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#51  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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Are you still trying this, you lemming moron?

BATTLEFIELD 4 ON PS4 WAS 900p

And it still looks better. No crushed blacks or stupid jaggies.

And for the last time, because you're a tool:

"It falls to resolution to define the better console release - and in this case the PS4's full 1080p native resolution gives it a clear edge. for clinical, bright indoor areas the [Xbone's] increased pixel-crawl is a distraction. Both versions suffer from texture pop-in and occasional tearing in different areas," "PC is the best of the four, then, with PS4 coming closest to matching it,"

TF had the same textures on both consoles. Deal with it.

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#52 sailor232
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@GoldenElementXL said:

@dxmcat: If you are looking to buy a 4K tv in the summer and sold your 1080p tv last fall what are you currently using? And what are you going to be using a 4k tv for? I know gaming ain't it.

Well it could be used for PC gaming.

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#53  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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@GravityX said:

@lostrib said:

Just wait for dat DX12

pfft..PS4 is getting Mantle...that is going to make the PS4 sing, not sold on DirectX 12 yet.

Humiliation complete. PS4 isn't getting Mantle.

Thanks for playing. Lemmings, please get out of my hobby.

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#54  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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If I had to choose between a game being 1080p or it being 900p with more detail, I'd go for option 2 every time.

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#55 GrenadeLauncher
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

If I had to choose between a game that was 1080p or one that was 900p with more detail, I'd go for option 2 every time.

Every multiplat so far has had the same textures, despite lemming shitposting.

If you need to emulate the Xbone's shitty sharpener, you can do so using your TV settings.

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#56 misterpmedia
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I guess TC doesn't want to talk about the multiplats that run better, at a higher resolution and added graphical effects on PS4 as apposed to the Xbone version. Shame.

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#57  Edited By Mr-Kutaragi
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Selfown confirm. Two thread now that happen, try for strike 3.

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#58 GravityX
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@sailor232 said:

I'll take the better looking game running smooth. Also I'll be the first to answer the picture question, I'm guessing the left one is 1080p but I know I am wrong because that's how things turn out.

Oh, I'm sorry the one on the right is the superior 1080p version.

Thanks for playing!

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#59 GrenadeLauncher
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@GravityX said:

@sailor232 said:

I'll take the better looking game running smooth. Also I'll be the first to answer the picture question, I'm guessing the left one is 1080p but I know I am wrong because that's how things turn out.

Oh, I'm sorry the one on the right is the superior 1080p version.

Thanks for playing!

Thanks for ignoring every other post, lemming.

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#60  Edited By gameofthering
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@GravityX: I always find it difficult to notice resolution differences unless it's running on a TV in front of me.

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#61  Edited By GravityX
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

@GravityX said:

@sailor232 said:

I'll take the better looking game running smooth. Also I'll be the first to answer the picture question, I'm guessing the left one is 1080p but I know I am wrong because that's how things turn out.

Oh, I'm sorry the one on the right is the superior 1080p version.

Thanks for playing!

Thanks for ignoring every other post, lemming.

I was doing stuff, jeez.

But the point, I was trying to make. Why are these issues occurring on a much more powerful system. Can't we all ask why? Is that a crime? Why do we get all defensive?

Missing deatail, washed out textures and missing assets to acheive 1080p? Really why? Where is this 75% more power going to?

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#62  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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Bu, bu, but Sony and some obscure indie dev said my PS4 was more powerful!

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#63 GravityX
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@gameofthering said:

@GravityX: I always find it difficult to notice resolution differences unless it's running on a TV in front of me.

More to the point, What corners are being cut to achieve 1080p. That's the question.

The purposes were to show in the same instance in game, why the higher resolution game has, blurry, missing or streaming texture issues.

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#64 misterpmedia
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I guess TC only replies to things that support his theory. Cowardly and boring. :P

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#65  Edited By GravityX
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@misterpmedia said:

I guess TC only replies to things that support his theory. Cowardly and boring. :P

What you got? And hurry up I need to go the store.

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#66 Ribstaylor1
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The fact reselution is even an arguing point, is a testomit to how underpowered these machines really are. Like come on 1080p has been the standard definition of tv's for 10 years....

