11/4000 PS4s had issues yesterday?

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#51 lostrib
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have all 4k been received by customers?

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#52  Edited By heretrix
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I kind of sucks when people blow things out of proportion doesn't it?

Kind of like the last few months of cow threads. This is SO much like the beginning of last gen it isn't even funny.

You can dish out bullshit but you can't take the backlash.

#Dealwithit.

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#53  Edited By lostrib
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@heretrix said:

I kind of sucks when people blow things out of proportion doesn't it?

Kind of like the last few months of cow threads. This is SO much like the beginning of last gen it isn't even funny.

You can dish out bullshit but you can't take the backlash.

#Dealwithit.

Fanboys gonna fanboy

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#54  Edited By coasterguy65
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@coasterguy65 said:

The S.D.F. is in overdrive today...lol.

Anyway if there are 7 reports of failures posted, then you can be sure that there are more. It's not like everyone posts their failures on the internet. Most people just call Sony, and wait for a replacement. Not everyone feels the need to be the center of attention.

That being said electronics break, and a launch console is going to have issues. The XBone will probably have issues next week also. Although for some reason I doubt the TC will be defending the low amount of XBone failures. I would imagine there will be links to each and every failure put up, and calls of another RRoD fiasco next week...

Yeah but only 7 means the amount is low. I don't subscribe to any console maker per se. But looking from the outside....this number is so small as to be negligible....and unless one has their own bias....they'd see that. It's pointless for anyone to pretend it's a wide spread problem when thus far....there is no reports. And if it were....we'd be hearing it by now.

I agree with your second post. RROD was a disgrace though.

Of course I didn't mean it to imply that the number was large, we really have no idea how many consoles are out there already. Just that some people will not go online to complain, they will just call Sony directly. So there are probably more than 7 or 9 failures. Still a certain amount of failures are expected with launch consoles.

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#55  Edited By Newhopes
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How many of those 4000 people actaully read and post on forums, little tip it's probably only the tip of the iceberg.

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#56 Shewgenja
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@Newhopes said:

How many of those 4000 people actaully read and post on forums, little tip it's probably only the tip of the iceberg.

You're absolutely right. People have no families or friends either. How stupid of me. In fact, I bet Sony flew spec ops troops in on black helicopters last night to silent the dissent.

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#57  Edited By freedomfreak
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@heretrix said:

I kind of sucks when people blow things out of proportion doesn't it?

Kind of like the last few months of cow threads. This is SO much like the beginning of last gen it isn't even funny.

You can dish out bullshit but you can't take the backlash.

#Dealwithit.

This is very true. Same shit, different gen.

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#58 Newhopes
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@Shewgenja said:

@Newhopes said:

How many of those 4000 people actaully read and post on forums, little tip it's probably only the tip of the iceberg.

You're absolutely right. People have no families or friends either. How stupid of me. In fact, I bet Sony flew spec ops troops in on black helicopters last night to silent the dissent.

No come back so just posting shit?

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#59  Edited By Netherscourge
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@Shewgenja said:

You do the math and figure out if this really sounds like RRoD. ~1% consoles with basic failures or something indicating that the GPU is slowly being cooked like barbecue? I'll let you work that one out. If you think HillZones will be indicative of how your PS4 experience will be, then by all means, rip the hard drive out of the PC you are reading this post on RIGHT NOW and let me know how that works for you.

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ok, I did the math.

9/4000 = 0.00225% failure rate.

For comparison, the RROD360 had a 30% failure rate.

Calm down lemmings. You still hold the title for worst console hardware ever launched.

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#60  Edited By lostrib
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@Netherscourge said:

@Shewgenja said:

You do the math and figure out if this really sounds like RRoD. ~1% consoles with basic failures or something indicating that the GPU is slowly being cooked like barbecue? I'll let you work that one out. If you think HillZones will be indicative of how your PS4 experience will be, then by all means, rip the hard drive out of the PC you are reading this post on RIGHT NOW and let me know how that works for you.

ok, I did the math.

8/4000 = 0.002% failure rate.

For comparison, the RROD360 had a 30% failure rate.

Calm down lemmings. You still hold the title for worst console hardware ever launched.

Uh the PS4 hasn't even launched, you can't calculate the failure rate.

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#61  Edited By shawn30
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Number 10

https://twitter.com/coryclimaldi

Has to ship it back and get a new one, but realy likes the console for the time he was able to play it.

