gaikai will always have the best graphics, so Hermits will never be able to brag about something anymore because all they do is brag about graphics.

Only 10 reasons?

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="menes777"]

:lol: Classic troll, maybe if you want some attention maybe try going outside and interacting with actual people?

lostrib

Actually none of the things you've said are facts. Facts require proof.

Maybe expensive gaming PC's will not die out for the people who don't have internet or have a bad connection but the truth is Gaikai will always have the best graphics, so Hermits will never be able to brag about something anymore because all they do is brag about graphics.

Davekeeh

Maybe expensive gaming PC's will not die out for the people who don't have internet or have a bad connection but the truth is Gaikai will always have the best graphics, so Hermits will never be able to brag about something anymore because all they do is brag about graphics.

Davekeeh

Not necessarily. If it's essentially like OnLive, then the games will be run via server blades... Many of them. There comes a point where upgrading every server blade regularly becomes too expensive. Especially if the service cannot maintain enough of a client-base.

Now, if it "will always have the best graphics", how will it have the best graphics for those with an insufficient internet service? Watch your use of the term "always";)

At the end of the day, local machines are a proven model. Cloud-services are still in their infancy, especially for something like this. Whilst I agree it is the likely future, using it as your sole argument is just ignorant.

The truth is Gaikai will always have the best graphics, so Hermits will never be able to brag about something anymore because all they do is brag about graphics.

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Maybe expensive gaming PC's will not die out for the people who don't have internet or have a bad connection but the truth is Gaikai will always have the best graphics, so Hermits will never be able to brag about something anymore because all they do is brag about graphics.

rilpas

I think right now he's just attempting to raise his level to 10. Everything he says is just a troll attempt or to increase his number of posts. If he had any brains though he would realize that there were faster ways to increase your level. :roll:

It will only be a matter of time until Gaikai (SONY) will destroy the PC

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I don't want attention i'm just stating facts, gaikai will eventually replace expensive gaming PC's that constantly need new hardware to keep up with new games.

parkurtommo

Actually none of the things you've said are facts. Facts require proof.

I felt the need to explain it, he seems a little "special"

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ChubbyGuy40

that is one of the best things i have ever seen here.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

The truth is Gaikai will always have the best graphics, so Hermits will never be able to brag about something anymore because all they do is brag about graphics.

heretrix

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

It will only be a matter of time until Gaikai (SONY) will destroy the PC

ionusX

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Prove that most of them require constant internet access. Steam has an offline mode.

No, it's not.

rilpas

You cant play them in offline-mode unless you first go online and change setting for that game....

also not true

games don't have individual settings for offline mode

you only need to do it with your steam account once

Do you have every Steam game installed? i dont.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

You stipulated that the internet must go down. Thus, the internet must have been working, or you had access to it. Also, you don't have to change for settings for any particular game. So long as my Steam client has been up-to-date, i've been able to play the vast majority of my games in offline mode. Those exempt from this are MMOs/always-on DRM games, for obvious reasons.

Your own limitations are biting you in the ass here.

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I can easily play my games in offline mode, and on occasion, I do.

lundy86_4

I have no limitations, i can play steam in online-mode and other online services 24/7 if i want to. I have not sucky Internet-connection.

Your arbitrary limitation stipulated that the internet went down. Indicating that it was at one point, "up". Stick to the argument at hand... It doesn't help when you jump all over the place with irrelevant points.

Now:

1. Steam Offline mode exists, and works.
2. Other DD services exist, as well as hard copies.

1.Yes it works if you first prepare in online-mode, its principle that you need online for SP games i don't like, even if you only need it short time. Thats 1 reason why i like SP games for consoles

2.Sure and hard copies is useless today, you bind them to Steam/origin. You can throw away the game boxes/disc after used the game-key

1.Superior Graphics.

2.PC games are much cheap than 60$ console games.

3.Free Online ( with exception of mmorpg's like WOW etc).

4.Mods,Cheats,Tweaks.

5.No need to discard any PC games unlike console games ( Discard PS 2 games after buying PS 3, Discard Xbox games after buying Xbox 360). Any older PC games can run on newer O/S by tweaks.

6.Steam (free DLC's,cheapest game deals/bundles)

7.Can upgrade PC components like Ram,CPU,GPU anytime you wish than discarding your PC

8.80% of console games eventually get ported to PC.

9.Vast Library of games ( old skool to next gen )

10. above all :

PC CAN DO ANYTHING ( 3D,Blu Ray,Pron,Movies,Music,Video Gaming,Work,Study)

So conclusion PC is superior to consoles.