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#67  Edited By misterpmedia
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@GravityX said:

@misterpmedia said:

I guess TC only replies to things that support his theory. Cowardly and boring. :P

What you got? And hurry up I need to go the store.

first page. Along with probably a lot more user comments you must have ignored.

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#68  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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@GravityX said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

@GravityX said:

@sailor232 said:

I'll take the better looking game running smooth. Also I'll be the first to answer the picture question, I'm guessing the left one is 1080p but I know I am wrong because that's how things turn out.

Oh, I'm sorry the one on the right is the superior 1080p version.

Thanks for playing!

Thanks for ignoring every other post, lemming.

I was doing stuff, jeez.

But the point, I was trying to make. Why are these issues occurring on a much more powerful system. Can't we all ask why? Is that a crime? Why do we get all defensive?

Missing deatail, washed out textures and missing assets to acheive 1080p? Really why? Where is this 75% more power going to?


It's a texture streaming issue and both versions have them. They both have the same textures so your central premise is totally flawed.

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#69  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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This is on a lot of levels in Strider. The PS4 is missing ground textures (once again).

Pretty much every game on the PS4 demonstrates this in some way. Some sacrifice is made to get the end result.

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#70 GravityX
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@GrenadeLauncher said:
@GravityX said:

I was doing stuff, jeez.

But the point, I was trying to make. Why are these issues occurring on a much more powerful system. Can't we all ask why? Is that a crime? Why do we get all defensive?

Missing deatail, washed out textures and missing assets to acheive 1080p? Really why? Where is this 75% more power going to?

It's a texture streaming issue and both versions have them. They both have the same textures so your central premise is totally flawed.

Have you looked the pics, in the some areas the higher resolution screens have either missing or flat textures compared to the lower resolution pics. Once we can agree on that point maybe we can figure why that is.

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#71 GrenadeLauncher
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@GravityX said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:
@GravityX said:

I was doing stuff, jeez.

But the point, I was trying to make. Why are these issues occurring on a much more powerful system. Can't we all ask why? Is that a crime? Why do we get all defensive?

Missing deatail, washed out textures and missing assets to acheive 1080p? Really why? Where is this 75% more power going to?

It's a texture streaming issue and both versions have them. They both have the same textures so your central premise is totally flawed.

Have you looked the pics, in the some areas the higher resolution screens have either missing or flat textures compared to the lower resolution pics. Once we can agree on that point maybe we can figure why that is.

And then they load in. I have little interest in your JPG screencaps of compressed Youtube videos.

Stop being a lemming.

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#72 GravityX
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

@GravityX said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:
@GravityX said:

I was doing stuff, jeez.

But the point, I was trying to make. Why are these issues occurring on a much more powerful system. Can't we all ask why? Is that a crime? Why do we get all defensive?

Missing deatail, washed out textures and missing assets to acheive 1080p? Really why? Where is this 75% more power going to?

It's a texture streaming issue and both versions have them. They both have the same textures so your central premise is totally flawed.

Have you looked the pics, in the some areas the higher resolution screens have either missing or flat textures compared to the lower resolution pics. Once we can agree on that point maybe we can figure why that is.

And then they load in. I have little interest in your JPG screencaps of compressed Youtube videos.

Stop being a lemming.

Look for yourself, they never load.

Loading Video...

Anyway I gotta go, don't want to be accused of not responding to people.

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#73  Edited By granddogg
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wow do people really think there is a big jump in the gpu in both system...if i had a 7790 in my pc there is no way in hell im upgrading to a 7850/7870...its a small jump ...

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#74  Edited By kingcrimson24
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I rather have 60fps

60fps makes gameplay smooth and fast , and Gameplay is the most important

Lightning , Details , Colors , textures and shadow are also More Important than resolution .

but of course it would've been awesome if we could have all of them , but looks like Xbox one and PS4 can't do 1080/60fps . most Xbox games are less then 1080 and PS4 Exclusives are 30fps .

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@kingcrimson24 said:

I rather have 60fps

60fps makes gameplay smooth and fast , and Gameplay is the most important

Lightning , Details , Colors , textures and shadow are also More Important resolution .

but of course it would've been awesome if we could have all of them , but looks like Xbox one and PS4 can't do 1080/60fps . most Xbox games are less then 1080 and PS4 Exclusives are 30fps .