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@lostrib said:

@Netherscourge said:

@Shewgenja said:

You do the math and figure out if this really sounds like RRoD. ~1% consoles with basic failures or something indicating that the GPU is slowly being cooked like barbecue? I'll let you work that one out. If you think HillZones will be indicative of how your PS4 experience will be, then by all means, rip the hard drive out of the PC you are reading this post on RIGHT NOW and let me know how that works for you.

ok, I did the math.

8/4000 = 0.002% failure rate.

For comparison, the RROD360 had a 30% failure rate.

Calm down lemmings. You still hold the title for worst console hardware ever launched.

Uh the PS4 hasn't even launched, you can't calculate the failure rate.

I know.

We'll find out over this weekend how many PS4's are failing.

But the OP told u to do the math, so I did it for him.

Based on his numbers, the failure rate is EXTREMELY SMALL.

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#63 heretrix
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@Netherscourge said:

Calm down lemmings. You still hold the title for worst console hardware ever launched.

Apparently you haven't owned many consoles because that is total bullshit.

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@adamosmaki: but it's okay for lems to make threads that say ps4's breaking everywhere when that hasn't been reported? Double standards much.

did you hear me say anything about that ? And is a different think commenting on something that actually happened and a whole different think predicting the failure rate be it good or bad of a launch product in its first day. You simply cant predict the failure rate in the first day and say its 1% like TC says or 30% like some Lem might say. Geee some cows in here

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#65  Edited By adamosmaki
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@lostrib said:

@Netherscourge said:

@Shewgenja said:

You do the math and figure out if this really sounds like RRoD. ~1% consoles with basic failures or something indicating that the GPU is slowly being cooked like barbecue? I'll let you work that one out. If you think HillZones will be indicative of how your PS4 experience will be, then by all means, rip the hard drive out of the PC you are reading this post on RIGHT NOW and let me know how that works for you.

ok, I did the math.

8/4000 = 0.002% failure rate.

For comparison, the RROD360 had a 30% failure rate.

Calm down lemmings. You still hold the title for worst console hardware ever launched.

Uh the PS4 hasn't even launched, you can't calculate the failure rate.

apparently they cant get that in their head. Also apparently the 0,002% failure rate is guaranteed to stay that low since after the first day if a PS4 aint broken is never gonna break in the future . Yeap fanboy logic to the roof

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#66 urbansys
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Good chance to buy MS stock now. You'll see it go up.

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#67  Edited By Shewgenja
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ITT:

Lems mad because numbers don't support the conclusion that PS4 has a catastrophic failure rate

Some people seem just plain mad there is new hardware (bu bu bu, it could fail in the future. No shit, it plugs into a wall outlet and internet, right?)

People super mad that one thread title actually quantifies what's happening as opposed to exaggerates.

Please, continue.

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#68 XBOunity
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@Shewgenja: dc at its finest lol.

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#69 Shewgenja
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@XBOunity said:

@Shewgenja: dc at its finest lol.

Damage control would be if I was obfuscating the number of failures rather than updating the thread title with the number. Cry moar.

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RROD's came after some use, these are dead right out of the box .

People should relax and wait a couple of month's, there's nothing to be alarmed by yet .

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#71  Edited By XBOunity
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@Shewgenja: the only crying i see is you trying to make all things ok. Best bet for you is boot your ps4 in safe mode when you get it. Lol and take that usb stick and update. Amateur lol

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#72 GodspellWH
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hard to tell when everybody doesn't post on the internet there are things such as calling customer support

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@Shewgenja: the only crying i see is you trying to make all things ok. Best bet for you is boot your ps4 in safe mode when you get it. Lol and take that usb stick and update. Amateur lol

It's not too late to stand in line now. Come on, you know you want a PS4.

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#74 I_can_haz
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Lol so many angry lems in this thread. Good job OP.

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#75  Edited By -Unreal-
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9/4000 that have been made known through the internet.

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@Shewgenja said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

Just because somebody decides to not to report their issues online or in a forum doesn't mean that the issues don't exist. Out of 4000 people, how many do you think would report defects? Or have already called Sony instead of posting it online?Compare that to millions of people with the console.

Welcome to the year 2013. If you don't have internet then you have family or friend who do. This is a huge product launch and people will weigh in on it. It's not like Sony sent these consoles to a bunch of grass huts in Borneo, dude.

