12% of people are unable to see 3D

I dont know if the 3DS will work for me because im half blind :( I know the regular glasses 3D doesnt, wasting money on avatar 3D IMAX proved this to me LOLSp4rtan_3

Wow that sucks dude, I dunno if the 3DS will work, you can always try it out at a store when it comes out. Anyways I don't care if I can or can't see 3D I still need to get it!!!

I'm actually quite amazed I'm not a part of that 12%, seeing as I'm:

-Legally blind

-Failed the military depth perception test

-Have Virteous floaters in both eyes

Yeah, can you believe the military lets me shoot guns, and that I'm pretty damn good with them?

-TheSecondSign-

That 12% has more problems than being able to see games or movies in 3-D, they probably can't even drive safely.

Pug-Nasty

I dont know if the 3DS will work for me because im half blind :( I know the regular glasses 3D doesnt, wasting money on avatar 3D IMAX proved this to me LOLSp4rtan_3

Sucks to be them.

9% of people are color blind. I think it is safe to say that ColorTV was successful. I think 3D will be OK too.

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]I dont know if the 3DS will work for me because im half blind :( I know the regular glasses 3D doesnt, wasting money on avatar 3D IMAX proved this to me LOLianuilliam

[QUOTE="Rev3nger"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

as many as 12% of Brits (amounting to roughly six million people)

At least get that part right.

donalbane

You would probaly die waiting for it lol. You'd end up with trenchfoot in the eye.

On topic... I have 20/30 vision so im fine and dandy... Oh wait.

See... that's the funny thing about 3D. It has never actually been anything but a gimmick for everything its ever been involved with. Hell, back when stereoscopy was first discovered, it was seen as a "cool new thing" and now here, over 150 years later, its still seen as a "cool new thing" despite being incredibly old and merely a trick of the brain. I can see stereoscopic images quite well, and can see how many people think its "cool" but I don't see anything long-lasting or beneficial coming from the massive movement towards integrating it into everything. Its just an optical illusion that makes you go "WOAH!" when the picture pops out at you... only true virtual reality is actually going to move gaming forwards.

foxhound_fox

3D displays are usually a component to virtual reality.

3D displays are usually a component to virtual reality.

ThePlothole

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"] 3D displays are usually a component to virtual reality.

foxhound_fox

Yes, VR uses a headmount consisting of two displays, one in front of each eye, each displaying an image from a slightly different perspective. IE Stereoscopy.

im almost completely colourblind but i still enjoy polychromatic games

i doubt all gaming will have mandatory 3d, and even if some does, whatever. there is always a game out there for you

I have this :(

Think it's called a prismatic deviation.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

as many as 12% of Brits (amounting to roughly six million people)

At least get that part right.

Rev3nger

Yes, VR uses a headmount consisting of two displays, one in front of each eye, each displaying an image from a slightly different perspective. IE Stereoscopy.

ThePlothole

I dont know if the 3DS will work for me because im half blind :( I know the regular glasses 3D doesnt, wasting money on avatar 3D IMAX proved this to me LOLSp4rtan_3

Do stereograms work for you?

[QUOTE="Rev3nger"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

as many as 12% of Brits (amounting to roughly six million people)

At least get that part right.

subrosian

That isn't a 3DTV though, and that's my point. Plus, VR is going to probably going to move well beyond stereoscopic displays very quickly, considering it will need the inclusion of other senses as well, not just sight (read an article about how one military program was using smells during VR training, and it greatly effecting the performance of the trainees).

For the general public, 3D has been and always will remain a gimmick. Beyond true VR, it serves no real purpose and adds nothing to the experience that greatly effects immersion (unless we are using advanced stereoscopic headsets that block out all other sources of sense experience).

foxhound_fox

But it is nonetheless the same principle of 3D. And to be honest I do not believe headmounts and that particular conception of VR will ever catch on. As is people find the glasses needed with current 3DTVs awkward enough.

BTW I have experienced 3D and I must disagree with you. It can add a lot to the immersion.