I came to say this.

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#76  Edited By 04dcarraher
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Simply put Sony needs to stop the unofficial 1080 requirement put on by the hype that PS4 is moar powerful. Games are suffering from unstable framerates causing stuttering, controller input lag and having to cut certain corners to get the 1080 resolution. imagine what it could do if it only had to render at 900 or 720. We would see actual 60 fps standard and or better graphics.

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#77  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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@GravityX said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

@GravityX said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:
@GravityX said:

I was doing stuff, jeez.

But the point, I was trying to make. Why are these issues occurring on a much more powerful system. Can't we all ask why? Is that a crime? Why do we get all defensive?

Missing deatail, washed out textures and missing assets to acheive 1080p? Really why? Where is this 75% more power going to?

It's a texture streaming issue and both versions have them. They both have the same textures so your central premise is totally flawed.

Have you looked the pics, in the some areas the higher resolution screens have either missing or flat textures compared to the lower resolution pics. Once we can agree on that point maybe we can figure why that is.

And then they load in. I have little interest in your JPG screencaps of compressed Youtube videos.

Stop being a lemming.

Look for yourself, they never load.

Anyway I gotta go, don't want to be accused of not responding to people.

I don't need to look, I've played the game. They load.

You need to do better than a compressed Youtube video in future. This, for instance: http://trailers-ak.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/1/t_metalgearsolidv_consolecomparison_10kbps.mp4

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#78  Edited By slimdogmilionar
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Lookin through this on my way to work and can't help but laugh. If ps4 is so mighty then how is it letting xbox get that close let alone have textures look better or "pop in" faster. You guys keep throwing Battlefield and stuff around but neglect the fact that BF is a last gen port and ps4 architecture is unified just like 360 minus edram, no surprise last gen ports look better on ps4. The fact is it's clear xbox has better textures, I'm surprised cows have not posted any pics to counter the op. Your eyes don't lie, but your ego will.

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#79  Edited By xX0LDSCH00LXx
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@GravityX said:

@scatteh316 said:

@GravityX said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

Dont know what you are trying to prove, every multiplat is factually better on PS4 besides Strider and Thief, you can cherry pick your screens all you want though.

Not cherry picking anything. These are the same instances in games, one at 1080p and they other at a lower resolution. However some of the 1080p picks look flatter, blurrier or missing detail all together.

Seems like corners are being cut to achieve 1080p.

You are cherry picking screens and I'll tell you why in capitals so it sinks in..

IF THIS DIFFERENCE WERE TRUE THERE WOULD BE A HUNDRED THREADS MADE BY LEMMINGS POINTING IT OUT AND BASHING COWS OVER IT, BUT INSTEAD ITS JUST YOU BEING A LITTLE TROLL AND CHERRY PICKING SCREENS TO TRY AND FLAME PS4 FOR A DIFFERENCE WHICH DOES NOT EXIST.

AND ALSO EVERY PROFESSIONAL COMPARISON SITES SAYS PS4 VERSIONS ARE BETTER.

SO TROLL ALONG LITTLE ONE

Maybe we can start recognizing what is occurring here and stop putting our heads in the sand. Stop ignoring what you see. Also these professionals are nothing more than people like me and you, stop putting them on a pedestal.

And no one has answered the bonus question.

The one on the left is X1 and right is PS4.

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From what I've seen so far , it seems like Sony have been asking devs to do 1080p at any cost . That's why most of the games like Tomb Raider , Trails Fusion etc have better particle effects , less pop ins , better textures etc on Xbox One while having lower resolution than PS4 .

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#82 granddogg
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as a gamer who has both i have not seen one game thats standing high above the other....

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#83 granddogg
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and then you have sony jumping up and down talking about we built the most powerful console ever well hell thats not hard to do and the xbone is the 2nd most powerful console ever

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#84  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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@Cloud_imperium said:

That's why most of the games like Tomb Raider , Trails Fusion etc have better particle effects , less pop ins , better textures etc on Xbox One while having lower resolution than PS4 .

@slimdogmilionar said:

The fact is it's clear xbox has better textures, I'm surprised cows have not posted any pics to counter the op. Your eyes don't lie, but your ego will.

lol nope.