You're ASSuming kid. Just because YOU might go crying on the internet doesn't mean everyone else would.

Cows will cow

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#77  Edited By kingtito
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@Shewgenja said:

@Newhopes said:

How many of those 4000 people actaully read and post on forums, little tip it's probably only the tip of the iceberg.

You're absolutely right. People have no families or friends either. How stupid of me. In fact, I bet Sony flew spec ops troops in on black helicopters last night to silent the dissent.

Yep you said it, how stupid of you. You really believe EVERYONE will go on the internet to cry just because YOU would? I guess you really are stupid.

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#78  Edited By Shewgenja
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@kingtito said:

@Shewgenja said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

Just because somebody decides to not to report their issues online or in a forum doesn't mean that the issues don't exist. Out of 4000 people, how many do you think would report defects? Or have already called Sony instead of posting it online?Compare that to millions of people with the console.

Welcome to the year 2013. If you don't have internet then you have family or friend who do. This is a huge product launch and people will weigh in on it. It's not like Sony sent these consoles to a bunch of grass huts in Borneo, dude.

You're ASSuming kid. Just because YOU might go crying on the internet doesn't mean everyone else would.

Cows will cow

Like I said earlier in this thread. If you took the number of actual known broken PS4s and doubled that number, then doubled that number AGAIN we would be up to 1%. In statistics, there are assumptions and then there are acceptable ranges. I'll let you decide which side of the court this falls on. You are more than free to take the information and draw your own conclusion.

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#79 Frostbite24
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Those were only the ones that have been reported so far. I hope it is just a fluke.

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#80 silversix_
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That's common sense. Lems have zero ammunition against dat ps4 so any kind of bullshit is something to them.

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#81 Shewgenja
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@Frostbite24 said:

Those were only the ones that have been reported so far. I hope it is just a fluke.

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#82  Edited By mems_1224
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No, 100% of PS4s have issues

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#83 xxgunslingerxx
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@urbansys said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@urbansys said:

Yup all 4000 decided to report in yesterday.... you got to be fing kidding me with this crap?

Whatever happened to posting with substance??

Eh....I'd imagine if it was a widespread problem....it would be reported. It's just as much crap to assume problems when they haven't been reported. Which is what you're doing.

because 4000 is a good representation of the million within the first month. The point is that if we are seeing this on an already very small scale, what will happen once millions of units hit the hands of users?

a smart person would say the ratio would stay the same? think much... probably not?

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@SUD123456 said:

@Shewgenja said:

@SUD123456 said:

Is that 7 after a day or two days? Idiot.

And no doubt you made a zillion 360 rrod threads in the past.

Wasn't here for RRoD. RRoD was also a billion dollar mistake.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9026340/Xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_costs_Microsoft_more_than_1B

No small wonder that Lems have their panties in a wad over a few PS4 issues. They are thirsty as hell.

No shit Sherlock. It has only been a day or two with a limited number of units. You might want to give it a while. Your slavish loyalty to a piece of plastic has your panties in a bunch. There is no need for this thread; at least yet, hopefully never

You cows are the worst. You dish it out continuously and yet can't take the smallest things. You aren't even smart enough to figure out that a thread like this just gives lemmings another opportunity.

It is 7 or whatever over a day or two. That means nothing, yet. Idiot.

You obviously are selectively reading threads.... oh wait your probably a lem

how many doom and gloom thread have lems made about hardware failures based on the same topic?

I love it when lems say stuff like cows are the worst but dont realize they are just as bad

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11th person, bricked to death

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#86  Edited By Shewgenja
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@shawn30 said:

11th person, bricked to death

https://twitter.com/WhosCalvin

Officially breaking the quarter of a percent mark. OP updated.

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#87  Edited By psymon100
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I think the amount of failure is acceptable at the moment.

But I'd be keen on some hard data. But I doubt anyone will release any.

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@XBOunity said:

@Shewgenja: the only crying i see is you trying to make all things ok. Best bet for you is boot your ps4 in safe mode when you get it. Lol and take that usb stick and update. Amateur lol

so the 360 didnt have any consoles that died on boot up? oh wait..... highest console fail rate in the history of gaming yea... why dont you wait more than a day before showing how desperate you are?

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#89  Edited By Shewgenja
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@xxgunslingerxx said:

@XBOunity said:

@Shewgenja: the only crying i see is you trying to make all things ok. Best bet for you is boot your ps4 in safe mode when you get it. Lol and take that usb stick and update. Amateur lol

so the 360 didnt have any consoles that died on boot up? oh wait..... highest console fail rate in the history of gaming yea... why dont you wait more than a day before showing how desperate you are?