But it is nonetheless the same principle of 3D. And to be honest I do not believe headmounts and that particular conception of VR will ever catch on. As is people find the glasses needed with current 3DTVs awkward enough.

BTW I have experienced 3D and I must disagree with you. It can add a lot to the immersion.

ThePlothole

Yehhh I can't see 3D. I made a thread about it before and a surprising amount of people also couldn't see.

1. 3D isn't something that's thrust in your face. You'll need to consciously buy a 3D TV for the home consoles, and the 3DS has a lever to vary the amount of 3D shown. It's still the same games.

2. There are 88% that CAN see 3D. Why should it be ignored due to a definitive minority?

What you're all forgeting is that a small percentage of people don't have hands.

I don't see there being any issue with game developers releasing controllers anyway.

Just because some people can't partake in the fun doesn't mean you just quit.

A guy without hands can't exactly play a Playstation or especially a Wii.

Yehhh I can't see 3D. I made a thread about it before and a surprising amount of people also couldn't see.

The_Gaming_Baby

My lefteye kinda blurry, I can see the 3D but it's doesn't seem clear as the 2D....

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]I dont know if the 3DS will work for me because im half blind :( I know the regular glasses 3D doesnt, wasting money on avatar 3D IMAX proved this to me LOLskektek

Do stereograms work for you?

His half blind (one eye) to see 3D (have seance of depth) you need 2 fully functional eyes. 3D is like stereo video, 2 diffrent frames for each eye, 3DS is not a exceptio. Same as you can't hear stereo if you have only one functional ear

Best way to check depth sence is placeing to fists in front of eyes one farder one closer, if you don't see/fell diffrentce between fists that means that something wrong with your sterescopy vision

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]I dont know if the 3DS will work for me because im half blind :( I know the regular glasses 3D doesnt, wasting money on avatar 3D IMAX proved this to me LOLShadowriverUB

Do stereograms work for you?

His half blind (one eye) to see 3D (have seance of depth) you need 2 fully functional eyes. 3D is like stereo video, 2 diffrent frames for each eye, 3DS is not a exceptio. Same as you can't hear stereo if you have only one functional ear

Best way to check depth sence is placeing to fists in front of eyes one farder one closer, if you don't see/fell diffrentce between fists that means that something wrong with your sterescopy vision

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]I dont know if the 3DS will work for me because im half blind :( I know the regular glasses 3D doesnt, wasting money on avatar 3D IMAX proved this to me LOLskektek

Do stereograms work for you?*pic*

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

[QUOTE="skektek"]

Do stereograms work for you?

ianuilliam

His half blind (one eye) to see 3D (have seance of depth) you need 2 fully functional eyes. 3D is like stereo video, 2 diffrent frames for each eye, 3DS is not a exceptio. Same as you can't hear stereo if you have only one functional ear

Best way to check depth sence is placeing to fists in front of eyes one farder one closer, if you don't see/fell diffrentce between fists that means that something wrong with your sterescopy vision

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

His half blind (one eye) to see 3D (have seance of depth) you need 2 fully functional eyes. 3D is like stereo video, 2 diffrent frames for each eye, 3DS is not a exceptio. Same as you can't hear stereo if you have only one functional ear

Best way to check depth sence is placeing to fists in front of eyes one farder one closer, if you don't see/fell diffrentce between fists that means that something wrong with your sterescopy vision

Sp4rtan_3

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="ianuilliam"]People with only one good eye still have depth perception and see the real world in 3-d. They just can't see simulated 3d using stereoscopic effects. Your brain uses more than just stereoscopy to determine depth perception. As for Sp4rtan_3, if stereoscopic 3d with glasses doesn't work, neither will the 3DS. I can't see stereoscopic 3d effects, but I can still tell if one object is closer than another in the real world.

ianuilliam

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"] Yeah I have SOME depth perception left but when it comes to stereoscopic 3D it doesnt work for me because the use of my left eye is totally useless. When I wasted money on avatar I didnt see any of the cool effects people were talking about all I saw was a very High res movie (saw it in IMAX aswell)Sp4rtan_3