Any questions?

indzman

what other insights do you have for us?

this

is not as nice as this?

thanks for the breaking news rainman.

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

It will only be a matter of time until Gaikai (SONY) will destroy the PC

Davekeeh

I find Sandow quite entertaining.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

You cant play them in offline-mode unless you first go online and change setting for that game....

aroxx_ab

also not true

games don't have individual settings for offline mode

you only need to do it with your steam account once

Do you have every Steam game installed? i dont.

I do not, but there's nothing stopping you from making backups, it's entirely legal and even endorsed by steam

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

You cant play them in offline-mode unless you first go online and change setting for that game....

aroxx_ab

also not true

games don't have individual settings for offline mode

you only need to do it with your steam account once

Do you have every Steam game installed? i dont.

Out side of constant online DRM games (ie ubisoft) all other singleplayer games will work in offline mode, unless you checked the box to not save your steam credentials

[QUOTE="indzman"]

1.Superior Graphics.

2.PC games are much cheap than 60$ console games.

3.Free Online ( with exception of mmorpg's like WOW etc).

4.Mods,Cheats,Tweaks.

5.No need to discard any PC games unlike console games ( Discard PS 2 games after buying PS 3, Discard Xbox games after buying Xbox 360). Any older PC games can run on newer O/S by tweaks.

6.Steam (free DLC's,cheapest game deals/bundles)

7.Can upgrade PC components like Ram,CPU,GPU anytime you wish than discarding your PC

8.80% of console games eventually get ported to PC.

9.Vast Library of games ( old skool to next gen )

10. above all :

PC CAN DO ANYTHING ( 3D,Blu Ray,Pron,Movies,Music,Video Gaming,Work,Study)

So conclusion PC is superior to consoles.

Any questions?

Riverwolf007

what other insights do you have for us?

this

is not as nice as this?

thanks for the breaking news rainman.

+1

11. It's a form of birth control

11. It's a form of birth control

TopTierHustler

Also It dosen't have any of my favorite games all of which are on sony or ninty consoles.

[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

11. It's a form of birth control

rilpas

Also It dosen't have any of my favorite games all of which are on sony or ninty consoles.

11. It's a form of birth control

TopTierHustler

looooool

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="indzman"]

2.PC games are much cheap than 60$ console games. PC games is not much cheaper, they cost about $49-49 here.

5.No need to discard any PC games unlike console games ( Discard PS 2 games after buying PS 3, Discard Xbox games after buying Xbox 360). Any older PC games can run on newer O/S by tweaks.I didnt need to discard any Ps2 games when i bought Ps3, my Ps2 still works just fine.

6.Steam (free DLC's,cheapest game deals/bundles)Steam is a rippoff at new games. And you dont own the games you pay for at steam, it is like a rental service. Games i buy for consoles i own and can do what i want with. Can sell them or friends can borrow them etc.

parkurtommo

Console gaming has the ablity to try games before buying (friends house, rentals) Trading in games for newer games, local multiplayer, unified multiplayer (not everyone is using steam, not all games use steam, all ps3 games and xbox games are on xbox live meaning I can communicate with any of my friends without 3rd party tools.) Im a pc gamer, you're full of ****

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="inb4uall"] +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 :lol:

Also It dosen't have any of my favorite games all of which are on sony or ninty consoles.

inb4uall

actually yes, they do work with the PC

and as for the PS3, don't worry, give it time

Console gaming has the ablity to try games before buying (friends house, rentals) Trading in games for newer games, local multiplayer, unified multiplayer (not everyone is using steam, not all games use steam, all ps3 games and xbox games are on xbox live meaning I can communicate with any of my friends without 3rd party tools.) Im a pc gamer, you're full of ****

Maneil99

PC gaming has the ability to try games before buying them (friends house, demos)

You can sell old PC games (disks ofc you idiots) and trade that cash for newer games.

LAN - Local area network.

Unified multiplayer? Since when has mutliplayer been crossplatform between Wii/360/PS3?

PS3 games on Xbox live? If you need 1st party products, theres microsoft messenger which allows me to communicate with people on steam, origin and wow at the same time.

You need to rethink your arguement before calling other people out.

Console gaming has the ablity to try games before buying (friends house, rentals) Trading in games for newer games, local multiplayer, unified multiplayer (not everyone is using steam, not all games use steam, all ps3 games and xbox games are on xbox live meaning I can communicate with any of my friends without 3rd party tools.) Im a pc gamer, you're full of ****

Maneil99

Pretty much this.

The social aspect of XBL makes it so most of my friends are on XBL (even tho we all have computers, we use XBL because we're not all using Steam, Teamspeak, Vent, Skype, etc.)