Lemmings, go home.

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#85  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

That's why most of the games like Tomb Raider , Trails Fusion etc have better particle effects , less pop ins , better textures etc on Xbox One while having lower resolution than PS4 .

@slimdogmilionar said:

The fact is it's clear xbox has better textures, I'm surprised cows have not posted any pics to counter the op. Your eyes don't lie, but your ego will.

lol nope.

Lemmings, go home.

Wow , so mature . Speaking , what I noticed while being neutral makes be Lemming .? I don't even own a console . I game on PC only and frankly don't care about outdated hardware in both consoles that struggles to run games at 1080p on even on low settings . Try harder .

http://www.gamespot.com/profile/blog/platform-of-choice-for-next-generation-my-opinion/26031306/

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@Cloud_imperium said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

That's why most of the games like Tomb Raider , Trails Fusion etc have better particle effects , less pop ins , better textures etc on Xbox One while having lower resolution than PS4 .

@slimdogmilionar said:

The fact is it's clear xbox has better textures, I'm surprised cows have not posted any pics to counter the op. Your eyes don't lie, but your ego will.

lol nope.

Lemmings, go home.

Wow , so mature . Speaking , what I noticed while being neutral makes be Lemming .? I don't even own a console . I game on PC only and frankly don't care about outdated hardware in both consoles that struggles to run games at 1080p on even on low settings . Try harder .

http://www.gamespot.com/profile/blog/platform-of-choice-for-next-generation-my-opinion/26031306/

I'm sure. Fact is, TF and TR had the same textures on both consoles.

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#87 PAL360
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1080p60 should be standard this gen. Then devs would go as further as they can with graphics.

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#88 T-razor1
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Are you still trying this, you lemming moron?

BATTLEFIELD 4 ON PS4 WAS 900p

And it still looks better. No crushed blacks or stupid jaggies.

And for the last time, because you're a tool:

"It falls to resolution to define the better console release - and in this case the PS4's full 1080p native resolution gives it a clear edge. for clinical, bright indoor areas the [Xbone's] increased pixel-crawl is a distraction. Both versions suffer from texture pop-in and occasional tearing in different areas," "PC is the best of the four, then, with PS4 coming closest to matching it,"

TF had the same textures on both consoles. Deal with it.

Except for more clouds and less jaggies I still prefer the XOne shot. The PS4 shot is still slightly blurrier even at 900P. Just look at the gun. Heck look at any part in that gif.

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@slimdogmilionar said:

Lookin through this on my way to work and can't help but laugh. If ps4 is so mighty then how is it letting xbox get that close let alone have textures look better or "pop in" faster. You guys keep throwing Battlefield and stuff around but neglect the fact that BF is a last gen port and ps4 architecture is unified just like 360 minus edram, no surprise last gen ports look better on ps4. The fact is it's clear xbox has better textures, I'm surprised cows have not posted any pics to counter the op. Your eyes don't lie, but your ego will.

BF4 on the new consoles is directly from PC version of the game. BF4 on PS4/X1 is nothing like the 360/PS3 version.

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#90  Edited By T-razor1
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#91  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

That's why most of the games like Tomb Raider , Trails Fusion etc have better particle effects , less pop ins , better textures etc on Xbox One while having lower resolution than PS4 .

@slimdogmilionar said:

The fact is it's clear xbox has better textures, I'm surprised cows have not posted any pics to counter the op. Your eyes don't lie, but your ego will.

lol nope.

Lemmings, go home.

Wow , so mature . Speaking , what I noticed while being neutral makes be Lemming .? I don't even own a console . I game on PC only and frankly don't care about outdated hardware in both consoles that struggles to run games at 1080p on even on low settings . Try harder .

http://www.gamespot.com/profile/blog/platform-of-choice-for-next-generation-my-opinion/26031306/

I'm sure. Fact is, TF and TR had the same textures on both consoles.

Ya exact same textures .

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Tomb Raider :

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00:20 , Where are particle effects on PS4 .? 3:38 , where is dust effect in the background on PS4 .? The rest of the game looks same on both platforms but worse than PC overall .

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#92  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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@Cloud_imperium said:

Ya exact same textures .