So wait... do people here actually think colour blind people see the world in monochrome? Seriously? People are that stupid?Jonzey123

Obviously not. But I bet most people think it's only about red and green:P

I lost 95% of the vision in my left eye due to a car accident 4 years ago... I cant see a thing in 3d... I went to see Avatar with my wife and it was pretty bad as I couldnt see any 3d effect + the image was darker. I have some depth perception as the brain uses other things to create it and I havent had any problem driving during the last 4 years, my only worry is that gaming evolves to some kind of only 3d technology that I wont be able to see. I hope that the option for 2D is always there. MotherRussia

I think you don't need to worry :) either glasses or auto-stereo or any kind of stereoscopic technology will always deliver you 2D image in to your working eye. Same as stereo audio, you can always hear one chanell, but with stereo video its better since POVs of both chanells is not much diffrent.

Did anyone mention Magic Eye yet? I've never been able to see that crap.

uh, alot more than just 12% of people are unable to afford 3D....so...

[QUOTE="mrmcygan"]

This could really hurt sales for both

"3-D technology relies on our eyes' ability to work together as a co-ordinated team to achieve an accurate perception of depth.

"However, more than one in ten of us (12%) has a visual impairment that means our brains are unable to correctly process the individual images that are transmitted to it via our left and right eyes."

"This leads to an inconsistency in viewing the three spatial dimensions (height, width and depth) required to enjoy 3-D films in all their glory."

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/07/13/12-of-brits-may-be-unable-to-see-3d/

Wardemon50

you mean If I go to a movie thats Pseudo 3d only I can turn the affects off? or play a game thats 3d only?

hell lets not forget the amoutn of people Peusdo 3d makes ill

[QUOTE="Wardemon50"][QUOTE="mrmcygan"]

This could really hurt sales for both

"3-D technology relies on our eyes' ability to work together as a co-ordinated team to achieve an accurate perception of depth.

"However, more than one in ten of us (12%) has a visual impairment that means our brains are unable to correctly process the individual images that are transmitted to it via our left and right eyes."

"This leads to an inconsistency in viewing the three spatial dimensions (height, width and depth) required to enjoy 3-D films in all their glory."

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/07/13/12-of-brits-may-be-unable-to-see-3d/

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Wardemon50"] You can turn off the 3D effects if need beianuilliam

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Wardemon50"] You can turn off the 3D effects if need beianuilliam

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] you mean If I go to a movie thats 3d only I can turn the affects off? or play a game thats 3d only?WilliamRLBaker

In addition to the ~10-15% of people with conditions that either prevent them from seeing stereoscopic 3d completely or cause them to have adverse effects ranging from blurriness to headaches to nausea, there are an unknown quantity of people that just don't think it looks better. It's not like the 3d stereoscopic effect improves the graphics, in fact it is more likely to worsen them, since applying the effect eats up some of the available processing power.

Then there's the studies coming out saying that prolonged stereoscpic 3d is bad for you. According to some studies EVERYONE is subject to blurriness, headaches, and/or nausea from stereoscopic 3d, it's just that for some people it's pretty immediate, and for some people it would take prolonged exposure (maybe a movie won't do it, but hours on end of gaming or tv in stereoscopic would).

Eventually HD will achieve pretty much total market saturation because old tv's will fail, and there will be no option to buy sd tvs. 3d televisions will never achieve that level of saturation. Even if it does somehow reach a high enough point of saturation to be considered mainstream, due to the nature of what stereoscopic 3d is and isn't, it will never significantly change the gameplay enough to make a game absolutely require it. In the same way that HD games can still be played on SD tvs, they just don't look as good; the same is true for stereoscopic 3d games. They can still be played without the 3d effect, they just won't have the "OMG it's coming out of the screen!" simulated 3d effect.

Yeah so what? Who said life's supposed to be fair?

well i can watch 3d so that dont affect me lol

my eyes are perfect

there already is no option to buy a sd tv at walmart at least,

the only option -and it will always be available-pawnshops ebay or craigslist or other small sales and shops

so ya