It's this unified aspect that keeps people together, and gives the platform a social value beyond xyz.

The PC "freedom" is one reason why on PC I can never seem to keep a friend for longer than 6 months, because either they move on or I move on.

My best friends were people I met on Eve Online.

We said we'd keep in touch by e-mail etc, but there's no motivation to do that, and we end up talking like once a year.

Meanwhile on my 360 I have alot of friends and we talk often.

So when it comes time to make a decision whether to renew my XBL Gold, it's hard to say "F*ck microsoft, I'm not paying for online" because I miss my friends.

And anyway if you think XBL won't become mandatory on Windows, you're dreaming.

Microsoft controls both platforms and they want money.

So either pay now or pay later, it's the future and you can't really fight it.

1.Yes it works if you first prepare in online-mode, its principle that you need online for SP games i don't like, even if you only need it short time. Thats 1 reason why i like SP games for consoles

2.Sure and hard copies is useless today, you bind them to Steam/origin. You can throw away the game boxes/disc after used the game-key

aroxx_ab

You need not buy games tied to a Steam account. Yes, they do exist, but there are many with which you are not required to have a Steam/Origin account.

Why do you seem to think you need an online form of DRM for every game? You are clearly misinformed :?

As to your second point, it's woefully incorrect. Yes, certain games may be tied to Steamworks, but others are not. Furthermore, there are DD services out there which do not require you to be connected.

[QUOTE="Maneil99"]
Console gaming has the ablity to try games before buying (friends house, rentals) Trading in games for newer games, local multiplayer, unified multiplayer (not everyone is using steam, not all games use steam, all ps3 games and xbox games are on xbox live or psn meaning I can communicate with any of my friends without 3rd party tools.) Im a pc gamer, you're full of ****

slimjimbadboy

PC gaming has the ability to try games before buying them (friends house, demos)

You can sell old PC games (disks ofc you idiots) and trade that cash for newer games.

LAN - Local area network.

Unified multiplayer? Since when has mutliplayer been crossplatform between Wii/360/PS3?

PS3 games on Xbox live? If you need 1st party products, theres microsoft messenger which allows me to communicate with people on steam, origin and wow at the same time.

You need to rethink your arguement before calling other people out.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

1.Yes it works if you first prepare in online-mode, its principle that you need online for SP games i don't like, even if you only need it short time. Thats 1 reason why i like SP games for consoles

2.Sure and hard copies is useless today, you bind them to Steam/origin. You can throw away the game boxes/disc after used the game-key

lundy86_4

You need not buy games tied to a Steam account. Yes, they do exist, but there are many with which you are not required to have a Steam/Origin account.

Why do you seem to think you need an online form of DRM for every game? You are clearly misinformed :?

As to your second point, it's woefully incorrect. Yes, certain games may be tied to Steamworks, but others are not. Furthermore, there are DD services out there which do not require you to be connected.

Problem is, PC is mainly DD and not as accessible as, say, a Wii. Most people who have PC's use it for movies or internet or chatting, not games. I think when it comes to fun factor, Nintendo greatly outweighs PC in that department. Plus you need to pay so much money to get what makes PC good, but you can easily just have as much creative fun with a $200 Wii as a $2000 PC. What does PC even have other then graphics?.WiiUnited

1. Mods
2. More games
3. F2P games
4. Improved performance
5. Multiple control schemes

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

1.Yes it works if you first prepare in online-mode, its principle that you need online for SP games i don't like, even if you only need it short time. Thats 1 reason why i like SP games for consoles

2.Sure and hard copies is useless today, you bind them to Steam/origin. You can throw away the game boxes/disc after used the game-key

Maneil99

You need not buy games tied to a Steam account. Yes, they do exist, but there are many with which you are not required to have a Steam/Origin account.

Why do you seem to think you need an online form of DRM for every game? You are clearly misinformed :?

As to your second point, it's woefully incorrect. Yes, certain games may be tied to Steamworks, but others are not. Furthermore, there are DD services out there which do not require you to be connected.

What on Earth are you talking about? I'm talking an online form, such as Steam or Diablo 3's always-on DRM. Maybe you should understand the argument before jumping in the middle of it;)

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

1.Yes it works if you first prepare in online-mode, its principle that you need online for SP games i don't like, even if you only need it short time. Thats 1 reason why i like SP games for consoles

2.Sure and hard copies is useless today, you bind them to Steam/origin. You can throw away the game boxes/disc after used the game-key

Maneil99

You need not buy games tied to a Steam account. Yes, they do exist, but there are many with which you are not required to have a Steam/Origin account.