Tomb Raider :

00:20 , Where are particle effects on PS4 .? 3:38 , where is dust effect in the background on PS4 .? The rest of the game looks same on both platforms but worse than PC overall .

Two isolated moments from a compressed Youtube video. I do wish people could do better than this.

@T-razor1 said:

Except for more clouds and less jaggies I still prefer the XOne shot. The PS4 shot is still slightly blurrier even at 900P. Just look at the gun. Heck look at any part in that gif.

Better start mourning then, because the sharpener that allowed for that jaggying that supposedly makes the Xbone version better got patched out.

Yeah, I looked at the gun, what I could see of it because the Xbone crushes blacks and wipes out detail.

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#93 Cloud_imperium
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

Ya exact same textures .

Tomb Raider :

00:20 , Where are particle effects on PS4 .? 3:38 , where is dust effect in the background on PS4 .? The rest of the game looks same on both platforms but worse than PC overall .

Two isolated moments from a compressed Youtube video. I do wish people could do better than this.

Same compressed video is used to showcase Xbox One version , isn't it .? I love how you completely ignored facts and couldn't prove me wrong . Then again , what can we expect from PS community .

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#94  Edited By Idontremember
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It's just so relative for different setups.

If you are sitting far from a small screen, then the difference between 720p and 1080p is impossible to see, only the framerate if the game is heavy can be felt. That's what happens when my PC is plugged in one of my TV. The couch is way too far and the TV too small.
On my main monitor thought, 1080p is NOT high enough. I could easily use 2560*1440 or even 4k. My face is literally IN the screen.

Playing closer is just more awesome. Enemies are just easier and faster to spot in the distance and the details more apparent, but as long as the resolution is high enough.

For PS4 gamers, in a few years, having the choice at all time of either 1080p/30 lower settings, or upscaled 720p/60 and higher settings could be a big plus. I'm pretty sure some of you would prefer one or the other depending on your setup.

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#95  Edited By Tighaman
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ps4 exposed 2014

killzone sp and mp not native 1080p

Af and texture streaming problems due to slow HDD and 2 API and two big wrappers(overhead)

Cpu bottlenecks low drawcalls and lacking data speed

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#97  Edited By blackace
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@lostrib said:

Just wait for dat DX12

XB1 already has some features of DX12 in it. The full version will be install at the end of the year. Greatness is coming.

Cows are probably having a field day damage controlling this thread. lol!!

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#98  Edited By Riverwolf007
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people here are into resolution because the marketing industry told them to be into it.

it is the first thing i cut when i am dialing in a new pc game and need the wasted resources for draw distance, lighting, particle and water effects, frames per second ect ect ect...

it was always strange to me that people are so into something that does not improve gameplay.

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#99 blackace
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@GrenadeLauncher said:
@GravityX said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

@GravityX said:

@sailor232 said:

I'll take the better looking game running smooth. Also I'll be the first to answer the picture question, I'm guessing the left one is 1080p but I know I am wrong because that's how things turn out.

Oh, I'm sorry the one on the right is the superior 1080p version.

Thanks for playing!

Thanks for ignoring every other post, lemming.

I was doing stuff, jeez.

But the point, I was trying to make. Why are these issues occurring on a much more powerful system. Can't we all ask why? Is that a crime? Why do we get all defensive?

Missing deatail, washed out textures and missing assets to acheive 1080p? Really why? Where is this 75% more power going to?

It's a texture streaming issue and both versions have them. They both have the same textures so your central premise is totally flawed.

Are you blind or did you not see some of the textures were missing in several PS4 screen shots. That has nothing to do with crushed blacks or anything else you're trying to say. Even in FoxbatAlpha's Strider pics you can see some ground textures missing. So devs will sacrifice texture to get the game to 1080P or stay at a higher resoltuion? Your comments are flawed as usual.

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#100  Edited By speedfog
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

@GravityX said:

@sailor232 said:

I'll take the better looking game running smooth. Also I'll be the first to answer the picture question, I'm guessing the left one is 1080p but I know I am wrong because that's how things turn out.

Oh, I'm sorry the one on the right is the superior 1080p version.

Thanks for playing!

Thanks for ignoring every other post, lemming.

I feel that you try to insult him by saying lemming. Lol

But I agree with you about your BF4 pic, and you look silly on these forums, just saying.