Not sure if that was aimed at me or not, but I tell you what, I would L-O-V-E to see the Lemmings make a thread with a death-rate tally on their console. They certainly wouldn't have the balls to do what I've done. Write that in stone and quote me. I did it with the thread title, even.

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#90  Edited By StormyJoe
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@Shewgenja:

where does the 4000 come from?

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#91  Edited By Shewgenja
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@StormyJoe said:

@Shewgenja:

where does the 4000 come from?

Fair question:

http://ps4daily.com/2013/11/taco-bell-says-nearly-4000-people-won-a-ps4-now-giving-away-500-gamestop-gift-card/

Taco Bell's numbers.

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#92  Edited By danabo
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Let's put this in perspective:

If your Xbox 360 hasn't broken down yet or suffered from the dreaded red ring of death, then consider yourself pretty lucky.

A new survey published in Game Informer's print edition indicates the Xbox 360 failure rate has climbed to a shocking 54.2%. The magazine surveyed nearly 5000 readers, asking them about their experience dealing with broken consoles.

Here are their findings:

Console failure rate

Xbox 360 – 54.2%

Playstation 3 – 10.6%

Wii – 6.8%

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2009/08/17/report-xbox-360-failure-rate-reaches-54


So many threads on such a, for now, non-issue.

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#93  Edited By coasterguy65
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@danabo said:

Let's put this in perspective:

If your Xbox 360 hasn't broken down yet or suffered from the dreaded red ring of death, then consider yourself pretty lucky.

A new survey published in Game Informer's print edition indicates the Xbox 360 failure rate has climbed to a shocking 54.2%. The magazine surveyed nearly 5000 readers, asking them about their experience dealing with broken consoles.

Here are their findings:

Console failure rate

Xbox 360 – 54.2%

Playstation 3 – 10.6%

Wii – 6.8%

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2009/08/17/report-xbox-360-failure-rate-reaches-54

So many threads on such a, for now, non-issue.

The article has already been debunked. It was an non scientific survey. It would be like asking on here how many 360s have you had RRoD on you. All the PS fanboys would say they have had 10+ 360 consoles break. Square Trade, a company that actually repairs broken consoles said the rate is closer to 24%. Still bad, but no where near 54%

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#94 danabo
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@coasterguy65 said:

@danabo said:

Let's put this in perspective:

If your Xbox 360 hasn't broken down yet or suffered from the dreaded red ring of death, then consider yourself pretty lucky.

A new survey published in Game Informer's print edition indicates the Xbox 360 failure rate has climbed to a shocking 54.2%. The magazine surveyed nearly 5000 readers, asking them about their experience dealing with broken consoles.

Here are their findings:

Console failure rate

Xbox 360 – 54.2%

Playstation 3 – 10.6%

Wii – 6.8%

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2009/08/17/report-xbox-360-failure-rate-reaches-54

So many threads on such a, for now, non-issue.

The article has already been debunked. It was an non scientific survey. It would be like asking on here how many 360s have you had RRoD on you. All the PS fanboys would say they have had 10+ 360 consoles break. Square Trade, a company that actually repairs broken consoles said the rate is closer to 24%. Still bad, but no where near 54%

Linky

The point was a perspective thing, not the actual failure rate.

This is still a non-issue, for now.

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@Shewgenja: : on the real im getting a ps4 but am def weary of the first batch. Its really not smart to ever get a launch console. Last night with those kids trying to fix the ps4 was some of the funniest shit ever. I wish he formatted when he had the chance.

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#97  Edited By clyde46
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If the first batch is borked, I'll just ship it back to Sony for a new one. I had to do this 5 times with the 360 and 2 times with the PS3.

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#98 Floppy_Jim
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11 out of 4000? But that's all of them!

No need to worry as long as the failure rate stands below 3%.

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#99 AM-Gamer
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The failure rate at launch right now is at 0.4% to give you an example the 360s on day one was like 23%. The PS3's was around 10%.

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#100  Edited By Tighaman
Member since 2006 • 1038 Posts

this is so funny yall giving out percents of failure rates when ign didnt get their machine from the taco bell batch or did game stores where other ps4s are dead stop the madness who ever buy that on launch is a dummy.