Why do you seem to think you need an online form of DRM for every game? You are clearly misinformed :?

As to your second point, it's woefully incorrect. Yes, certain games may be tied to Steamworks, but others are not. Furthermore, there are DD services out there which do not require you to be connected.

Sins of a Solar empire: rebellion

The Witcher 2

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="menes777"]

LOL good luck with that when your internet connection goes down and you can't play anything

Also good luck with that when bandwidth caps really are enforced for all ISP's and you can only play about a week out of the month!

BTW how is Onlive doing right now? Not toppling consoles or PC I see. Hmmmmm

rilpas

You cant play your Steam/PC games either when Internet goes down, most of them require constant Internet access. After all, PC gaming is all about MMO/RTS online.

not true on both counts

and even if PC was all about MMO/RTS that's still more then what the PS3 got this year ( which is to say: jack sh*t)

[QUOTE="Maneil99"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

You need not buy games tied to a Steam account. Yes, they do exist, but there are many with which you are not required to have a Steam/Origin account.

Why do you seem to think you need an online form of DRM for every game? You are clearly misinformed :?

As to your second point, it's woefully incorrect. Yes, certain games may be tied to Steamworks, but others are not. Furthermore, there are DD services out there which do not require you to be connected.

rilpas

Sins of a Solar empire: rebellion

The Witcher 2

[QUOTE="WiiUnited"]Problem is, PC is mainly DD and not as accessible as, say, a Wii. Most people who have PC's use it for movies or internet or chatting, not games. I think when it comes to fun factor, Nintendo greatly outweighs PC in that department. Plus you need to pay so much money to get what makes PC good, but you can easily just have as much creative fun with a $200 Wii as a $2000 PC. What does PC even have other then graphics?.lundy86_4

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Maneil99"] Name a big AAA pc game released in the last 2 years that doesnt use some sort of DRM?

Maneil99

Sins of a Solar empire: rebellion

The Witcher 2

why does it matter?

btw there are fully working emulators for every console up to ps2 including handhelds so you've got better bc for consoles than the actual consoles

which you can play with the wonderful 360 controller instead of, well, you know.

BigDaddyPOLO

PCs have more robust backwards compatibility than any of the next-gen consoles will, because they can play EVERYTHING. Heck, we will probably see PS3 and Xbox 360 games running on PCs long before we ever see backwards compatibility for them on their next-gen counterparts (fat chance they will bother with it, given that only a high-end PC can hypothetically handle that kind of emulation). PC has always been the best place to be when it comes to legacy games, even if you don't have a high-end machine.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="WiiUnited"]Problem is, PC is mainly DD and not as accessible as, say, a Wii. Most people who have PC's use it for movies or internet or chatting, not games. I think when it comes to fun factor, Nintendo greatly outweighs PC in that department. Plus you need to pay so much money to get what makes PC good, but you can easily just have as much creative fun with a $200 Wii as a $2000 PC. What does PC even have other then graphics?.WiiUnited

ModsMore gamesF2P gamesImproved performanceMultiple control schemes

installing mods really isn't an advanced technique. sometimes it's as simple as installing a normal program or dragging and dropping a file into a folder.

[QUOTE="WiiUnited"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

ModsMore gamesF2P gamesImproved performanceMultiple control schemesCaseyWegner

installing mods really isn't an advanced technique. sometimes it's as simple as installing a normal program or dragging and dropping a file into a folder.

[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

btw there are fully working emulators for every console up to ps2 including handhelds so you've got better bc for consoles than the actual consoles

which you can play with the wonderful 360 controller instead of, well, you know.

Timstuff

PCs have more robust backwards compatibility than any of the next-gen consoles will, because they can play EVERYTHING. Heck, we will probably see PS3 and Xbox 360 games running on PCs long before we ever see backwards compatibility for them on their next-gen counterparts (fat chance they will bother with it, given that only a high-end PC can hypothetically handle that kind of emulation). PC has always been the best place to be when it comes to legacy games, even if you don't have a high-end machine.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

btw there are fully working emulators for every console up to ps2 including handhelds so you've got better bc for consoles than the actual consoles

which you can play with the wonderful 360 controller instead of, well, you know.

Davekeeh

PCs have more robust backwards compatibility than any of the next-gen consoles will, because they can play EVERYTHING. Heck, we will probably see PS3 and Xbox 360 games running on PCs long before we ever see backwards compatibility for them on their next-gen counterparts (fat chance they will bother with it, given that only a high-end PC can hypothetically handle that kind of emulation). PC has always been the best place to be when it comes to legacy games, even if you don't have a high-end machine.